Urbock 23° - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Ratings: 412
Reviews: 294
rAvg: 3.58
pDev: 17.88%
Wants: 9
Gots: 24 | FT: 0
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Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  9.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Bierman9 on 12-05-2001

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Photo of Billolick
3.99/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle, without freshness dating. Pours pretty light amber, with light shimering orangy golden highlights, clear. Minor and quickly departing white head, no lacing. Strong nose of malt. Obviously strong and malty brew, moderate sweetness. Peppery, with notes of anise and gin. Bright and flavorful brew, worth a try if you like the style. Don't think I'd find this a pleasant sessioner, but as a late night sipper...quite enjoyable

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.33/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Urbock 23

Appearance: A stunning clear gold with a solid inch of bubbly foam. Carbonation bubbles rise slowly and seemingly drunkenly to the surface.

Smell: Bready, malty, alcoholic, faint smokey aroma

Taste: Smooth and even. A malt sweetness pulls through. Very mild noble hopping and a small hit of alcohol at the end. Using pale malts in vast quantities, and a potent lager yeast strain, this pale double bock fits the bill quite nicely. As it warms, the alcohol comes out a bit more and the sweetness sits there as well.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied, lighter feel, finishes sweet

Overall: A big beer, with mild flavors but the force is strong with this one. Alcohol reigns supreme. Consider my night, capped.

Photo of corby112
4.08/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice golden color with a thin white head that quickly fades, leaving no lacing. Has a sweet alcohol and roasted malty aroma. Strong alcohol flavor with sweet hints of caramel, chocolate, coffee, toffee and slight nut presence. Very pleasant, very quaffable interpretation.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
1.33/5  rDev -62.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Pours a very clear deep golden colour, with a filmy head of white foam. Very filmy in the head, and no retention. Big bubbled carbonation around the edges. The lack of head is disappointing, and I can't say I'm overly enamoured overall.

Very sweet nose, slightly sickly grain character, with a slight hint of booziness. Quite solvent-like and really intense. Very unpleasant. I'm not a fan at all.

Oh god, if anything, it's worse on the palate. Hugely phenolic solvent-like booze on the back, tingling and not quite clearing away the sickly sweet front palate. It's hot, and thick, and boozy without complexity or nuance. It reminds me of cheap Egyptian malt-liquor. Really, really abysmal. I don't want to drink it.

Undrinkable. This smacks of brewing apathy, and comes across as cheap hot piss to get you wasted quickly. The similarities between it and, say, Jordanian 10% rocket fuel are striking. Please let me not finish it.

Photo of wl0307
4.03/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

BB 10/2009, served chilled in a tulip-shaped wine glass. The label says this beer "matures in the cellar for 9 months, till it is fully fermented and turns amber in colour"... a very interesting fact that I've learned today.

A: just slightly translucent dark orange-golden to amber hue, with good clarity and moderate carbonation mixed of large and tiny bubbles, while the white fluffy head settles fast to a thin blanket.
S: clean on the nose, suggesting yellow prunes and honey-ish malts; a swirl gives rise to a faint sweet lemony note, melted crystal-sugar, a metallic touch, a soothing floral aroma as of noble hops, and a sharp/dense fruity touch as of preserved pineapples (very common to a strong ale/lager, though I don't know where it comes from). Very settled and integrated, neither intrusive nor boring; rather nice!
T: a lubricating-, even oily-, textured thick-syrupy (like sugar-cane juice) maltiness upfront is closely ensued by a clean floral-hop palate, and quickly overtaken by an even cleaner hop bitterness with an unconventional spicy "bite". Not particularly bitter in the aftertaste, but here the residual sour-sweet fruity hints of yellow-prunes (apparently from the long-ageing process?) and crystal-sugar manage to linger well, resulting in a thick but never cloying nor alcoholic finish.
M&D: syrupy-rich on the palate but the smooth carbonation remains the refreshing input to keep the balance right, and the alc. (9.6%abv.) really is surprisingly well-hidden! Having tried only a couple of Eisbock/Doppelbock, I must say I find this one a very well-made bock benefiting from a sound body and supreme balance. Not a "wow" kind of beer in my book, but really I can't doubt the integrity of the overall performance at all and can surely kill a few bottles when my budget allows it!

Photo of jdhilt
3.82/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a white, one finger-head that goes quickly leaving no lace. Clear bright amber color. Light carbonation. Medium bodied. Nose is malty. Starts smooth and sweet, the alcohol is right up front, finishes with a little bitterness and an alcohol aftertaste. $3.19 for a 330ml bottle from Liquor Barn Lexington, KY.

Photo of biegaman
3.33/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A lustrous golden body with a very tight hugging crown. The beer looks classy and enticing: it is magnificently clear, outlined in bleach white and its complexion beams with light. An upright pour mustered a whirlwind of bubbles to rapidly spin up the beer like a vortex. These little prints of carbonation continue to drift skyward but now at a much more casual pace. This looks marvelous albeit nothing like it should according to style guideline.

For such a light coloured beer it has a surprisingly rich and heavy aroma. I (perhaps erroneously) figured that since the colour was so light the beer would lack all the toasty sweet malts and rich sticky caramel of a darker version. Sure enough, however, my nasal passage is becoming filled with a lightly floral bouquet of distilled fruits and brandy soaked malts. Perhaps I'll finally learn never to judge a book by its cover?

Or perhaps I won't. Urbock 23º doesn't taste nearly as good as its aroma had me believe it might. The beer is largely void of flavour and borderline distasteful when it isn't. This isn't much like a dopplebock at all. This doesn't have the flavour or characteristic of fermented grains - it has the taste and composure of distilled fruits. It's piercingly sweet and scorching hot. The amount of boldfaced ethanol really imparts a spirit like quality.

There are hints of apple cider, muscat grapes, and candied pears but scarcely any rich maltiness or caramelization. It tastes a little like damp, processed white bread or dry cereal grains but not the honey and caramel lathered toast that makes this a typically delicious style. Schloss Eggenberg doesn't need to tout on the label that this is one of the world's strongest beers, the beer flaunts that fact on its own.

The BJCP (Beer Judge Certification Program) lists Urbock 23º as a notable commercial example of the dopplebock style - I'm not entirely sure why? I know that paler versions can exist but this didn't exactly exhibit all that is great with this rich German style. Eggenberg says this is known in many countries as the "Cognac of beers". While it does taste a little similar it certainly doesn't share one bit of the complexity or elegance.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.29/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

RB

Buckeyeboy brought this back from Austria... I am sure I have had it before, but am surprised to see no rating.... soooo, here it is.

Pours a clear orange... no real lacing... nose is fruity malt extract, not nearly as clean as most doppelbocks.. sweet and very boozy.

Flavor mirrors the aroma... sweet with something that reminds me of apricot.. cloying malt with no balance at all... one dimensional and not even remotely to my doppelbock liking anymore.

Body is surprisingly not that thick, but the carbonation is lighter than it should be leading to a sorta clinging mouthfeel.

Thanks Jeremy, but I remember this one being better.

3.5/3.25/3.25/3.5/3.25

Photo of beerthulhu
3.62/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a medium golden-orange color with a thin compact white head.

S: a sweet malt aroma with noticeable sugar and honey sweetness along with fruit and alcohol.

T: The flavor was sweet, with some honeynut bread for flavor with some fresh fruit, cantelope, mellons. Very sweet grains in the start before finishing with some sour orange peels and a good bittering hop bite.

M: hot and spicy, sweet and syrupy.

D: Okay drinkability, different per style but really sweet and sugary with a dose of alcohol may limit repeats. A decent try but wouldn't bother having seconds on this one.

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.57/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, light to medium orange amber. Slight head and no lacing. Sweet malt and fruit aroma. Honey sweetness, malt and light hops. Sweet malt and light floral and light hop finish. A bit too sweet and not all that well integrated, but still a pleasant bock.

Photo of Derek
3.99/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Golden-yellow, white head, very little retention or lace.

S: It's like candy: bubble gum, cotton candy, light caramel & toffee.

T: Tastes like candy too: light caramel, cotton candy fruity esters, toffee, modest bitterness, warming alcohol. The fruity-sweet flavours are a little surprising in a lager.

M: Moderate body is well-attenuated for its strength, slightly creamy, dry finish, light-to-moderate carbonation.

D: Dangerous for its strength.

Thanks Doug!

Photo of flagmantho
3.78/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from 330mL bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance: medium golden hue with no haze and a strong effervescence. Head poured a finger of frothy white foam but didn't stick around particularly long.

Smell: rich malt with rather a bit of sweetness and a little bit of fruity, boozy character. I like it.

Taste: rich malt with plenty of sweetness, although it's not cloyingly sweet which can happen. There's a hint of dankness and a little bitterness toward the end. Not a bad doppelbock.

Mouthfeel: rich body with a good enough carbonation to yield a satisfying mouthfeel. I like it quite a bit.

Overall: tasty, and drinkable enough for its strength. It doesn't have enough interesting character to be truly outstanding, but it's a well-enough wrought beer.

Photo of Viggo
3.5/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear amber, very light for its strength. White head dissipates very quickly, with not much lacing so far. Smells like malt and alcohol, not very complex. Tastes like alcohol as well, sweet malt is present, its actually quite balanced for such a big beer, maybe so balanced there isn't a whole lot of flavour involved. Mouthfeel is pretty full, no doubt from all the malt, kind of nail polishy flavour as well. Pretty smooth though, I don't think I'd buy this again though. I recognize it was one of the strongest beers in the world back in the day, but nowadays it just doesn't live up.

Photo of Bighuge
2.42/5  rDev -32.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Clear golden color. A bit of skunk on the nose. A bit of an off flavor. Slightly skunky. Tastes a bit like many European beers that I've had in bottles. Has that "European" skunk to me. Not very good. I'm surprised a bit because I really enjoyed their samichlaus bier.

Photo of cjgator3
2.4/5  rDev -33%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

11.2oz bottle

A- Pours a dark golden yellow with orangish hues and a thin fizzy white head.

S- The aroma is very sweet and metallic with a lot of honey and very boozy as well.

T- The taste like the aroma is too sweet for my palate with a lot of sweet honey and not nearly enough bittering hops to balance out the sweetness at all.

M- The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a low amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, this is not a horrible brew, but at the same time it is way to sweet for me to enjoy.

Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.1/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - A pure, clear honey body with a thin white head atop.

S - Sweet honey and syrupy malt sugars wafting around. Warm, sweet alcohol and caramelized sugars in the nose.

T - Burnt toffee and caramel up front. A big batch of sweet malt and faintly bitter alcohol. Warming and sweet through the whole sip with a butterscotch sauce left to mind in the finish.

M - Pretty smooth with the viscosity of the malt syrup dominating here. Warming alcohol and a semi dry finish.

O - A great choice for a snifter worthy warmer.

Photo of wordemupg
3/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330ml bottle poured into tulip 6/6/11

A clear golden liquid with a fair bit of carbonation but not much in the way of head or lace

S some purple candy, honey, a little booze and some candied corn maybe

T caramel and biscuit to go along with what I smell and the booze is even a little stronger in the mouth

M well carbonated and thicker then the color would leave you to believe but the booze burn takes away from it

O nothing stands out and nothing other then the booze takes away from the beer being enjoyable, pretty average

Not the best offering from this brewer(mind you I've only tried Samiclaus) but at 3 bucks a bottle I had little to lose

Photo of scruffwhor
4.26/5  rDev +19%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance- Poured hardly any head. Had the most uncommon I have seen for a dopplebock yet. A more amber like blush wine color with a little straw gold in the mix.

Smell- Very complex with a very sugary smell, hardly any hops r malt noted. A noticeable hint of alcohol as well.

Taste- Delightful brew mixing lots of candi sugars, strawberries, rose petals, very sweet malts.

Photo of bark
3.85/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The colour is yellow, the liquid clear. The very small head is white.

The sweet smell is dominated by almonds and modelling clay. It is warming and quite elegant, I think.

The taste is a bit sweet and clean. Some sweet almonds. Mellow notes of wheat flour and cookies. There are some notes of caramel in the aftertaste as well as a mild sweetness and a clean mild bitterness.

The carbonation is strong, the bubbles large. The liquid is smooth.

An elegant, clean and well crafted doppelbock. Perhaps a bit too clean?

Photo of glid02
3.55/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle purchased from Five Points Bottle in Athens, GA.

Pours a clear golden-amber color with a half-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of light and fairly sweet caramel malts with hints of vinous fruits and moderate amounts of alcohol. As it warms the alcohol influence increases a bit.

Tastes similar to how It smells. Light caramel malt flavors kick things off with hints of breadiness. The flavors turn more toward alcohol midway through the end of the sip with indistinct fruit flavors. The fruit flavors fade quickly allowing the malt and alcohol flavors to carry through to a sweet ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall I agree with others in that this isn't all that close to a doppelbock. It's more of a maibock but the ABV is too high to support that kind of flavor profile.

Photo of bluejacket74
3.47/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle. Served in a mug, the beer pours a clear dark golden color with a half-inch white head that goes away quickly. Not much lacing at all. Aroma is sweet and malty, it smells like caramel and bready malt, toffee, apples and honey. The taste is pretty much the same as the aroma, except that there is some booze noticable, and there's also a slight bitter herbal taste in the finish. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit sticky and creamy with moderate carbonation. The drinkability is decent enough, it's not hard to drink. Overall I think this is a decent brew, but there are other dopplebocks I like more than this one. But it is worth a try.

Photo of Gagnonsux
3.92/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Urbock's color is golden brown with a small, creamy head. Carbonation is pretty good. The aroma has a dark fruity malt smell, more like an eisbock than the dopples I've had. The taste continues with a dark fruit flavor, almost plum-like, with a little alcohol bite. The alcoholic taste is most notable in the finish. This seems more like a slightly weak eisbock than your average dopplebock. The taste is very good, but still doesn't seem as full-flavored as it could be. There are better dopples and eisbocks, and this beer just sits on the line between the two styles.

Photo of Gusler
3.8/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a crystal clear golden yellow; the head modest in size, frothy in texture, off white in color and it dissipates quickly leaving a silky sheet of lace to caress the glass. A touch of yeast lots of malt, fresh and clean is the nose. Big malt start that is also sweet, the top middling in its feel to the palate, finish is delectable in the hop arena, the carbonation purposeful, the aftertaste droughty, and a fine beer to be sure and well worth a sample.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.85/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Look much different than I expected, like a golden ale or something. Head is set at 1/4 of an inch with some pretty stellar lacing and tons of bubbles rising. Still can't get over how clear this Doppelbock is.

S - Smell is very sweet and has almost a kind of white grape tint to it. Also smells very sweet with quite of bit of caramel and sugar goodness.

T - Sweet malts play pretty well with the alchohol that almost taste of cotton candy. I am surprised that there is no alchohol taste (maybe a bit in the finish) or burn. Almost like sugar coated grape candies if that makes sense.

M - A touch heavy and it does warm the belly.

Overall a very strange take on the style with an excess of sweetness that I enjoy but not very much of a rum raisin bread that I would expect. Still it wasn't bad.

Photo of avalon07
3.8/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle to a flute glass. Had a surprisingly thin texture, with a dark, yellowish color. Miniscule head and very little lacing.

There was a sweetness, along with some malt in the smell.

The taste was interesting. It had the aforementioned malt, but also a tinge of apples. It was odd. Not bad, somewhat sweet, though.

The mouthfeel was okay. It had an above average amount of carbonation, but did possess a good, smooth finish.

This is a decently drinkable beer. Not exactly what I was expecting, but good nonetheless. Fairly complex, but not as much as other beers.

Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
81 out of 100 based on 412 ratings.