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Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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85
very good

336 Ratings
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Ratings: 336
Reviews: 213
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 15.47%
Wants: 18
Gots: 49 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007)
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4.5/5  rDev +20%

joepais, Dec 29, 2011
Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +20%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

11.2 oz. Bottle
Bottled In: 2007

Pours a very nice clean/clear golden color, very nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, sweet, nice little spice note, and caramel. The taste is sweet, malty, alittle spicy, with some nice caramel notes. Medium Body. Very Drinkable, this one is very tasty, a true delight. Thanks Ben.

Wasatch, Feb 26, 2011
Photo of kvnstfrd
4.5/5  rDev +20%

kvnstfrd, May 23, 2013
Photo of lifeboyq
4.48/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage poured into a gouden chalice with minimal head and little retention. it is a translucent burnt orange with ruby hues.

the one i drank last night was oxidized at first but with a vigorous swirl and some time to let the oxygen hit the surface of the beer, it opened up beautifully and the penny taste was gone. this one didnt need that as its bouquet was there from the offset so you may note that ify ou do get an oxidized taste that beer bottle isnt ready and needs to open up so just let it sit there.

it has that syrupy silky velvety heavy mouthfeel but not quite as thick as say a jw lees.

the tongue is sorghum sugar, maple syrup, some peaty earthiness, vanilla with candy apple and wood on the finish.

world class offering and drinking very well right now if it is given time to open up. pour it and let it sit there , swirl it some to help it. dont drink it too fast or you will miss what it has to offer.

great great stuff.

lifeboyq, Apr 01, 2012
Photo of natelocc787
4.47/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled in 2007.

Poured with a nice frothy head. This beer was reminiscent of Avery's "Beast" but much better. The nose was all booze, vanilla, cognac, corn syrup and grain. While others noted the taste wasn't complex, I had a different experience. Nice graininess, high alcohol which was warming and soothing, bourbon, vanilla bean, heavy caramel malt and sweet, sweet oak chips in the taste. I loved the high alcohol, I suppose the same people who make a sour face when drinking liquor straight might say this was too much. It was just right for me, very tasty, much to offer. Slick and oily mouthfeel with mellow carbonation-just right. This is like a V.S.O.P. version of the style. The cognac of beer no doubt. Would absolutely love a case of this. This is what a boss should drink.

natelocc787, Nov 18, 2009
Photo of SFLpunk
4.47/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750mL painted brown glass swingtop. "Bottled in 2007." This is one of 12 bottles that came into the state of Vermont recently.

Appearance: Almost no carbonation. A clear, orange/gold hue that gets thin and watery at the rim, going more burnt yellow towards the edges.

Nose: Sweet Jesus! Candy malt, light caramel, yellow plantains, a quick zip of licorice, candied orange peel, and some prickly alcohol.

Palate: Medium bodied, almost no carbonation, and a little hot and sweet up front. As the sugar-shock fades, toasty malt notes come out. A little creme brulée, Marcona almonds, a faint whisper of citrus, a touch of ripe banana, and sweet buttered oak. A warming finish of alcohol carries the flavors on for minutes after the sip.

Notes: At 14% ABV, this beer is surprisingly balanced. It's hot, and a little prickly, but it doesn't feel like 14. 10 maybe. The finish is incredibly long, and the ageability of this beer is out of this world. I might have to buy some for my children...maybe it will be mature by then!

Oh man. The finish is amazing. The banana/plantain thing comes in and out of focus for minutes after the sip. I'm going to go make some seared dry-rubbed Pollack and some red beans and rice to have with this!

SFLpunk, Dec 16, 2008
Photo of NeroFiddled
4.38/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Even a rough pour will bring up only a diminutive head on Samiclaus Helles. That's understandable in that it's 14% alcohol, but surely the extra body should make up for it. Not the case. It's amber body appears deeper, almost copperish, in the glass, but when held to the light it reveals sparkling golden highlights. A fair amount of very tiny bubbles climb steadily upward, indicating that there's a fair amount of carbonation to it; and what delicate cottony head was initially formed benefits from it. Alas, it fades quickly, and beyond that only tiny spots of lacing are left about the glass.

The aroma is clean and malty. It's mainly grainy, but there's also a hint of fruitiness in its sweetness.

In the mouth it's full bodied, but not over-done, and silky smooth - far from syrupy... of course, the alcohol is helping to cut the sugars as well. The delicate carbonation is just enough to lend a gentle caress to the palate.

The flavor is, not surprisingly, very rich. Also, probably not surprisingly, it's not really that complex. This is the blonde version, so of course it's going to be more straightforward in character. It offers a healthy dose of grainy malt, a flicker of hot alcohol (but not too much), and a moderately fruity sweetness in the finish. There are some hops present as well, but they can't compete with the (almost candyish) sweetish malt up-front, and tend to make themselves known only across the middle and into the finish. They're herbal, and mildly spicy (or is that the alcohol that's spicy?).

Overall, it's remarkably well done. The alcohol is kept in check, and it's balanced. The flavor is rich and satiating, but not cloying. (This is truly "liquid bread"). The appearance is great, but the head could be much better; and the aroma is right on. Worth trying! I could even see using this as a cordial at a Christmas dinner. Very nice.

NeroFiddled, Feb 26, 2008
Photo of GClarkage
4.38/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

10/23/08- Purchased at Ledger's in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 11.2oz bottle, bottled in 2007. Poured into my Trois Pistoles goblet.

Appearance- Lighter copper in color. Pours with a 3/4 inch light foamy head on a hard pour, which soon fades to a very slight rim. Leaves light spotty lace.

Smell- Kinda has a good smell and an odd smell at the same time. Not really outgoing with sugary caramel notes and a wet dog fur nose.

Taste- Very rich and caramely. No real hops involved, but lots and lots of smooth roasted caramel malts. Maybe a slash of orange liquor like flavor as well. Drambuie?

Mouthfeel- Very smooth with a medium to slight lower carbonation level. Warming with a full mouthfeel.

Drinkability- Alcohol is nicely hidden in this one. Really hard to keep from chugging this rather than sipping. Super easy to drink. Will have again in the future. $4.99 price tag.

GClarkage, Oct 24, 2008
Photo of AmericanGothic
4.38/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into Unibroue tulip. 2007 vintage.

A Beautiful light amber honey color. Lively carbonation, two finger off-white head subsides slowly. Barely any lace.

S: Mellow yeasty bread notes, sweet, dark fruits.

T: Oh, wow. Is this beer, or port? Fantastic sweetness balanced by fruits (raisins, prunes, a little banana and currants) and some accompanying spice-- cinnamon and clove. Delicious, light caramel. Alcohol present but not objectionable.

M: Just enough carbonation to remind you this is truly beer, medium body, smooth, slightly oily.

D: A slow sipper for sure, no hurry to go through this, will last a while.

An old friend raves and raves about this, so I had to try it. Good recommendation, for my tastebuds. Intense, but refined. If you want to know what beer tastes like 5,000 feet above barleywine, this is it.

AmericanGothic, Mar 05, 2011
Photo of Scoobydank
4.38/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L: Bright white head that disapears immediatley. The color is that of a sprakling aple cider. So a nice amber color. Very inviting.
S: I am picking up just a hint of burnt nuts. Just a touch of peach
T: A delcious creamy vanillasweetness is the biggest thing immediately. The nuttiness from the smell sitcks around on the back.
M: Big warm creaminess for a big full roundness for a very pleasant mouthfeel
D:Great considering it was 14% alcohol. It did not taste hot at all. Definitely something that can get me in trouble.

Scoobydank, Jan 23, 2008
Photo of Beertracker
4.35/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Schloss Eggenberg Samichlaus Helles pours up compact with a moderate, but short lived whitish head that rings the bright, deep sunglow body. The sweetish aroma has a wonderful honey (basswood, orange blossom, tupelo) character to it with some toasted bread (Italian ciabatta, crustinis, Melba toast) maltiness and fruity (clementines, orange marmalade) qualities. There's just a hint of spiciness from the Noble finishing hops that's underlying the maltiness along with some notable alcohol. Otherwise clean, low fruitiness, no diacetyl or DMS. The flavor is dominated by a rich toasted, sweet melanoidin maltiness that's remarkably well balanced by a pleasant spicy hop bitterness. This medium-full bodied lager finishes remarkably smooth with lots of alcoholic warmth & complexity. This is a finely crafted pale doppelbock from one of the world's great lager breweries. Truly wonderful! Enjoy this one cautiously by itself after dinner or paired with a piece of classic cheesecake or a thick slice of Camembert de Normandie. ...I'm glad to see the blond version back into production. Das starkste Bier der Welt...I'll BE BACK!

PROST! Beertracker

Beertracker, Jun 22, 2008
Photo of dstc
4.33/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a beautiful, deep copper color. Off-white head falls to nothing. Thinnest if lace.

Aroma is all malt and very sweet. Alcohol comes through as well.

Taste mimics the aroma with heavy malts and big sweetness. No real hops to be found. Boozy and sweet in the finish.

Medium to full bodied mouthfeel with low carbonation and a warming alcohol bite.

Wow, great malt bomb. This stuff is very nice. Try it.

dstc, Jan 04, 2011
Photo of Flashsp2
4.3/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Samichlaus Helles Malt Liquor (doppelbock)

2007 vintage, poured into a slender tulip in April 2009

Pours a nice medium red with golden highlights. Short lived white head with no lacing to speak of, typical of high octane beers.

A nice toasty malt flavor with some prune like notes, and a good bit of booze as the beer warms. A cough syrup/medical aroma from the big alcoholic phenols.

Flavor is big toasty malts, some sweetness, a warming/prickly hit from the 14% ABV, some dark fruit/prune. Some oak and sherry qualities from the aging as well, all around quite complex for a lager. No hop flavor or bitterness, which makes sense for the aging and style. Some medical quality from the phenols, giving off a bit of cough syrup on the palette as well as the nose.

Mouthfeel is quite syrupy and the carbonation is very low.Feels very hefty and chewy in the mouth. Alcohol provides a bit of warmth.

This beer isn't super easy drinking, but the overall complexity of the experience makes up for it. This is a great beer, and a super treat for anybody who can get their hands on one (or a few if you want to lay them down for a while).

Flashsp2, Mar 15, 2010
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4.3/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11.2-oz bottle poured into a white wine glass.

A = Beautiful clear amber, very little carbonation. Coats glass when swirled. Looks like a white port inthe glass.

S = White pepper, wet grains, yeast, sunflower pollen. Very complex yet understated smell. The alcohol definitely make an appearance, too.

T = Smooth lagered taste, but lots of force. The alcohol hits as soon as the liquid hits mid-palate. The taste is mostly simply that of malted grains, but there are spicy peppery hints and a certain amount of unused yeast still in the mix (surprising given how high the yeast already pushed the ABV). Helles is good but a little uneven, not as good as the standard Samichlaus in my opinion. May mellow with age though.

M = Thick bodied, low but noticable carbonation, good mouth coating.

D = Depends what you want. This is clearly a good beer, but it is very strong. I think it needs some time to age before drinking, right now (1 year old) it is too sharp, but next year I wll happily try this again (and put next year batch down to rest).

Traquairlover, Jan 06, 2008
Photo of Drinkerofales
4.3/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage, aged 5 years by my good friends at Hollingshead.

Pours copper orange with a tiny dirty tan head which dissipates in less than one minute. No lacing, but not surprising considering the huge abv.

Smell is sweet booze, toffee, roasted malts and more cloyingly sweet plum skin. What a daunting, yet enticing aroma.

Taste is awesome, nicely sweet candied malt. There is some booze, but it's not overpowering. Deep and malty, huge and balanced.

Feel is thick and syrupy. There is almost no carbonation, but that's alright. The beer warms my stomach like a fine spirit, but doesn't burn as much on my tongue.

What a strange and awesome brew. I am glad I picked up this nicely aged beer. Everything about this is scary, but once I filled my mouth with this concoction, I was very pleased. While alcohol is present in every aspect, it's balanced, and only by it's aging.

This beer is the true Arrogant Bastard. Huge and takes the other beers to school, and makes them their bitch. Be afraid, if you can't handle this, it's alright, you aren't ready, or perhaps, you didn't age it long enough.

DOA

Drinkerofales, Mar 05, 2012
Photo of CraigTravor
4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

This was poured from a bottle into a tulip glass

A: Beautiful copper color. Very minimal head.

S: The smell of this beer is spectacular. I feel like it helps prepare me for the ensuing flavour

T: As it first hits your taste buds you feel the sweetness. It has a smooth candied flavour. There is a slight presence of alcohol

M: The mouthfeel brings the higher alcohol characteristic. It has a mellowing burn similar to that of a whiskey

O: This is a great beer. I don't think I could have more than one in a sitting, but one is just fine.

CraigTravor, Feb 18, 2014
Photo of CWiggins
4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The events as they unfolded:
1. Read about Samichlaus beer in BeerAdvocate.
2. Saw it in North Carolina less than two weeks later, first at Brawley's (Charlotte) and then Sam's Quik Stop (Durham). Picked up a four pack immediately! (I still have one bottle of that pack.)
3. Walked into Sam's just two evenings ago and encountered two--not just one, but two--different case stacks of Samichlaus beer, one of a new variety. Both species retail at $16.99 a four-pack, and I couldn't resist picking up a single bottle of the Helles Lager to try. There's not too much of a hurry to pick up the Doppelbock; Sam's still has some left over from last season!

I agree with the previous reviewer that perhaps this is the wrong style category for this beer. Almost none of the traditional Doppelbock characteristics are present here, with the sole exception of ABV strength. Helles Bock may be a better choice, but Samichlaus Helles Lager certainly reminds me of the many Imperial Pilseners I've enjoyed recently. Hmmm.

It pours a dark yellow into my pint glass; the near-white head is not substantial and isn't sustained for very long. The liquid is nearly transparent, and bubbles continue to rise from the depths of the glass to the surface. It's quite a beauty to hold up to the light and watch for a bit.

There's so much going on in the smell: there are elements of heavy yeasts and malts combined with floral esters, all backed up with the scent of warm alcohol. One barely needs to proceed further.

The body is nearly chewy, and the feel of alcohol on the tongue is noticably strong. Lighter flavors of grain and hops are married to the heavier floral and sweet flavors. It's refreshing, and yet, as the same time, a serious undertaking. I wanted to guzzle it like some thirst-quenching soda or fruit-flavored water, but the heaviness keeps it more at bay. One is all I can handle!

Quite an interesting brew, and one I'll certain to keep around for winter and spring.

CWiggins, Dec 01, 2007
Photo of ronniebruner
4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Wow! What a great brew! The beer pours a beautiful orange and gold color with a perfectly clear tinge. Not alot of head or lace, just a good old fashioned, high alcohol beer here! The aroma is sweet and smells of fermented grains and sweet alcohol, with a nice bit of singe to the note. The beer has a nice taste of grains and alcohol and really warms up as it is going down. Leaves a wonderful slight burn on the tongue and is a very worthy contender in my book as one of the top 10 beers I have tried, without a doubt. A bit expensive, but worth every penny.

ronniebruner, Feb 20, 2012
Photo of czfreeman
4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2007 Pop-top 1pt 9.4oz bottle. I recived this as a birthday present earlier this month,as the brewing date corresponds with my birthday.
Pours out a cherry-brown tone,leaving little to no head.
Aromas are cherry cordial sweetness,congac-bite,a rich vanilla custard sweetness.Think Arm cheesecake. Malty earthy tones make up the crust of this delicious treat.
Taste is rendolent of the aroma. Spicy,sweet, cherrys up front,finishes with a cherry malt bite. German Gluhwein is immediatley called to mind, spicy and biting.The fullness of the creaminess of the taste is silky as eggnog, this really hits all points of a holiday drink.Long and lingering,this would be perfect sitting next to the tree at Chrismastime.
The mouthfeel is very full, the bite of the gingery spiciness combined with the sweet fullness of the creamy cherry-spice flavor make this a fantastic holiday treat. I hope to enjoy each year. Cheers St. Nick!

czfreeman, Dec 13, 2008
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4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours just like any other helles - pale golden color, thin white head, and you can see through it quite well.

Nose is a little tepid. Some honey & sweetbread aromas.

Palate packs a whopper malt character with honey-like sweetness, alcohol punch to your face, and a syrupy thick mouthfeel. It's not almost syrupy, it is syrupy. This could be served on buttermilk pancakes if desired.

Finish is warming with plenty of alcohol presence.

yemenmocha, Jun 07, 2008
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4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Red label Samichlaus Helles was picked up in a 12 oz., brown bottle, and poured into a goblet. The beer came out fizzy and developed almost no head, but the body was a crystal clear, pale gold. The smell was quite a fruity and alcoholic treat. Lots of pears, apples, and grapes on the nose, soaked in cognac. The taste was warm, sweet, and ... well it was hard to get past the sweet. The spices (anise and pepper), vanilla, and fruits were all drizzled in lots of powdered sugar. Some might find this level of sweetness cloying, but I found the strong countering by the drying alcohol a sufficiently palatable combination. As I got further along, some hop bitterness showed up as well. Very richly textured, and oh so warming. Some might consider this a good fireside sipper, but I'd be beware of igniting the vapors. Fits all the classic definitions of a cellarable a beer, and I sure will be stashing away some for a decade or more to get it to peak.

rajendra82, Feb 22, 2008
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4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I didn't even know this existed, until I saw someone order it at the bar I'm marooned at while the rain pours down. So, here I go, a drinkin'...

Clear amber color, smallish white head, stick around a bit...

Aroma: clean and lightly fruity, peach and apple, apricot and herbs...

Drink it already!....Boom! Big fat malt, huge fruity flavor, little hops, nothing but enormous malt and alcohol. Slick, sweet, clean. Yum. Light bodied, lean, sweet, malty lager....way over-sized booze. Incredible, formidable, intense. Burning fruit roasts the palate, clean and mean, ...yum, and hot! yum, and fierce! yum, and POW!

Mmmm, all 14 % blonde doppelbocks should be this good!

feloniousmonk, Sep 23, 2010
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4.25/5  rDev +13.3%

reaganrvltn, Sep 01, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +13.3%

DoktorEd, Oct 07, 2014
Photo of MuenchenerKindl
4.25/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a smallish 11.2 oz bottle to a beer glass, the liquid is a nice clear gold with soso carbonation. The head is small and leaves very little lace.

The smell is alcohol socked bread.

The taste follows a very nice bready big brew. And bam lots of alcohol too. Taste complexities include, pear, peach and cherries. But it seems the huge 14% ABV will chase most.

The mouthfeel is huge full body, subdued carbonation and a bit of burn.

The drinkability... Well ha this brew is a sipper to be sure. Take it easy kids.

Prosit Und Zum Wohl, MK

MuenchenerKindl, Feb 03, 2008
Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
85 out of 100 based on 336 ratings.