Cuvée Alex Le Rouge (Jurassian Imperial Stout) - BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)

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Cuvée Alex Le Rouge (Jurassian Imperial Stout)Cuvée Alex Le Rouge (Jurassian Imperial Stout)

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Ratings: 233
Reviews: 118
rAvg: 3.64
pDev: 16.48%
Wants: 12
Gots: 24 | FT: 0
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Switzerland

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.28% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Phyl21ca on 01-22-2008

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Photo of jminsc76
2.06/5  rDev -43.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Into a tulip, pours a brownish head atop a dark red body. This is a stout? Not impenetrable like the typical Double Stout.

Aromas seem complex at first, yet nothing distinctly stands out after awhile. Intensity is low and all I am really getting is sweetness from the tea.

Flavors are tangy (!), which alerts me I am potentially drinking an infected bottle. Apparently I am not alone in this assessment from seeing the reviews on both this site and an other. Reminds me of what happened to a bottle of Speedway Stout where I tasted lemons in a beer typically rife with molasses, chocolate, and coffee. So, my assessment may have to wait until I find out what's going on here.

Thin and insubstantial mouthfeel, almost watery.

Overall, people are talking about this as a Swiss interpretation of the Double Stout style? If this bottle is legit (i.e., non-infected), the brewers can keep their interpretation. Seriously, I tasted a slight quantity of tea and pepper, initially some roast, but ultimately it petered out to nothing. Just a thin, watery, dark brown BLEH of bleh bleh-bleh bleh bleh bleh.

Certain people shall hear from me about this, and as I have no vested interest in hating the Swiss (the same brewery's Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien is an excellent Bière de Garde), I will give it another try.

Photo of mrmiles
2.67/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Saw this in the store today and am intrigued. Label says it's a Jurassian Imperial Stout with Black Pepper, Bourbon Vanilla and Tea. Batch 2009. Poured into my St. Bernardus Goblet.

A: Pour is a dark amber brown. Not at all what I would have expected in an imperial stout. No real head. Some foam at the edges.

S: Alcohol hits hard during the pour along with some strong vanilla. A swirl and sniff reveals more of the same. The strong odor of alcohol combined with the vanilla really make this smell like a glass of bourbon. A hint of malt is about the only thing that sets this apart as a beer. Some sour/funk notes present as well.

T: While the alcohol is not nearly as overpowering in the taste as it is in the smell, this beer would still definitely benefit from some aging. Just too hot. It does not taste much like a stout. It reminds me more of a brown ale with a very high abv. The tea adds some uniqueness providing some funk and the black pepper is very faint.

M: Definitely has that pepper tickle at the back of the throat, something I'm not the biggest fan of, but expected in any beer with peppers. Very watery for a stout. Not the usual heavyness. Almost uncarbonated.

D: Still way too hot. Even once mellowed I doubt I'd drink more than one. Way too much going on with it. Not very well integrated.

Overall, I like what they tried here. I really feel like it's more of a brown ale than an Imp Stout, but that's just splitting hairs. I will definitely pick up another and see how it ages as it has a lot of potential to mellow quite nicely. I actually like the use of tea. Not such a big fan of the pepper.

Photo of robertfulwiler
3.01/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

poured from a cold 33cl fliptop bottle.

A- dark, but light still shines through around the edges. tan head with decent head retention.

S- dominant alcohol smell, with dry dark malt.

T- alcohol comes through a lot, along with a pretty strong acidity. Maybe funk? Or just acidity from dark malts.

M- dry for a stout this strong. high carbonation.

D- easier to drink than an oil-thick imperial stout, but for that reason I don't really enjoy it as much.

Photo of laituegonflable
3.88/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

** Pre-review note: I was given this beer blind and my comments reflect my intrinsic enjoyment of the beer. Scores have been scaled down to reflect the fact that this really isn't a very good "imperial stout" - either stylistically or just philosophically, regardless of how much liberty they took with guidelines **

Pours a dark brown colour with a red tinge. Head is lovely and dense, a finger thick with large bubbles. Lace is also beautifully dense and sticky. Looks seductive and impressive.

Smell is rich and tart. Lots of dark berry notes with heavy plum and raisin and blackberry notes. Plus well, wow, it's just red wine-esque. Lots of shiraz plus large amount of black pepper, oak, cocoa hints as well. Pretty appealing.

Taste is quite dark and complex. Much dark fruit on the assault, plummy and jammy with hints of raisins and redcurrants. Gets very vinous midway with red grape skins, dark chocolate and black pepper like you'd get from a good Barossa Shiraz. Yeah, very intriguing and unique flavours, lots of spice and really quite tart. Nutty and oaky notes come through on the back. In fact I think a lot of the vinous notes I'm sensing are just pungent oak. Distinct funk from the same source I believe, sort of a washed-rind cheese character blends with the fruity tart notes very well. Very tasty and complex; I'm definitely feeling it.

Smooth mouthfeel but with an alacrity to it; it just pops and leaps around in the mouth, very nicely.

A very enjoyable and complex brew. Challenging but balanced. A sipper, but a bloody fine sipper.

Photo of Rifugium
3.75/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

First had: on tap at the Belgian Cafe, Philly, PA

A: Rich, dark red color, with a nice white head.

S: Roasty, with sweet fruits.

T: Roasty malts, licorice, sweet fruits, definite alcohol twinge.

M: Medium body, seemed more a strong dark ale than a stout.

D: Somewhat drinkable, but the sweetness stopped me from ordering a second.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.32/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Stout swing-top bottle purchased from Healthy Spirits in San Francisco, and brought back to Australia to share with my bros.

Pours a very hazy, but not particularly dark brown colour. Hints of red to it, mostly, certainly not even close to black. Head is a vague beige colour, which forms in some nice reverse cascading out of the bottle, but it dissipates rather quickly. All up, I can't say I'm terribly impressed for a beer which calls itself Imperial, Jurassian and Stout.

Nose is rather boozy, but with a slight cherry overtone and a sweetness that gives it vestiges of artificial cherry cola. Certainly something spiced and unusual in the beer, but just as certainly, very little in the way of dark roasted characters. There's a burning astringency that almost feels like it gets in my eyes, but that's just the booziness, and not the darkness. Again, it's interesting, but it's selling itself as something different.

Taste is incredibly boozy, almost like port, grappa or brandy as it heats the tongue, with almost minimal character elsewhere to give a hint of anything else besides pure booze. There's a slight dark note to it, of course, but once again, it's not nearly strong enough for what it claims to be, and the booze has the beer in a stranglehold. Feel is remarkably thin.

An Imperial Stout can afford to be as boozy as this because it's packed with flavour, and has a huge body to hold it all together. This has none of that, but it still insists on having a very high ABV. As a result, it ends up quite harsh, but at the same time rather bland. Very average beer, to my mind.

Photo of Halcyondays
3.27/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz. bottle, 2009 Vintage, a very specific to 5 sig. figures 10.276% ABV,

A: Pours a super dark brown, with a fizzy off-white head, pillowy at first, dies down quick, but has good retention, light lace.

S: Definite note of vanilla on the first sniff, but then dominated by tangy cocoa powder and leather. Light black pepper.

T: Has a lot of pepper especially on the back end. Tangy dark malt throughout like old hot chocolate. Mild vanilla. Interesting, though it's not really super tasty.

M: Light-bodied, for the style, thin, feels a bit like a Belgian, medium acidity, light carbonation.

D: The idea of this beer intrigued me so I picked it up. An experiment that didn't really work for me, but it's definitely weird and a beer someone can have fun delving into. It grew on me a little more as it ended, but not close to being worth the price (~$6).

Photo of tjfinkle
4.42/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 2008 poured into a tulip from a cool little bottle that looked more like a growler than a bottle...

A- Poured dark but not too thick with some light tan head that quickly dissipated into a nice lacing on the glass

S- Very smooth malts with some dark fruit and leather. Not nearly the harsh roasted malts many Imperial Stouts have. I definitely pick up some of the pepper smells that this beer is known for.

T- Malts up front. The roasted flavor that was missing from the smell comes through slightly with the finish. Again, definitely notice the pepper, which sounds not good for a stout but actually works well with the other flavors by adding a little spice to the mix.

M- Very mild and smooth for an Imperial Stout, especially one that is over 10%. The carbonation balances out the beer nicely. Unlike some Imperial Stouts, the roasted malts do not wreak havoc on your palate.

D- Very good beer. Would definitely recommend to a friend. Soft enough that it is easily enjoyable, but still very complex. Also very easy to drink for a beer of this style/ABV.

Photo of crossovert
4.23/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz brown swing-top bottle. Brewed with cane sugar, Sarawak pepper, Russian tea, and Bourbon vanilla.

It pours a dense ink black with an amazing looking dual tone caramel/tan head. There is a line going through it that separates the two different colors. It is thick and foamy with a bit of froth. It recedes decently quickly leaving just a little lacing but a nice froth atop the beer.

This beer doesn't say it is barrel aged but it kind of smells like it. It is probably form the nice bit of vanilla you get. The tea and the pepper bring a nice spice to the mix. This is above a nice chocolatey stout base.

The flavor is interesting. It is a bit too tangy than what I normally liek for the style and perhaps a bit sweet but it has a nice flavor. The sweetness levels as you go. There is a nice dose of coffee and smoke, rich sweet chocolate, spiciness some dark fruit, and residual cane sugar. The alcohol isn't completely hidden, but not a burden. The tea plays a role in the after taste with a nice dryness. This one has some amazing and interesting flavors.

It is a bit thin for an imperial stout, but the mouthfeel is still pretty decent it has a unique dryness in the finish perhaps form the tannic tea.

It is kind of a wonky beer, it looks and smells amazing, and tastes pretty good too but it is a bit on the odd side for mouthfeel.

Photo of eduardolinhalis
4.2/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle served in a chalice.

A: Beautiful black color with a huge beige head when poured. As it dissipates, many lacings are left around

S: Complex. BFM spiciness trademark. Acid and tarty. Vanilla, roasted malts and black chocolate. Earthy yeasts end. Few of alcohol can be noticed despite the considerable 10% ABV

T: Complex as the nose. Considerably tart for an American Imperial Stout. Amazing taste of BFM yeasts. Spicy. Notes of pepper. Vanilla, caramel, roasted malts and dark chocolate. Pleasant roasted and hoppy bitter end

M: Full body. Medium to low carbonation. Roasted and hoppy bitter aftertaste

O: High drinkability. Great beer. From the best Swiss brewery

Photo of cudmud
3.37/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: No head or lace and very dark.

Smell: Smells of coffee, chocolate, licorice, and carmel. No hops noted. Interesting aroma.

Taste: Black pepper and coffee combined with strong hop notes.

Mouthfeel: Thick and leather-like.

Drinkability: A tasty beer, but I don't think you drink more than one a night.

Photo of metter98
3.58/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: It poured jet black into a snifter glass with a thin beige head that doesn't last very long, but left lacey patterns on the surface.
S: There's a moderate aroma of dark, roasted malts along with notes of black pepper and tea in the nose.
T: The taste shares a lot of similarities with the smell and also has flavors of black pepper and tea with some hints of vanilla.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate with a little bit of warming from the alcohol. It doesn't feel thick and there is some dryness in the finish.
D: The alcohol is very well hidden. The beer is very drinkable if you enjoy tea--it tastes like a coffee stout but with tea instead of coffee.

Note: Batch 2008

Photo of morebeergood
3.42/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Served on cask at Novare Res in Portland on Sat 5/22. Arrived in an 8 oz glass for $5.50. Dirty brown color, with a murky body. No head, which I was not expecting from an imperial stout. Smell had a nice aroma of spice to it, almost like an herbal tea. Taste was good but not spectacular. Could taste some dark chocolate, malt, and vanilla, but it seemed like the cask aging really mellowed out all the flavors too much. All you could really effectively sense was the alcohol, which was definitely not toned down. Plus, the mouthfeel was almost watery, which is not what I really desire in an imperial stout. I am glad that I only paid $5.50 for a small glass, as I am happy I did not pay more and I really didn't need more than eight ounces.

Photo of ArrogantB
3.04/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Big ups to my cousin for bringing this back from Switzerland for me. First and foremost this is no stout. Its brown for God's sake! I usually don't knock appearance but if you tell me its an imperial stout and its not black then you fucked up. It smelled slightly sour but not in a bad way. The flavor was vinous and kind of average. I'm not sure the brewer understands what an imperial stout is because it ain't this. I would not even give this beer an E for effort. Forgettable.

Photo of tatoodkelt
3.58/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Consumed on 4/23/2010- from notes.

Never had a Swiss beer so here we go!

Brown swing top bottle as pictured poured into a pint glass.

A- Almost but not quite pitch black, dark brown around the edges and when held up to the light topped off with a thin light tan head that faded pretty quick to a ring around the glass. Some lacing.

S- Picked up alot of malts, tea and maybe a little coffee.

T- Nothing really dominated the flavor to me at first, just hints of malty bitter chololate, a touch sweet, a little spicy bite which I'm assuming is the pepper, and tea. As it warmed the tea got more pronounced.

M- Medium bodied, it was a little thinner than I expected.

D- Pretty drinkable despite the ABV, I'm just not a huge tea fan so it got a little old towards the end. Probably wont look for it again.

Photo of Patrick999
4.51/5  rDev +23.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Live review - poured from the swing-top bottle into a snifter. Dark but not opaque, although pouring with the sediment lends a considerable murkiness. Quickly dissipating head that nevertheless can be roused with some swirls of the glass.

From the description on the bottle, I'd guess this is going to be pretty complex, and the nose would seem to indicate so. Lot of malt, carob, black tea, and the black pepper also tickles the nostrils a bit. But at heart, definitely smells like an old-fashioned malt bomb. Love it.

Sometimes I get on big stouts for being too sweet (BrewDog Tokyo, I'm looking at you), but this one skews to the opposite end, as it finishes rather dry and mineral-y for this big a stout. And instead of the typical coffee/chocolate flavors you pull from Impy Stouts, this one glorifies Camellia sinensis with a real roasted black tea bitterness and some tobacco. Black pepper definitely in the mix. Aftertaste yields lots of chocolate and vanilla. Again, this is a quite dry 10% stout - allowing a whole lot of complexity to pull through. I like it more and more as it warms.

Soft, luxurious creamy feel. A little thin but I happen to like that.

Real tasty, this is a different take on imperial stout, and for me, well worth the indulgence. It's been a lot of fun to sip on. Please don't go into this hoping it will approximate American takes on the style.

Photo of Coolcheech
4.54/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured black, not jet black like some stouts though, depending on the light you could see brown. It had a very thin tan head that dissipated very soon after pouring. A thin ring of head did stay around the glass though.

S: Smells awesome, very malty, also reminded me of raisins.

T: This one is hard. The malty flavor really comes through strong, but nice. I couldn't really taste much of anything else except the malt at first, but after drinking it for a bit, I could find the tea in there. I did get some hints of spice here and there but not on every sip. Still tasty.

M: Medium body, not too heavy. Even though I thought it poured thin for a stout, it didn't feel that way.

D: This is a dangerous beer for me; I could drink these all day. At a 10+% ABV you can get pretty smashed easily. Thank god there $13 a bottle here, so I would be buying sixers any time soon.

Photo of Domingo
3.97/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Got this on my trip to Tampa. I'd never seen or heard of such a beer before.
Pours a black color with a thin white sheen of a head. The pour reveals this to be a little thinner than most as it doesn't leave a motor-oil like residue on the glass.
The flavor profile on this one is all over the place...in a good way. It starts off with some roasted dark chocolate flavors that take a bit of a sour turn. In the middle you can't help but get a very unique spice note from the chai tea. Tea, cardamom, and cinnamon hit the palate with a sharp peppery finish. Can't say I've had many beers like this. The only one I can think of was at the GABF pro-am, and it wasn't this polished. Not too sweet, and the booze is well hidden, too.
Texture is a tiny bit thin and slick, but not a serious flaw.
Not exactly something you'd make a session out of, but it's pretty drinkable for something this strong. Splitting a bottle with a semi-sweet dessert would probably be ideal, though.

Photo of Gavage
3.87/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a dark brown color with a short 1/4" tan colored head that breaks apart quickly. A few spots of lace develop.

Smell: brown sugar, malt sweetness, and some hints of tea are pleasant on the nose.

Taste: roasted malts, brown sugar, prunes, molasses, and pepper spice are up front. There is a hint of tea in here too. Bitterness is nicely balancing here, and alcohol provides some warming.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. For an Imperial Stout, the beer comes of quite thin. Lightly crisp to start, smooth and a bit dry at the finish.

Drinkability: for the style this one goes down a little quicker than others since it is a little thinner in body. Nice flavor profile keeps it interesting.

Photo of Nickls
3.7/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(From notes)

Pours with a mahogany, almost black color that's brownish at points as well. Two fingers worth of a lightly tan, dense head.

First thing I noticed in the aroma was the tartness and hints of sour, which is pretty characteristic of BMF brews. Very vinous; some dark grapes, a bit of maltiness; and a hint of bittersweet chocolate comes in. The flavor follows along the aroma lines as well, but as the brew warms and warms you get more of the chocolate and a bit of roasted malt behind the vinous characteristics and it actually makes for interesting drinking. Not quite what I expected, but good. Medium body that is a bit thin for the style; OK carbonation level though. Not a bad sipping brew, and it had some interesting points, just a bit much after a bit. Alcohol was completely hidden, which was nice.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
4.15/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A strong pour gets an easy three fingers of biscuity tan head that is fluffy and has super retention. Body is jet black much the same as other imperial stouts. The nose has lots of tart dark berries, cherries, some chocolate and a bit of bitter coffee. The tartness really doesn't translate into the taste though. There is a very creamy texture to the flavor on this one. Ripe sweet cherries, mocha like coffee tones and a brownie like chocolate feel. There is a dusting of spice on the back of the tongue along with a hint of vanilla that leads into the soft pleasant mouthfeel. This is a very nicely drinkable stout although not what I was expecting.

Photo of jgasparine
3.75/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- Poured with a thin khaki head, which was reasonably retained and exhibited some decent lacing throughout the drink. The body was a slightly cloudy deep garnet color with no observed from the sides of the glass.

S- Smells of sweet caramel malts (but none of the anticipated roastiness) combined with sour fruit and some very faint barnyard aromas. Smells more like a sour Baltic Porter than a typical American Double Stout... but interesting nonetheless.

T- Starts out sweet with smooth candy malt flavor(again, none of the anticipated roastiness) and sour dark fruits. The sourness is mild to moderate, and turns bitter and dry in the finish with the distinct flavor of black tea. This is truly a rollercoaster in the mouth... flavors seem to clash a bit.

M- A nice medium body... reasonably attenuated with a nice soft carbonation. I must admit, though, that I would anticipate a much firmer mouthfeel from an Imperial Stout.

D- Overall it is quite drinkable. Perhaps my beer didn't warm-up enough, but the alcohol never seemed to make itself known on the nose nor the palate...

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.3/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance - a good black pour, starts with a light mocha head but can't last and is left with a bare top and thin collar.

Aroma - an odd grainy, soy thing. An odd, high abv antiseptic, almost hospital aroma. Hot smelling.

Taste - decent roastiness, a sweet raisin and/or soy type flavor. Not Jurassian or Jurassic or whatever, it ain't that big. Some good notes of coffee on the swallow, but the sweet and soy kind of disjoin things. Notes of pepper on the swallow sometimes. The vanilla is distant, the tea shows up at the end but is not bad. Singularly, I'm not all that impressed but together they do paint a decent palette of flavors. I still pick up an undercurrent of funky sour stuff that I don't like, but overall this is pretty interesting.

Mouthfeel - decent weight, mild to medium carbonation, but just not the big thick body I expect.

Drinkability - unfortunately, this is an imperial stout that needs the most basic of ingredients - more malt. There are lots of other things in the beer, but there's no substitute for a proper malt bill.

Photo of Travlr
4.05/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer is proof that good things can come in small packages - lots of potential here. Almost black and completely devoid of head or lacing. Aroma suggests cafe au lait and dark fruits. Mouthfeel is very smooth, tastes slightly of oak, faint sourness. Hints of black pepper and vanilla, with an edge of scotch. Finishes with licorice. Very complex. Would like to see it after laying down for a couple of years.

Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
3.74/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This one is an opaque brown color, no light getting through, but it's not black. A fizzy, quick to dissipate brown head, minor lacing.

The aroma is filled with sweetness, from blueberry soda, chocolate malt, actually, more like fudge brownies and a vodka scented heat tingle with raspberry tarts. strange, but inviting.

with the first sip it's obvious that the complexity is pretty high with many levels of flavor flowing in and out of eachother. do they all work together with some balance is the question! a bitter chocolate malt and white and black pepper hits the buds first. black coffee with a shot of vodka. semi bitter, very dry smack of hops does give some balance to the malt, but the flavor's are not cohesive, but radically seperate. This is something that laying the bottle down for a year or so usually cures. Medium to full feel, getting much heftier the warmer it gets. slippery, but not very thick with some thinness in the middle. The black pepper and tea additions give an extra dry feel in the back of the palate.

Age this one for a while, it seems a bit green right now.

Cuvée Alex Le Rouge (Jurassian Imperial Stout) from BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
82 out of 100 based on 233 ratings.