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Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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85
very good

321 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 321
Reviews: 212
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 15.73%
Wants: 17
Gots: 45 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007)
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Jmamay22

New York

2.93/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

2007 vintage.

This big lager pours a clear orange tinted blonde with little head and only an egg shell colored collar. Smells of apple, raisin, and spiced alcohol. Enjoyable, yet simple scent.

Tastes sweet, fruity and shows less of its alcohol than anticipated. A little too sickly sweet for my tastes. Syrupy mouthfeel. A very slow sipper. The alcohol isn't as difficult as the sweetness and really holds back the drinkability of this beer. Exciting concept that fails with me in practice

Serving type: bottle

01-03-2009 01:44:44 | More by Jmamay22
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coalcracker

Pennsylvania

2.98/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Bottled in 2007. Pours a slightly cloudy golden color with carbonation quickly settling down.
Smell: Aroma is sweet with notes of dark fruits (eg raisin, currant, a little black licorice).
Taste: Very sweet at the onset with those dark fruits building mid-taste. Very sweet indeed, almost cloying. A mild alcohol warmth presents at the end, but overall is fairly well-hidden despite a 14% abv.
Mouthfeel: Fairly thick and chewy mouthfeel- as a doppelbock should be.
Drinkability: A sipper at 14%. Between this and its sweetness, a fast consumption would be foolhardy.

Overall: A bit too sweet for me. OK brew. Able to finish the bottle, but will not be thirsting for another anytime soon.

Serving type: bottle

05-09-2010 00:01:20 | More by coalcracker
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avisong

Virginia

3/5  rDev -20%

09-04-2013 02:18:20 | More by avisong
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cornucopia

Puerto Rico

3/5  rDev -20%

04-15-2012 03:05:36 | More by cornucopia
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josemm1790

Dominican Republic

3/5  rDev -20%

08-13-2013 03:14:55 | More by josemm1790
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ygtbsm94

Virginia

3/5  rDev -20%

01-29-2012 02:39:56 | More by ygtbsm94
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RoyFokker

California

3/5  rDev -20%

06-22-2014 04:36:51 | More by RoyFokker
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tobelerone

Connecticut

3/5  rDev -20%

05-28-2013 01:54:38 | More by tobelerone
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tatoodkelt

Maryland

3/5  rDev -20%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Consumed 2/15/2010- from notes.

11.2oz brown bottle as pictured poured into a shaker glass. 2007 vintage.

I would not have known this was a doppelbock til I looked here.

A- Very vibrant, clear copper topped off with a one finger, tight bubbled, white head that faded pretty quick to a patchy skim. Random carbination bubbles make there way up very slowly.

S- Some maltiness but mostly candy sweet.

T- Big malt flavor up front, very much like a scotch ale at first with a little earthy smokiness. As the malt fades its replaced by a sweet boozy flavor that dominates the flavor. Also seems to pick up a little almost metallic taste.

M- Medium bodied, a little sticky and very mild carbination.

D- I loved the initial malt flavor but couldnt take what it changed into. Definitely wouldnt have more than one in a sitting, I barely made it through this one.

Serving type: bottle

02-17-2010 15:13:24 | More by tatoodkelt
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Raziel313

California

3/5  rDev -20%

02-17-2014 08:12:07 | More by Raziel313
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Codytucker13

New York

3/5  rDev -20%

01-06-2012 03:26:12 | More by Codytucker13
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jmathis

Florida

3/5  rDev -20%

12-27-2012 21:09:08 | More by jmathis
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Lynn

Ohio

3/5  rDev -20%

12-17-2012 23:20:06 | More by Lynn
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ajfrantz

North Carolina

3/5  rDev -20%

12-20-2011 02:22:02 | More by ajfrantz
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sneezye

Oklahoma

3/5  rDev -20%

12-06-2013 04:57:22 | More by sneezye
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Gravelost


3/5  rDev -20%

01-02-2013 03:54:13 | More by Gravelost
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BeerSox

Virginia

3.03/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle into pilsner glass.

Clear straw hue with a thin white head that slowly settles to a rim along the glass.

Grainy aroma with a good amount of alcohol in there.

Grainy flavors with a slight candy like flavor, similar to an Eisbock. Mild hop flavor. The alcohol is perceived well. Full bodied with medium carbonation. The sweet grains linger in the flavor.

The drinkability of this beer is pretty low. All alcohol and no flavor. I can detect the "Munich Helles" behind it, but it's not as subtle as I would like.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2008 03:03:14 | More by BeerSox
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Knapp85

Pennsylvania

3.03/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This has a pretty surprising color for a Doppelbock, This beer has a very nice honey golden color with a head that fades rather quickley. The 14% abv is hardly hidden in my opinion. It's a strong tasting beer, as it should be I just don't know how much I enjoy the flavors the Helles gives off. The mouthfeel of this is on the thicker side. Nothing too heavy but not watery either. Personally i like the darker version much better but thats in the eye of the beholder.

Serving type: bottle

03-30-2011 22:51:06 | More by Knapp85
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mdfb79

New York

3.08/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass. Bottled in 2007.

a - Pours a murky orangish/amber color with low carbonation and about a half inch of white head that quickly leaves.

s - Smells of sweet, dark fruits including plums, raisins, and maybe cherries. Also some oak, malts, and booze, although not as much as I was expecting considering it is 14% ABV.

t - Dark fruits, booze, malts, some spices, and maybe a tiny bit of chocolate even. The alcohol was a lot more prominent in the taste than it was in the nose.

m - Medium body with low carbonation. Some alcohol warmth, but not as much as you'd think considering it's 14% ABV.

d - Middle of the road for me. I enojoyed the smell more than the taste, as the alcohol came out a little too much in the taste and feel to me. I have one bottle left that is in my cellar that I plan on holding onto for a few years to see what happens, but right now I wouldn't look to drink it again.

Serving type: bottle

03-22-2010 23:59:37 | More by mdfb79
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Floydster

California

3.13/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

11.2 ounce bottle purchased from Stuffed Sandwich for around seven dollars, 2008 vintage, split with my dad last night, poured into my Duvel tulip glass

A-Golden orangish amber color with some golden yellow highlights, one inch foamy white head, decent retention, some lacing
S-Alcohol, honey, sweetness, lots of citrus, caramel, good amount of malt, toasted bread
T-Starts off hot with a lot of booze, sweet malts and other fruit in the middle, slightly toasted in the finish but still a big boozy flavor, this becomes so damn sweet that I can barely get it down towards the end, honey comes out later and adds to the sweetness and booze
M-Hot, sweet, and slightly toasted mouthfeel, medium to full bodied, carbonation is on the softer side which surprised me after seeing the head, taste lingers too long
D-Should have shared this with one or two more people, alcohol is not hidden at all and really affects its drinkability, overly sweet all the way through, very filling and reminds me a little of cough syrup at various times

Not my favorite dopplebock and quite light in color for the style, originally thought this was a hopped up version of a Helles Lager and I seemed to be wrong after the very first sip I took, not in a hurry to drink this again, a little too strong in my opinion, worth trying

Serving type: bottle

04-04-2009 16:26:58 | More by Floydster
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

3.13/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

"The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage."

--label

Bottled in 2007 (the first since 1986). Radiant tangerine with barely one finger of ivory colored cream created on the high-altitude pour. Guess we can blame the high ABV and the lack of hop resins for the diminutive crown... that is now nearly gone. Needless to day, no lace is seen on the snifter.

The nose makes almost no impact. At least not of a positive nature. Each sniff delivers very lightly toasted pale grains with a surprisingly subtle contribution from ethanol. Not sure what the flavor hook is going to be.

Samichlaus Helles tastes like a higher-quality malt liquor. In fact, is says 'malt liquor' right there on the label. Yeah, probably just some government regulation or some such. It's definitely sweet and the alcohol is buried better than expected.

As feared, there isn't much here to get excited about from a flavor standpoint. Tons of dark malts (big stouts) and tons of hops (IPAs) are right in my wheelhouse, but tons of pale malt has never really done it for me. Specifics include rock candy, lightly toasted bread soaked in sugar syrup, and a splash of honey (mead-like). Simple as a stone.

The mouthfeel finds that sweet-spot between big enough and not too big. It's fullish and lush without being ponderous, and the bubbles are finely spritzy... which works because they're softened by all the malt sugars.

Samichlaus Helles, in my humble opinion, is light years away from being the world's most extraordinary beverage. It's a decent sipper if you're into high-octane beer, but that's where it ends. I'm okay if Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg wants to wait another 21 years between bottlings.

Serving type: bottle

01-31-2011 14:09:54 | More by BuckeyeNation
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Rayek

Colorado

3.18/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From a 2007 vintage bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Garnet tinged amber with a big, yet short lived eggshell cap. The head recedes to a ring at the beer's edge and leaves no lace.

S: Sweet and boozy. Brown sugar, caramel and toffee do most of the aroma work. A hefty dose of alcohol provides balance to the sweet and a powerful tingle to the nostrils.

T: Extremely sweet out of the gate. Brown sugar and toffee dominate. Bitterness is minimal and has just a bit of pepper to it. Alcohol adds a ton of heat and helps balance the sweet flavors. The brown sugar lingers through the finish. The beer ends very hot.

M: The medium-heavy body is super syrupy and has light carbonation.

D: Um....yeah. This beer is too over the top for its own good. The extreme alcohol heat and cloying sweetness make this beer a night cap at best.

Serving type: bottle

12-23-2010 04:33:40 | More by Rayek
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searsclone

Arizona

3.18/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: poured from a bottle into a snifter. No head on this beer whatsoever, very few bubbles in the golden colored liquid

S: some friut in the aroma, and sweet alcohol

T: sweet, maybe mable and brown sugar, and earthy with a flash of alcohol right before swallowing

M: very syrupy, surprisingly fizzy considering the appearance

D: for a high alcohol beer, I find it to be very drinkable

Serving type: bottle

06-17-2008 01:42:16 | More by searsclone
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bonkers

New Jersey

3.2/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I poured from a 11.2 ounce bottle, 2009, into a snifter. The color is medium caramel with a fizzy 1 inch white head, no lacing. The aroma is sweet with lots of astringent alcohol. This beer is very sweet and has very hot alcohol, kinda out of balance. It finishes with dates and raisins. The body is medium and the carbonation is good. IMO this is a mess, too much alcohol, very overpowering. Maybe lay it down for a year, but I will not buy it again.

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2011 00:08:42 | More by bonkers
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ChainGangGuy

Georgia

3.2/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, honey-colored body with a tiny white head.

Smell: Sweetish, candylike aroma with notes of peach schnapps, sugar-coated matls, and booze.

Taste: Sugary sweet malts with a taste of dark fruits soaked in alcohol. The beer gives you a sly wink then pours some grain alcohol down your gullet. Slight peppery hint. Sweetness of the finish doesn't disguise its harshness.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Slight stickiness.

Drinkability: Many of these high ABV beers are a joy to drink and deftly hide their alchol amidst a truly succulent taste. The Samichlaus Helles is neither of those! As with its darker brother, hopefully some time locked away will bring some sense to it.

Serving type: bottle

03-22-2008 16:54:26 | More by ChainGangGuy
Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
85 out of 100 based on 321 ratings.