Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Reviews: 222
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rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 12.06%
Wants: 21
Gots: 54 | FT: 0
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Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.94/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share held at Chloe's inside Golden Road Brewing in Los Angeles, CA.

2007 vintage.

Pours a hazy orange with a foamy tan head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Tiny chunks of sediment are seen floating around in the beer after the pour. Smell is of malt, caramel, toffee, fruit, and alcohol aromas. Taste is much the same with fruit and toffee flavors on the finish. There is a decent alcohol kick with each sip as well. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but sticky mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is super tasty but quite boozy and strong. (692 characters)

Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottling

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a modest cap that leaves a web of lace

Smell: Caramel and rum-soaked figs; rather boozy aroma

Taste: Caramel and fig, with a building alcohol flavor developing by mid-palate; sweet and fruity in the finish

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied with low to moderate carbonation; plenty of warmth in the gullet

Overall: Really rather sweet but I enjoyed the flavor profile (417 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.85/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A subtle twist on the standard Samichlaus with a lighter color, and more finess in the malts, but with a lot of fruity character comming throughout. A standard pilsner-straw color comes through with light carbonation and with only a trace of head formation and retention. Aromas are strong of pilsner malt, honey, and zinfindale. No real sulfers or corn flavors, so pretty clean upfront, just a lot more estery than expected from a lager. Flavors jump on the peach, pear, mango, appricot, papaya flavors and wonder into a mead-like / zinfindale acidity and alcohols. An herbal hop flavor is noticed in the aftertaste and provides low-lying bitterness. Very syrupy and viscously textured while warming the mouth into numbness. Light on fusals. Finishes with a long, sweet linger of fruitiness, sugars, and herbal tea. (816 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
3.1/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This has a pretty surprising color for a Doppelbock, This beer has a very nice honey golden color with a head that fades rather quickley. The 14% abv is hardly hidden in my opinion. It's a strong tasting beer, as it should be I just don't know how much I enjoy the flavors the Helles gives off. The mouthfeel of this is on the thicker side. Nothing too heavy but not watery either. Personally i like the darker version much better but thats in the eye of the beholder. (468 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.13/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

"The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage."

--label

Bottled in 2007 (the first since 1986). Radiant tangerine with barely one finger of ivory colored cream created on the high-altitude pour. Guess we can blame the high ABV and the lack of hop resins for the diminutive crown... that is now nearly gone. Needless to day, no lace is seen on the snifter.

The nose makes almost no impact. At least not of a positive nature. Each sniff delivers very lightly toasted pale grains with a surprisingly subtle contribution from ethanol. Not sure what the flavor hook is going to be.

Samichlaus Helles tastes like a higher-quality malt liquor. In fact, is says 'malt liquor' right there on the label. Yeah, probably just some government regulation or some such. It's definitely sweet and the alcohol is buried better than expected.

As feared, there isn't much here to get excited about from a flavor standpoint. Tons of dark malts (big stouts) and tons of hops (IPAs) are right in my wheelhouse, but tons of pale malt has never really done it for me. Specifics include rock candy, lightly toasted bread soaked in sugar syrup, and a splash of honey (mead-like). Simple as a stone.

The mouthfeel finds that sweet-spot between big enough and not too big. It's fullish and lush without being ponderous, and the bubbles are finely spritzy... which works because they're softened by all the malt sugars.

Samichlaus Helles, in my humble opinion, is light years away from being the world's most extraordinary beverage. It's a decent sipper if you're into high-octane beer, but that's where it ends. I'm okay if Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg wants to wait another 21 years between bottlings. (1,674 characters)

Photo of mikesgroove
3.88/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle poured into a snifter

Ok so I saw this one on the shelf and was a little curious. At first I by passed it as it looked the same as a regular but then noticed it was a special edition so I had to pick one up. It poured a nice pale golden yellow with a smallish head that faded quickly. The aroma was full of malt and grass like smells with a touch of alcohol, but that is to be expected. The flavor was much sweeter then I thought it would be with a nice rounded caramel tone a good amount of brandy like alcohol thrown in. Some bready and cereal like malt base making up the rest with a sweet sugary finish that was sprikled with a touch of floralness. Overall this was a good bit different then the normal, seemed to be a bit sweeter, defintly lighter looking and a touch hotter with the alcohol. Very intresting find and will have to go back to the store and grab a couple more. (897 characters)

Photo of zeff80
2.92/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with little to no head. No lacing either.

S - It smelled of sweet honey, caramel and sugar with a boozy nose, too.

T - Very, very sweet. Over the top sweet with boozy taste.

M - One of the better qualities of this brew. It was crisp and sharp. A medium-bodied beer.

D - To me this beer is just over done. Too much alcohol, too much sweetness without any hop character. (416 characters)

Photo of oberon
3.63/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this as a night cap last night and man did it help me sleep easy.Poured into a pokal a full rich clear golden with a minimal head wich was to be expected,whoo the sweet alcohol really hits in the nose with some caramel and grain but the alcohol shows itself in a huge way.A full bodied sweeter sipping brew,it has a big caramel and fruit flavor with sweet burning alcohol showing thru more as it warmed,in the finish a passing vegetal note comes thru.A decent brew but its made to be drank slow and easy. (508 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.21/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, honey-colored body with a tiny white head.

Smell: Sweetish, candylike aroma with notes of peach schnapps, sugar-coated matls, and booze.

Taste: Sugary sweet malts with a taste of dark fruits soaked in alcohol. The beer gives you a sly wink then pours some grain alcohol down your gullet. Slight peppery hint. Sweetness of the finish doesn't disguise its harshness.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Slight stickiness.

Drinkability: Many of these high ABV beers are a joy to drink and deftly hide their alchol amidst a truly succulent taste. The Samichlaus Helles is neither of those! As with its darker brother, hopefully some time locked away will bring some sense to it. (715 characters)

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.35/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Even a rough pour will bring up only a diminutive head on Samiclaus Helles. That's understandable in that it's 14% alcohol, but surely the extra body should make up for it. Not the case. It's amber body appears deeper, almost copperish, in the glass, but when held to the light it reveals sparkling golden highlights. A fair amount of very tiny bubbles climb steadily upward, indicating that there's a fair amount of carbonation to it; and what delicate cottony head was initially formed benefits from it. Alas, it fades quickly, and beyond that only tiny spots of lacing are left about the glass.

The aroma is clean and malty. It's mainly grainy, but there's also a hint of fruitiness in its sweetness.

In the mouth it's full bodied, but not over-done, and silky smooth - far from syrupy... of course, the alcohol is helping to cut the sugars as well. The delicate carbonation is just enough to lend a gentle caress to the palate.

The flavor is, not surprisingly, very rich. Also, probably not surprisingly, it's not really that complex. This is the blonde version, so of course it's going to be more straightforward in character. It offers a healthy dose of grainy malt, a flicker of hot alcohol (but not too much), and a moderately fruity sweetness in the finish. There are some hops present as well, but they can't compete with the (almost candyish) sweetish malt up-front, and tend to make themselves known only across the middle and into the finish. They're herbal, and mildly spicy (or is that the alcohol that's spicy?).

Overall, it's remarkably well done. The alcohol is kept in check, and it's balanced. The flavor is rich and satiating, but not cloying. (This is truly "liquid bread"). The appearance is great, but the head could be much better; and the aroma is right on. Worth trying! I could even see using this as a cordial at a Christmas dinner. Very nice. (1,877 characters)

Photo of russpowell
4.16/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I sat on this one a few months to cellar, but now I can't wait any more! Here goes:

Pours a noisy & effervescent golden honey with 2 fingers of beige head. No head & a bit of lacing

S: Fruitty & bready & clean booze & fussell alcohol, slight smokeyness

T: Some honey, dates, apricot & nice breadyness up front. More honey, grainyness, pineapple & passion fruit all show as this warms. Finishes with loads of honey, tropical fruit,& booze

MF: Chewy with vigirous carbonation, a little too much, some syruppy notes, great warming sensations, reminds me of a young mead in many respects

Drinkability is fantastic for the ABV & pretty good for the style, nice digestive/nightcap dopple, not one to trifle with or to attempt to session on! Next time I see it I will buy more & hide them from myself & see how the aging improves or doesn't this fine dopple (857 characters)

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.25/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I didn't even know this existed, until I saw someone order it at the bar I'm marooned at while the rain pours down. So, here I go, a drinkin'...

Clear amber color, smallish white head, stick around a bit...

Aroma: clean and lightly fruity, peach and apple, apricot and herbs...

Drink it already!....Boom! Big fat malt, huge fruity flavor, little hops, nothing but enormous malt and alcohol. Slick, sweet, clean. Yum. Light bodied, lean, sweet, malty lager....way over-sized booze. Incredible, formidable, intense. Burning fruit roasts the palate, clean and mean, ...yum, and hot! yum, and fierce! yum, and POW!

Mmmm, all 14 % blonde doppelbocks should be this good! (669 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
3.1/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass. Bottled in 2007.

a - Pours a murky orangish/amber color with low carbonation and about a half inch of white head that quickly leaves.

s - Smells of sweet, dark fruits including plums, raisins, and maybe cherries. Also some oak, malts, and booze, although not as much as I was expecting considering it is 14% ABV.

t - Dark fruits, booze, malts, some spices, and maybe a tiny bit of chocolate even. The alcohol was a lot more prominent in the taste than it was in the nose.

m - Medium body with low carbonation. Some alcohol warmth, but not as much as you'd think considering it's 14% ABV.

d - Middle of the road for me. I enojoyed the smell more than the taste, as the alcohol came out a little too much in the taste and feel to me. I have one bottle left that is in my cellar that I plan on holding onto for a few years to see what happens, but right now I wouldn't look to drink it again. (942 characters)

Photo of drabmuh
3.88/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received through a trade with ironbike1. Bottled in 2007. Poured from a bottle into a Samichlaus Bier glass (I'm a glassware bad ass, don't you love the correct glass?). Beer is light amber in color, head forms quickly and disappears just as quickly, leaving nothing behind. No head, no lacing, nothing. Carbonation is mild to weak, this is expected though. Bubbles form around the lower bowl of the glass, beer is clear, completely clear.

Aroma is a little off putting unfortunately. Initially there was a sulfur flavor to it. This is quickly replaced with some alcohol / sweetness and some malt character. The aroma overall is not strong. Time to drink.

Sweet, strong. Wow, this beer actually made me cough when I sipped it. Probably not a good sign. Second taste was considerably better. Much more pronounced sweetness, some raisin like character, great malt body. Mouthfeel is good, not thin at all like you might expect with a 14% beer. Not dry like you might expect with a 14% beer. Just a great full body and high drinkability. This beer seems lighter than the other Samichlaus doppelbock I've previously reviewed and am currently aging. A great rarity for me.

I imagine this beer would age well, removed the warmth from the front end and mellow out the solvency of the flavors. This is a relatively young for a Sami. (1,327 characters)

Photo of jwc215
3.43/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2007 vintage:

Pours golden with a thin head that becomes a patch - decent head retention for the abv.

The smell is of sweet grain, alcohol and some fruitiness.

The taste is of sweet grain - Helles-style, boozy alcohol, grapey and some caramel. Finishes sweet.

Syrupy, though not too sticky.

A slow, slow sipper. A bit raw, maybe aging would mellow the sharpness of it. Interesting to a degree, though not in a complex way. I didn't enjoy this as much as the other Samichlaus. (480 characters)

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into signature tulip glass, bottled in 2012. Pours fairly crystal clear golden orange color with a 1 finger fairly dense off white head with solid retention, that reduces to a ring of lace. Minimal lacing on the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop notes; with great strength. Taste big of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, light pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Slight earthy bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity and robustness of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light carbonation and fairly full bodied; with a smooth and fairly slick/syrupy mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small-moderate warming after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Helles doppelbock style. All around great complexity and balance of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; and very smooth to sip on slowly for the huge ABV. A very enjoyable offering. (1,546 characters)

Photo of GClarkage
4.33/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

10/23/08- Purchased at Ledger's in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 11.2oz bottle, bottled in 2007. Poured into my Trois Pistoles goblet.

Appearance- Lighter copper in color. Pours with a 3/4 inch light foamy head on a hard pour, which soon fades to a very slight rim. Leaves light spotty lace.

Smell- Kinda has a good smell and an odd smell at the same time. Not really outgoing with sugary caramel notes and a wet dog fur nose.

Taste- Very rich and caramely. No real hops involved, but lots and lots of smooth roasted caramel malts. Maybe a slash of orange liquor like flavor as well. Drambuie?

Mouthfeel- Very smooth with a medium to slight lower carbonation level. Warming with a full mouthfeel.

Drinkability- Alcohol is nicely hidden in this one. Really hard to keep from chugging this rather than sipping. Super easy to drink. Will have again in the future. $4.99 price tag. (881 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.48/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

2007 Bottle Date; Sampled August 2008
A vigorous pour yields a fat, one-finger thick, pale tan colored head. The beer is quite clear with an amber hue, but shows a brilliantly clear, rich gold color when held up to the light. Quite sweet and concentrated smelling with complex, rich, though obviously pale, malt aromas that just seeps from the pores of this beer. Concentrated golden raisin notes (without being fruity though), some notes that are similar to an ice-wine, almost a toffee not but cleaner somehow, something that is a touch metallic or perhaps calcium like and some rich, slightly grassy, toasty, pale grain notes. At this point the aroma is a touch simplistic, though certainly not bad; like the regular version this really seems to need a couple years to come in to its own.

Thick and somewhat creamy feeling up front, a persistent carbonation that, while light, adds a touch of fizziness to the middle of each sip is also noticeable. That distinct, concentrated golden raisin, without being fruity note is also here in the flavor and plays a significant role. Quite sweet tasting, it could actually use some richness, though this last will likely come with a couple years of age. A touch of herbal hoppiness in the finish is noticeable, though it is quite muted compared to the malt and there is only a perceived, light hop bitterness in this finish. Some hot alcohol notes provide a bit of spiciness and a touch of warming; this last lingers as the beer slides down my throat and even warms its way down through to my belly. While rich and certainly a sipping brew this is actually not as cloying as I thought it would be.

Like the regular Samichlaus, this is definitely a bit green / hot when young. This should age quite well, and really won't be drinkable for at least two or three years if not five.

Purchased: Plaza Liquors, Tucson AZ (1,861 characters)

Photo of Gavage
3.89/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: clear orange in color with a 1/2" head that falls to a spotty surface foam. A few carbonatin bubbles slowly rise fro the bottom of the glass.

Smell: sweet fruits and honey are easily detectable. Alcohol is mildly noticeable.

Taste: big malt base with caramel, honey, green grapes, and pears provide the sweetness and there is a mild bitterness that tries to balance it out. Alcohol is strong and imparts a strong warming feeling.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Syrupy and smooth throughout. Super long aftertaste as the sweetness and alcohol seem to last for minutes after swallowing.

Drinkability: a malty high alcohol beer that is a very slow sipper. One is enough in any session. (700 characters)

Photo of Halcyondays
3.89/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2 oz. bottle, 2007 version,

A: Pours a burnt orange, with a small white head, pretty colour.

S: Strong smell, which I expect with the high alcohol content and volatiles - ripe fruit, orange, melon, brown sugar and ethanol in spades.

T: Get a lot of orange and some tropical fruits. Very sweet, mixed with a bit of ethanol, but it melds well with the other flavours, definitely in balance with the residual sugar. Tasty stuff.

M: Silky smooth, you can definitely feel the ethanol as it goes down, high viscosity, high final gravity.

D: The lighter cousin of Samichlaus, definitely a good beer, even if I prefer the darker version. In my opinion, definitely recommended. (676 characters)

Photo of DoubleJ
4.06/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

It's hard to beleive that the last year this beer was available, I was in diapers. Distinctive red labeling allows this beer to stand out on shelves better, and one I've been wanting to try after enjoying its darker sibling. On to the beer:

The body is deep filtered gold, topped by a short head that goes away quickly. There's some pale malt and lightly perceived alcohol in the nose, surprisingly light on the nose given its strength. It also tasted lighter than expected too, but wow, 14% ABV has never been so easy to drink! Sugary sweet with intense vanilla, doses of pale malts, and alcohol. Not as complex as one might hope, but the brewers did an excellent job mixing the alcohol into the overal flavor. Mouthfeel is smooth and moderate, "lightly syurpy", and not over the top.

While it isn't as interesting as the darker stuff, this bright beer is a lethal alcohol delivery system thanks to its incredible drinkability. Treat this bottle with respect and enjoy! (973 characters)

Photo of tempest
2.95/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Bottled 2007

Looks a clear gold, without much head retention. The aroma is of white grape and sweet, bready malt. The flavor and mouthfeel is rough to say the least. There's a strong, dry alcohol flavor, in line with watered-down vodka. The malt just comes off like a very concentrated light lager with caramel malt ad a touch of grassy hops. It's not all-out offensive, but I won't be finishing this one. I'll return to this one after I let a bottle mellow for a year or two. (477 characters)

Photo of Georgiabeer
3.97/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours golden with very little head. What head there is fades to nothing very quickly. Very malty aroma, quite honeyed and bready. Quite sweet with some definite heat and some lingering spicy bitterness on the finish. Up front it is quite smooth abd honeyed, a bit like nougat. Very smooth, but a bit hot in the mouth. This is fairly pleasant, but I find it a bit more one dimensional than the regular Samichlaus. (412 characters)

Photo of corby112
2.46/5  rDev -34%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Serving type: bottle.

Pours a pinkish blush color with miniscule white head that dissapears very quickly. Sweet aroma of alcohol, cherry and candi sugar. Very sweet tasting with cherry, grape, sugar cane notes and a very strong alcohol presence. This beer is not very flavorful and the strong alochol warmth makes it not very quaffable. (338 characters)

Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.6/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I've had the dark Samichlaus sitting at home in Sydney for a while, but it is yet to be reviewed. I would have liked to have tried it first, but I picked up the Helles in San Francisco and it didn't make the cut to come back in my luggage.

Hence, I'll drink it now.

Pours a hot and still devilish orange colour, with bubbling only because I forced a very aggressive pour. After these fizzle out it sits entirely flat and dormant in the glass. Looks very dangerous.

Nose is malty and sweet, with a twang of chemical acetone and a boozy note like brandy-soaked dried fruit. Smells extremely spiritous, heavy and malevolent. I think this will be a challenge to my bruised palate.

Taste is surprisingly supple and smooth, and doesn't have the spiritous alcohol burn I feared. Instead, it's just incredibly sweet and heavy, with the alcoholic flavour providing the balance in what other styles would be given by hop bitterness. Very port-like, smooth front, big vinous sweetness and a flick of booze in the tail.

Feel is very smooth and coating, but surprisingly slick as well.

Still, this is a beer of which it is difficult to drink more than a very small glass. Even without the potential burn, it's incredibly heavy and potent.

Yes, it's something I'm glad I tried, and I'll look forward to comparing it to the original Samichlaus—but I'm pleased the experience is over. (1,377 characters)

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
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