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Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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85
very good

374 Ratings
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Ratings: 374
Reviews: 226
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 15.43%
Wants: 21
Gots: 54 | FT: 0
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Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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Ratings: 374 | Reviews: 226
Photo of 2Bstout
3.98/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Vintage 2007 drank on 4/2/2015 at a bottle share

Photo of sporklift87
4.5/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Perhaps a quarter finger off-white head. Fades quickly and leaves no lacing. Clear and light amber in color. Smells like a barleywine, smelling bright golden raisins, prunes, brown sugar, and floral notes. Tastes very much like aromatics, picking up notes of honey. Very much like a barleywine or even a mead in certain aspects. Mouth-feel is very gentle, which surprised me considering the strength. Medium syrupy body. Minimal carbonation and warming sensation from alcohol, yet sweetness overcomes the drying feel I was expecting. Leaves a slick, oily feel on mouth, with a lingering aftertaste. Very interesting beer, one I'd be happy to pick up again, and will try to save some for cellaring.

Photo of pat61
4.38/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

From taste notes. Appearance: Pours brilliant garnet, almost looks like a mix of a chardonnay and a red. Has legs. Smell: Smells more like a wine with perfumy notes than a beer. Taste: A touch of fruit in the taste suggesting cherry, a little sweet but a deft hop touch on the end provides balancing bitterness. Mouthfeel: Full body, very low carbonation, a little hot. Overall: Sweet and hot. Something you would reach for instead of a mixed drink or a port.

Photo of Wamba
3.45/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

I'm not really sure what to think of this beer. Sweet, strong and malty.

Photo of Stoutguy33
4.89/5  rDev +30.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Hard to find beer. Had one from 2007 and it was absolutely amazing.

Photo of rangerred
2.74/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

330ml bottle into a snifter. 2010 vintage.

Pours a hazy brownish red with nary a head. Some very splotchy lacing on the sides of the glass but that's it.

Aroma lets you know this one will be sweet. Fruitcake and prunes along with some caramelized sugar. Some touches of sherry. Actually pretty good.

The taste is a complete sugar bomb. Brown sugar and caramel sauce mixed with prune juice. There is not much oxidation but it is really hard to get past the sweetness. Booze galore letting you know this is a strong beer. Warmth and sweetness linger.

Overall, I figured this one would be very sweet and I was right. I really wanted to enjoy this one but it just isn't for me.

Photo of HardTarget
4.22/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Amber orange glass doesn't hold a head, barely a halo of tiny white bubbles. Good clarity and a little leg.

Aroma: Sweet malty perfume, almost sickly sweet but cut with the alcohol and a hint of earthiness, almost a cellar dust.

Taste: A malt bomb to be sure, heavy sweet profile with a lot of subtle notes. Toffee, leather, peach skin, hint of barrel soaked alcohol, each sip packs a big punch.

Mouthfeel: Low carbonation, heavy body evaporates a bit in a cloud of boozy alcohol but leaves a residue of stickiness that triggers a bit of chew.

Overall: A great celebration beer; big bang in each taste, great mellowed alcohol, a Sugar Daddy like candy quality that can be a bit overwhelming and demands either sharing the bottle or taking the long, slow route with a water back. I'm going to enjoy this as a Christmas present from Illudium; Cheers!

Photo of midnightcowboy818
4.75/5  rDev +26.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Yum! Such a rich flavor

Photo of allforbetterbeer
4.26/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottled in 2007. Opened 12/27/2014 Poured into a Bristol 20th anniversary snifter.

Pours with a fire-tinged sunburst orange body. Light hiss when popping the cap. Small ring of white tiny-bubble head around the edge of the glass.

Smells like toffee baking, butter and brown sugar glaze. A little swirl brings up golden raisins, and notes of stewed fig jam. Glazed cooked carrots come to mind.

The flavor is quite impressive. This is the cleanest 8 year old beer I have ever tasted. Notes of honey, dark candi sugar, molasses, and rum-mascerated fruit cake. Very little cardboard or other off flavors. A slight clinging bitterness that isn't a positive aspect. Overall, surprisingly simple.

No alcohol burn whatsoever, with an amazingly sweet and heavy body after 8 years on a store shelf.

Overall: Very tasty and interesting beer. I am still amazed at the clean and simple taste of this rather old lager. Well worth a try for me.

Photo of Homers_Beer_Odyssey
3.25/5  rDev -13.6%

APPEARANCE - Dark red-amber with a 1-finger head that lasts. Good lacing.

AROMA/SCENT - Sweet, floral, herbaceous.

TASTE - Sweet, floral, herbaceous. Spices. Boozy. Lights you up immediately.

MOUTHFEEL/PALATE/TEXTURE - Gooey. Little carbonation.

VALUE - Reasonable.

OVERALL/DRINKABILITY - I did not like this beer. At best, sippable.

Photo of ThisWangsChung
2.8/5  rDev -25.5%

Brief write-up. This was a pretty significant step down next to the "original" Samichlaus for one simple reason: it's WAY TOO SWEET. Whereas Samichlaus manages to balance the sweet, dry, and alcohol qualities (albeit barely), this is just a sugary punch in the face. In a way, drinking this is like drinking a glass of pure buckwheat honey. On the plus side, the booze was concealed nicely - er, no, I should say it was completely suffocated by the cloying nature of this. This one needs about 5 years in the cellar...

2.8/5: Wilford Brimley, eat your heart out

Photo of ordybill
4.9/5  rDev +30.3%

Nice amber colored beer with a very sweet initial flavor followed by a strong alcohol bite. very little head. Overall an Outstanding beer, excellent as an after dinner follow up. Highly recommended.

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into signature tulip glass, bottled in 2012. Pours fairly crystal clear golden orange color with a 1 finger fairly dense off white head with solid retention, that reduces to a ring of lace. Minimal lacing on the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop notes; with great strength. Taste big of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, light pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Slight earthy bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity and robustness of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light carbonation and fairly full bodied; with a smooth and fairly slick/syrupy mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small-moderate warming after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Helles doppelbock style. All around great complexity and balance of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; and very smooth to sip on slowly for the huge ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

Photo of barczar
3.8/5  rDev +1.1%

Bottled in 07, it pours with large floaties and a modest, foamy head that disappears. Prunes, plums, dates, and figs underlie rich, sweet treacley malt, with notes of toffee surfacing late. Flavor is very sweet, but there's a bitter, dry finish, and sherry notes present themselves in the aftertaste. Figs and plums underlie caramel malt. There's still some alcohol warmth. I was hoping for less sweetness and more complex esters, but still a nice brew.

Photo of cjgiant
3.73/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Was talked into this beer at a German restaurant. Overall, the ABV of this beer is well hidden behind a sugar-y curtain. If you can get past this sweetness, this beer has some things going for it, but probably isn't for everyone.

Pours clear amber-towards-orange. The head remains at the edge, and provides some lacing. The nose is of sweet fruit, mostly dark, meaning date. There's also a heavy dense-bread scent, like bread pudding.

The taste starts almost overwhelmingly sweet, like straight sugar. This evolves to a light brown sugar and maybe into a molasses flavor. Underneath, the date and sugar-plum take hold. It is a German beer, and later in the taste, that becomes more evident to me. A spice note grabs the beer first to counter the sweet, maybe clove or nutmeg in nature, but it's not enough. Letting the beer finish, there is an obvious bitterness that creeps in to balance the sweetness, but it probably comes just a little late.

Photo of jdhilt
4.22/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a thin layer, white head that fades quickly leaving no lace. Crystal clear amber color. Very light carbonation and medium bodied. Nose is sugar and hints of alcohol, flavor is smooth and sweet, dark fruit, almost cloying. Similar to their classic. NOT a session beer - the 14% ABV is noticeable . . . savor this beer. $5.99 for a 330ml bottle, from Julio's Liquors Westborough, MA. Bottled in 2012.

Photo of Brandegee
4.04/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Even a hasty pour of this 2010 vintage produced only a thin layer of lager-like head that quickly vanished. Similarities to lighter beers end there as strong vapors of toffee, marinated dark fruits and soy... yep, soy,...greet the nose. I poured this shortly after having a platter of sashimi and I felt I was back at the sushi bar. This could be a decent compliment to raw fish.

The taste is toffee, raisins, grapes (brandy overtones), and lots and lots of sugar. The mouthfeel is syrupy yet a bit sour. It's an interesting combo that makes this a unique brew. I can't say it's my favorite doppelbock (Aventinus is probably the examplar for me), but this winter warmer works despite the aggressive ABV. Yeah, it's a bit boozy and hot, but not as bad as many barleywines or TRIPAs I've had.

Photo of CraigTravor
4.29/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

This was poured from a bottle into a tulip glass

A: Beautiful copper color. Very minimal head.

S: The smell of this beer is spectacular. I feel like it helps prepare me for the ensuing flavour

T: As it first hits your taste buds you feel the sweetness. It has a smooth candied flavour. There is a slight presence of alcohol

M: The mouthfeel brings the higher alcohol characteristic. It has a mellowing burn similar to that of a whiskey

O: This is a great beer. I don't think I could have more than one in a sitting, but one is just fine.

Photo of buschbeer
3.91/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2 FL. OZ. bottle
Served in a snifter
Bottled in 2007

A - This beer pours amber and hazy. There are chucks of yeast suspended in it. There was virtually no head.

S - It has a fruity nose. I smell some fig, dates, brown sugar, molasses, and raisins.

T - It has a sweet taste. It is kind of like candied dates. The alcohol is not anywhere in the taste, but if sure warms the cockles.

M - Syrupy.

O - It is a lot better than I anticipated. It has a pleasant fruitiness with no alcohol burn. Plus it makes me feel warm all over on another arctic evening in the Midwest.

Photo of kaplunk02
3.54/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

poured from a 12 oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: Light golden with one finger of white head.

S: Very sweet and sour. My first reaction is that it smells of apple vinegar but then I notice sweet raisin smell and caramel smells.

T: Very sweet with honey and caramel notes. A bit tart as well. It is sort of an apple tartness which I attribute to the alcohol. Also, it tastes of grapes in the way a sweet wine would.

M: A fair bit of carbonation and a sticky mouthfeel like syrup or something similar.

O: This is not a favorite of mine. It is very sweet and tart and might cater more to a wine drinker but for me it is too overwhelming in that respect.

Photo of SeatsTaken
3.54/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

2010 Vintage

Pour: Poured into a tulip glass. Color is a mix between light caramel and black tea, not much head at all from this bottle.

Aroma: A strong soy sauce and earthy, nutty character. There is also a caramel sweetness with a boozy finish.

Taste: Immediately I taste caramel, toffee, honey and agave nectar. Just like the nose, there is booze at the end but it disappears quickly.

Mouthfeel: Carbonation is very low and almost unnoticeable. Very thick. It coats the mouth and lingers.

Overall: A lot sweeter than I imagined. If it didn’t have the booze at the tail end this would be a very mellow beer, but it is still enjoyable.

Photo of maxcoinage
3.63/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 11.2 oz bottle ( Bottled in 2010) into a tulip with a 2 finger white head and noticeable bubbles. Color of the beer is golden orange.

Aroma is toffee, brown sugar, honey, almost getting candy corn like smell

Taste, wow is that sweet, some toffee. almost like eating a piece of candy. a little noticeable alcohol on the finish

Mouthfeel - lower carb, syrupy, a bit cloying

Overall - interesting beer. I think this would be good to pair with some sort of dessert like bread pudding maybe, and split with someone else. Definitely a good sharing beer based on the ABV and sweetness

Photo of dcmchew
3.73/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

bottled in 2012;
Pours light brown to red, like cranberry juice, with low head and fizz, no retention.
Smells of really sweet dark fruit, apricot, burnt sugar, licorice and booze.
Taste is extremely sweet, with cloying syrups, but not totally unbereable. Huge caramel, spiced with licorice and candi sugar, and hints of honey also. Dark fruitiness mostly (cherries, strawberries, plums) with hints of ripe apricot and peach, also a slight citrus crispness, nicely fighting the sweetness. Malts are quite pale, biscuity, a tiny bit toasted. Sweetness covers the spices, leaving just hints of vanilla and faint anise and minty sage. Alcohol is hidden, no, actually covered, by the big sweetness, so it's not extremely boozy for the very high abv. Hops provide the mildly bitter finish, bu the aftertaste consists mostly of the cloying sugar and booze.
After a while the entire head and lacing disappears, weird, but there's still a little fizz. Watery and sweet, like a fruit syrup drink.
Don't know what to say about it exactly, probably should have tried an older vintage, pretty sure it would have been way better. Will buy one to set aside for a while.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.94/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share held at Chloe's inside Golden Road Brewing in Los Angeles, CA.

2007 vintage.

Pours a hazy orange with a foamy tan head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Tiny chunks of sediment are seen floating around in the beer after the pour. Smell is of malt, caramel, toffee, fruit, and alcohol aromas. Taste is much the same with fruit and toffee flavors on the finish. There is a decent alcohol kick with each sip as well. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but sticky mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is super tasty but quite boozy and strong.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.69/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A: A small head, light and airy. The color of the beer is deep golden.

S: Out of this world; the sweet dark dried fruits reign supreme. The smell could as easily been from a Port. The well-balanced malt and the high ABV make the a very complex beer.

T: Very nice; a thick syrupy sweetness from a very powerful maltyness. Lots of dark dried fruits; apricots, raisins and figs. Also a fresh fruitness in the back. Very complex.

M: A short sweet aftertaste, not that surprising though, considering the ABV and style. The body is so thick and the carbonation is almost non-excisting.

O: I've had lots of dark Samichlaus - this is my first pale one. The only thing that could improve this beer is a couple of years cellaring - but my character is too weak...

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
85 out of 100 based on 374 ratings.