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Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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85
very good

336 Ratings
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Ratings: 336
Reviews: 213
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 15.47%
Wants: 17
Gots: 49 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007)
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Photo of psychoanesthesia
1.3/5  rDev -65.3%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

This beer is terrible.

It's the color of apple juice. Or urine. No head due to high alcohol content.

It smells like caramelized sugar, rotten apples and/or other similar fruits, and alcohol.

It tastes like it smells. Cloyingly sweet, rotten tasting; overall, very offensive. The alcohol warmth doesn't help. This beer is all malt - the little bitterness it does have is from the alcohol. The first time I drank this beer I was convinced I had purchased a bad bottle. So I drank another one to confirm. Yup, it's that bad alright! One dimension to this beer, folks - crap.

Mouthfeel is kinda like lightly carbonated vomit - slick, thick, and unpleasant. Drinkability is poor due mainly to the fact that it tastes bad and has 14% alcohol. It's lightly carbonated, so that helps the drinkability, I guess.

The original Samichlaus is actually very good (as is Samichlaus Helles's cheaper counterpart, the Urbock 23), so I would emphatically recommend avoiding this beer.

psychoanesthesia, Jul 29, 2010
Photo of BeardedBoffin
1.43/5  rDev -61.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

This hefty brew was delivered in a 33 cl brown vessel. The beer poured a handsome amber color, but the is completely devoid of foam, due to the high alcohol content I suppose.

The aroma charges into the nasal passages like something from a bygone war. Heavily scented with sweetly fermenting grains--not rotten, but not far from it. The thought of high-protein cattle feed is also triggered by the waft. The booze is inescapable. The aroma bursts forth into flavor on the palate evincing a wince from this taste tester. Everything the nose foretold is here, recklessly floundering about, before it signs off with a big boozy burn.

I am able to enjoy a malt bomb. The more barleywine, the better, I always say. But I am having trouble locating anything positive about the taste profile of this malty brew. After the first sip, I braved one more, but then could not continue. The label proudly boasts, "The world's most extraordinary beverage". I, for one, would use a different adjective.

BeardedBoffin, Aug 16, 2010
Photo of bobhits
2/5  rDev -46.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

Pours a lighter reddish color. At first I think it could be another amazingly clear beer, but this is cloudy and has some floaters, good thing considering this is a 2007 bottle. There was a very cheap white head that vanished in moments.

The hop profile here is a bit….bad for the malt mix. It just starts off sour and wrong. A bit of air and the malt takes back control and the hops are long gone. Still redish off putting smell. Earthy hops and cheap pale malts. With some air on it a bit better, still a sweet mess of aromas and alcohol with an odd hop finish i don't like.

This is a new type of beer to me. Not the English barely wine I’ve had and yet doesn’t really come off as say an imperial pale. Alcohol earthy and sharp hops and a bland as the world could be malt. I like (forget who said this) but the comment about this being like rock candy in the malt. It’s sweet, it isn’t really sugar cane clean, but darn rock candy is about as close as you can get.

Thick, a touch of carbonation, and even at over 3 years of age still alcohol dominate.

This bottle was about 5 dollars. I cannot express how over priced that is given this beers qualities. The classic Samichlaus has many qualities that make me certain age will improve it. It has some darn nice effects. This is just alcohol and sweetness to say “look how big I am.” The reason this beer was last brewed and bottled in the 80’s is because there wasn’t anyone begging for more.

bobhits, Apr 22, 2011
Photo of ctejada10
2/5  rDev -46.7%

ctejada10, Aug 13, 2013
Photo of jballeng
2.15/5  rDev -42.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Pours dark amber with little to no head. Malty aroma. Accents of malt, chestnuts, and pears. Alcohol makes a VERY strong presence at the finish. So sweet as to induce gagging. An unpleasant brew; felt like I was drinking cough syrup. On the other hand, I admire the bottle design.

jballeng, Jun 11, 2009
Photo of philipquarles
2.25/5  rDev -40%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Pours a clear orange-gold with essentially no head (even with an aggressive pour) and no bubbling.

Smells overwhelmingly like candied sugar, along with a bit of malt, fruit esters (apples, grapes and pears maybe?) and of course, alcohol.

Taste is egregiously sweet. Akin to spiked apple juice with some Sweet 'n' Low thrown in for good measure. A bit of malt flavor is certainly present, but the sweet, sugary fruit taste and the alcohol all but mask it. Mouthfeel is like syrup.

Overall, nearly undrinkable.

philipquarles, Aug 20, 2008
Photo of yamar68
2.4/5  rDev -36%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

2010 vintage poured into a snifter:

Pours a deep pumpkin orange with a finger of off-white head that falls over within minutes. Decent lacing. The nose is still pretty aggressive. Big boozy licorice with a bit of dark wood and raisin. On the tongue, this is just sherry and not much else. Confusingly oxidized for its age and comes across way hotter than 14 percent. Mouthfeel is fine but overall the beer is disappointing. "The World’s Most Extraordinary Beverage"? Extra ordinary, not extraordinary.

yamar68, Mar 05, 2012
Photo of klewis
2.4/5  rDev -36%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

A: Pours a light golden with a small, bubbly head. Little sustain or lacing.

S: Caramel and soft tropical fruit aromas with a strong fusel smell.

T: Pineapple with a toffee-like backbone. The flavors are nicely balanced, but the alcohol in this one is overwhelming.

M: Full-bodied with plenty of carbonation. Dry.

D: I generally prefer that the beers that I drink do not burn my sinuses. With that being said I'll pass on this next time, or at cellar for many years before attempting to drink it again.

klewis, Nov 08, 2008
Photo of samie85
2.42/5  rDev -35.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

2007 Vintage.

A-Pours a slightly red hued medium brown color with a quarter finger of white head that quickly dissipates.

S-Smells of huge, sweet alcohol with some dark fruit notes.

T-Almost sickly sweet and boozy with dark fruit and very light bitterness with alcohol on the finish.

M-Syrupy and sticky feel with very low carbonation and a pretty full body.

D-This one is so sweet and almost hard to get down. Almost medicinal in its taste , its not nearly as palatable as its sibling: the regular Samichlaus.

samie85, Aug 27, 2011
Photo of bashiba
2.45/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured a light golden orange color with just a hint of a ring of head, with some light carbonation running through the beer.

Had a mild but sweet nose with a medicinal an herbal overtone.

Flavor is super sweet with a big alcohol flavor and is hit with a heavy dose of herbal hops, a little bit of fruitiness is evident, but is buried by the big alcohol and medicinal like sweetness.

Mouthfeel is ultra slick and oily with a lot of heat.

The super sweetness makes this one a tough drink.

bashiba, May 26, 2008
Photo of corby112
2.48/5  rDev -33.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Serving type: bottle.

Pours a pinkish blush color with miniscule white head that dissapears very quickly. Sweet aroma of alcohol, cherry and candi sugar. Very sweet tasting with cherry, grape, sugar cane notes and a very strong alcohol presence. This beer is not very flavorful and the strong alochol warmth makes it not very quaffable.

corby112, Nov 28, 2008
Photo of Gonzoillini
2.5/5  rDev -33.3%

Gonzoillini, Feb 02, 2014
Photo of brokenleadedcask
2.58/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

My girlfriend went to San Fran and this is one of the beers she purchased for me at City Beer. Best girlfriend ever!

Unfortunately, this beer wasn't what I was expecting. It poured a golden orange with a fizzy soda pop head that disappeared and I couldn't make it return, no matter how much swirling. I have to say, the smell was the best part. Honey, Euro hops, clove and alcohol ( it IS 14%). This beer is on fire, plenty of alcohol in the taste. Some honey and bread are all that were left. Thin and astringent in the mouth. I found it odd that a beer this strong could be watery. Some lingering cloying sweetness and fire in the belly. 14% but not a lot of depth. This one is "one and done". I would sample again, if offered, but it would have to be aged for 5-10 years.

brokenleadedcask, Jul 15, 2009
Photo of ThreeWiseMen
2.65/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Pours a golden syrup with no head or carbonation to speak of.

Smell: Licorice, honey, and alcohol.

Taste: Licorice, honey, sugar, and malt. The alcohol is masked, however the sweetness is overbearing. I split this with my fellow wiseman, which worked well since neither one of us would want to drink an entire bottle.

Mouthfeel: Thick and syrupy. Tremendous warming effect.

Drinkability: Would take either one of us a long while to finish an entire bottle. We split it which worked out ok, but neither one of us wanted another. Sweetness is sickening at times, and alcohol is extremely high. This was more of a novelty than anything.

ThreeWiseMen, Aug 25, 2008
Photo of DNA
2.65/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Poured from 11.2 oz bottle into a snifter. Quarter inch head that lasts only seconds. Very clear beer with a light copper/amber color. Aroma is a very sweet baked pineapple. No hop character in nose. This beer smells like a dessert and should probably be served as a dessert beer. The taste is overwhelmingly sweet and one dimensional. Whatever hops were used in this beer are long gone, leaving only a lingering bitterness that can't compete with the residual sugars. Even the high alcohol content can't cut through the cloying sweetness. The mouthfeel is more thick and chewy than expected even for such a high gravity beer...more like a liqueur. As far as drinkability goes, I can barely get through one bottle. Better to split a bottle with friends (or uninvited guests) in sherry glasses. Good luck!

DNA, Jan 30, 2010
Photo of Gmann
2.73/5  rDev -27.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

From a 750ml swing top bottle. Pours a clear pale amber color with minimal head/lacing/cap. The aroma is somewhat faint, notes of juicy fruit and white wine. The taste is sugary sweet, some honey and a bit of berry fruit but really just a sugary alcohol bomb. The feel is light and quite fizzy, very slick and sticky, finishes very sweet and suprisingly astringent. The drinkability is very limited with this one. If you are looking for an after dinner brew, maybe 6oz this might be a fine selection but other than that this is almost undrinkable. Very sweet and the alcohol is not hidden, no malt or hops to help mask the booze. Not all that good. Not sure how dopplebock was decided upon, maybe the first uber imperial helles lager??

Gmann, Apr 20, 2008
Photo of Tyrolaspenleaf
2.75/5  rDev -26.7%

Tyrolaspenleaf, Oct 15, 2013
Photo of KnowYourCraft
2.75/5  rDev -26.7%

KnowYourCraft, Aug 10, 2014
Photo of kingcrowing
2.78/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2oz Bottled in 2007, poured in a snifter.

Very sweet, slightly alcoholic aroma, no hops, little malt. Small head dissipated very quickly. light carbonation.

Very sweet and somewhat hot. It as a quite full mouthfeel similar to a very sweet red wine, almost syrupy. It gives a good warming feeling.

Overall I'd say that for a beer brewed 3 years ago this is still very young, if you've got a cellar going toss this down there for a few more years and give it another go. I wouldn't drink this fresh again.

kingcrowing, Jun 30, 2009
Photo of BeerSingh
2.78/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

A : Golden caramel coloured with no lacing, no head. Still life.

S : Toffee and boozey. Reminded me of a candy called Poppins.

T : Overwhelming alcoholic and toffee / candy / cognac mixture. Cutting and dominating. For this level of alcohol, the taste should have been subtle, but it was overly sweet.

M : Syrupy and quite cutting due to the carbonation

D : I guess i should have cellared it first, could finish with great difficulty

BeerSingh, Nov 04, 2009
Photo of jayfarley3
2.78/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottle states it was bottled in 2007 and states it as "The World's most Extraordinary Beer" so I had to buy it! Pours a real dark brown amber color with a small tan head. Smells very sweet and strongly of alcohol but I guess that should be expected with a 14% abv. Taste is very very sweet almost syrup like with a touch of roasted malts in there. Maybe if it was aged a few years longer it would be better but I think I'll pass on this in the future.

jayfarley3, Oct 14, 2009
Photo of sevopie
2.78/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Appearance - Reddish-golden color with a quickly dissipating white head.

Smell - This smells heavily of bitter maltiness, like a pilsner. Has a hint of sweet/spice note on it.

Taste - Tastes like a watered down version of the regular Samichlaus with the bitter slightly more prevalent. Heavy on the alcohol tone with a sugary sweet maltiness and a heavy bitter with a slight spice tone.

Mouthfeel - Fairly light with a lot of carbonation, unfortunately the carbonation enhances the alcohol tone.

Drinkability - I am wondering how easily I am going to finish this one. Not nearly as easy to drink as the regular Samichlaus, and the bitterness doesn't really sit very well. I'm glad I found it to try it, but I will stick to the regular one.

sevopie, Aug 15, 2008
Photo of roblowther
2.83/5  rDev -24.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Helles or doppelbock? I'm confused but I'm ok with that. Pours golden amber, clear and bubbly, with a head that quickly settles into a thin off-white covering. Smells like candied oranges, caramel, and a slight nuttiness. It smells good but like it may be too sweet. Let's find out. WOW! That is sweet. This could probably give diabetics a contact high. There is a woodiness, and then sweet. A hint of pepper, then just sugar syrup. Mouthfeel is syrupy with nice carbonation. Drinkability is just going to depend on you. Do you like your pancakes to be nothing but large sediment in a vat of light corn syrup? Then you're good. For me, not so much. It's like Jane Austen's "Persuasion". You want to experience all the legend has to offer, and now you have so you don't have to drink, er read, it again.

roblowther, Dec 26, 2010
Photo of cjgator3
2.88/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle poured into a chalice. Pours a golden orange color with a very thin white head that quickly disappears. The aroma features some malt, a touch of caramel and a good whiff of alcohol. The taste to no surprise starts out smooth and malty and finishes with a warming alcohol punch. I am not a huge fan of this offering, it is just not my thing.

cjgator3, Feb 23, 2008
Photo of zeff80
2.88/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with little to no head. No lacing either.

S - It smelled of sweet honey, caramel and sugar with a boozy nose, too.

T - Very, very sweet. Over the top sweet with boozy taste.

M - One of the better qualities of this brew. It was crisp and sharp. A medium-bodied beer.

D - To me this beer is just over done. Too much alcohol, too much sweetness without any hop character.

zeff80, Aug 03, 2009
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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
85 out of 100 based on 336 ratings.