Urbock 23° - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Reviews: 293
Hads: 413
rAvg: 3.58
pDev: 17.04%
Wants: 9
Gots: 24 | FT: 0
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Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  9.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Bierman9 on 12-05-2001

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Photo of DefenCorps
3.74/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review # 1349 \m/

Last time I had this beer I HATED it. But for 75cents in a discount bin, I couldn't pass on it.

Clear orange with a thin, off-white head with rather poor retention, there's plenty of carbonation present, making this look like a cider in some ways. That this beer is fresh is given away by the nose. Noticeably hoppy with plenty of noble hop aroma, grassy, mildly lemony and a little grassy. The sweetness is hidden behind the hop character, there's honey, sugar and some cotton candy.

The palate opens with a blend of hops and alcohol. Floral honey, cotton candy, light lemon and earthiness are all present. Staggeringly drier than I remember it being, the sweetness actually isn't all that high! The combination of hops and alcohol is unique, and the malt character is moderate, and in its simplicity, like a drier maibock. The yeast isn't particularly expressive, I don't get much yeast flavor here. Despite the relatively high FG (1.020), this is still fairly dry. Moderately brash, this still works. Medium in body with carbonation that's a little higher than it needs to be, this beer is dry and hoppy on the finish with some cotton candy. A failure as a doppelbock, this is still quite an excellent beverage. (1,237 characters)

Photo of clayrock81
3.7/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light golden body with good head and a strong aroma that has some booziness to it, as well as dark fruits(?) and some sweetness. For a dopplebock it doesn't seem as heavy or boozy as others (which is both good and bad). The lighter body is crisp with some hoppiness and a slight sticky sweetness. Can't pinpoint sweetness, but it's something like caramel and for some reason I pick something like raisins or figs. Finishes slightly dry w/ the alcohol finally making itself known. A quality sipper, won't be confused w/ the more maltier dopplebocks when it comes to a heavy malt presence but still a good tasting brew worth trying. (638 characters)

Photo of stcules
3.51/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Copper-old gold. Clean, with a bit of foam.
Malty smell, alcoholic notes, fruit in acohol. Maybe some hazelnut.
Again boozy in the mouth, along with light notes of almond and walnut.
Full bodied and important beer.
Again walnut and almod in the aftertaste, with warming alcohol.
Beer to sip. (291 characters)

Photo of ZAP
4.23/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear, clean, dark gold with little head...sweet malt/vanilla tones on the nose...9% alcohol? You'd never guess it...sweet and slick with little hopping...a bit sweet for some but a good blond doppel in my book..a nice flowery hop profile would do wonders for this beer..could use some additional hopping but still very good as is.. (333 characters)

Photo of RBorsato
4.22/5  rDev +17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Solid gold with a low-decent off-white head and constant low-moderate carbonation with slow bubbles; light in color for the style. Strong all malt aroma and flavor with moderate sweetness, some spiciness, and light alcohol notes. Full bodied with a rich robust mouthfeel and flavor.

Per label: "1681" & "Originalabfullung Schloss Eggenberg" & "Das Bier Zum Salzkammergut Ale"

(11.2 oz. / .33L yellowish-brown bottle embossed with "Schloss Eggenberg" twice around the neck. (478 characters)

Photo of RoyalT
3.95/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance – The body was a very thin and clear orange but the head was gorgeous, heaving and pitting.

Smell – There is a really big heavy duty Abbey Tripel-type of aroma to this bier. It is filled with orange and tangerine juice, along with non-toasted malt, some biscuit, and a serious does of alcohol.

Taste – The circus has come to town. It looks like a cheap pale ale and smells like a novelty beer, but the taste is monstrous. There’s a hint of bock to this one, but mostly it is big orange biscuit flavor. I don’t understand the classification to this style.

Mouthfeel – Very light carbonation and medium in the body, this heavy hitter means business. There is a sharp alcohol sting at the mouth yet this bier is refreshingly smooth.

Drinkability – This went down like Courtney Love at a rock concert. I can’t say that it even remotely resembled the Doppelbock style, but it was awesome nevertheless. I will rate it on its merits. (957 characters)

Photo of laituegonflable
2.13/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Pours a brandy orange-red colour, quite syrupy-looking in the glass. Head needed to be encouraged, and sinks quickly, just a ring around the top. Lacing is pretty decent and sticky. I'm always a bit forgiving of bock-styles for lack of head, is otherwise alright.

Nose is very strong and pongy, with a huge amount of malt, slightly smokey with a strong brandy sourness and a fair whiff of brass. Distinct alcohol, fruit and brown sugar on there. Interesting sweet/sour aroma, can't say I'm a huge fan, but it's unique.

Taste is more of the same at first. Large sweetness on the front with burnt toffee, brown sugar, brandy, some woody notes and hint of marzipan coming through on the mid, then a really strong phenolic solvent character on the finish, with distinct alcohol warmth, nothing overly hot but no real flavour there to hide the booze. A very dour bitterness comprises the finish, really just tastes more like methyl alcohol than anything else. Not unlike cough medicine.

Feel is very syrupy and flat - the resemblance to cough medicine goes beyond the taste. Dreadful, really.

It's amusing that this calls itself the cognac of beers, when it doesn't have nearly the power, complexity or pleasant flavour of a good brandy. All it has is a distinct alcohol finish. Not a pleasant drop, I really have very, very little respect for the Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg, they are all talk and no substance. This is an insult to other doppelbocks. (1,450 characters)

Photo of Pencible
4.12/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This poured a bright, clear gold with a bit of off-white head. It smelled like honey wheat, molasses, and sour apple, with a bit of wild yeast and lemon grass. It tasted like honey wheat and rich barley, with a bit of lemon hops and yeast. It was watery with some carbonation, and had a bittersweet aftertaste. Overall this initially seemed very similar to the Eggengerg Dunkel, but the more I deconstructed it, the more differences I found. This was much lighter, especially for a doppelbock. But it was still quite tasty, very clean, and super easy to drink. It had decent body, and hid the alcohol very well. I probably prefer the darkness and complexity of the Dunkel, but this was still a great beer. (705 characters)

Photo of jmdrpi
3.74/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- clear pale copper color, almost no head even with an aggressive pour

S - sweet malt, orange rind, a little spice

T - sugary sweet start, tart middle, alcohol finish

M - medium body, little carbonation

D - although the higher abv is detectable, it is still fairly easy to drink (283 characters)

Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.97/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: A rather fancy looking 11,2 fl.oz. bottle. Tall brown glass bottle with the words ‘Schloß Eggenberg’. A regal looking black and gold stretched oval label has the date 1681 and the words ‘Scloss Eggenberg Urbock 23’ on it. Listed at 9,6% Alc.Vol. A thick paper collar terminates flush with the top of the black and gold crown cap.

Appearance: Perfectly lucid glowing gold body. White head that settles to a halo collar with a broken surface. Lively conditioning, such that a swirl will help replace a fading head whilst emitting a rather loud audible fizz whilst doing so.

Nose: Very strong sweet alcoholic aromas, sweet malts and a rather pungent deadly kick that politely reminds you that this one will not go down without a fight.

Taste: More sweet Malts in the beginning, some barley-sugar tastes in the middle with yet more malts returning in the latter third, whilst the finish develops a hop bitter twist to balance those sweet malts. The sweetness is syrupy smooth, almost honey like as the beer finishes; this can tend to give a sticky feel after the beer has been consumed. I noticed that beer tends to ‘build-up’ as you drink it; it is as though it develops a complexity as imbibed.

Mouthfeel: Ever so slightly sticky feel in the mouth after the swallow, whilst in the mouth its feels lighter than you expect for the strength.

Drinkability: Just the one bottle is fine, and more than enough, definitely a night cap brew. Zzzz.

Overall: Enjoyable, I like a big-ass beer once in a while. A really good every “now and again” beer. (1,578 characters)

Photo of cokes
4.46/5  rDev +24.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Wow.. this is the trippiest beer I have ever had. A through-the-looking-glass, alternate dimension doppelbock.

Golden, pilsener-like body. Decent bubbly white head.
Somewhat (noble?) hoppy nose, with evident maltiness and some alcohol.

Storms into the mouth with carmel apple maltiness. Switches to solely apple, then to grape. Hops enter at this point to dry out the juiciness. Alcohol is next, which ads some pepper and fire. Finishes wine-like with lingering honey.

Very tasty, very complex and very unique.
Syrup-like in the mouth, but not oppressively heavy. Actually, pretty solid.
Quite a treat.
I am surprised this has been hosed by many other reviews. It has me grinning like Cheshire Cat. (726 characters)

Photo of pat61
4.19/5  rDev +17%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Brilliant gold with a thin white film for a head.
S: Wine and bread aromas
T: Big malt and alcohol flavors, light brown sugar, light caramel, a light hop accent on the finish.
F: Creamy, full bodied, medium carbonation, very warming.
O: An iconic big light colored beer. A touch hot but still very nice. (310 characters)

Photo of blackie
4/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: served in what is basically a miniature wine glass, the beer is a light honey-golden in color with a big white head, light retention after the recession

s: sweet pale malt sugars dominate and carry an aroma of baked green apple with a heavy honey sauce, instantly reminiscent of a mead in its honeyed booziness, hops pulpy and herbal/grassy with just a touch of dried lemon peel

m: not quite syrupy, but close, carbonation around medium in level

t: similar in makeup to the aroma, big on the sweet pale grain and honeyed apple flavors, white figs, hops papery and impart a moderate bitterness with some light citrus, appropriately boozy, certainly not to style but I really enjoyed the flavor

d: limited, but a nice sipper

overall: fuck the style constraints, this is much better than a "B" beer in my book, need to pick up a bottle, very nice and quite unique

glass at The Saloon in DC (895 characters)

Photo of Suds
2.93/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Light amber colored beer (it actually looks something like a piece of clear amber jewelry). Intense carbonation, but a relatively thin, large-bubbled head. An almost monstrous alcohol aroma pushes other smells aside. Malty, with a very mild hopiness. Peppery, spicy smell and taste. The beer is intensely sweet, and has a harsh alcohol finish. Full bodied, sometimes creamy mouthfeel. The more that I drank of this beer, the more it became one-dimensional....sticky sweetness and intense alcohol. Not particularly drinkable. (524 characters)

Photo of ADZA
3.2/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Well on this bottle they call this the cognac of beers i think ill be the judge of that,it pours a see thru pale amber colour with little carbonation that leaves a fast vanishing head with no lacing just a little ring around the edge,it has a funky apple malty smell to it not too sure what to make of that aroma,it has a thin mouthfeel and tastes kinda like sweet apples infused with alcohol but not a dominant alcohol taste just enough to give you that little bit of warmth that a white port does at the finish so i can maybe see where they are trying to get as saying its the cognac of beers but it still just doesnt get me that excited really,because of the sweetness of this beer drinkability for me isnt the highest but i could see myself drinking this beer as an after desert beer but thats it for me. (808 characters)

Photo of Bierman9
4.05/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The 23 pours a golden color, quite light for a "doppelbock". More akin to a Maibock, imho. Head was not overly thick, less than 1/2" to start, and recedes to a light ring around the glass, with minimal lacing. Aroma seemed to highlight the alcohol. Reminded me somewhat of the kick you pick up from Belzebuth. There's some maltiness there, and spiciness too, but they struggle to reach your nostrils. Bodywise, it tended towards a medium feel, and it was relatively smooth save for a short patch of prickliness on the tongue at the outset. Malty flavors are present, yet the alcohol and the warmth it brings overshadow it. Some aspects of the 23 also remind me of a strong, Belgian pale, with a peppery-like quality to it, yet more like Belzebuth again. The taste lingers a bit on the tongue and down the throat. Part of me wants to like this more than I probably should! I don't know; it's a different beast. Go figure! Prosit!!

overall: 4
appearance: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | mouthfeel: 4 | drinkability: 4

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Photo of Brent
2.63/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Poured a amber/bronze, much lighter in color than I expected for a doppelbock. Flavor is dominated by a bittersweet, syrupy malt that coats the tongue. Alcohol is quite evident in the flavor profile, adding a pepper that tries to cut through the blanket of sweetness, but fails to make a substantial dent. Heavy and unwieldy. (325 characters)

Photo of FLima
3.69/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Light copper color with a practically no head.
Nice malty aroma with notes of dark fruits, caramels and a bit of wood.
Sweet slightly toasted malt flavor with notes of caramel, nuts, a bit of cognac, apple puree, light herbal, red wine, chocolate and plums. Mildly dry aftertaste.
Light closer to medium body with low carbonation. Alcohol of 9.6% abv is superbly well hidden, impressive.
I usually don’t like very sweet malty beers, but this is actually a pleasant sipper. Last time I had it was almost 2 years ago, this was felt much better, and probably was not the beer that changed... (590 characters)

Photo of merlin48
4.32/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle pours a clear, medium gold that has an ivory head of big bubbles on an aggressive pour. Doesn't look like any doppelbock I've seen before. Aroma is interesting, and deserves high marks. Sweet toffee and caramel quickly transition into molasses, with fruit esters similar to fried apples. Mouthfeel has minimal carbonation, and some hop and alcohol bite. Taste begins with some bready yeastiness, but is soon dominated by a malty, molasses backbone. Several dark fruity flavors linger in the background, but don't fully emerge as they should. Some hoppy bitterness is always around to keep things interesting. Finishes with a caramel aftertaste that is immediately followed by a biiter, herbal hoppiness. This is a very tasty and complex brew, that is a departure from Bavarian doppelbocks due to a unique hops presence. Very enjoyable and pleasantly drinkable. (875 characters)

Photo of jzeilinger
3.76/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a golden orange color, slight amount of carbonation, no head/lacing.

Smell is underwhelming. Has the aroma of small traces of toffee, sweet caramel malt, and is slightly spicy zest in character and biscuity malt.

Taste is pretty much the same as the aroma. Has mildl toffee but dominating amounts of caramel, sweet malt, mild spiciness, and finishes with a very nice hop bitterness, without it, this beer would be far too sweet with this kind of malt bill. The bittersweet finish lingers for a few minutes and there's warming in the throat from the alcohol. This can best be described as a slightly lighter version of Samichlaus. The is a moderately strong fusal alcohol presence and noticeable warming on the way down the hatch. There is a small amount of oakines in the flavor.

Has a medium body, finishes clean, not syrupy, and very smooth and somewhat creamy..

Drinkability runs high, I could enjoy two or three of these! (937 characters)

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.27/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2

Fairly standard yellow beer color, albeit a bit hazy. Has kind of a skunky nose at first, not heavy, but I am kind of sensitive to the smell. It subsided after a minute, however, along with the short-lived half-inch head that started out so white and bubbly. There is also a slight sweet smell which does not give away the secret of how the beer will taste.

I know this is high alcohol, but geez, that first sip is a blast! Heavy and sweet, very prominent in your face alcohol flavor, mixing with sweet maltiness. Some nuttiness residual comes through as the alcohol and sugar burn clear out a bit, and baby it do burn some.

Fruity alcoholic aftertaste, like a medium-bodied semisweet wine. The low drinkability lowers what would be a reasonably good beverage. If I didn't know better, I'd think I was drinking malt liquor. Potent stuff campers. (851 characters)

Photo of yemenmocha
4.7/5  rDev +31.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours honey golden with thin white head. Nose is beautiful & delicate with honey, maybe honeydew, and faint malt. A leap of malt comes forward on the palate, with honey, and a luxurious malt component. Viscous body is amazing, and the beer has a hard to describe "hearty" character that is so lovable in bocks.

Fine example, though I think it is more of a Helles bock than a traditional doppel. (395 characters)

Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.55/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer poured into the glass crystal clear golden with a low white head that was quite persistent and lasted well to lace the glass.

The aroma was strong fruits, golden raisins some plums and occasional wafts of alcohol. The aroma contained a strong sweetness of malt and no appreciable hop aromas.

The flavor was slightly vinous and highly fruity. The flavor contained raisins and plums with some malty sweetness balanced with a nice hop bittering, but alcohol then showed it's ugly head and got in the way.

The finish was not quite dry with residual malty sweetness and strong residual fruit flavors and with alcohol and a slight hop bittering. The body was medium full and the carbonation was low. The alcohol was overshadowing most of the flavor and aroma in this beer. One was enough and the warming after consumption was strong.

11.2 ounce bottle, no freshness dating. Lightest dopplebock I have ever encountered. More the color of a spring bock, but definitely packs a powerful punch. (1,006 characters)

Photo of Mitchster
4.55/5  rDev +27.1%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Disappointed when I opened this brew. No "Pssssht", and there was only about 1/2" of head space. When I poured it, I was able to summon a small wisp of white foam and about 5 bubbles. The head that did form had good retention and obviously no lacing. Despite this, the aroma was pleasing, with a very firm maltiness, dates, golden raisins, vanilla, pleasant alcohol, and a very mild, yet cool sour grassiness. Aroma immediately tells you that this is a strong brew to be reckoned with. The mouthfeel is very slick and pleasantly syrupy with a medium body. Taste is also very nice despite being nearly flat...there is just enough carbonation to add some balancing acidity to the sticky, heavy malts. Taste starts floral and spicy with cloves, then vanilla, a ton of malt, and honey. The middle is very sweet with golden raisins and vinous grapes with a mild Noble hop bitterness. Slight hop flourish in the otherwise spicy, sweet, semi-dry finish. The alcohol, while barely evident in taste, is going straight to my head and gives me a warm tummy. Ahhh, this is nice. No perceptible off-flavors. The alcohol, while abundant, is a completely pleasant experience...The elements fall into perfect synchrony...symbiosis defined. As it warms, it stays constant, rich, and gratifying, conjuring pleasant memories of my stay in Austria.

After cracking open this baby, I thought it would be a stinker. Even with this faulted semi-flat bottle, I was floored and would easily buy it again. A very unique brew, and something that should be experienced! Thank you Eggenberg for this heavenly brew.

I will try to re-rate this with a better bottle in the future. (1,653 characters)

Photo of bobsy
3.16/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Very light lustrous golden body with a foamy white head that kicked up a bit of lace, but soon settled to an attractive spotty film. It reminded me a lot of a barleywine, and the high ABV seems more in line with that. It looks good, but it certainly doesn't look how it should for a doppelbock. The aroma is sweet and grainy, with a slight spiciness and noticeable alcohol.

Initial taste is quite sweet, and the alcohol is apparent, although it serves to dry the sweetness out a little and provide some more balance. There's also a bit of grain mixed in with the sweetness. There's not much to it at all, but for cheap beer who's complaining? Very syrupy, almost oily mouthfeel. Its really more of a sipper due to the heaviness of the alcohol, mouthfeel and sugar, but its a solid enough. The combined sweetness and high alcohol make this an almost certain headache inducer for me.

Eggenberg's take on the doppelbock style isn't particularly to my liking - they come in as far too sweet, and not nearly bready enough. This is probably my final attempt at a beer from these guys. (1,080 characters)

Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
81 out of 100 based on 293 ratings.