ZiegenBock Amber - Anheuser-Busch

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363 Ratings
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Ratings: 363
Reviews: 127
rAvg: 2.81
pDev: 22.42%
Wants: 6
Gots: 32 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Missouri, United States

Style | ABV
American Amber / Red Lager |  4.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
Brewed in Houston, ZiegenBock is a beer of the South. Only available in Texas, this American-style amber lager, offers notes of roasted grains in the aroma and a sweet, smooth taste with a hop finish. The select imported hops and specialty malts create a taste worthy of a 2006 Great American Beer Festival Bronze Medal.

(Beer added by: kbub6f on 04-24-2002)
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Photo of Sammy
2.93/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Macro brewery, however this is underrated in that it is more than a passable brew. Light colour, creamy in mouth, light mouthfeel. Aroma a bit cheesy negative. Drinkable. Some bitterness in finish. Not really a bock. Thanks Grub for something new and different.

Photo of spycow
2.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Photo of Texasfan549
2.5/5  rDev -11%

Photo of kjkinsey
3/5  rDev +6.8%

Photo of jaydoc
2.5/5  rDev -11%

Photo of mikesgroove
2.8/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I had seen this on shelves for a couple years, but had never gotten around to trying it, so I decided to give it a shot last night and see what it was about. I served the 12o bottle straight out of the fridge and poured it into a Pint glass. The pour was decent, with a bright, honey colored amber with amazing clarity and lots of carbonation bubbling up from the bottom of the glass. A good sized two finger head of white froth jumped up right after the pour, however it settled down rather quickly and I did not see much of it after that. Really did not leave behind much of anything.

The aroma was non existent, mostly just dull grain and wheat and a touch of rice. Nothing really much going on here, the flavor was more of the same. Unfortunately it was just dull and boring, and that was quite a shame. Hints of rice and cereal grains, and a sickly sweet ginger soda like flavor were all that I could really make it from this one. A good bit of carbonation in it and as for a beer you could chug down in quantity, in that regards it was not half bad.

Overall It was just too bland for me, nothing really going on with it. Could be worse though, and still better then ,most of the macro stuff you see.

Photo of NeroFiddled
3.9/5  rDev +38.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As I understand it, ZiegenBock Amber is only sold in Texas; and is probably intended to compete with Shiner Bock. Neither beer is particularly exciting (nor a bock), and to be honest I didn't see alot of either one during my recent trip to Austin (of course, Austin's weird!) but...

ZiegenBock is a dark, crimson-accented copper in the glass. The head is just slightly darker than bone-white, and holds well. It even leaves some nice lacing behind.

The aroma is lightly malty with a touch of sweet dark caramel and a hint of chocolate in the background. The limited hops can barely make their way through, but they're seeming grassy and floral.

The flavor is similar to the aroma, but fuller. The malt is softly sweet with a supple dark caramel character that's just enough to keep you coming back for more, and the spicy and floral hops balance it nicely. A firm bitterness keeps it centered from the start, and ushers in a refreshing, dry finish the lingers gently with a sweetish drop of darkened sugar.

Nicely done! Very drinkable in flavor, balance, and body. You could easily have quite a few of these during a night out with the boys if you were just interested in throwin' 'em back.

Photo of Mora2000
2.58/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Medium to dark, clear brown with a tan head. The aroma is grain and lightly toasted malt with not too much else going on. The flavor is a little bit of dark fruit with a lot of grain, toasted malt and some grass notes. Thin mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Not offensive, but a relatively flavorless beer with no real exciting qualities.

Photo of kojevergas
2.18/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Ah, Anheuser-Busch's attempt to compete with Shiner Bock. Cute. 12 fl oz brown glass bottle with twist-off pressure cap and nice label art acquired a few minutes ago at my local cornerstore and served into an Independence Brewing pilsner glass in me gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are low given the brewery. Reviewed as an amber; it never commits to whether or not it's a bock or an amber on the label, but further research reveals it's an amber.

A Texas exclusive.

Actually, it's important to note the epithet is actually quite clever: "Ziegenbock" means "Billy Goat" in Deutsch. Anheuser-Busch gets to call the beer a name that would make the average Texan think it's like Shiner when really it's an amber. Very clever indeed. Hat tip to the marketing cats over at Anheuser-Busch.

Served cold, straight from the cornerstore's fridge. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as I pour.

Pours a one finger wide head of light khaki colour. Average creaminess and thickness. No lacing as the head recedes. Head retention is below average - ~1-2 minutes.

Body colour is a textbook copper; clear, dark, and translucent. No yeast particles are visible. Vibrance is below average, but I wouldn't call it dull per se.

It looks a lot better than I anticipated, but is poor for an amber. It definitely looks like an amber lager-meets-bock.

Sm: Um. Clean barley. Grains, maybe? The aroma is so muted and light I don't get hardly anything from it. Very reticent and closed off. Wow, that's bland. Even Budweiser has adjunct and barley. This is unbelievably unevocative.

No hop character, yeast character, alcohol, or really any malt character is detectable.

Muted is better than off-putting.

T: Caramalt, grains, barley, maybe some adjunct. Plenty of malty sweetness. Boy, is this bland. There's just so little going on. Poorly built for an amber (lager). Okay balance; I mean there's generic cohesion of the few notes it has.

Zero hop presence, zero yeast presence, and nearly zero flavour. No complexity or subtlety here. As generic and uninspired a beer as one could brew in this style.

Low depth, duration, and intensity of flavour. A very neutral beer, but an inoffensive one.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Overcarbonated. Poor presence on the palate. Thick; lightly syrupy. Entirely too overbearing for the lack of flavour. Poor execution for the style, but I guess it kind of suits the flavour profile in that it matches its blandness.

Not oily, gushed, hot, or astringent.

Dr: Downable swill. Bland and boring. I won't be trifling with this again, but you could do worse than bland. I mean, it's not Chelada. In fairness, you could pound a pitcher of this on a night out with the lads without any issues, but the sweetness does get to you. Let's be glad this doesn't make it out of Texas. I can't see this luring Shiner devotees away, but maybe the clever marketing is working. I do love that aspect of the beer, but unfortunately everything else is subpar. Not recommended. I'd probably take an adjunct lager over this at the local bar; at least they have more flavour.

D

Photo of dbrauneis
2.58/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Served on tap at Austin Bergstrom International Airport (AUS)

A: Pours a clear very dark amber in color with light amounts of garnet red and brown highlights when held up to the light and moderate amounts of visible carbonation. The beer has a finger tall off-white head that quickly reduces to a very thin ring at the edges of the glass. Minimal amounts of lacing are observed.

S: The overall smell is quite sweet for this beer and malty with some hints of caramel, toffee, and molasses.

T: Very similar to the smell with moderate sweet malty flavors including hints of caramel, toffee, and molasses. Very light amounts of bitterness in the finish.

M: Medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation.

O: Overall there was nothing really special about this beer and it is not one I would recommend - if you want a pseudo-bock beer and are in TX, I would recommend Shiner over this.

Photo of woodychandler
2.53/5  rDev -10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

This arrives with a nice, thick, off-white head above a deep mahogany color. There was not much evident on the nose, maybe a light maltiness, but nothing to really speak of. It has a rich, creamy mouthfeel, but not a lot of taste. The finish is light and sweet, but again, there is just not a whole lot of flavor evident. This was all very disappointing for something that they are calling a bock, regardless of style. Even as a lager, I would expect to taste SOMETHING! Oh, well.

Photo of LXIXME
2.88/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

When poured from an inch or so above the glass yo get a big white head that fades into a small lacing above a clear brown amber colored beer.

A light almost caramel malt aroma, not really enough to encourage a person but there is a little bit there.

A light caramel malt taste pretty much the same thing a Amber Bock by these guys, it really didn't have much aftertaste at all either.

Not really a beer to brag about other than it's from AB and i's one of their better beers, kinda sad.

Photo of mothman
1.88/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Pours a light off white fizzy head. No retention. Color is an amber brown. Clear.

Aroma: Caramel and bready malts. Very lager like. Grassy hops. Corn and grain.

Taste: More like an adjunct lager than a bock. Some caramel and bready malts with some earthy/grassy hops. Grains and corn again.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and bubbly. Light bodied with a high amount of carbonation. Ends dry and malty.

Overall, this wasn't a very good bock. Maybe it's an amber, but still it isn't too good. More like an adjunct lager. Not for me. Too much carbonation. Not very drinkable at all.

? -2-2-1.5-1.5

Photo of John_M
2.5/5  rDev -11%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

It's beers like this that really get me pissed off at AB.

As near as I can tell, this beer is only sold in Texas (lucky Texas), and it was at the airport in Dallas where I ran across a bottle of this swill. Dallas airport (like many/most airports) is a macrobrew heaven, and I was having a difficult time finding anything interesting to drink. For the most part, heineken and corona seemed to be about it.... then I came across this stuff.

I thought I was looking at a bottle of German lager (serves me right for not looking more closely at the label - I actually thought I was buying a German Bock beer), so I thought I'd take a chance.

The beer poured a darkish amber orange color, with no lacing and minimal head retention. There was very little on the nose, just some sweetness from the malt. On the palate the beer wasn't too bad initially, tasting like your run of the mill amber ale. It was fairly sweet with flavors of baked apple and cherry. The beer was pretty light tasting, and as we (I was with a friend) drank it the flavors seemed to drop off more and more. Ultimately the beer came across as pretty watery, leading to disappointment in what I perceived to be the local craft brew scene in Dallas/Texas. At this point I looked more closely at the label, and finally the light went on. I was looking at a local stealth beer from AB (beers made by AB that they market in such a way that customers won't realize right off it's made by AB), which of course explained the poor quality.

Truth be told, this was not the most awful beer I've ever had from AB (with their penchant for making crappy beer, how could it be?), but needless to say I would never have bought the beer to begin with if I had known AB made it. Some day AB may start making flavorful beer (certainly they have the money and know how), but it's unlikely I'll ever give them a chance to win me over. I've been burned far to many times by the likes of ziegenbock, pacific ridge, etc.

Edit from 10/19/11. Was in the Austin airport the other day, and was saddened to see how prevalent this beer has become. A number of bars had signs referring to it as "a taste of Texas," which if I was from Texas would totally piss me off. Almost every place had it on tap and/or bottle; for the most part it was the only option other than the usual BMC macro swill (a few places had shiner bock). Just very, very sad....

Photo of biegaman
2.58/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Bock in its name and weighing in at 4%? Like all other aspects of this beer it is hardly a bock...
Pours like a port appearence - clear, burgundy orange with NO head at all (not even on a hard pour or swirl). Hardly any aroma less a light maple syrop note and some sweetness. The aroma lets on one thing and the taste surprises you with another - completely different! Corn starch, adjuncts - the trademarks of macro! The aftertaste especially heavy on the adjuncts. They were really the only thing in the makeup.
While the smell and looks didn't match up right for a bock, they still were, to some degree anyways, appealing. The flavour and mouthfeel, however, yanked this one right back down to a level I'd expect from AB.
Thanks still Grub!

Photo of dmorgan310
2.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Photo of atrocity
2/5  rDev -28.8%

Photo of ShanePB
2.5/5  rDev -11%

Photo of Latarnik
2.5/5  rDev -11%

Photo of GarthDanielson
2.03/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

A friend of mine brought me back a little mix-pack from Texas. He doesn't know a lot about craft beers, but the sentiment was nice. Poured from a bottle into a shaker pint, the beer is a muddled, clear, light brown coloring with a thin ring of off-white film around the surface. Aromas are subtle, with a blending of roast and sugary caramel sweetness. Flavors are watery at best, with a touch of sweet on the mid-tongue and really nothing else. I mean, there's a dose of carbonation to sharpen up the nothingness. Wow, this is like carbonated water. There's really no aftertaste because there is no taste taste. Maybe a touch of caramel, but that is really reaching. Carbonated and watery in mouth. The finish is light and clean, because there really isn't anything to linger behind. Jesus, this was a stretch to get much of anything out of this one.

Photo of Derek
2.78/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Dark amber with a tan head; very little retention/lace.

S: Slight aroma of floral & spicy hops with a hints of sweetness.

T: Light bready malt flavour is overtaken by sweet corn. Hints of spicy & floral hops.

M: Light to moderate body (not bad for its weight), has some residual sugar; moderate carbonation.

D: It's a lightweight, but it's just not enticing.

Certainly more "American Amber" than "German Bock".

Thanks for sample Grub!

Photo of dirtylou
3.68/5  rDev +31%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Oh Ziegenbock - the house beer at the resort i'm working at this week and a welcomed alternative at Ranger's stadium

maybe the expectations were really low coming to texas, or maybe i just dont mind this beer, but i find the reviews to be ridiculously low

on-tap, numerous samplings. cell phone notes

appearance: dark amber body, bordering on brown, with a creamy beige head and light retention

smell: nutty, caramel malts, grainy and artificially sweet

taste: more than adequate - the best anheuser busch beer i have ever had by far and only available in texas. A smooth caramel-apple flavor profile, nutty and grainy - an amber that exceeds that of many micro efforts

mouthfeel: medium - quaffable

drinkability: just fine

Photo of ccrida
3/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On tap at Cousin's BBQ in the Dallas Airport, poured into a plastic cup, ZiegenBock ("only Texan's get it") is a chill hazed brown with a creamy, egg-shell head.

Smell is very faint, a soft maltiness with a slight hint of caramel. Served cold.

Taste is also very bland, just a bit of toasted malt really, clean with a hint of roast on the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is light and spritzy, with a seltzer like feel.

Drinkability is fine in that this is so neutral tasting, but so damn boring, I'd have to be drinking to get drunk with no other options to have more then one of these.

Photo of Duff27
3/5  rDev +6.8%

Photo of tectactoe
2.25/5  rDev -19.9%

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ZiegenBock Amber from Anheuser-Busch
66 out of 100 based on 363 ratings.