Samichlaus Bier Helles - Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Reviews: 222
Hads: 375
rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 12.06%
Wants: 21
Gots: 54 | FT: 0
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Austria

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  14.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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Photo of kawilliams81
4/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a 16 oz. snifter.

A- Light copper in color with little-to-no head or lacing.

S- Sweet candi sugar, booze, dark fruits, leather.

T- Candi sugar and alcohol very present off the bat. Dark fruits are present in the middle and finish along with more sweet and alcohol.

M- Medium bodied, which is surprising for 14%. Fairly smooth for the abv, and leaves you with a slight tingling/effervesence finish.

O- Very different beer. It's so sweet and is almost difficult to drink the whole bottle. Although it is a 07' vintage, and drinks smooth for the abv. (562 characters)

Photo of JerryOdom
3.72/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

As advertised on the bottle this guy is intense in it's sweetness. For me it was like an overly sweet candy so much so that it masked the alcohol you'd expect to experience in a 15% abv drink. I'd rate it lower if it weren't exactly what the brewer was aiming for but I can't be too generous because it's not for me. They really mean it when they say intense sweetness so if you're not a candy sort of person pass on this. (422 characters)

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a snifter)
2010 on bottle
A- This beer pours a crystal clear deep orange hue with a bubbly snow white head and a good carbonation of microbubbles

S- The smell of fresh sweet pale malt and wort has a bit of a husky note to it and a yeasty ester finish that smells like pencil lead.

T- The big sweet candy wort has some fruity ester character to follow and a dry finish. There is a hone malt sweetness and a touch of bitterness in the finish that come through as the beer warms.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a very warm alcohol character in the finish.

O- The big sweetness and big alcohol balance into a delicious beer candy with nice fresh wort flavors. As the beer warms a bit too much it gets fusel heat but that is only the last few sips. (771 characters)

Photo of BierFan
3.97/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from an 11.2 ounce bottle.

Thin head that disappears almost completely in about a minute. Bronze colored body. Tons of caramel in the nose. Taste of caramel, grape skin, and a little bit of apple. Kinda tart in the finish. The alcohol is there but not as noticeable as you would expect from a 14% beer. (310 characters)

Photo of Wetpaperbag
4.2/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 vintage

First off, this one popped open with some super fizz. I wonder if this has any infection.

A- The head faded quickly, with no activity in the glass. The beer itself is crystal clear. Looks like that of a great port that has just the slightest pink tone to it.

S- Dark fruits, port, various fruity wine, subtle alcohol.

T- This is sweet tasting. Tastes just like a sweet wine mixed with a port. That truly is how this one stacks up. There is a small carbonation to this, and it helps the flavors along. The alcohol does have a good burn for sure, like spicy salsa on the lips.

M- Good feel, not too thick, but just the right feel.

O- Tasty, great flavors, lots of complexity. I'm glad I picked this up. I'll have to pick up another one when I get the chance. (777 characters)

Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.6/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I've had the dark Samichlaus sitting at home in Sydney for a while, but it is yet to be reviewed. I would have liked to have tried it first, but I picked up the Helles in San Francisco and it didn't make the cut to come back in my luggage.

Hence, I'll drink it now.

Pours a hot and still devilish orange colour, with bubbling only because I forced a very aggressive pour. After these fizzle out it sits entirely flat and dormant in the glass. Looks very dangerous.

Nose is malty and sweet, with a twang of chemical acetone and a boozy note like brandy-soaked dried fruit. Smells extremely spiritous, heavy and malevolent. I think this will be a challenge to my bruised palate.

Taste is surprisingly supple and smooth, and doesn't have the spiritous alcohol burn I feared. Instead, it's just incredibly sweet and heavy, with the alcoholic flavour providing the balance in what other styles would be given by hop bitterness. Very port-like, smooth front, big vinous sweetness and a flick of booze in the tail.

Feel is very smooth and coating, but surprisingly slick as well.

Still, this is a beer of which it is difficult to drink more than a very small glass. Even without the potential burn, it's incredibly heavy and potent.

Yes, it's something I'm glad I tried, and I'll look forward to comparing it to the original Samichlaus—but I'm pleased the experience is over. (1,377 characters)

Photo of bobhits
2.02/5  rDev -45.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

Pours a lighter reddish color. At first I think it could be another amazingly clear beer, but this is cloudy and has some floaters, good thing considering this is a 2007 bottle. There was a very cheap white head that vanished in moments.

The hop profile here is a bit….bad for the malt mix. It just starts off sour and wrong. A bit of air and the malt takes back control and the hops are long gone. Still redish off putting smell. Earthy hops and cheap pale malts. With some air on it a bit better, still a sweet mess of aromas and alcohol with an odd hop finish i don't like.

This is a new type of beer to me. Not the English barely wine I’ve had and yet doesn’t really come off as say an imperial pale. Alcohol earthy and sharp hops and a bland as the world could be malt. I like (forget who said this) but the comment about this being like rock candy in the malt. It’s sweet, it isn’t really sugar cane clean, but darn rock candy is about as close as you can get.

Thick, a touch of carbonation, and even at over 3 years of age still alcohol dominate.

This bottle was about 5 dollars. I cannot express how over priced that is given this beers qualities. The classic Samichlaus has many qualities that make me certain age will improve it. It has some darn nice effects. This is just alcohol and sweetness to say “look how big I am.” The reason this beer was last brewed and bottled in the 80’s is because there wasn’t anyone begging for more. (1,469 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
3.1/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This has a pretty surprising color for a Doppelbock, This beer has a very nice honey golden color with a head that fades rather quickley. The 14% abv is hardly hidden in my opinion. It's a strong tasting beer, as it should be I just don't know how much I enjoy the flavors the Helles gives off. The mouthfeel of this is on the thicker side. Nothing too heavy but not watery either. Personally i like the darker version much better but thats in the eye of the beholder. (468 characters)

Photo of AmericanGothic
4.35/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into Unibroue tulip. 2007 vintage.

A Beautiful light amber honey color. Lively carbonation, two finger off-white head subsides slowly. Barely any lace.

S: Mellow yeasty bread notes, sweet, dark fruits.

T: Oh, wow. Is this beer, or port? Fantastic sweetness balanced by fruits (raisins, prunes, a little banana and currants) and some accompanying spice-- cinnamon and clove. Delicious, light caramel. Alcohol present but not objectionable.

M: Just enough carbonation to remind you this is truly beer, medium body, smooth, slightly oily.

D: A slow sipper for sure, no hurry to go through this, will last a while.

An old friend raves and raves about this, so I had to try it. Good recommendation, for my tastebuds. Intense, but refined. If you want to know what beer tastes like 5,000 feet above barleywine, this is it. (845 characters)

Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

11.2 oz. Bottle
Bottled In: 2007

Pours a very nice clean/clear golden color, very nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, sweet, nice little spice note, and caramel. The taste is sweet, malty, alittle spicy, with some nice caramel notes. Medium Body. Very Drinkable, this one is very tasty, a true delight. Thanks Ben. (438 characters)

Photo of plfahey
3.31/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance-Medium gold color, brilliant clarity. Very thin off-white head with low retention. Shows some legs.

Aroma-Pale, bready malts. Very light dried fruit (raisins) aroma and whiff of alcohol.

Flavor-Rich malt and fruit flavors-sweet up front with notes of bread and toast. Raisins, plums, and other fruit flavors definitely present. Alcohol presence is large, and is at times hot/solventy.

Mouthfeel-Medium full, moderately low carbonation. Definite alcohol warmth.

This one might smooth out after a couple years, but fresh, the alcohol is just too hot. Boozy, and not very sneaky about it. There are some good notes, but the alcohol is too much. (698 characters)

Photo of bonkers
3.23/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I poured from a 11.2 ounce bottle, 2009, into a snifter. The color is medium caramel with a fizzy 1 inch white head, no lacing. The aroma is sweet with lots of astringent alcohol. This beer is very sweet and has very hot alcohol, kinda out of balance. It finishes with dates and raisins. The body is medium and the carbonation is good. IMO this is a mess, too much alcohol, very overpowering. Maybe lay it down for a year, but I will not buy it again. (451 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.13/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

"The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage."

--label

Bottled in 2007 (the first since 1986). Radiant tangerine with barely one finger of ivory colored cream created on the high-altitude pour. Guess we can blame the high ABV and the lack of hop resins for the diminutive crown... that is now nearly gone. Needless to day, no lace is seen on the snifter.

The nose makes almost no impact. At least not of a positive nature. Each sniff delivers very lightly toasted pale grains with a surprisingly subtle contribution from ethanol. Not sure what the flavor hook is going to be.

Samichlaus Helles tastes like a higher-quality malt liquor. In fact, is says 'malt liquor' right there on the label. Yeah, probably just some government regulation or some such. It's definitely sweet and the alcohol is buried better than expected.

As feared, there isn't much here to get excited about from a flavor standpoint. Tons of dark malts (big stouts) and tons of hops (IPAs) are right in my wheelhouse, but tons of pale malt has never really done it for me. Specifics include rock candy, lightly toasted bread soaked in sugar syrup, and a splash of honey (mead-like). Simple as a stone.

The mouthfeel finds that sweet-spot between big enough and not too big. It's fullish and lush without being ponderous, and the bubbles are finely spritzy... which works because they're softened by all the malt sugars.

Samichlaus Helles, in my humble opinion, is light years away from being the world's most extraordinary beverage. It's a decent sipper if you're into high-octane beer, but that's where it ends. I'm okay if Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg wants to wait another 21 years between bottlings. (1,674 characters)

Photo of cindyjeffsmith
4.52/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2007 Vintage
appearance: Similar to the 08' Samichlaus. Light copper with a very slight head. Decent lacing though.
smell: Yum. More butter and spicy goodness.
taste: Not quite up to the bottle of 08' I had a few weeks back but quite de-lish make no mistake. Toffee and light spice.
drinkability: Amazed at how smooth this monster is. (336 characters)

Photo of dstc
4.3/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a beautiful, deep copper color. Off-white head falls to nothing. Thinnest if lace.

Aroma is all malt and very sweet. Alcohol comes through as well.

Taste mimics the aroma with heavy malts and big sweetness. No real hops to be found. Boozy and sweet in the finish.

Medium to full bodied mouthfeel with low carbonation and a warming alcohol bite.

Wow, great malt bomb. This stuff is very nice. Try it. (413 characters)

Photo of roblowther
2.88/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Helles or doppelbock? I'm confused but I'm ok with that. Pours golden amber, clear and bubbly, with a head that quickly settles into a thin off-white covering. Smells like candied oranges, caramel, and a slight nuttiness. It smells good but like it may be too sweet. Let's find out. WOW! That is sweet. This could probably give diabetics a contact high. There is a woodiness, and then sweet. A hint of pepper, then just sugar syrup. Mouthfeel is syrupy with nice carbonation. Drinkability is just going to depend on you. Do you like your pancakes to be nothing but large sediment in a vat of light corn syrup? Then you're good. For me, not so much. It's like Jane Austen's "Persuasion". You want to experience all the legend has to offer, and now you have so you don't have to drink, er read, it again. (802 characters)

Photo of Rayek
3.2/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From a 2007 vintage bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Garnet tinged amber with a big, yet short lived eggshell cap. The head recedes to a ring at the beer's edge and leaves no lace.

S: Sweet and boozy. Brown sugar, caramel and toffee do most of the aroma work. A hefty dose of alcohol provides balance to the sweet and a powerful tingle to the nostrils.

T: Extremely sweet out of the gate. Brown sugar and toffee dominate. Bitterness is minimal and has just a bit of pepper to it. Alcohol adds a ton of heat and helps balance the sweet flavors. The brown sugar lingers through the finish. The beer ends very hot.

M: The medium-heavy body is super syrupy and has light carbonation.

D: Um....yeah. This beer is too over the top for its own good. The extreme alcohol heat and cloying sweetness make this beer a night cap at best. (830 characters)

Photo of bruachan
4.1/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

foam started off well but didn't stand a chance. excellent copper hue

highly concentrated sweetishraisin aromas and a good alcohol push. surprisingly delicate hop nose

certainly tastes hot...but 14% hot? not really (well...11%-12%). more malt flavors from the raisin part of the spectrum. concentrated lager malts produce a wealth of tasty sugars, not the cool nutty flavors you look might for in a bock but hot 'n fruity. i sense toasty as the drink progresses. unkahaul puts some air under the hops' wings

it's been a long time since i tasted the "dunkel" version, but i would love to taste them side by side (613 characters)

Photo of DaveHS
3.45/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Vintage 2007, poured into a tasting snifter.

A-Pours the color of golden raisins with no head or lacing.

S-Sweet and malty. Slightly phenolic.

T/M-Raisin sweetness, caramel, boozy sweetness. Very little carbonation. One dimensional. This benefits from 3 years in the bottle. I don't care for it fresh.

D-Not up to the standard set by regular Samichlaus, but it's worth trying with a few years on it. (404 characters)

Photo of JayS2629
4.65/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is very similar to the original samichlaus but sweeter and lighter.

A- Red amber with little head.

S- Brown sugar with notes of cherry and cinamon. Hints of vanilla.

T- Caramel and toffee with hints of vanilla and cherry. Some cinamon. Raw sugar.

M- Sticky and creamy. Almost cloying.

D- Strong but alcohol well hidden. Definitely a sipping beer. Slightly easier to drink that the original. Lighter and alcohol masked better. Sweeter. (444 characters)

Photo of geokills
4.08/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured out a bottle dated 2007, the burnt amber fluid produced minimal head, with a very slight ring of retention. Exceptionally sweet malty smell coaxes me to imbibe this strong doppelbock. Surprisingly at 14% abv, the alcohol has mellowed very well through the years to produce a sweet, slightly cloying and full bodied concoction balanced with good carbonation. Slightly sticky but by and large, very enjoyable for a beer of such potency. (441 characters)

Photo of AgentMunky
4.05/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 33cL bottle into a pilsner glass.

A: Red amber. No head or bubbles. Just plain pretty.

S: Sour grapes or cranberries, almost like wine verging on vinegar. Strong alcohol with sweet undertones.

T: Strongly, sweetly spicy; lighter than the Samichlaus Classic. The main body is sweet -- peach, apricot, sweet cherries, raw sugar -- but with touches of carbonation and spices (cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamon?). The aftertaste is sweet, long, and kind of sticky.

M: Too sticky for me. Not quite cloying, but almost.

D: Too sweet and too strong to be drinkable, but still really good. Highly recommended, but not as good as the Classic. (643 characters)

Photo of Swill5786
3.52/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2007... 14% ABV...

Pours an apricot-shade of orange... Minimal head, quickly fades. Carbonation tosses the yeast about for a few minutes before it settles down. Nose of a great doppelbock... Alcohol content clearly high, doing a good job hiding spicy hops. Picking up complexity of aromas: Raisins, plums, cherries, apples. Sweet start with fruity nose making a strong showing in the taste. Carbonation is decent throughout. Alcohol creates a bitterness in the finish, but becomes clandestine, showing up under a pleasant, bready aftertaste. Medium body. Alcohol presence increases slightly with warming. Drink one and you'll be good to go. (641 characters)

Photo of jrrs
3.53/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

i am glad i got a chance to drink this, and would have another in the future, but i prefer regular Samichlaus.

got it at Ledger's Liqour in berkeley. they have them refrigerated and the labels are pretty moldy but who cares. iirc the bottling was 2008. (253 characters)

Photo of bucklemyshoe
3.27/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz. bottle at 42* into a snifter.

A: This pours a clear, dark-red color with no head to speak of.

S: It is mostly overtaken by alcohol but there are notes of cherry, raisins, and sugary caramel.

T: It consists of cherry, figs, brown sugar, and lots of alcohol.

M: This is very sweet without being very thick. Strange.

D: If this had only 10-11% abv, I think it would be much better. (392 characters)

Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
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