Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Reviews: 222
Hads: 375
rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 12.06%
Wants: 21
Gots: 54 | FT: 0
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Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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Photo of Monsteruss
5/5  rDev +34%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of my favorite beers. The foam was a light wheat/white which dissapated very quickly witha small ring afterwards. The color was nice golden honey with hints of red and orange in the light. Taste was exceptional - it was darker and heavier than percieved by color. It also had berry undertones. Smell - crisp, clean and a variety of exotic complex fruity hints. Mouthfeel was deep. Drinkibility - smooth and rich a nice aquired taste. (437 characters)

Photo of ordybill
4.9/5  rDev +31.4%

Nice amber colored beer with a very sweet initial flavor followed by a strong alcohol bite. very little head. Overall an Outstanding beer, excellent as an after dinner follow up. Highly recommended. (201 characters)

Photo of janubio
4.9/5  rDev +31.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I didin't know about this one until I saw a bottle in De Bierkoning in a trip to Amsterdam last year. Wish I had bought more bottles. Served in my rare Samichlaus glass, it pours some more head than its sister and lasts a bit more, but you can say it doesn't last. Very nice maber-orange colour, and absolutely beatiful when you hold it to the light.
Smells of honey, tropical fruits, dried fruits, and even almonds or hazelnuts or similar. Licorice, caramel. Silky sweet, maybe too sweet, flavor. Palate is similar, orange, honey, hazelnuts... only add a touch of oak. The finish is more like an orange liquor than a brandy, a difference to the Samichlaus we all know. The only "bad" thing that I could find is that I would have like it a little less sweetness, but when you have a beer like this, who cares? (810 characters)

Photo of dqrull
4.87/5  rDev +30.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage.

An immediate fluffy, creamy tan head, that quicly dissipates and leaves little to no lacing, a placid-looking beer, with a wonderful clear amber colour. Foams up a bit after a swirl, but the head disappears fast. The absence of head-retention makes it feel a bit inscrutable!

Whoa. The smell is phenomenal. Huuuuge malty sweetness, with some dried fruits in the back, a slight hint of grass is detectable also, along with a fudge-like sensatio. But this is a really awesomely complex malt-onslaught, beautifu.

Wow. Not nearly as prominent alcohol taste as I had anticipated, the viscosity isnt as thick as I was expecting either, but it sure is sweet. This is a really magnificient bouquet of tastes. The initial sweetness is the first thing that strikes you, but it is backed up by a slightly tart fruitness, some dried red berries, almost a bit of blueberry, some oaky tastes come through as well, with a hint of the usual suspect vanilla... all the while having a syrupy slightly clingy sweetness reminiscent of caramellized brown sugar. There isn't much else to this beer apart from the huge maltiness, but damn, this is SOME complex and interesting maltiness. The complexness here is very much of the same kind I might find in a glass of cognac, or even a non-smokey whiskey.
I'm really, really amazed that the alcohol is not more prominent in the taste here, but the body is so full, so bursting of sweetness and awesome flavours that the alcohol only lingers in the background all the while, contributing with a cozy warmth that complements the sweetness of the brew throughout, amazing.

Really syrupy thick, viscous mouthfeel, the carbonation is a little bit weak though, but that's pretty much expected from a beer like this.

I'm really eager to try the Samichlaus classic I have in the cellar, but damn, if that is only half as good as this, it will still be the second best doppelbock I've had. (1,924 characters)

Photo of stouts4me
4.85/5  rDev +30%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Served in a chalis from a 12 oz bottle.

A: nice golden yellow to orange color, thin white head, tiny bubbles coming from the bottom of the glass.

S: smell is malty, sweet deliciousness.

T: Out-of-this-World delicious !!! You have got to try this beer, malty mouthfeel, sweet, just downright damn good !

M: just like above, malty, smooth, sup this and just keep it in your mouth to "feel" the liquid, and "chew" it down your throat, then do it again, it is so delicious...

O: I cannot give it anything but the highest accolades, read the description on the back of the bottle, and you will agree, " one of the rarest specialities in the world ". (649 characters)

Photo of ntillemans
4.83/5  rDev +29.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured this one out into a snifter from an 11.2 oz bottle.

A - Very little head, which quickly vanished entirely. Golden and clear.

S - Strong alcohol smell, some fruitiness and caramel...very malty.

T - Caramel sweet and alcohol... very intense, reminds me of bourbon whiskey.

M - Very smooth creamy taste, with a bite in the back of the throat

D - For the high alcohol content, this was a smooth drink...but dangerous. (426 characters)

Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.69/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A: A small head, light and airy. The color of the beer is deep golden.

S: Out of this world; the sweet dark dried fruits reign supreme. The smell could as easily been from a Port. The well-balanced malt and the high ABV make the a very complex beer.

T: Very nice; a thick syrupy sweetness from a very powerful maltyness. Lots of dark dried fruits; apricots, raisins and figs. Also a fresh fruitness in the back. Very complex.

M: A short sweet aftertaste, not that surprising though, considering the ABV and style. The body is so thick and the carbonation is almost non-excisting.

O: I've had lots of dark Samichlaus - this is my first pale one. The only thing that could improve this beer is a couple of years cellaring - but my character is too weak... (760 characters)

Photo of JayS2629
4.65/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is very similar to the original samichlaus but sweeter and lighter.

A- Red amber with little head.

S- Brown sugar with notes of cherry and cinamon. Hints of vanilla.

T- Caramel and toffee with hints of vanilla and cherry. Some cinamon. Raw sugar.

M- Sticky and creamy. Almost cloying.

D- Strong but alcohol well hidden. Definitely a sipping beer. Slightly easier to drink that the original. Lighter and alcohol masked better. Sweeter. (444 characters)

Photo of FirkinDave
4.63/5  rDev +24.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Just came in stock.

Pours a golden straw color, still decent carbination for a 14%er.

Poured into a Cantillon glass for the nose. A noticable chocolate and blueberry came up, plus the candy sugar.

The first taste was of upfront candy sugar and slight hints of tangerine. This beer is big. Contained large mouth feel, not a big aftertaste. Light hop bitterness as the beer warmed, hints of champagne throughout.

The easiest way to describe this beer is as "extremely enjoyable."
Last brewed in 1986, I hope they keep release this beer yearly from now on. (557 characters)

Photo of donaldchapman
4.61/5  rDev +23.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Brilliantly clear, with a long lasting white head. (light yellow color)
S - Strong alcohol aroma, accompanied with some great pilsner malt like aromas.
T - Malty but well attenuated sweetness, with a good backing of hop bitterness. Alcohol notes that are very well balanced and pleasing.
M - Full body, with an intense warmth from the alcohol. No astringency, very smooth.

This is a wonderful beer, I think a bit of age on the bottle would help remove some of the harsh alcohol aromas from the nose, but the flavor was wonderful... (536 characters)

Photo of roadhouse
4.6/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap today at Three Floyds into a Samichlaus tulip glass.

Appearance was a bright and clear golden-orange with a one inch off-white head. It retained pretty well and left some decent lacing on the glass.

The aroma was pretty similar to the other one, without the "darker" notes. There's tons of sweet caramel and toffee notes, a big raisiny backbone, and a lovely brown sugarish sweetness. Alcohol is obviously apparent at 14% ABV, but doesn't distract.

The taste is just as good. Lots of sweetness throughout, with a lot of caramel sweetness and brown sugar in the beginning. Fruitiness is just as big, mostly of raisins, which enters right at the start of the swallow. The finish was a lingering of both the fruitiness and malt character. No hops to speak of son, this is malt country.

Mouthfeel was medium bodied, very smooth drinking with a slight crispness. Alcohol factor is slightly deterrent to drinkability.

I just don't understand how both Samichlaus are rated with a measly B+! These are world class beers in my opinion, easily the two best Doppelbocks ever, and I've had quite a few. I can sum this beer up in a few word: I need more. (1,163 characters)

Photo of cindyjeffsmith
4.52/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2007 Vintage
appearance: Similar to the 08' Samichlaus. Light copper with a very slight head. Decent lacing though.
smell: Yum. More butter and spicy goodness.
taste: Not quite up to the bottle of 08' I had a few weeks back but quite de-lish make no mistake. Toffee and light spice.
drinkability: Amazed at how smooth this monster is. (336 characters)

Photo of beerking1
4.52/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours medium gold, very clear, and with a medium but quickly fading head. Aroma is almost pure malt, very little hops, but some. Alcohol does come through, although very cleanly, in the aroma. Palate is full, and appropriate. Flavor is a wonderful malty, alcoholic and very clean beer. Uber-maibock anyone? (306 characters)

Photo of RoyalT
4.5/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance - This is a brilliantly clear slightly darkened orange in color with no head whatsoever due to the massive alcohol content. Sweet.

Smell - The first sense I get is of quality triple sec with a surprising absence of booze. I also am finding a rich but broken down malt base and some sound wood notes without that annoying vanilla fragrance. Nice again.

Taste - The booze comes through a little bit more at the taste as does the orange. The malt from the nose actually steps back a bit making this a big fruity booze-fest. The wood again is quite prominent and dominant.

Mouthfeel - This is medium-bodied with no alcohol sting whatsoever, which is absolutely amazing. There is a fascinating malty bitterness at the very back of the tongue and of course no carbonation at all.

Drinkability - I enjoy the high-octane stuff as anyone who knows me can attest. This is probably the highest quality booze bier that I've ever had. It is incredibly smooth with no sense of alcohol. You wouldn't even know of its high ABV except halfway through the glass you start falling down a lot. Extremely well done - a class act for sure.

Update - I had a chance to review this again in 2010. This is really an incredible beer and worth of the highest regards. It is a masterful effort and incorporates well the record-setting high ABV in a tasty, flavorful beverage.

The flavor is doppelbockesque with a thick, rich, malt base that has a high-octane orange charge in it. What the brewer has mastered though is the blending of the big alcohol and the sweetish malts. It's like a liquid malt love of some kind. Either way it is an amazing production and as a helles DB in a class all by its lonesome self. This is actually one of my favorite beers of all time. (1,755 characters)

Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

11.2 oz. Bottle
Bottled In: 2007

Pours a very nice clean/clear golden color, very nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, sweet, nice little spice note, and caramel. The taste is sweet, malty, alittle spicy, with some nice caramel notes. Medium Body. Very Drinkable, this one is very tasty, a true delight. Thanks Ben. (438 characters)

Photo of sporklift87
4.5/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Perhaps a quarter finger off-white head. Fades quickly and leaves no lacing. Clear and light amber in color. Smells like a barleywine, smelling bright golden raisins, prunes, brown sugar, and floral notes. Tastes very much like aromatics, picking up notes of honey. Very much like a barleywine or even a mead in certain aspects. Mouth-feel is very gentle, which surprised me considering the strength. Medium syrupy body. Minimal carbonation and warming sensation from alcohol, yet sweetness overcomes the drying feel I was expecting. Leaves a slick, oily feel on mouth, with a lingering aftertaste. Very interesting beer, one I'd be happy to pick up again, and will try to save some for cellaring. (698 characters)

Photo of natelocc787
4.47/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled in 2007.

Poured with a nice frothy head. This beer was reminiscent of Avery's "Beast" but much better. The nose was all booze, vanilla, cognac, corn syrup and grain. While others noted the taste wasn't complex, I had a different experience. Nice graininess, high alcohol which was warming and soothing, bourbon, vanilla bean, heavy caramel malt and sweet, sweet oak chips in the taste. I loved the high alcohol, I suppose the same people who make a sour face when drinking liquor straight might say this was too much. It was just right for me, very tasty, much to offer. Slick and oily mouthfeel with mellow carbonation-just right. This is like a V.S.O.P. version of the style. The cognac of beer no doubt. Would absolutely love a case of this. This is what a boss should drink. (787 characters)

Photo of lifeboyq
4.47/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage poured into a gouden chalice with minimal head and little retention. it is a translucent burnt orange with ruby hues.

the one i drank last night was oxidized at first but with a vigorous swirl and some time to let the oxygen hit the surface of the beer, it opened up beautifully and the penny taste was gone. this one didnt need that as its bouquet was there from the offset so you may note that ify ou do get an oxidized taste that beer bottle isnt ready and needs to open up so just let it sit there.

it has that syrupy silky velvety heavy mouthfeel but not quite as thick as say a jw lees.

the tongue is sorghum sugar, maple syrup, some peaty earthiness, vanilla with candy apple and wood on the finish.

world class offering and drinking very well right now if it is given time to open up. pour it and let it sit there , swirl it some to help it. dont drink it too fast or you will miss what it has to offer.

great great stuff. (952 characters)

Photo of SFLpunk
4.43/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750mL painted brown glass swingtop. "Bottled in 2007." This is one of 12 bottles that came into the state of Vermont recently.

Appearance: Almost no carbonation. A clear, orange/gold hue that gets thin and watery at the rim, going more burnt yellow towards the edges.

Nose: Sweet Jesus! Candy malt, light caramel, yellow plantains, a quick zip of licorice, candied orange peel, and some prickly alcohol.

Palate: Medium bodied, almost no carbonation, and a little hot and sweet up front. As the sugar-shock fades, toasty malt notes come out. A little creme brulée, Marcona almonds, a faint whisper of citrus, a touch of ripe banana, and sweet buttered oak. A warming finish of alcohol carries the flavors on for minutes after the sip.

Notes: At 14% ABV, this beer is surprisingly balanced. It's hot, and a little prickly, but it doesn't feel like 14. 10 maybe. The finish is incredibly long, and the ageability of this beer is out of this world. I might have to buy some for my children...maybe it will be mature by then!

Oh man. The finish is amazing. The banana/plantain thing comes in and out of focus for minutes after the sip. I'm going to go make some seared dry-rubbed Pollack and some red beans and rice to have with this! (1,235 characters)

Photo of pat61
4.38/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

From taste notes. Appearance: Pours brilliant garnet, almost looks like a mix of a chardonnay and a red. Has legs. Smell: Smells more like a wine with perfumy notes than a beer. Taste: A touch of fruit in the taste suggesting cherry, a little sweet but a deft hop touch on the end provides balancing bitterness. Mouthfeel: Full body, very low carbonation, a little hot. Overall: Sweet and hot. Something you would reach for instead of a mixed drink or a port. (460 characters)

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.35/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Even a rough pour will bring up only a diminutive head on Samiclaus Helles. That's understandable in that it's 14% alcohol, but surely the extra body should make up for it. Not the case. It's amber body appears deeper, almost copperish, in the glass, but when held to the light it reveals sparkling golden highlights. A fair amount of very tiny bubbles climb steadily upward, indicating that there's a fair amount of carbonation to it; and what delicate cottony head was initially formed benefits from it. Alas, it fades quickly, and beyond that only tiny spots of lacing are left about the glass.

The aroma is clean and malty. It's mainly grainy, but there's also a hint of fruitiness in its sweetness.

In the mouth it's full bodied, but not over-done, and silky smooth - far from syrupy... of course, the alcohol is helping to cut the sugars as well. The delicate carbonation is just enough to lend a gentle caress to the palate.

The flavor is, not surprisingly, very rich. Also, probably not surprisingly, it's not really that complex. This is the blonde version, so of course it's going to be more straightforward in character. It offers a healthy dose of grainy malt, a flicker of hot alcohol (but not too much), and a moderately fruity sweetness in the finish. There are some hops present as well, but they can't compete with the (almost candyish) sweetish malt up-front, and tend to make themselves known only across the middle and into the finish. They're herbal, and mildly spicy (or is that the alcohol that's spicy?).

Overall, it's remarkably well done. The alcohol is kept in check, and it's balanced. The flavor is rich and satiating, but not cloying. (This is truly "liquid bread"). The appearance is great, but the head could be much better; and the aroma is right on. Worth trying! I could even see using this as a cordial at a Christmas dinner. Very nice. (1,877 characters)

Photo of Beertracker
4.35/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Schloss Eggenberg Samichlaus Helles pours up compact with a moderate, but short lived whitish head that rings the bright, deep sunglow body. The sweetish aroma has a wonderful honey (basswood, orange blossom, tupelo) character to it with some toasted bread (Italian ciabatta, crustinis, Melba toast) maltiness and fruity (clementines, orange marmalade) qualities. There's just a hint of spiciness from the Noble finishing hops that's underlying the maltiness along with some notable alcohol. Otherwise clean, low fruitiness, no diacetyl or DMS. The flavor is dominated by a rich toasted, sweet melanoidin maltiness that's remarkably well balanced by a pleasant spicy hop bitterness. This medium-full bodied lager finishes remarkably smooth with lots of alcoholic warmth & complexity. This is a finely crafted pale doppelbock from one of the world's great lager breweries. Truly wonderful! Enjoy this one cautiously by itself after dinner or paired with a piece of classic cheesecake or a thick slice of Camembert de Normandie. ...I'm glad to see the blond version back into production. Das starkste Bier der Welt...I'll BE BACK!

PROST! Beertracker (1,148 characters)

Photo of AmericanGothic
4.35/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into Unibroue tulip. 2007 vintage.

A Beautiful light amber honey color. Lively carbonation, two finger off-white head subsides slowly. Barely any lace.

S: Mellow yeasty bread notes, sweet, dark fruits.

T: Oh, wow. Is this beer, or port? Fantastic sweetness balanced by fruits (raisins, prunes, a little banana and currants) and some accompanying spice-- cinnamon and clove. Delicious, light caramel. Alcohol present but not objectionable.

M: Just enough carbonation to remind you this is truly beer, medium body, smooth, slightly oily.

D: A slow sipper for sure, no hurry to go through this, will last a while.

An old friend raves and raves about this, so I had to try it. Good recommendation, for my tastebuds. Intense, but refined. If you want to know what beer tastes like 5,000 feet above barleywine, this is it. (845 characters)

Photo of Scoobydank
4.35/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L: Bright white head that disapears immediatley. The color is that of a sprakling aple cider. So a nice amber color. Very inviting.
S: I am picking up just a hint of burnt nuts. Just a touch of peach
T: A delcious creamy vanillasweetness is the biggest thing immediately. The nuttiness from the smell sitcks around on the back.
M: Big warm creaminess for a big full roundness for a very pleasant mouthfeel
D:Great considering it was 14% alcohol. It did not taste hot at all. Definitely something that can get me in trouble. (523 characters)

Photo of GClarkage
4.33/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

10/23/08- Purchased at Ledger's in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 11.2oz bottle, bottled in 2007. Poured into my Trois Pistoles goblet.

Appearance- Lighter copper in color. Pours with a 3/4 inch light foamy head on a hard pour, which soon fades to a very slight rim. Leaves light spotty lace.

Smell- Kinda has a good smell and an odd smell at the same time. Not really outgoing with sugary caramel notes and a wet dog fur nose.

Taste- Very rich and caramely. No real hops involved, but lots and lots of smooth roasted caramel malts. Maybe a slash of orange liquor like flavor as well. Drambuie?

Mouthfeel- Very smooth with a medium to slight lower carbonation level. Warming with a full mouthfeel.

Drinkability- Alcohol is nicely hidden in this one. Really hard to keep from chugging this rather than sipping. Super easy to drink. Will have again in the future. $4.99 price tag. (881 characters)

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
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