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Urbock 23° - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

Urbock 23°Urbock 23°

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BA SCORE
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366 Ratings
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Ratings: 366
Reviews: 285
rAvg: 3.57
pDev: 18.21%


Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  9.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 12-05-2001)
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corby112

Pennsylvania

4.13/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice golden color with a thin white head that quickly fades, leaving no lacing. Has a sweet alcohol and roasted malty aroma. Strong alcohol flavor with sweet hints of caramel, chocolate, coffee, toffee and slight nut presence. Very pleasant, very quaffable interpretation.

Serving type: bottle

12-02-2008 06:16:18 | More by corby112
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wl0307

United Kingdom (England)

4.05/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

BB 10/2009, served chilled in a tulip-shaped wine glass. The label says this beer "matures in the cellar for 9 months, till it is fully fermented and turns amber in colour"... a very interesting fact that I've learned today.

A: just slightly translucent dark orange-golden to amber hue, with good clarity and moderate carbonation mixed of large and tiny bubbles, while the white fluffy head settles fast to a thin blanket.
S: clean on the nose, suggesting yellow prunes and honey-ish malts; a swirl gives rise to a faint sweet lemony note, melted crystal-sugar, a metallic touch, a soothing floral aroma as of noble hops, and a sharp/dense fruity touch as of preserved pineapples (very common to a strong ale/lager, though I don't know where it comes from). Very settled and integrated, neither intrusive nor boring; rather nice!
T: a lubricating-, even oily-, textured thick-syrupy (like sugar-cane juice) maltiness upfront is closely ensued by a clean floral-hop palate, and quickly overtaken by an even cleaner hop bitterness with an unconventional spicy "bite". Not particularly bitter in the aftertaste, but here the residual sour-sweet fruity hints of yellow-prunes (apparently from the long-ageing process?) and crystal-sugar manage to linger well, resulting in a thick but never cloying nor alcoholic finish.
M&D: syrupy-rich on the palate but the smooth carbonation remains the refreshing input to keep the balance right, and the alc. (9.6%abv.) really is surprisingly well-hidden! Having tried only a couple of Eisbock/Doppelbock, I must say I find this one a very well-made bock benefiting from a sound body and supreme balance. Not a "wow" kind of beer in my book, but really I can't doubt the integrity of the overall performance at all and can surely kill a few bottles when my budget allows it!

Serving type: bottle

02-05-2009 21:12:12 | More by wl0307
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biegaman

Ontario (Canada)

3.28/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A lustrous golden body with a very tight hugging crown. The beer looks classy and enticing: it is magnificently clear, outlined in bleach white and its complexion beams with light. An upright pour mustered a whirlwind of bubbles to rapidly spin up the beer like a vortex. These little prints of carbonation continue to drift skyward but now at a much more casual pace. This looks marvelous albeit nothing like it should according to style guideline.

For such a light coloured beer it has a surprisingly rich and heavy aroma. I (perhaps erroneously) figured that since the colour was so light the beer would lack all the toasty sweet malts and rich sticky caramel of a darker version. Sure enough, however, my nasal passage is becoming filled with a lightly floral bouquet of distilled fruits and brandy soaked malts. Perhaps I'll finally learn never to judge a book by its cover?

Or perhaps I won't. Urbock 23º doesn't taste nearly as good as its aroma had me believe it might. The beer is largely void of flavour and borderline distasteful when it isn't. This isn't much like a dopplebock at all. This doesn't have the flavour or characteristic of fermented grains - it has the taste and composure of distilled fruits. It's piercingly sweet and scorching hot. The amount of boldfaced ethanol really imparts a spirit like quality.

There are hints of apple cider, muscat grapes, and candied pears but scarcely any rich maltiness or caramelization. It tastes a little like damp, processed white bread or dry cereal grains but not the honey and caramel lathered toast that makes this a typically delicious style. Schloss Eggenberg doesn't need to tout on the label that this is one of the world's strongest beers, the beer flaunts that fact on its own.

The BJCP (Beer Judge Certification Program) lists Urbock 23º as a notable commercial example of the dopplebock style - I'm not entirely sure why? I know that paler versions can exist but this didn't exactly exhibit all that is great with this rich German style. Eggenberg says this is known in many countries as the "Cognac of beers". While it does taste a little similar it certainly doesn't share one bit of the complexity or elegance.

Serving type: bottle

02-08-2009 20:48:48 | More by biegaman
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Viggo

Ontario (Canada)

3.5/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear amber, very light for its strength. White head dissipates very quickly, with not much lacing so far. Smells like malt and alcohol, not very complex. Tastes like alcohol as well, sweet malt is present, its actually quite balanced for such a big beer, maybe so balanced there isn't a whole lot of flavour involved. Mouthfeel is pretty full, no doubt from all the malt, kind of nail polishy flavour as well. Pretty smooth though, I don't think I'd buy this again though. I recognize it was one of the strongest beers in the world back in the day, but nowadays it just doesn't live up.

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2005 04:24:31 | More by Viggo
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beerthulhu

New Jersey

3.6/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a medium golden-orange color with a thin compact white head.

S: a sweet malt aroma with noticeable sugar and honey sweetness along with fruit and alcohol.

T: The flavor was sweet, with some honeynut bread for flavor with some fresh fruit, cantelope, mellons. Very sweet grains in the start before finishing with some sour orange peels and a good bittering hop bite.

M: hot and spicy, sweet and syrupy.

D: Okay drinkability, different per style but really sweet and sugary with a dose of alcohol may limit repeats. A decent try but wouldn't bother having seconds on this one.

Serving type: bottle

12-06-2008 12:53:24 | More by beerthulhu
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Bighuge

Minnesota

2.38/5  rDev -33.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Clear golden color. A bit of skunk on the nose. A bit of an off flavor. Slightly skunky. Tastes a bit like many European beers that I've had in bottles. Has that "European" skunk to me. Not very good. I'm surprised a bit because I really enjoyed their samichlaus bier.

Serving type: bottle

03-19-2002 13:58:11 | More by Bighuge
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Stinkypuss

Pennsylvania

3.3/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Urbock 23

Appearance: A stunning clear gold with a solid inch of bubbly foam. Carbonation bubbles rise slowly and seemingly drunkenly to the surface.

Smell: Bready, malty, alcoholic, faint smokey aroma

Taste: Smooth and even. A malt sweetness pulls through. Very mild noble hopping and a small hit of alcohol at the end. Using pale malts in vast quantities, and a potent lager yeast strain, this pale double bock fits the bill quite nicely. As it warms, the alcohol comes out a bit more and the sweetness sits there as well.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied, lighter feel, finishes sweet

Overall: A big beer, with mild flavors but the force is strong with this one. Alcohol reigns supreme. Consider my night, capped.

Serving type: bottle

08-01-2011 07:30:59 | More by Stinkypuss
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glid02

Georgia

3.55/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle purchased from Five Points Bottle in Athens, GA.

Pours a clear golden-amber color with a half-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of light and fairly sweet caramel malts with hints of vinous fruits and moderate amounts of alcohol. As it warms the alcohol influence increases a bit.

Tastes similar to how It smells. Light caramel malt flavors kick things off with hints of breadiness. The flavors turn more toward alcohol midway through the end of the sip with indistinct fruit flavors. The fruit flavors fade quickly allowing the malt and alcohol flavors to carry through to a sweet ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall I agree with others in that this isn't all that close to a doppelbock. It's more of a maibock but the ABV is too high to support that kind of flavor profile.

Serving type: bottle

08-31-2010 01:14:30 | More by glid02
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Huhzubendah

District of Columbia

3.35/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2006 (or earlier) vintage shared with drabmuh at my house recently. Review from notes.

This beer appears a clear, light yellow color, with very little head and no lace. Is this what a doppelbock is supposed to look like? The lack of head and lacing can be attributed to the vintage, but the color seems quite light.

Aromas consist of alcohol and sweet malt.

This brew tastes fairly decent, though there is still too much of an alcohol presence. The beer is surprisingly thin, with some mild heat in the finish. Urbock 23° has a slightly odd or off kilter flavor. Overall, it's pretty drinkable, but also a tad unusual. I found this to be a pretty mediocre beer.

Serving type: bottle

08-02-2010 04:04:59 | More by Huhzubendah
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Gusler

Arizona

3.83/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a crystal clear golden yellow; the head modest in size, frothy in texture, off white in color and it dissipates quickly leaving a silky sheet of lace to caress the glass. A touch of yeast lots of malt, fresh and clean is the nose. Big malt start that is also sweet, the top middling in its feel to the palate, finish is delectable in the hop arena, the carbonation purposeful, the aftertaste droughty, and a fine beer to be sure and well worth a sample.

Serving type: bottle

02-14-2003 14:15:54 | More by Gusler
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superspak

Michigan

3.68/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours lightly cloudy golden amber color with a good 1-2 finger fairly dense white head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Some small bits of spotty lacing cling to the glass. Aromas of caramel, biscuit, apple, raisin, grape, nuttiness, honey, toffee, herbal, and earth. Pleasant and well balanced aromas with good strength and complexity. Taste of caramel, toast, biscuit, raisin, apple, honey, bready grain, nuttiness, herbal spiciness, earth, and light phenolic flavors. Lingering notes of light fruits, toast, biscuit, caramel, toffee, nuttiness, earth, herbal, and phenolic fruitiness. Some good balance of flavors but the phenolic character throws it off a bit; definitely smoother tasting with tiny sips. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a lightly creamy and slightly slick mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is well hidden with only a warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a good pale doppelbock. It has good complexity and flavor balance, despite the estery qualities that were present. An enjoyable sipper.

Serving type: bottle

08-10-2012 03:54:20 | More by superspak
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Derek

British Columbia (Canada)

4/5  rDev +12%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Golden-yellow, white head, very little retention or lace.

S: It's like candy: bubble gum, cotton candy, light caramel & toffee.

T: Tastes like candy too: light caramel, cotton candy fruity esters, toffee, modest bitterness, warming alcohol. The fruity-sweet flavours are a little surprising in a lager.

M: Moderate body is well-attenuated for its strength, slightly creamy, dry finish, light-to-moderate carbonation.

D: Dangerous for its strength.

Thanks Doug!

Serving type: bottle

07-02-2007 00:59:29 | More by Derek
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wordemupg

Alberta (Canada)

3/5  rDev -16%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330ml bottle poured into tulip 6/6/11

A clear golden liquid with a fair bit of carbonation but not much in the way of head or lace

S some purple candy, honey, a little booze and some candied corn maybe

T caramel and biscuit to go along with what I smell and the booze is even a little stronger in the mouth

M well carbonated and thicker then the color would leave you to believe but the booze burn takes away from it

O nothing stands out and nothing other then the booze takes away from the beer being enjoyable, pretty average

Not the best offering from this brewer(mind you I've only tried Samiclaus) but at 3 bucks a bottle I had little to lose

Serving type: bottle

06-07-2011 01:16:12 | More by wordemupg
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avalon07

South Carolina

3.83/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle to a flute glass. Had a surprisingly thin texture, with a dark, yellowish color. Miniscule head and very little lacing.

There was a sweetness, along with some malt in the smell.

The taste was interesting. It had the aforementioned malt, but also a tinge of apples. It was odd. Not bad, somewhat sweet, though.

The mouthfeel was okay. It had an above average amount of carbonation, but did possess a good, smooth finish.

This is a decently drinkable beer. Not exactly what I was expecting, but good nonetheless. Fairly complex, but not as much as other beers.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2008 14:13:14 | More by avalon07
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RoyalT

Ohio

3.98/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance – The body was a very thin and clear orange but the head was gorgeous, heaving and pitting.

Smell – There is a really big heavy duty Abbey Tripel-type of aroma to this bier. It is filled with orange and tangerine juice, along with non-toasted malt, some biscuit, and a serious does of alcohol.

Taste – The circus has come to town. It looks like a cheap pale ale and smells like a novelty beer, but the taste is monstrous. There’s a hint of bock to this one, but mostly it is big orange biscuit flavor. I don’t understand the classification to this style.

Mouthfeel – Very light carbonation and medium in the body, this heavy hitter means business. There is a sharp alcohol sting at the mouth yet this bier is refreshingly smooth.

Drinkability – This went down like Courtney Love at a rock concert. I can’t say that it even remotely resembled the Doppelbock style, but it was awesome nevertheless. I will rate it on its merits.

Serving type: bottle

11-15-2003 03:05:23 | More by RoyalT
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DrDemento456

Pennsylvania

3.88/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Look much different than I expected, like a golden ale or something. Head is set at 1/4 of an inch with some pretty stellar lacing and tons of bubbles rising. Still can't get over how clear this Doppelbock is.

S - Smell is very sweet and has almost a kind of white grape tint to it. Also smells very sweet with quite of bit of caramel and sugar goodness.

T - Sweet malts play pretty well with the alchohol that almost taste of cotton candy. I am surprised that there is no alchohol taste (maybe a bit in the finish) or burn. Almost like sugar coated grape candies if that makes sense.

M - A touch heavy and it does warm the belly.

Overall a very strange take on the style with an excess of sweetness that I enjoy but not very much of a rum raisin bread that I would expect. Still it wasn't bad.

Serving type: bottle

09-19-2011 03:43:54 | More by DrDemento456
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bluejacket74

Ohio

3.48/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle. Served in a mug, the beer pours a clear dark golden color with a half-inch white head that goes away quickly. Not much lacing at all. Aroma is sweet and malty, it smells like caramel and bready malt, toffee, apples and honey. The taste is pretty much the same as the aroma, except that there is some booze noticable, and there's also a slight bitter herbal taste in the finish. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit sticky and creamy with moderate carbonation. The drinkability is decent enough, it's not hard to drink. Overall I think this is a decent brew, but there are other dopplebocks I like more than this one. But it is worth a try.

Serving type: bottle

11-14-2009 21:58:01 | More by bluejacket74
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ZAP

Minnesota

4.25/5  rDev +19%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear, clean, dark gold with little head...sweet malt/vanilla tones on the nose...9% alcohol? You'd never guess it...sweet and slick with little hopping...a bit sweet for some but a good blond doppel in my book..a nice flowery hop profile would do wonders for this beer..could use some additional hopping but still very good as is..

Serving type: bottle

03-18-2002 01:28:20 | More by ZAP
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DefenCorps

Oregon

3.73/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review # 1349 \m/

Last time I had this beer I HATED it. But for 75cents in a discount bin, I couldn't pass on it.

Clear orange with a thin, off-white head with rather poor retention, there's plenty of carbonation present, making this look like a cider in some ways. That this beer is fresh is given away by the nose. Noticeably hoppy with plenty of noble hop aroma, grassy, mildly lemony and a little grassy. The sweetness is hidden behind the hop character, there's honey, sugar and some cotton candy.

The palate opens with a blend of hops and alcohol. Floral honey, cotton candy, light lemon and earthiness are all present. Staggeringly drier than I remember it being, the sweetness actually isn't all that high! The combination of hops and alcohol is unique, and the malt character is moderate, and in its simplicity, like a drier maibock. The yeast isn't particularly expressive, I don't get much yeast flavor here. Despite the relatively high FG (1.020), this is still fairly dry. Moderately brash, this still works. Medium in body with carbonation that's a little higher than it needs to be, this beer is dry and hoppy on the finish with some cotton candy. A failure as a doppelbock, this is still quite an excellent beverage.

Serving type: bottle

01-17-2011 02:19:39 | More by DefenCorps
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scruffwhor

Illinois

4.28/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance- Poured hardly any head. Had the most uncommon I have seen for a dopplebock yet. A more amber like blush wine color with a little straw gold in the mix.

Smell- Very complex with a very sugary smell, hardly any hops r malt noted. A noticeable hint of alcohol as well.

Taste- Delightful brew mixing lots of candi sugars, strawberries, rose petals, very sweet malts.

Serving type: bottle

01-16-2006 00:43:27 | More by scruffwhor
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bark

Sweden

3.88/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The colour is yellow, the liquid clear. The very small head is white.

The sweet smell is dominated by almonds and modelling clay. It is warming and quite elegant, I think.

The taste is a bit sweet and clean. Some sweet almonds. Mellow notes of wheat flour and cookies. There are some notes of caramel in the aftertaste as well as a mild sweetness and a clean mild bitterness.

The carbonation is strong, the bubbles large. The liquid is smooth.

An elegant, clean and well crafted doppelbock. Perhaps a bit too clean?

Serving type: bottle

09-02-2010 08:06:07 | More by bark
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LiquidAmber

Washington

3.55/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, light to medium orange amber. Slight head and no lacing. Sweet malt and fruit aroma. Honey sweetness, malt and light hops. Sweet malt and light floral and light hop finish. A bit too sweet and not all that well integrated, but still a pleasant bock.

Serving type: bottle

04-03-2012 03:17:11 | More by LiquidAmber
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TheLongBeachBum

California

3.98/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: A rather fancy looking 11,2 fl.oz. bottle. Tall brown glass bottle with the words ‘Schloß Eggenberg’. A regal looking black and gold stretched oval label has the date 1681 and the words ‘Scloss Eggenberg Urbock 23’ on it. Listed at 9,6% Alc.Vol. A thick paper collar terminates flush with the top of the black and gold crown cap.

Appearance: Perfectly lucid glowing gold body. White head that settles to a halo collar with a broken surface. Lively conditioning, such that a swirl will help replace a fading head whilst emitting a rather loud audible fizz whilst doing so.

Nose: Very strong sweet alcoholic aromas, sweet malts and a rather pungent deadly kick that politely reminds you that this one will not go down without a fight.

Taste: More sweet Malts in the beginning, some barley-sugar tastes in the middle with yet more malts returning in the latter third, whilst the finish develops a hop bitter twist to balance those sweet malts. The sweetness is syrupy smooth, almost honey like as the beer finishes; this can tend to give a sticky feel after the beer has been consumed. I noticed that beer tends to ‘build-up’ as you drink it; it is as though it develops a complexity as imbibed.

Mouthfeel: Ever so slightly sticky feel in the mouth after the swallow, whilst in the mouth its feels lighter than you expect for the strength.

Drinkability: Just the one bottle is fine, and more than enough, definitely a night cap brew. Zzzz.

Overall: Enjoyable, I like a big-ass beer once in a while. A really good every “now and again” beer.

Serving type: bottle

03-06-2004 06:58:15 | More by TheLongBeachBum
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cokes

Wisconsin

4.5/5  rDev +26.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Wow.. this is the trippiest beer I have ever had. A through-the-looking-glass, alternate dimension doppelbock.

Golden, pilsener-like body. Decent bubbly white head.
Somewhat (noble?) hoppy nose, with evident maltiness and some alcohol.

Storms into the mouth with carmel apple maltiness. Switches to solely apple, then to grape. Hops enter at this point to dry out the juiciness. Alcohol is next, which ads some pepper and fire. Finishes wine-like with lingering honey.

Very tasty, very complex and very unique.
Syrup-like in the mouth, but not oppressively heavy. Actually, pretty solid.
Quite a treat.
I am surprised this has been hosed by many other reviews. It has me grinning like Cheshire Cat.

Serving type: bottle

06-10-2002 21:36:35 | More by cokes
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blackie

Virginia

4/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: served in what is basically a miniature wine glass, the beer is a light honey-golden in color with a big white head, light retention after the recession

s: sweet pale malt sugars dominate and carry an aroma of baked green apple with a heavy honey sauce, instantly reminiscent of a mead in its honeyed booziness, hops pulpy and herbal/grassy with just a touch of dried lemon peel

m: not quite syrupy, but close, carbonation around medium in level

t: similar in makeup to the aroma, big on the sweet pale grain and honeyed apple flavors, white figs, hops papery and impart a moderate bitterness with some light citrus, appropriately boozy, certainly not to style but I really enjoyed the flavor

d: limited, but a nice sipper

overall: fuck the style constraints, this is much better than a "B" beer in my book, need to pick up a bottle, very nice and quite unique

glass at The Saloon in DC

Serving type: on-tap

09-28-2008 05:58:12 | More by blackie
Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
81 out of 100 based on 366 ratings.