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Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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85
very good

313 Ratings
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Ratings: 313
Reviews: 210
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 15.73%


Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007)
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

3.13/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

"The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage."

--label

Bottled in 2007 (the first since 1986). Radiant tangerine with barely one finger of ivory colored cream created on the high-altitude pour. Guess we can blame the high ABV and the lack of hop resins for the diminutive crown... that is now nearly gone. Needless to day, no lace is seen on the snifter.

The nose makes almost no impact. At least not of a positive nature. Each sniff delivers very lightly toasted pale grains with a surprisingly subtle contribution from ethanol. Not sure what the flavor hook is going to be.

Samichlaus Helles tastes like a higher-quality malt liquor. In fact, is says 'malt liquor' right there on the label. Yeah, probably just some government regulation or some such. It's definitely sweet and the alcohol is buried better than expected.

As feared, there isn't much here to get excited about from a flavor standpoint. Tons of dark malts (big stouts) and tons of hops (IPAs) are right in my wheelhouse, but tons of pale malt has never really done it for me. Specifics include rock candy, lightly toasted bread soaked in sugar syrup, and a splash of honey (mead-like). Simple as a stone.

The mouthfeel finds that sweet-spot between big enough and not too big. It's fullish and lush without being ponderous, and the bubbles are finely spritzy... which works because they're softened by all the malt sugars.

Samichlaus Helles, in my humble opinion, is light years away from being the world's most extraordinary beverage. It's a decent sipper if you're into high-octane beer, but that's where it ends. I'm okay if Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg wants to wait another 21 years between bottlings.

Serving type: bottle

01-31-2011 14:09:54 | More by BuckeyeNation
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cindyjeffsmith

Georgia

4.53/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2007 Vintage
appearance: Similar to the 08' Samichlaus. Light copper with a very slight head. Decent lacing though.
smell: Yum. More butter and spicy goodness.
taste: Not quite up to the bottle of 08' I had a few weeks back but quite de-lish make no mistake. Toffee and light spice.
drinkability: Amazed at how smooth this monster is.

Serving type: bottle

01-15-2011 01:14:40 | More by cindyjeffsmith
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dstc

Florida

4.33/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a beautiful, deep copper color. Off-white head falls to nothing. Thinnest if lace.

Aroma is all malt and very sweet. Alcohol comes through as well.

Taste mimics the aroma with heavy malts and big sweetness. No real hops to be found. Boozy and sweet in the finish.

Medium to full bodied mouthfeel with low carbonation and a warming alcohol bite.

Wow, great malt bomb. This stuff is very nice. Try it.

Serving type: bottle

01-04-2011 15:21:44 | More by dstc
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roblowther

Texas

2.83/5  rDev -24.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Helles or doppelbock? I'm confused but I'm ok with that. Pours golden amber, clear and bubbly, with a head that quickly settles into a thin off-white covering. Smells like candied oranges, caramel, and a slight nuttiness. It smells good but like it may be too sweet. Let's find out. WOW! That is sweet. This could probably give diabetics a contact high. There is a woodiness, and then sweet. A hint of pepper, then just sugar syrup. Mouthfeel is syrupy with nice carbonation. Drinkability is just going to depend on you. Do you like your pancakes to be nothing but large sediment in a vat of light corn syrup? Then you're good. For me, not so much. It's like Jane Austen's "Persuasion". You want to experience all the legend has to offer, and now you have so you don't have to drink, er read, it again.

Serving type: bottle

12-26-2010 21:14:24 | More by roblowther
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Rayek

Colorado

3.18/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From a 2007 vintage bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Garnet tinged amber with a big, yet short lived eggshell cap. The head recedes to a ring at the beer's edge and leaves no lace.

S: Sweet and boozy. Brown sugar, caramel and toffee do most of the aroma work. A hefty dose of alcohol provides balance to the sweet and a powerful tingle to the nostrils.

T: Extremely sweet out of the gate. Brown sugar and toffee dominate. Bitterness is minimal and has just a bit of pepper to it. Alcohol adds a ton of heat and helps balance the sweet flavors. The brown sugar lingers through the finish. The beer ends very hot.

M: The medium-heavy body is super syrupy and has light carbonation.

D: Um....yeah. This beer is too over the top for its own good. The extreme alcohol heat and cloying sweetness make this beer a night cap at best.

Serving type: bottle

12-23-2010 04:33:40 | More by Rayek
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bruachan

District of Columbia

4.08/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

foam started off well but didn't stand a chance. excellent copper hue

highly concentrated sweetishraisin aromas and a good alcohol push. surprisingly delicate hop nose

certainly tastes hot...but 14% hot? not really (well...11%-12%). more malt flavors from the raisin part of the spectrum. concentrated lager malts produce a wealth of tasty sugars, not the cool nutty flavors you look might for in a bock but hot 'n fruity. i sense toasty as the drink progresses. unkahaul puts some air under the hops' wings

it's been a long time since i tasted the "dunkel" version, but i would love to taste them side by side

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2010 03:16:38 | More by bruachan
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DaveHS

California

3.45/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Vintage 2007, poured into a tasting snifter.

A-Pours the color of golden raisins with no head or lacing.

S-Sweet and malty. Slightly phenolic.

T/M-Raisin sweetness, caramel, boozy sweetness. Very little carbonation. One dimensional. This benefits from 3 years in the bottle. I don't care for it fresh.

D-Not up to the standard set by regular Samichlaus, but it's worth trying with a few years on it.

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2010 04:38:26 | More by DaveHS
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JayS2629

Alabama

4.63/5  rDev +23.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is very similar to the original samichlaus but sweeter and lighter.

A- Red amber with little head.

S- Brown sugar with notes of cherry and cinamon. Hints of vanilla.

T- Caramel and toffee with hints of vanilla and cherry. Some cinamon. Raw sugar.

M- Sticky and creamy. Almost cloying.

D- Strong but alcohol well hidden. Definitely a sipping beer. Slightly easier to drink that the original. Lighter and alcohol masked better. Sweeter.

Serving type: bottle

11-10-2010 17:53:44 | More by JayS2629
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geokills

California

4.08/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured out a bottle dated 2007, the burnt amber fluid produced minimal head, with a very slight ring of retention. Exceptionally sweet malty smell coaxes me to imbibe this strong doppelbock. Surprisingly at 14% abv, the alcohol has mellowed very well through the years to produce a sweet, slightly cloying and full bodied concoction balanced with good carbonation. Slightly sticky but by and large, very enjoyable for a beer of such potency.

Serving type: bottle

11-07-2010 23:50:27 | More by geokills
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AgentMunky

California

4.08/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 33cL bottle into a pilsner glass.

A: Red amber. No head or bubbles. Just plain pretty.

S: Sour grapes or cranberries, almost like wine verging on vinegar. Strong alcohol with sweet undertones.

T: Strongly, sweetly spicy; lighter than the Samichlaus Classic. The main body is sweet -- peach, apricot, sweet cherries, raw sugar -- but with touches of carbonation and spices (cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamon?). The aftertaste is sweet, long, and kind of sticky.

M: Too sticky for me. Not quite cloying, but almost.

D: Too sweet and too strong to be drinkable, but still really good. Highly recommended, but not as good as the Classic.

Serving type: bottle

11-07-2010 19:42:23 | More by AgentMunky
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Swill5786

Kentucky

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2007... 14% ABV...

Pours an apricot-shade of orange... Minimal head, quickly fades. Carbonation tosses the yeast about for a few minutes before it settles down. Nose of a great doppelbock... Alcohol content clearly high, doing a good job hiding spicy hops. Picking up complexity of aromas: Raisins, plums, cherries, apples. Sweet start with fruity nose making a strong showing in the taste. Carbonation is decent throughout. Alcohol creates a bitterness in the finish, but becomes clandestine, showing up under a pleasant, bready aftertaste. Medium body. Alcohol presence increases slightly with warming. Drink one and you'll be good to go.

Serving type: bottle

11-06-2010 03:11:39 | More by Swill5786
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jrrs

California

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

i am glad i got a chance to drink this, and would have another in the future, but i prefer regular Samichlaus.

got it at Ledger's Liqour in berkeley. they have them refrigerated and the labels are pretty moldy but who cares. iirc the bottling was 2008.

Serving type: bottle

10-25-2010 21:53:46 | More by jrrs
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bucklemyshoe

Georgia

3.25/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz. bottle at 42* into a snifter.

A: This pours a clear, dark-red color with no head to speak of.

S: It is mostly overtaken by alcohol but there are notes of cherry, raisins, and sugary caramel.

T: It consists of cherry, figs, brown sugar, and lots of alcohol.

M: This is very sweet without being very thick. Strange.

D: If this had only 10-11% abv, I think it would be much better.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2010 06:33:25 | More by bucklemyshoe
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feloniousmonk

Minnesota

4.28/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I didn't even know this existed, until I saw someone order it at the bar I'm marooned at while the rain pours down. So, here I go, a drinkin'...

Clear amber color, smallish white head, stick around a bit...

Aroma: clean and lightly fruity, peach and apple, apricot and herbs...

Drink it already!....Boom! Big fat malt, huge fruity flavor, little hops, nothing but enormous malt and alcohol. Slick, sweet, clean. Yum. Light bodied, lean, sweet, malty lager....way over-sized booze. Incredible, formidable, intense. Burning fruit roasts the palate, clean and mean, ...yum, and hot! yum, and fierce! yum, and POW!

Mmmm, all 14 % blonde doppelbocks should be this good!

Serving type: bottle

09-23-2010 04:13:25 | More by feloniousmonk
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Cylinsier

Pennsylvania

3.98/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bottle

Pours a light amber gold, thin white head retains as a lacing.

The smell is almost sugar sweet, with notes of apple and caramel and a hint on the acidic side.

Taste is very sweet like overripe fruit. There is a heavy alcohol taste as well.

Feels moderate to full, tingly carbonation in the back of the throat and on the tip of the tongue. Warms going down.

Fairly similar to the other Samichlaus, but sweeter and lighter, maybe bordering on too sweet. I prefer the other, but this beer is an experience not to be taken lightly, worth trying at least once to say you did.

Serving type: bottle

08-30-2010 22:18:51 | More by Cylinsier
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BeardedBoffin

New Mexico

1.43/5  rDev -61.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

This hefty brew was delivered in a 33 cl brown vessel. The beer poured a handsome amber color, but the is completely devoid of foam, due to the high alcohol content I suppose.

The aroma charges into the nasal passages like something from a bygone war. Heavily scented with sweetly fermenting grains--not rotten, but not far from it. The thought of high-protein cattle feed is also triggered by the waft. The booze is inescapable. The aroma bursts forth into flavor on the palate evincing a wince from this taste tester. Everything the nose foretold is here, recklessly floundering about, before it signs off with a big boozy burn.

I am able to enjoy a malt bomb. The more barleywine, the better, I always say. But I am having trouble locating anything positive about the taste profile of this malty brew. After the first sip, I braved one more, but then could not continue. The label proudly boasts, "The world's most extraordinary beverage". I, for one, would use a different adjective.

Serving type: bottle

08-16-2010 22:31:16 | More by BeardedBoffin
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psychoanesthesia

Virginia

1.3/5  rDev -65.3%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

This beer is terrible.

It's the color of apple juice. Or urine. No head due to high alcohol content.

It smells like caramelized sugar, rotten apples and/or other similar fruits, and alcohol.

It tastes like it smells. Cloyingly sweet, rotten tasting; overall, very offensive. The alcohol warmth doesn't help. This beer is all malt - the little bitterness it does have is from the alcohol. The first time I drank this beer I was convinced I had purchased a bad bottle. So I drank another one to confirm. Yup, it's that bad alright! One dimension to this beer, folks - crap.

Mouthfeel is kinda like lightly carbonated vomit - slick, thick, and unpleasant. Drinkability is poor due mainly to the fact that it tastes bad and has 14% alcohol. It's lightly carbonated, so that helps the drinkability, I guess.

The original Samichlaus is actually very good (as is Samichlaus Helles's cheaper counterpart, the Urbock 23), so I would emphatically recommend avoiding this beer.

Serving type: bottle

07-29-2010 21:36:30 | More by psychoanesthesia
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cpetrone84

Pennsylvania

3.33/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Not sure if this is the right beer but I have a 14% abv. bottle that says Samichlaus on it. It is brewed only once a year on Dec. 6th after being aged for 10 months.

A-the beer pours a dark copper color with red edges. the head is tan colored but very thin and almost not existent dissipating immediately.

S-the nose is extremely sweet, tons of brown sugar and carmelized candy notes. hints of dark cherries and some ripe plum, notes of bourbon in the finish.

T-the taste is extremely sweet. carmelized brown sugar, tons of candied sugar, notes of caramel malt, some dark cherries, fig, and ripe plum and set underneath all of the sugar. this is huge flavor but so sweet.

M-extremely smooth and o so syrupy. this is full bodied, thick and viscous. a little low on carbonation to lack a strong finish and actually slightly astringent pucking the lips somewhat.

D-this is just too sweet to really enjoy. it has some nice flavors; but all of the sugar and sweetness in this make it almost difficult to drink. the huge abv is hidden very well, however.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2010 15:52:25 | More by cpetrone84
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Schwarzwald

Tennessee

3.38/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This is a surprising beer. Very high ABV but it is very hard to notice through the taste. I like the sweetness of plum and raisin, but there is a little depth missing for me. It has a lot of flavor, but maybe not the right flavor for me. I wish it had a little smokiness and/or oakiness, might be just what it needs. Now, don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, I am just looking for perfection out of "The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage".

High ABV = 11%

Definitely give it a try though!

Serving type: bottle

07-26-2010 22:03:59 | More by Schwarzwald
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sinistermadman

Oregon

3.43/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2007
Pours a copper color with a slight head that dissipates immediately. Faint aroma of caramel, malt, but not too much of note.

Taste is a somewhat sweet with a warming alcohol undercurrent. Negligible carbonation and a slick, watery mouthfeel do little to excite the palate. Drinkability is respectable at 12%, but alcohol is noticeable as the brew warms. Worth a try, but I wouldn't seek it out.

Serving type: bottle

06-19-2010 23:46:27 | More by sinistermadman
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coalcracker

Pennsylvania

2.98/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Bottled in 2007. Pours a slightly cloudy golden color with carbonation quickly settling down.
Smell: Aroma is sweet with notes of dark fruits (eg raisin, currant, a little black licorice).
Taste: Very sweet at the onset with those dark fruits building mid-taste. Very sweet indeed, almost cloying. A mild alcohol warmth presents at the end, but overall is fairly well-hidden despite a 14% abv.
Mouthfeel: Fairly thick and chewy mouthfeel- as a doppelbock should be.
Drinkability: A sipper at 14%. Between this and its sweetness, a fast consumption would be foolhardy.

Overall: A bit too sweet for me. OK brew. Able to finish the bottle, but will not be thirsting for another anytime soon.

Serving type: bottle

05-09-2010 00:01:20 | More by coalcracker
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MrHassellYaHurd

Louisiana

3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Samichlaus Helles pours into a tulip glass a beautifully clear copper/orange. Tiny bubbles laze to the surface, just beneath a thin wispy white head which rapidly becomes but a ring around the edge of the glass.

The smell is a densely packed bouquet of sugary-sweet candies, raisins, bananas, and a bit of oranges over a strong malty backbone.

The taste is super sweet as well, with strong banana and malt prominence. Through the intensely sweet and syrupy-thick mouthfeel, the 14% of alcohol rapidly warms the mouth and throat. It is similar to drinking a sweet pastry (lol). Drinkability, for me, is less than ideal. The alcohol is a tad harsh, and the sweetness is near cloying.

Serving type: bottle

04-28-2010 03:51:50 | More by MrHassellYaHurd
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Parrotbeak

Minnesota

3.88/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear, bubbly light orange with almost no head, save for a white, bubbly ring around the perimeter.
Smell is strong, sweet malts. Caramel, sugar, and some dark fruit--plums, figs, and raisins. Alcohol is assertive, bringing some heat to the nose.
Taste is syrupy sweet malts that are slightly bready. Sugar, molasses, figs, and raisins come in as well. Surprisingly, the alcohol is fairly well concealed in the taste.
Mouthfeel has a little bit of bite to it--not nearly as flat as I was expecting it to be, indicating a low-to-moderate level of carbonation. Still, it's slightly sticky, and the alcohol brings some heat to the tongue and throat.
For a sipper, this one is good. As noted, the alcohol is well-concealed, and it's an easy one to sip on.

Serving type: bottle

04-05-2010 00:56:20 | More by Parrotbeak
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mdfb79

New York

3.08/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass. Bottled in 2007.

a - Pours a murky orangish/amber color with low carbonation and about a half inch of white head that quickly leaves.

s - Smells of sweet, dark fruits including plums, raisins, and maybe cherries. Also some oak, malts, and booze, although not as much as I was expecting considering it is 14% ABV.

t - Dark fruits, booze, malts, some spices, and maybe a tiny bit of chocolate even. The alcohol was a lot more prominent in the taste than it was in the nose.

m - Medium body with low carbonation. Some alcohol warmth, but not as much as you'd think considering it's 14% ABV.

d - Middle of the road for me. I enojoyed the smell more than the taste, as the alcohol came out a little too much in the taste and feel to me. I have one bottle left that is in my cellar that I plan on holding onto for a few years to see what happens, but right now I wouldn't look to drink it again.

Serving type: bottle

03-22-2010 23:59:37 | More by mdfb79
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Proteus93

Virginia

3.35/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Finally picked up the Helles, though I have had the other several times. It seemed about time. This was a 2007 brew.

A: Honey golden, nice and clear, though head struggles to form, and is quite bubbly and soapy when it does. The alcohol content is likely to blame for it, but it's worth noting.

S + T: Malty sweetness, some notes of fruitiness - a little fig and the like. Quite a notable alcohol aroma, and it's actually probably one of the biggest scents. The flavour is very similar, also with a bit of a papery note. Overall, it comes across a little more boozy than flavourful.

M + D: Body is a little thin, but fairly hot, giving it a chemical-quality... it's not horribly bad, but it doesn't seem to perform as well as its equally strong brother. I don't know if I'd readily go back for another... it seemed to lack some of the complexity that the other can showcase, and was something of a disappointment, ultimately.

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2010 01:05:17 | More by Proteus93
Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
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