Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Ratings: 353
Reviews: 220
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 15.73%
Wants: 17
Gots: 47 | FT: 0
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Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007)
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Photo of JayS2629
4.63/5  rDev +23.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is very similar to the original samichlaus but sweeter and lighter.

A- Red amber with little head.

S- Brown sugar with notes of cherry and cinamon. Hints of vanilla.

T- Caramel and toffee with hints of vanilla and cherry. Some cinamon. Raw sugar.

M- Sticky and creamy. Almost cloying.

D- Strong but alcohol well hidden. Definitely a sipping beer. Slightly easier to drink that the original. Lighter and alcohol masked better. Sweeter.

Photo of geokills
4.08/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured out a bottle dated 2007, the burnt amber fluid produced minimal head, with a very slight ring of retention. Exceptionally sweet malty smell coaxes me to imbibe this strong doppelbock. Surprisingly at 14% abv, the alcohol has mellowed very well through the years to produce a sweet, slightly cloying and full bodied concoction balanced with good carbonation. Slightly sticky but by and large, very enjoyable for a beer of such potency.

Photo of AgentMunky
4.08/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 33cL bottle into a pilsner glass.

A: Red amber. No head or bubbles. Just plain pretty.

S: Sour grapes or cranberries, almost like wine verging on vinegar. Strong alcohol with sweet undertones.

T: Strongly, sweetly spicy; lighter than the Samichlaus Classic. The main body is sweet -- peach, apricot, sweet cherries, raw sugar -- but with touches of carbonation and spices (cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamon?). The aftertaste is sweet, long, and kind of sticky.

M: Too sticky for me. Not quite cloying, but almost.

D: Too sweet and too strong to be drinkable, but still really good. Highly recommended, but not as good as the Classic.

Photo of Swill5786
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2007... 14% ABV...

Pours an apricot-shade of orange... Minimal head, quickly fades. Carbonation tosses the yeast about for a few minutes before it settles down. Nose of a great doppelbock... Alcohol content clearly high, doing a good job hiding spicy hops. Picking up complexity of aromas: Raisins, plums, cherries, apples. Sweet start with fruity nose making a strong showing in the taste. Carbonation is decent throughout. Alcohol creates a bitterness in the finish, but becomes clandestine, showing up under a pleasant, bready aftertaste. Medium body. Alcohol presence increases slightly with warming. Drink one and you'll be good to go.

Photo of jrrs
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

i am glad i got a chance to drink this, and would have another in the future, but i prefer regular Samichlaus.

got it at Ledger's Liqour in berkeley. they have them refrigerated and the labels are pretty moldy but who cares. iirc the bottling was 2008.

Photo of bucklemyshoe
3.25/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz. bottle at 42* into a snifter.

A: This pours a clear, dark-red color with no head to speak of.

S: It is mostly overtaken by alcohol but there are notes of cherry, raisins, and sugary caramel.

T: It consists of cherry, figs, brown sugar, and lots of alcohol.

M: This is very sweet without being very thick. Strange.

D: If this had only 10-11% abv, I think it would be much better.

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I didn't even know this existed, until I saw someone order it at the bar I'm marooned at while the rain pours down. So, here I go, a drinkin'...

Clear amber color, smallish white head, stick around a bit...

Aroma: clean and lightly fruity, peach and apple, apricot and herbs...

Drink it already!....Boom! Big fat malt, huge fruity flavor, little hops, nothing but enormous malt and alcohol. Slick, sweet, clean. Yum. Light bodied, lean, sweet, malty lager....way over-sized booze. Incredible, formidable, intense. Burning fruit roasts the palate, clean and mean, ...yum, and hot! yum, and fierce! yum, and POW!

Mmmm, all 14 % blonde doppelbocks should be this good!

Photo of Cylinsier
3.98/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bottle

Pours a light amber gold, thin white head retains as a lacing.

The smell is almost sugar sweet, with notes of apple and caramel and a hint on the acidic side.

Taste is very sweet like overripe fruit. There is a heavy alcohol taste as well.

Feels moderate to full, tingly carbonation in the back of the throat and on the tip of the tongue. Warms going down.

Fairly similar to the other Samichlaus, but sweeter and lighter, maybe bordering on too sweet. I prefer the other, but this beer is an experience not to be taken lightly, worth trying at least once to say you did.

Photo of BeardedBoffin
1.43/5  rDev -61.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

This hefty brew was delivered in a 33 cl brown vessel. The beer poured a handsome amber color, but the is completely devoid of foam, due to the high alcohol content I suppose.

The aroma charges into the nasal passages like something from a bygone war. Heavily scented with sweetly fermenting grains--not rotten, but not far from it. The thought of high-protein cattle feed is also triggered by the waft. The booze is inescapable. The aroma bursts forth into flavor on the palate evincing a wince from this taste tester. Everything the nose foretold is here, recklessly floundering about, before it signs off with a big boozy burn.

I am able to enjoy a malt bomb. The more barleywine, the better, I always say. But I am having trouble locating anything positive about the taste profile of this malty brew. After the first sip, I braved one more, but then could not continue. The label proudly boasts, "The world's most extraordinary beverage". I, for one, would use a different adjective.

Photo of psychoanesthesia
1.3/5  rDev -65.3%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

This beer is terrible.

It's the color of apple juice. Or urine. No head due to high alcohol content.

It smells like caramelized sugar, rotten apples and/or other similar fruits, and alcohol.

It tastes like it smells. Cloyingly sweet, rotten tasting; overall, very offensive. The alcohol warmth doesn't help. This beer is all malt - the little bitterness it does have is from the alcohol. The first time I drank this beer I was convinced I had purchased a bad bottle. So I drank another one to confirm. Yup, it's that bad alright! One dimension to this beer, folks - crap.

Mouthfeel is kinda like lightly carbonated vomit - slick, thick, and unpleasant. Drinkability is poor due mainly to the fact that it tastes bad and has 14% alcohol. It's lightly carbonated, so that helps the drinkability, I guess.

The original Samichlaus is actually very good (as is Samichlaus Helles's cheaper counterpart, the Urbock 23), so I would emphatically recommend avoiding this beer.

Photo of cpetrone84
3.33/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Not sure if this is the right beer but I have a 14% abv. bottle that says Samichlaus on it. It is brewed only once a year on Dec. 6th after being aged for 10 months.

A-the beer pours a dark copper color with red edges. the head is tan colored but very thin and almost not existent dissipating immediately.

S-the nose is extremely sweet, tons of brown sugar and carmelized candy notes. hints of dark cherries and some ripe plum, notes of bourbon in the finish.

T-the taste is extremely sweet. carmelized brown sugar, tons of candied sugar, notes of caramel malt, some dark cherries, fig, and ripe plum and set underneath all of the sugar. this is huge flavor but so sweet.

M-extremely smooth and o so syrupy. this is full bodied, thick and viscous. a little low on carbonation to lack a strong finish and actually slightly astringent pucking the lips somewhat.

D-this is just too sweet to really enjoy. it has some nice flavors; but all of the sugar and sweetness in this make it almost difficult to drink. the huge abv is hidden very well, however.

Photo of Schwarzwald
3.38/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This is a surprising beer. Very high ABV but it is very hard to notice through the taste. I like the sweetness of plum and raisin, but there is a little depth missing for me. It has a lot of flavor, but maybe not the right flavor for me. I wish it had a little smokiness and/or oakiness, might be just what it needs. Now, don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, I am just looking for perfection out of "The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage".

High ABV = 11%

Definitely give it a try though!

Photo of sinistermadman
3.43/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2007
Pours a copper color with a slight head that dissipates immediately. Faint aroma of caramel, malt, but not too much of note.

Taste is a somewhat sweet with a warming alcohol undercurrent. Negligible carbonation and a slick, watery mouthfeel do little to excite the palate. Drinkability is respectable at 12%, but alcohol is noticeable as the brew warms. Worth a try, but I wouldn't seek it out.

Photo of coalcracker
2.98/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Bottled in 2007. Pours a slightly cloudy golden color with carbonation quickly settling down.
Smell: Aroma is sweet with notes of dark fruits (eg raisin, currant, a little black licorice).
Taste: Very sweet at the onset with those dark fruits building mid-taste. Very sweet indeed, almost cloying. A mild alcohol warmth presents at the end, but overall is fairly well-hidden despite a 14% abv.
Mouthfeel: Fairly thick and chewy mouthfeel- as a doppelbock should be.
Drinkability: A sipper at 14%. Between this and its sweetness, a fast consumption would be foolhardy.

Overall: A bit too sweet for me. OK brew. Able to finish the bottle, but will not be thirsting for another anytime soon.

Photo of MrHassellYaHurd
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Samichlaus Helles pours into a tulip glass a beautifully clear copper/orange. Tiny bubbles laze to the surface, just beneath a thin wispy white head which rapidly becomes but a ring around the edge of the glass.

The smell is a densely packed bouquet of sugary-sweet candies, raisins, bananas, and a bit of oranges over a strong malty backbone.

The taste is super sweet as well, with strong banana and malt prominence. Through the intensely sweet and syrupy-thick mouthfeel, the 14% of alcohol rapidly warms the mouth and throat. It is similar to drinking a sweet pastry (lol). Drinkability, for me, is less than ideal. The alcohol is a tad harsh, and the sweetness is near cloying.

Photo of Parrotbeak
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear, bubbly light orange with almost no head, save for a white, bubbly ring around the perimeter.
Smell is strong, sweet malts. Caramel, sugar, and some dark fruit--plums, figs, and raisins. Alcohol is assertive, bringing some heat to the nose.
Taste is syrupy sweet malts that are slightly bready. Sugar, molasses, figs, and raisins come in as well. Surprisingly, the alcohol is fairly well concealed in the taste.
Mouthfeel has a little bit of bite to it--not nearly as flat as I was expecting it to be, indicating a low-to-moderate level of carbonation. Still, it's slightly sticky, and the alcohol brings some heat to the tongue and throat.
For a sipper, this one is good. As noted, the alcohol is well-concealed, and it's an easy one to sip on.

Photo of mdfb79
3.08/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass. Bottled in 2007.

a - Pours a murky orangish/amber color with low carbonation and about a half inch of white head that quickly leaves.

s - Smells of sweet, dark fruits including plums, raisins, and maybe cherries. Also some oak, malts, and booze, although not as much as I was expecting considering it is 14% ABV.

t - Dark fruits, booze, malts, some spices, and maybe a tiny bit of chocolate even. The alcohol was a lot more prominent in the taste than it was in the nose.

m - Medium body with low carbonation. Some alcohol warmth, but not as much as you'd think considering it's 14% ABV.

d - Middle of the road for me. I enojoyed the smell more than the taste, as the alcohol came out a little too much in the taste and feel to me. I have one bottle left that is in my cellar that I plan on holding onto for a few years to see what happens, but right now I wouldn't look to drink it again.

Photo of Proteus93
3.35/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Finally picked up the Helles, though I have had the other several times. It seemed about time. This was a 2007 brew.

A: Honey golden, nice and clear, though head struggles to form, and is quite bubbly and soapy when it does. The alcohol content is likely to blame for it, but it's worth noting.

S + T: Malty sweetness, some notes of fruitiness - a little fig and the like. Quite a notable alcohol aroma, and it's actually probably one of the biggest scents. The flavour is very similar, also with a bit of a papery note. Overall, it comes across a little more boozy than flavourful.

M + D: Body is a little thin, but fairly hot, giving it a chemical-quality... it's not horribly bad, but it doesn't seem to perform as well as its equally strong brother. I don't know if I'd readily go back for another... it seemed to lack some of the complexity that the other can showcase, and was something of a disappointment, ultimately.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.4/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Just had the regular Samichlaus while working on stuff for tomorrow... The Helles seems like a natural follower. I've never had this before despite buying them for the cellar... This is an '07.

My Delirium goblet is glowing clear orange.. the head was pretty much nonexistent...

Nose is pretty boozy with thick and sweet pale malt.... sugar cookies... hints of fruitiness... lite white peaches.

Flavor has all the aromas with an encompassing golden raisin essence.. some honey notes.. thick and malty... there could be some spicy hoppiness that is wrecked by the booze... like some grappa was thrown into some peach juice honey water concoction... almost like somebody boiled down a maibock and spiked it with yeast.

The body and carbonation are the same as the regular Sami... but overall, this is turning into a chore... the drinkability is lost on the fact that it is very one dimensional..

The bad thing is, despite my review, I will continue to pick these up time to time, just so I can let them age.. but I am sure they will get no better (stoopid stoopid beer hoarder mentality).... I'm not dum... I'm a kollektor.

3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5/3

Edit: looking at other reviews, I get no "caramel" or toffee.. instead, it is just a verging on cloying pale maltiness.

Photo of portlandjeff
3.85/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Samichlaus bier helles -2007 vintage

pours a beautiful crisp clear amber red with rapidly dissipating soda-like head.

the nose is extreme - like hot melted chocolate covered figs and sweet booze.

taste is smooth and similar to the nose, with the added complexity of rich spiciness, mainly cinnamon and nutmeg. This sensation is further enhanced by the heat of the alcohol and the sharp carbonation.

Mouthfeel is a bit thick and syrupy, with the high alcohol and carbonation warming and tingling from the lips all the way to the throat.

This beer is sticky and resinous and it really lingers in the finish.

Between the sweetness, high ABV, and boozy heat of this vintage at this time, drinkability isn't high, but it's very tastey and I can understand why older vintages are so highly sought after.

This is a delicious, rich, and decadent beer, but even after 3 years in the bottle, it still begs for more time. I bought a 4 pack, with the intention of enjoying 2 now, and 2 later. After having my first, and really enjoying it, I've decided to age all three of the remaining bottles for some time, as I think they'll be more enjoyable in the future.

Photo of Flashsp2
4.3/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Samichlaus Helles Malt Liquor (doppelbock)

2007 vintage, poured into a slender tulip in April 2009

Pours a nice medium red with golden highlights. Short lived white head with no lacing to speak of, typical of high octane beers.

A nice toasty malt flavor with some prune like notes, and a good bit of booze as the beer warms. A cough syrup/medical aroma from the big alcoholic phenols.

Flavor is big toasty malts, some sweetness, a warming/prickly hit from the 14% ABV, some dark fruit/prune. Some oak and sherry qualities from the aging as well, all around quite complex for a lager. No hop flavor or bitterness, which makes sense for the aging and style. Some medical quality from the phenols, giving off a bit of cough syrup on the palette as well as the nose.

Mouthfeel is quite syrupy and the carbonation is very low.Feels very hefty and chewy in the mouth. Alcohol provides a bit of warmth.

This beer isn't super easy drinking, but the overall complexity of the experience makes up for it. This is a great beer, and a super treat for anybody who can get their hands on one (or a few if you want to lay them down for a while).

Photo of Brent
3.58/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

My first impression of this beer was that it was a syrupy sweet, boozy mess. Big Karo syrup sweetness up front, followed by a pungent alcoholic bite. Flat bittering followed, wallowing in the sweet malt. Much as I was not engaged by the first few sips, I found myself nonetheless continuing to drink to conclusion. An odd disconnect between drinkability and overall flavor I am at a loss to explain.

Photo of Sallerj
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This is a brilliantly clear, orange beer that smells like raisins and booze, almost like a port. It's very boozy and syrupy, which is to be expected from a 14% beer. It has a honey, mildly hoppy aftertaste. It goes down pretty easy for a massively strong beer, but it has none of the crispness that you'd expect from a lager. I'm not sure what makes it a helles.

Photo of tatoodkelt
3/5  rDev -20%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Consumed 2/15/2010- from notes.

11.2oz brown bottle as pictured poured into a shaker glass. 2007 vintage.

I would not have known this was a doppelbock til I looked here.

A- Very vibrant, clear copper topped off with a one finger, tight bubbled, white head that faded pretty quick to a patchy skim. Random carbination bubbles make there way up very slowly.

S- Some maltiness but mostly candy sweet.

T- Big malt flavor up front, very much like a scotch ale at first with a little earthy smokiness. As the malt fades its replaced by a sweet boozy flavor that dominates the flavor. Also seems to pick up a little almost metallic taste.

M- Medium bodied, a little sticky and very mild carbination.

D- I loved the initial malt flavor but couldnt take what it changed into. Definitely wouldnt have more than one in a sitting, I barely made it through this one.

Photo of DNA
2.65/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Poured from 11.2 oz bottle into a snifter. Quarter inch head that lasts only seconds. Very clear beer with a light copper/amber color. Aroma is a very sweet baked pineapple. No hop character in nose. This beer smells like a dessert and should probably be served as a dessert beer. The taste is overwhelmingly sweet and one dimensional. Whatever hops were used in this beer are long gone, leaving only a lingering bitterness that can't compete with the residual sugars. Even the high alcohol content can't cut through the cloying sweetness. The mouthfeel is more thick and chewy than expected even for such a high gravity beer...more like a liqueur. As far as drinkability goes, I can barely get through one bottle. Better to split a bottle with friends (or uninvited guests) in sherry glasses. Good luck!

Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
85 out of 100 based on 353 ratings.