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Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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85
very good

345 Ratings
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Ratings: 345
Reviews: 217
rAvg: 3.74
pDev: 15.78%
Wants: 18
Gots: 47 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007)
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Photo of mdfb79
3.08/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass. Bottled in 2007.

a - Pours a murky orangish/amber color with low carbonation and about a half inch of white head that quickly leaves.

s - Smells of sweet, dark fruits including plums, raisins, and maybe cherries. Also some oak, malts, and booze, although not as much as I was expecting considering it is 14% ABV.

t - Dark fruits, booze, malts, some spices, and maybe a tiny bit of chocolate even. The alcohol was a lot more prominent in the taste than it was in the nose.

m - Medium body with low carbonation. Some alcohol warmth, but not as much as you'd think considering it's 14% ABV.

d - Middle of the road for me. I enojoyed the smell more than the taste, as the alcohol came out a little too much in the taste and feel to me. I have one bottle left that is in my cellar that I plan on holding onto for a few years to see what happens, but right now I wouldn't look to drink it again.

mdfb79, Mar 22, 2010
Photo of jwc215
3.43/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2007 vintage:

Pours golden with a thin head that becomes a patch - decent head retention for the abv.

The smell is of sweet grain, alcohol and some fruitiness.

The taste is of sweet grain - Helles-style, boozy alcohol, grapey and some caramel. Finishes sweet.

Syrupy, though not too sticky.

A slow, slow sipper. A bit raw, maybe aging would mellow the sharpness of it. Interesting to a degree, though not in a complex way. I didn't enjoy this as much as the other Samichlaus.

jwc215, Apr 08, 2008
Photo of Rochefort10nh
4/5  rDev +7%

Rochefort10nh, Dec 06, 2011
Photo of oriolesfan4
4.25/5  rDev +13.6%

oriolesfan4, May 11, 2014
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.48/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

2007 Bottle Date; Sampled August 2008
A vigorous pour yields a fat, one-finger thick, pale tan colored head. The beer is quite clear with an amber hue, but shows a brilliantly clear, rich gold color when held up to the light. Quite sweet and concentrated smelling with complex, rich, though obviously pale, malt aromas that just seeps from the pores of this beer. Concentrated golden raisin notes (without being fruity though), some notes that are similar to an ice-wine, almost a toffee not but cleaner somehow, something that is a touch metallic or perhaps calcium like and some rich, slightly grassy, toasty, pale grain notes. At this point the aroma is a touch simplistic, though certainly not bad; like the regular version this really seems to need a couple years to come in to its own.

Thick and somewhat creamy feeling up front, a persistent carbonation that, while light, adds a touch of fizziness to the middle of each sip is also noticeable. That distinct, concentrated golden raisin, without being fruity note is also here in the flavor and plays a significant role. Quite sweet tasting, it could actually use some richness, though this last will likely come with a couple years of age. A touch of herbal hoppiness in the finish is noticeable, though it is quite muted compared to the malt and there is only a perceived, light hop bitterness in this finish. Some hot alcohol notes provide a bit of spiciness and a touch of warming; this last lingers as the beer slides down my throat and even warms its way down through to my belly. While rich and certainly a sipping brew this is actually not as cloying as I thought it would be.

Like the regular Samichlaus, this is definitely a bit green / hot when young. This should age quite well, and really won't be drinkable for at least two or three years if not five.

Purchased: Plaza Liquors, Tucson AZ

Gueuzedude, Aug 23, 2008
Photo of GClarkage
4.38/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

10/23/08- Purchased at Ledger's in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 11.2oz bottle, bottled in 2007. Poured into my Trois Pistoles goblet.

Appearance- Lighter copper in color. Pours with a 3/4 inch light foamy head on a hard pour, which soon fades to a very slight rim. Leaves light spotty lace.

Smell- Kinda has a good smell and an odd smell at the same time. Not really outgoing with sugary caramel notes and a wet dog fur nose.

Taste- Very rich and caramely. No real hops involved, but lots and lots of smooth roasted caramel malts. Maybe a slash of orange liquor like flavor as well. Drambuie?

Mouthfeel- Very smooth with a medium to slight lower carbonation level. Warming with a full mouthfeel.

Drinkability- Alcohol is nicely hidden in this one. Really hard to keep from chugging this rather than sipping. Super easy to drink. Will have again in the future. $4.99 price tag.

GClarkage, Oct 24, 2008
Photo of Halcyondays
3.88/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2 oz. bottle, 2007 version,

A: Pours a burnt orange, with a small white head, pretty colour.

S: Strong smell, which I expect with the high alcohol content and volatiles - ripe fruit, orange, melon, brown sugar and ethanol in spades.

T: Get a lot of orange and some tropical fruits. Very sweet, mixed with a bit of ethanol, but it melds well with the other flavours, definitely in balance with the residual sugar. Tasty stuff.

M: Silky smooth, you can definitely feel the ethanol as it goes down, high viscosity, high final gravity.

D: The lighter cousin of Samichlaus, definitely a good beer, even if I prefer the darker version. In my opinion, definitely recommended.

Halcyondays, Sep 15, 2008
Photo of Gavage
3.88/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: clear orange in color with a 1/2" head that falls to a spotty surface foam. A few carbonatin bubbles slowly rise fro the bottom of the glass.

Smell: sweet fruits and honey are easily detectable. Alcohol is mildly noticeable.

Taste: big malt base with caramel, honey, green grapes, and pears provide the sweetness and there is a mild bitterness that tries to balance it out. Alcohol is strong and imparts a strong warming feeling.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Syrupy and smooth throughout. Super long aftertaste as the sweetness and alcohol seem to last for minutes after swallowing.

Drinkability: a malty high alcohol beer that is a very slow sipper. One is enough in any session.

Gavage, Mar 11, 2008
Photo of corby112
2.48/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Serving type: bottle.

Pours a pinkish blush color with miniscule white head that dissapears very quickly. Sweet aroma of alcohol, cherry and candi sugar. Very sweet tasting with cherry, grape, sugar cane notes and a very strong alcohol presence. This beer is not very flavorful and the strong alochol warmth makes it not very quaffable.

corby112, Nov 28, 2008
Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.63/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I've had the dark Samichlaus sitting at home in Sydney for a while, but it is yet to be reviewed. I would have liked to have tried it first, but I picked up the Helles in San Francisco and it didn't make the cut to come back in my luggage.

Hence, I'll drink it now.

Pours a hot and still devilish orange colour, with bubbling only because I forced a very aggressive pour. After these fizzle out it sits entirely flat and dormant in the glass. Looks very dangerous.

Nose is malty and sweet, with a twang of chemical acetone and a boozy note like brandy-soaked dried fruit. Smells extremely spiritous, heavy and malevolent. I think this will be a challenge to my bruised palate.

Taste is surprisingly supple and smooth, and doesn't have the spiritous alcohol burn I feared. Instead, it's just incredibly sweet and heavy, with the alcoholic flavour providing the balance in what other styles would be given by hop bitterness. Very port-like, smooth front, big vinous sweetness and a flick of booze in the tail.

Feel is very smooth and coating, but surprisingly slick as well.

Still, this is a beer of which it is difficult to drink more than a very small glass. Even without the potential burn, it's incredibly heavy and potent.

Yes, it's something I'm glad I tried, and I'll look forward to comparing it to the original Samichlaus—but I'm pleased the experience is over.

lacqueredmouse, May 12, 2011
Photo of tempest
2.93/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Bottled 2007

Looks a clear gold, without much head retention. The aroma is of white grape and sweet, bready malt. The flavor and mouthfeel is rough to say the least. There's a strong, dry alcohol flavor, in line with watered-down vodka. The malt just comes off like a very concentrated light lager with caramel malt ad a touch of grassy hops. It's not all-out offensive, but I won't be finishing this one. I'll return to this one after I let a bottle mellow for a year or two.

tempest, Feb 07, 2008
Photo of Georgiabeer
3.98/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours golden with very little head. What head there is fades to nothing very quickly. Very malty aroma, quite honeyed and bready. Quite sweet with some definite heat and some lingering spicy bitterness on the finish. Up front it is quite smooth abd honeyed, a bit like nougat. Very smooth, but a bit hot in the mouth. This is fairly pleasant, but I find it a bit more one dimensional than the regular Samichlaus.

Georgiabeer, Jun 19, 2008
Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into signature tulip glass, bottled in 2012. Pours fairly crystal clear golden orange color with a 1 finger fairly dense off white head with solid retention, that reduces to a ring of lace. Minimal lacing on the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop notes; with great strength. Taste big of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, light pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Slight earthy bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity and robustness of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light carbonation and fairly full bodied; with a smooth and fairly slick/syrupy mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small-moderate warming after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Helles doppelbock style. All around great complexity and balance of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; and very smooth to sip on slowly for the huge ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

superspak, Nov 08, 2014
Photo of ejimhof
4.25/5  rDev +13.6%

ejimhof, Dec 25, 2012
Photo of Gonzoillini
2.5/5  rDev -33.2%

Gonzoillini, Feb 02, 2014
Photo of DoubleJ
4.13/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

It's hard to beleive that the last year this beer was available, I was in diapers. Distinctive red labeling allows this beer to stand out on shelves better, and one I've been wanting to try after enjoying its darker sibling. On to the beer:

The body is deep filtered gold, topped by a short head that goes away quickly. There's some pale malt and lightly perceived alcohol in the nose, surprisingly light on the nose given its strength. It also tasted lighter than expected too, but wow, 14% ABV has never been so easy to drink! Sugary sweet with intense vanilla, doses of pale malts, and alcohol. Not as complex as one might hope, but the brewers did an excellent job mixing the alcohol into the overal flavor. Mouthfeel is smooth and moderate, "lightly syurpy", and not over the top.

While it isn't as interesting as the darker stuff, this bright beer is a lethal alcohol delivery system thanks to its incredible drinkability. Treat this bottle with respect and enjoy!

DoubleJ, Apr 16, 2008
Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a snifter)
2010 on bottle
A- This beer pours a crystal clear deep orange hue with a bubbly snow white head and a good carbonation of microbubbles

S- The smell of fresh sweet pale malt and wort has a bit of a husky note to it and a yeasty ester finish that smells like pencil lead.

T- The big sweet candy wort has some fruity ester character to follow and a dry finish. There is a hone malt sweetness and a touch of bitterness in the finish that come through as the beer warms.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a very warm alcohol character in the finish.

O- The big sweetness and big alcohol balance into a delicious beer candy with nice fresh wort flavors. As the beer warms a bit too much it gets fusel heat but that is only the last few sips.

rhoadsrage, Jul 14, 2011
Photo of Zorro
3.98/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear and golden colored Bock with but slight head formation, probably the high alcohol content.

Smell is very fruity with lots of esters from the fermentation. Little bit of grain scent, smells like a Rye Whiskey in this respect. Little bit of Nobel hop spice in here as well.

The taste starts out sweet and fruit with just a mild bitterness. VERY fruity aftertaste here. Good amount of grain flavor but this is a fruity bock beer. Hop is doing nothing here except sweetness cleanup.

Mouthfeel is light, got to be the alcohol diluting out the carbohydrates.

Definitely a sipper of a beer, strong Juju Magic here. This is OK but at $8 for the bottle, I will be drinking Firestone Union Jack a lot more than this one.

Zorro, May 10, 2008
Photo of jdhilt
4.25/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a thin layer, white head that fades quickly leaving no lace. Crystal clear amber color. Very light carbonation and medium bodied. Nose is sugar and hints of alcohol, flavor is smooth and sweet, dark fruit, almost cloying. Similar to their classic. NOT a session beer - the 14% ABV is noticeable . . . savor this beer. $5.99 for a 330ml bottle, from Julio's Liquors Westborough, MA. Bottled in 2012.

jdhilt, May 24, 2014
Photo of afsdan
4/5  rDev +7%

afsdan, Jul 23, 2014
Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

11.2 oz. Bottle
Bottled In: 2007

Pours a very nice clean/clear golden color, very nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, sweet, nice little spice note, and caramel. The taste is sweet, malty, alittle spicy, with some nice caramel notes. Medium Body. Very Drinkable, this one is very tasty, a true delight. Thanks Ben.

Wasatch, Feb 26, 2011
Photo of John_M
3.58/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

On tap at Max's the other day.

The beer pours a bright gold color with minimal head retention and lacing. Don't get a lot on tbe nose either, though there is a hint of sweet malt and spice. On the palate this beer is VERY sweet, but with some interesting cherry, honey and vanilla. Coupled with the high alcohol, the sweetness makes this beer a bit cloying and heavy. Drinkability is where this beer really suffers, though I was able to finish the glass given enough time.

An interesting beer, though I'm not sure I'd want to order it again. The combination of sweetness and high alcohol is just too much, and make this a difficult beer to drink.

John_M, Dec 08, 2008
Photo of KAF
3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

KAF, Jul 09, 2014
Photo of Latarnik
3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

Latarnik, Jul 06, 2014
Photo of JohnGalt1
3.4/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Just had the regular Samichlaus while working on stuff for tomorrow... The Helles seems like a natural follower. I've never had this before despite buying them for the cellar... This is an '07.

My Delirium goblet is glowing clear orange.. the head was pretty much nonexistent...

Nose is pretty boozy with thick and sweet pale malt.... sugar cookies... hints of fruitiness... lite white peaches.

Flavor has all the aromas with an encompassing golden raisin essence.. some honey notes.. thick and malty... there could be some spicy hoppiness that is wrecked by the booze... like some grappa was thrown into some peach juice honey water concoction... almost like somebody boiled down a maibock and spiked it with yeast.

The body and carbonation are the same as the regular Sami... but overall, this is turning into a chore... the drinkability is lost on the fact that it is very one dimensional..

The bad thing is, despite my review, I will continue to pick these up time to time, just so I can let them age.. but I am sure they will get no better (stoopid stoopid beer hoarder mentality).... I'm not dum... I'm a kollektor.

3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5/3

Edit: looking at other reviews, I get no "caramel" or toffee.. instead, it is just a verging on cloying pale maltiness.

JohnGalt1, Mar 18, 2010
Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
85 out of 100 based on 345 ratings.