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Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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BA SCORE
85
very good

334 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 334
Reviews: 213
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 15.47%
Wants: 17
Gots: 49 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007)
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Photo of janubio
4.9/5  rDev +30.7%

I didin't know about this one until I saw a bottle in De Bierkoning in a trip to Amsterdam last year. Wish I had bought more bottles. Served in my rare Samichlaus glass, it pours some more head than its sister and lasts a bit more, but you can say it doesn't last. Very nice maber-orange colour, and absolutely beatiful when you hold it to the light.
Smells of honey, tropical fruits, dried fruits, and even almonds or hazelnuts or similar. Licorice, caramel. Silky sweet, maybe too sweet, flavor. Palate is similar, orange, honey, hazelnuts... only add a touch of oak. The finish is more like an orange liquor than a brandy, a difference to the Samichlaus we all know. The only "bad" thing that I could find is that I would have like it a little less sweetness, but when you have a beer like this, who cares?

janubio, May 19, 2009
Photo of theboozecruise
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%

Poured from a small bottle into a pint glass... light golden color with a little bit of a white head. The aroma is hard for me to place... maybe a little bit of banana in there? Smells like something burned a little, weird I know. The taste is strong, maybe a little fruit and the 14% alcohol is definitely there. I'm still having a little trouble with the flavor, but it's good. Strong, but good.

I'm not enamored by this one, but it's definitely a solid beer.

theboozecruise, May 03, 2009
Photo of ncstateplaya
3.73/5  rDev -0.5%

I'm not so sure if the beer was this good, or if it was the fact I was enjoying it at the head of the bar at the Brick Store. (+1)

It pours a great amber with a very clear presentation. Somewhat of a white head, but I would qualify it as a white sheen coating the surface. This beer seemed to be pretty effervescent for the style and ABV.

Caramel and vanilla flood the senses. Big and sweet upfront with an inviting maltiness that stimulates my salivary glands. Smells slightly yeasty with a bit of alcohol.

Very complex taste, comparable to a nice cognac. Rich and extremely sweet, with a slight oaky aftertaste. Dark fruit-> brandy like (apricots, dates, figs) with tons of caramel up front.

Viscous and medium to full bodied. Silky smooth with tight bubbled carbonation that is lively in the mouth. Very sweet with residual sugars. Definitely coats the mouth and leaves the tongue and cheeks feeling "satisfied". There is a big alcohol bite on the finish.

The flavors definitely reveal themselves as this beer warms. Much more pronounced, but so is the big alcohol character of this beer. Very drinkable at 14%, but 2 is enough for anyone. There is no doubt, this beer warms from the inside out.

ncstateplaya, Apr 28, 2009
Photo of Monsteruss
5/5  rDev +33.3%

One of my favorite beers. The foam was a light wheat/white which dissapated very quickly witha small ring afterwards. The color was nice golden honey with hints of red and orange in the light. Taste was exceptional - it was darker and heavier than percieved by color. It also had berry undertones. Smell - crisp, clean and a variety of exotic complex fruity hints. Mouthfeel was deep. Drinkibility - smooth and rich a nice aquired taste.

Monsteruss, Apr 14, 2009
Photo of lordofthewiens
3.3/5  rDev -12%

A 750ml bottle shared with my wife. It didn't look like a doppelbock, being a pretty light amber color with a small white head. Caramel malt and honey aroma. The alcohol hits you in the face when you take a sip, followed by a strong malt presence, and a pervasive incredible sweetness. This beer was way too sweet, and the alcohol was way too intrusive. I doubt I'll be drinking this beer again.

lordofthewiens, Apr 08, 2009
Photo of BedetheVenerable
3.55/5  rDev -5.3%

Presentation: Very classy looking pry off brown bottle, 2007 batch

Appearance: Light orange/amber beer with a white ring; mild TINY bubbles, almost Champagne-like

Smell: Light candied fruit and malt notes; sweet bready tones underneath

Taste: Ultra sweet, there are sharp (but light) notes of alcohol, very faint cotton candy notes, with sweet orange peel as well...this is much more like a brandy than a beer

Mouthfeel: Viscous, medium-heavy bodied with nice long finish

Drinkability: Pretty good for a 14%abv beer

Conclusion: This is not something I'd drink often, but it would be quite nice to split with the lady after a nice meal

BedetheVenerable, Apr 08, 2009
Photo of Floydster
3.13/5  rDev -16.5%

11.2 ounce bottle purchased from Stuffed Sandwich for around seven dollars, 2008 vintage, split with my dad last night, poured into my Duvel tulip glass

A-Golden orangish amber color with some golden yellow highlights, one inch foamy white head, decent retention, some lacing
S-Alcohol, honey, sweetness, lots of citrus, caramel, good amount of malt, toasted bread
T-Starts off hot with a lot of booze, sweet malts and other fruit in the middle, slightly toasted in the finish but still a big boozy flavor, this becomes so damn sweet that I can barely get it down towards the end, honey comes out later and adds to the sweetness and booze
M-Hot, sweet, and slightly toasted mouthfeel, medium to full bodied, carbonation is on the softer side which surprised me after seeing the head, taste lingers too long
D-Should have shared this with one or two more people, alcohol is not hidden at all and really affects its drinkability, overly sweet all the way through, very filling and reminds me a little of cough syrup at various times

Not my favorite dopplebock and quite light in color for the style, originally thought this was a hopped up version of a Helles Lager and I seemed to be wrong after the very first sip I took, not in a hurry to drink this again, a little too strong in my opinion, worth trying

Floydster, Apr 04, 2009
Photo of Crosling
3.83/5  rDev +2.1%

Pale colored beer with a thin, wispy white foam. Strong malt aroma hints of light golden fruits and caramel. Flavor is intensely sweet and intensely flavored. Nicely balanced, with well hidden alcohol, this beauty deliverers strong, complex malt notes of golden raisin, caramel and toffee. Should drink well for a decade.

Crosling, Mar 17, 2009
Photo of Mdog
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%

Appearance: Gold, thin & fading head, no lacing.

Smell: I know it's strong, but does it have to smell like a high gravity malt liquor? Alcohol, apple/grape aroma reminds me too much of a 40oz.

Taste: Thankfully the taste stays far away from malt liquor nastiness. Very sweet, mild bread, strong caramel, a touch of grape, alcohol burn.

Drinkability: A special occasion beer.

Picked up a single at half off pricing. I had the regular Samichlaus years ago and remembered it was sweet and that I took a nap afterwards. The Helles follows, very sweet but not cloying. No nap this time!

Mdog, Mar 01, 2009
Photo of Brad007
3.33/5  rDev -11.2%

Wow, 14%?

Pours a nice light amber color with a one-finger head and what appears to be ample carbonation.

Aroma is sweet with a strong whiff of alcohol in the nose. A bit of tart apple comes through as well for some reason. Not quite as dark as a doppelbock though.

Taste is strong and very malty upfront. Almost a bit too sweet as well. Alcohol is hidden enough in the back but the sweetness is too much for me.

Sweetness lingers on the palate followed by nothing but alcohol.

This is definitely a bit too sweet. I was expecting a malt bomb (good) but instead this seems like a sugar bomb (bad). I'm not sure how well it would age but I'm sure it'd be sickly sweet by then.

Brad007, Mar 01, 2009
Photo of AleWerks
3.58/5  rDev -4.5%

12 oz. bottle aged 1 year.

Amber, orange appearance. Highly carbonated.

Sweet smell with some DMS coming through.

Cloyingly sweet. Sugar.

Thick and viscous, with a brightly carbonated finish.

Too sweet for me. I can barely finish this beer by itself. It would go well paired with something equally sweet. Not my favorite but worth a try.

AleWerks, Feb 25, 2009
Photo of AccidentalKate
3.9/5  rDev +4%

A nice amber-orange like color . Carbonation seems strong, but truth is somewhere else (see mouthfeel). No head or lace to speak of after a minute or so.

Aroma is a fruity, berry like smell, light but very present.

Nothing like I've ever tasted before. Sweet and caramel like with a finish that is quite sugary. Novelty alone gets the taste up. Finish lasts a well, but the sweetness gets a to be a bit cloy.

As far as the mouthfeel, for all of the carbonation that appears to be present, the mouthfeel seems a bit light. The snap of good carbonation is missing, or at least less than the drink advertises.

Overall? A good beer, not great. This would be a nice dessert beer to go with a cake or something. It's a little too sweet at the end, and a little less than sharp in the mouthfeel. But it is worth trying to see something different.

AccidentalKate, Feb 15, 2009
Photo of BMoney575
4.03/5  rDev +7.5%

Sampled on 1-25-09
2007 Vintage

Pours a very clear orange/gold color, no head, and almost no lacing. Looks thick and boozy.

Smell is very sweet, kind of fruity in a wine way, and a noticeable alcohol kick.

Taste is very sweet, a bit of light fruit, and a big, bready, boozy finish. Extreme alcohol, but not in a bad way. One-dimensional, but tasty.

Mouthfeel is super thick and syrupy, great to go with the flavors.

Drinkability is very good, considering the enormous abv.

Overall, about what I expected, and a good choice to loosen things up.

BMoney575, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of colts9016
4.22/5  rDev +12.5%

Pour into a pilsner glass at 45 degrees.

Appearance: A deep gold color with no head. There is a lot of carbonation in the beer. The clarity of the beer is very clear.

Nose: Port like aroma. Raisin, plum, grape , and rich toasted malt with a sweet caramel molasses. A rich alcoholic on the foreground. Kinda like a grape juice on store shelves.

Taste: A spicy alcohol with a port like aroma with raisin, plum, and grapes. There is a lightly toasted malt with a sweet yeast and bread like. There is caramel and that grape juice taste.

Overall: I like this one better than its cousin. It has a spicy warming alcohol mouth feel. The finish is sweet and linger on the palate for a few moments. The is a very strong beer that will put u at one or two sheets.

colts9016, Jan 15, 2009
Photo of roadhouse
4.63/5  rDev +23.5%

Had this on tap today at Three Floyds into a Samichlaus tulip glass.

Appearance was a bright and clear golden-orange with a one inch off-white head. It retained pretty well and left some decent lacing on the glass.

The aroma was pretty similar to the other one, without the "darker" notes. There's tons of sweet caramel and toffee notes, a big raisiny backbone, and a lovely brown sugarish sweetness. Alcohol is obviously apparent at 14% ABV, but doesn't distract.

The taste is just as good. Lots of sweetness throughout, with a lot of caramel sweetness and brown sugar in the beginning. Fruitiness is just as big, mostly of raisins, which enters right at the start of the swallow. The finish was a lingering of both the fruitiness and malt character. No hops to speak of son, this is malt country.

Mouthfeel was medium bodied, very smooth drinking with a slight crispness. Alcohol factor is slightly deterrent to drinkability.

I just don't understand how both Samichlaus are rated with a measly B+! These are world class beers in my opinion, easily the two best Doppelbocks ever, and I've had quite a few. I can sum this beer up in a few word: I need more.

roadhouse, Jan 13, 2009
Photo of BWH3
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%

A: Rich copper with just of white head. Head last an average length of time. Above average carbonation without being gassy or fizzy.

S: A sweet, spicy and alcoholic scent. Toasted grains are clearly present.

T: Similar big rich sweet malt flavor with lots of toasted notes. The alcohol is not as noticeable as in the scent but the palate is thick and has a bit of spice.

M: Thick, average head retention. Creamy and viscous beverage.

D: A warm winter lager that lights you up like a Christmas tree. Cheers.

BWH3, Jan 04, 2009
Photo of JamesS
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%

Pours a light copper color with a ton of initial head, although it goes away quickly; no lacing, but a lot of lasting carbonation. Very deep scent, extremely malty with some caramal undertones and a hint of cinnamon; a very strong hint of alcohol. Deep taste, slight fruity esters to go with the deep malt and caramal notes, although the alcohol sticks out enough to take away from some of the flavor. Fairly rough due to its high ABV, although not as rough as it could be. A nice helles/dopplebock merger. The history of the beer is great, although the cost is pretty prohibitive (luckily this was a gift from a friend).

JamesS, Jan 04, 2009
Photo of BeerImmediately
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%

11.2 oz capped bottle poured at 55 degrees into Duvel glass.

Surprisingly clear, and orange in color, with a low head and plenty of bubbles rising.

The smell was pretty tame - I picked up sweet pear and alcohol, with a touch of orange peel.

Sweet fruits and dark bread (s'up, fruitcake!) with what I'll describe as "pleasant" alcohol in the flavor. Some honey sweetness in the finish.

The mouthfeel was rich, and plays on the tongue for a while, but not as cloying as many other styles which have only 9-11% ABV. I give them credit for pulling this off at 14%.

I really enjoyed this one, and wouldn't hesitate to drop some coin on some of these in the future.

BeerImmediately, Jan 04, 2009
Photo of Jmamay22
2.93/5  rDev -21.9%

2007 vintage.

This big lager pours a clear orange tinted blonde with little head and only an egg shell colored collar. Smells of apple, raisin, and spiced alcohol. Enjoyable, yet simple scent.

Tastes sweet, fruity and shows less of its alcohol than anticipated. A little too sickly sweet for my tastes. Syrupy mouthfeel. A very slow sipper. The alcohol isn't as difficult as the sweetness and really holds back the drinkability of this beer. Exciting concept that fails with me in practice

Jmamay22, Jan 03, 2009
Photo of scottoale
4.22/5  rDev +12.5%

2007 vintage, 330ml. brown bottle. Poured into a Chimay chalice a bright orange-gold with a thin 1/4" off-white head that disappears before your eyes.

It smells of sweet toasty malt, over ripened fruit and boat load of alcohol, as it should at 14% ABV.

The taste is ever so sweet of grainy malt, floral fruitiness and a big punch of alcohol that hides not. This stuff tastes strong and is strong. Good and strong.

A medium syrupy body that fluffs a bit in the mouth, tingles a bit on the tongue, then goes down with a pleasant warming sensation...good stuff!

Very sweet, very drinkable for it's potency and a kick-ass brew to boot...worth the experience for sure.

scottoale, Dec 24, 2008
Photo of froghop
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

pours a clear copper-orange with a small white head that goes away quickly, leaving some lacing.

smell is fruity, malt, alcohol, and few hops.

taste is thick, sweat fruit, caramel, malt, and warming.

very nice brew, more of something to sip and not gulp. very warm on the way down.

froghop, Dec 24, 2008
Photo of charlzm
4/5  rDev +6.7%

Consumed 12/19/08 at Verdugo, Los Angeles, CA.

Clear, dark honey colored beer with little carbonation or head.

Aroma is very sweet and boozy with a bit of a spice character, almost like tree sap.

Flavor has strong note of vanilla with that tree sap character form the aroma as well. Sweet with alcohol heat. Woody (oak?) Almost a champagne character as well. Flavor lingers on the palate well after the beer has passed through.

Slight astringency on finish. Thick.

Huge beer, requires patience and determination to finish. Worth it, though.

charlzm, Dec 23, 2008
Photo of usmittymc
3.4/5  rDev -9.3%

A: Deep orange liquid with a very thin white head that reduces to a ring.

S: Dark fruit, alcohol, sweet malt

T: The fruity flavors are contrasted quickly by some spicy licorice flavors which is in turn smacked in the face by hot, hot alcohol. The alcohol dominates the palate, but doesn't take away from this beer. It is subtly complemented by the other flavors, but I wouldn't go as far to say that it is balanced.

M: Smooth on the draw, but the alcohol quickly takes over and makes this beer hot, hot, hot.

D: This is definitely a beer to be appreciated very slowly and infrequently. I didn't quite know what to expect from this one, and I have to say that I was surprised. I have another 11.2 oz bottle of this that I will probably let age for a couple more years. I cellared this one for about 11 months.

usmittymc, Dec 17, 2008
Photo of SFLpunk
4.47/5  rDev +19.2%

750mL painted brown glass swingtop. "Bottled in 2007." This is one of 12 bottles that came into the state of Vermont recently.

Appearance: Almost no carbonation. A clear, orange/gold hue that gets thin and watery at the rim, going more burnt yellow towards the edges.

Nose: Sweet Jesus! Candy malt, light caramel, yellow plantains, a quick zip of licorice, candied orange peel, and some prickly alcohol.

Palate: Medium bodied, almost no carbonation, and a little hot and sweet up front. As the sugar-shock fades, toasty malt notes come out. A little creme brulée, Marcona almonds, a faint whisper of citrus, a touch of ripe banana, and sweet buttered oak. A warming finish of alcohol carries the flavors on for minutes after the sip.

Notes: At 14% ABV, this beer is surprisingly balanced. It's hot, and a little prickly, but it doesn't feel like 14. 10 maybe. The finish is incredibly long, and the ageability of this beer is out of this world. I might have to buy some for my children...maybe it will be mature by then!

Oh man. The finish is amazing. The banana/plantain thing comes in and out of focus for minutes after the sip. I'm going to go make some seared dry-rubbed Pollack and some red beans and rice to have with this!

SFLpunk, Dec 16, 2008
Photo of UGADawgGuy
3.43/5  rDev -8.5%

I've enjoyed several regular Samichlaus over the last few months, and when I saw the helles on the shelf, I just had to try it. I must warn you prior to my review that I think this beer should, as a rule, be cellared for a while...I'll review it again in a year or two (or three), and my impression of it will probably improve dramatically.

Appearance: Poured into a 19-ounce dimpled glass mug (the one from the Savvy Six-Pack sold on this site), this beer is sparkling clear, with a color about halfway between "pale ale" and "amber lager." An average pour yields a one-finger head that dwindles to a faint cap fairly quickly. Minimal lacing is observed during drinking.

Smell: Smells like a beefed-up German Oktoberfestbier to me. The alcohol is perceptible in the nose, which is (in my experience) a rare thing for a beer this sweet. I pick up aromas of honey, flowers, and LOTS of malt.

Taste: Essentially follows the nose, in that the two most prominent flavors are honey and astringent alcohol (but not in that order). The malt is certainly there, but DAMN -- the alcohol just about overpowers everything else about this beer. Again, I suspect it would vastly improve with age. I plan to test that theory over the next few years.

Mouthfeel: Noticeablly thinner and less full than standard Samichlaus. Feels kind of like a festbier. By that, I mean it seems SLIGHTLY heavier than your average European lager, but nowhere close to...say, an English barleywine.

Drinkability -- If it weren't for the obvious -- and detrimental -- alcohol heat and astringency that overwhelms the rest of the drinking experience, maybe it'd be more drinkable. As it is, this stuff is very difficult to finish, even when sipped slowly. Certainly not a drain pour-type of beer, but probably just a beer that's not "ready" yet. Let these babies sit in your cellar (or on the retailer's shelves) for a year or two before popping one open.

UGADawgGuy, Dec 15, 2008
Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
85 out of 100 based on 334 ratings.