Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Trousseau Barrels) - BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
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2.23/5 rDev -47.2%
TR 3. Pours absolutely flat, with no carbonation and no head. Dark amber with some sediment floating around. Smells tart, perhaps a bit musty, and vaguely fruity, but a little tired. Tastes astringent, watery, maybe even a little soapy. Watery weak, and astringent- not really a great combination. Disappointing.
01-18-2010 01:35:29 | More by Georgiabeer
3.35/5 rDev -20.6%
A-pours a transparent ruby red (the bottom of the glass pours a cloudy grapefruit color) with virtually no head.
S-some acetic acid up front, notes of caramel malt, faint oak, quite a tart aroma, notes of red fruits.
T-the taste is tart and sweet, acetic acid is present, lots of tart raspberries and a good bit of oak with heat in the back from the alcohol.
M-very smooth on the palate, syrupy medium body, lower carbonation and a little dry in the finish.
D-plenty of tart fruits with a little heat in the back. the oak is light but present, I'd actually rather it have less than more so it works. decent sour, nothing mind blowing and a little lacking in complexity but tasty and does a decent job of hiding the booze.
07-27-2010 01:40:21 | More by cpetrone84
3.43/5 rDev -18.7%
Drank from a 12.68 fl. oz. bottle purchased at Whole Foods, New York, NY
Brewed in May 2008
Served in a tulip
The beer poured nearly flat. A thin mass of light tan bubbles covered the murky, crimson-amber liquid.
Musty and tinny in the nose. Fairly reserved overall. A touch malty and sweet. Slightly fruity. Some barnyard funk and fumey alcohol aromas appeared as well. The alcohol presence became more prominent as the beer warmed.
Metallic notes again came through strong in the taste. Dry and steely. Fruity in the center. Sour cherry notes were noticeable. Semi-sweet with an acidic, vinegar-like twang. Quite vinous. A touch funky. The finish was super dry and oaky. Crisp, clean and moderately sour with a touch of alcohol warmth.
As I anticipated from the pour, the mouthfeel was nearly flat. The liquid itself was medium bodied and somewhat syrupy. Slightly creamy.
Drinkability was a mixed bag. Although this beer was disappointing in nearly every sense, the 11% ABV was incredibly well masked. The alcohol really sneaked up on me and made this much more tolerable.
This beer falls somewhere between a biere de garde and a wild ale. Whatever it is, I most definitely would not recommend it (especially considering that I paid $15 for my bottle).
05-16-2010 20:27:37 | More by Damian
3.45/5 rDev -18.2%
Aroma:Sour vinegar smell.
Appearance:Reddish brown, almost no head.
Taste:Lots of sourness in this beer, but at the same time, sweetness comes through as well. There is some oakyness as well.
Mouthfeel:A little bit harsh on the back of my throat accentuates the sour.
Drinkability:A great sour beer that doesn't push the limits of my taste buds. Refreshing.
08-03-2010 03:30:01 | More by fear025
3.63/5 rDev -14%
Picked up a bottle of this at Green's on Buford Highway on Friday. Slow Saturday afternoon, so I decided to crack one open.
Pours a murky brown. No head at all, and no carbonation. Little lacing, but the beer does coat the glass very similar to wine.
Smell is alcoholic, tart, cherries and a hint of sugar.
Smells better than it tastes. Taste starts off with a puckering tartness, which quickly descends and leaves a tangy malt and not much else behind it. A bready malt presence lingers. Not exactly the complex beast that I was expecting.
Watery mouthfeel. Tough to drink more than one of these.
Overall, for the price tag, I'm a little disappointed in this one. It's not bad, just for $12 for one bottle, I was expecting more.
09-13-2009 20:57:41 | More by jdubjacket
3.65/5 rDev -13.5%
335 ml handbottled in January of 2009, served slightly chilled. Pours into a tulip a murky orange/brown body with no head or lacing. The body is still.
Aroma has musty oak, tart cherry skins, cider vinegar, leathery tannins, and a pronounced vinous note.
Mouthfeel has a light medium body with minimal carbonation.
Taste reminds me of Panil Barriquee, an Italian version of a Flanders Red. This one is much more akin to a wine than a beer. Sour and tart green apple skins accented with balsamic vinegar, is how I would sum it up. Leathery tannins add an acidic note. No real malt or hop character. Lots of musty oak aging character. Finishes very dry.
This is not a biere de garde. It's a Flanders Red or, possibly, a lambic. The aging in trousseau casks adds a pleasant musty oak character. I wish I had laid this one down for a couple of years so I might have gained more of an appreciation for its complexity.
06-10-2009 20:46:47 | More by merlin48
3.95/5 rDev -6.4%
TR5 served in a 16 oz. tulip.
A- Dark amber, almost light brown color with nearly no head. Thin layer of tiny bubbles line the surface of the beer at the glass edge.
S- Some vinegar sour notes, oak, vinous, very earthy.
T- Whoa! Very different from other sours and lambics I have had. Sour/vinegar, vinous alcohol, dirt, oak. a lot going on in this beer.
M- Medium/thin feel which is very surprising for a 11 % beer. Fairly smooth with a little oily feel in there. Again, drinks very well for the abv.
O- Very different from almost anything I have had before. Have not had a ton of sours or lambics, but like the complexity of this beer.
10-01-2011 00:55:05 | More by kawilliams81
3.98/5 rDev -5.7%
Pours clear and copper in color with modest amounts of head. Oaky aroma with a vinous quality and burnt sugar. Oak and vinous flavors along an alcoholic and tart finish. Appropriately moderated carbonation keeps the mouthfeel nicely full and smooth. I prefer the more prominent wood flavors here over the Vin Jaune barrel.
03-10-2010 01:17:48 | More by vacax
3.98/5 rDev -5.7%
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 45 degrees
TR 3 Barrique No. 3
Brewed in May 2008 Hand Bottled January 09
This pours out a nice, mild, ruby color with an overtone of medium amber highlights. A thin head of light tan colored, creamy looking, foam appears on top. It maintains a solid surface covering, all through the glass. Lacing is thin, yet mildly sticky.
Green apple skins. Tart cherries. Drying hints of oak. Golden fruit flesh, along with dark berries. Light traces of caramel and vanilla. Light barnyard funk notes.
The funk and the oak are dominating the flavor. A light touch of earthiness, almost dirt-like. Lots of dark fruit notes, especially the skins, which come across as a vibrant, yet light, tartness. The oak notes come back out to provide a very dry finish.
It has a medium body and a high level of carbonation. It is very sharp and crisp, yet still mildly refreshing.
A bit much for 'session' drinking, yet nice enough to want to come back to.
03-31-2011 04:22:52 | More by coldmeat23
4.03/5 rDev -4.5%
Poured into a snifter. TR 5, brewed in May 2008, bottled in January 2009.
3.5 A: Murky amber plum color. No head formed. I never know what score to give appearance when the beer is intentionally flat.
4.5 S: This smells amazing. It's at least as good as any other variant I've had. Strong, rich and vinous red grape. Big hit of mixed berries followed by plum, apple, and plenty of cherry. Tangy lactic fruitiness behind that. Caramel, light toffee, and a big hit of oak with vanilla underneath. This is extremely smooth with all the aromas integrating very well.
4.0 T: The taste is also super complex and powerful, but it has a couple issues. Like some of the other variants, this has a very noticeable tannic astringency. It's not so bad that it dominates the taste, but it does distract from the better flavors. Big tangy lactic acid twang. Again, very vinous with red grape, berries, cherries, plum, apple, and lime. Caramel, toffe, tobacco, and raisin. Again big oak and mild vanilla. The booze is well hidden.
3.5 M: Medium to heavier medium body. This one does have a bit of carbonation in it, but it's just barely noticeable. Except for the tannins, this is fairly smooth and somewhat crisp.
4.0 D: Another quality variant. While this one has some issues, it's still mighty tasty and definitely worth a try.
08-17-2012 01:00:26 | More by DavoleBomb
4.05/5 rDev -4%
375ml bottle. Newer vintage TR-5 version. Served in a tulip and split with a few fellow BA's.
A: Pours with very little head. Slightly opaque, it appears a nice Crimson red in my glass. Lacing is pretty skimpy.
S: Tart cherries with strong woody undertones. Vinegar and alcohol are present along with a slight amount of sweetness.
T: Much like it smells, there is plenty of cherries, currants and dark fruit flavors. Funky oak barrel bug action is also right up front, helping to give an overall tannic, vinous taste. Very Port like. The sour and sweetness play nice, but the balance seems to be a little uneven overall. Some age will definitely benefit this beer.
M: Medium body. Feels a little syrupy. Very or little carbonation, but it fits with this kind of barrel aged beer.
D: 11%??? Seriously? I'd have thought maybe 6-7% tops. This is really drinkable, and a 375ml would be no problem for one person to consume. The lactic sourness and wood could be a bit of a burden on the palate if you drank too much though.
I've had several different kinds of the barrel aged Abbaye De Saint Bon-Cien's before, and this is just as good as the rest. However, I prefer the Bon-Chien's with some age on them and this version is no different. Also the price is pretty steep for a 375ml bottle. Around here they're like $16 a piece.
09-28-2009 20:36:11 | More by heliosphann
4.05/5 rDev -4%
Thanks to bmanning for opening this bottle up. Reviewed from notes.
Pours a nice caramel amber with a pretty decent sized off-white/tan head and a bit of lacing on the way down. Nose brings forward pleasant scents of oak, cherry, vinegar, caramel, and a touch of brown sugar. Taste brings both acetic and lactic acid, although in fairly small doses. The underlying cherry mixes well with the caramel bready sweetness, which is quite light, but quite nice. All the components of the beer fit in well with the slight sourness, creating a nice mouthfeel. At the same time, the acetic character gets to be a bit much toward the end.
10-14-2010 11:05:55 | More by Thorpe429
4.08/5 rDev -3.3%
A - Amber pour with little to no white head.
S - Oaky, vanilla dominate the standard funky, sweaty barnyard aroma.
T - Complex and sophisticated. Sweet caramel base flavor with layers of sour apples, citrus, vanilla and oak.
M - Bubbly, medium carbonation.
D - Overall a very well put together beer.
05-16-2010 15:35:06 | More by muttyd
4.08/5 rDev -3.3%
Thanks to jedwards for sharing. Poured the color of cider with a hazy clarity and no head. Nose reveals vinegar, a hint of oak, a cideresque quality and a little bit of must. Flavors are consistent with nose; however, not as sour as anticipated by the nose. Mouthfeel is light, with a fairly still carbonation and a hint of astringency that stimulates the salivary glands. I have to say that I am surprised that this is classified as a Biere de Garde. Regardless, this is not a crazy sour beer, but has a nice balance that contributes nicely to its drinkability
05-16-2010 00:32:10 | More by Jwale73
4.1/5 rDev -2.8%
12.68 oz. bottle into a Brooklyn tulip. Brewed in May 2008.
Appearance: Slightly hazy raspberry-colored body with not a lot of carbonation coming to the top. Mildly off-white head dissipates fairly quickly, leaving a few scant bubbles on the bulb of the glass.
Smell: A good mix of raspberries, sour cherries, and oak sourness. Highly effervescent and bright, which makes up for the possible lack of complexity.
Taste: I really like this, and I wish the bottle was bigger than 12 ounces. A good mix of sour fruits and oak, which I had hoped for and was expecting. The sourness levels mix quite nicely with the sour fruit, strawberries, raspberries, and cherries, and maybe some granny smith apple in there. I'm not exactly sure what the Trousseau grape is, but the barrels seem to work nicely here with the yeast and the brew.
Mouthfeel: This is probably being generous, as the look of it in the glass told me what was going to happen, but there's a fight from the carbonation that helps not seem as watery as I thought it was going to be. And for 11%, it does maintain a semblance of effervescence and doesn't seem cloying in the least, thankfully.
Drinkability: I admit, I probably shouldn't have paid -- yes -- $16 for this bottle, which is pretty ridiculous, but alas. Is it worth that price? To me, absolutely not. And that's what has to take this down to my current rating. A solid brew, but for the "VERY LIMITED EDITION" stamped on the back label, in addition to the label saying that it would keep for many years, I wonder, "Really? How many years?" With the carbonation already seeming like it's lost its edge, my advice would be to drink this sucker now, unless I was somehow supposed to wait at least 5 years down the road?
06-04-2010 18:36:07 | More by asabreed
4.1/5 rDev -2.8%
a - pours a deep rusty burgundy color. slightly cloudy on second pour, no head and very few bubbles, looks almost like wine
s - some sour apple mixed with oak up front on the nose, some alcohol evident, creamy vanilla notes, a little blackberry jam, slight leather aroma
t - nice sour cherry punch up front with some vinegar, mix of sweet, tart and sour, rounds out on the mid-palate with the oak barrels being prominent, dark fruits mixed with cream and vanilla layers on top of the oak, tartness trails into the finish with lingering oak and sour cherry, a little bit of alcohol heat on the finish, but nothing that would suggest 11+% abv.
m - medium-bodied with very low carbonation, not overly dry on the palette
d - a sipper for sure, but this one is fairly easy on the palette relative to some other sour ales, the oak aging really seems to soften the sourness and tartness
Very good beer overall, though the $17 price tag will probably keep me from getting another bottle anytime soon. Great one to split with another sour lover.
06-29-2009 00:09:30 | More by WeisGuy
4.1/5 rDev -2.8%
375 ml capped bottle, batch TR3. Big thanks to grub for sharing this rarity.
Pours a clear dark reddish amber, some orange highlights, thin off white head forms and settles down to a thin ring around the glass, some lace spots stick, a big of chunkiness but pretty bright looking.
Smell is neat, similar to the original 07 batch, lots of caramel and light funk, pretty neat sweetness, lemons, really rich and intense, a bit of biscuit, lots of funky fruit, sourness is light, lots of vanilla and oak, a bit of grapiness, pretty cool.
Taste is really neat, sweet up front, very fruity, some funkiness, lemons, light spice, some alcohol, grape juice, earthy, very oaky, some vanilla and caramel, more fruit, sour and tart in the finish, boozy and spicy, very oaky, real neat.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low to medium carbonation, too low for the style. Some significant alcohol heat going down. This is cool stuff though, the barrel is unique and comes through in the character. I think I prefer the regular Abbaye de Bon Chien, but this is a fantastic treat. Thanks Russ!
03-27-2010 02:24:28 | More by Viggo
4.2/5 rDev -0.5%
Side by side comparison of TR3 and TR5
A: The pour of both batches is amber in color with a slight cloudiness. There is some slight carbonation, but noting in the way of head formation.
S: TR3 has a very lactic, lemony nose with a bit of white grapes an only a touch of oak. TR5, on the other hand has a fair amount of oak character with a more reserved tartness and a bit more sweetness.
T: While the fruit character in the nose of TR3 was not all that sweet, there is some definitely sugar and caramel on the palate. The tartness gives the beer a nice balance, as do the slight presence of tannins.
TR5 is a bit more heavy on the wine and grape character, and again, has more oak to it. The dryness and funkiness are present, but moderate at most. The tartness is on the lower side as well.
M: Both beers exhibit a medium body with very mild carbonation and a very dry finish.
D: Despite the surprisingly high alcohol percentage, both beers are very easy to drink. The flavor profile is very different from the two batches, but quite complex and kept me coming back for more.
02-03-2010 00:41:50 | More by womencantsail
4.2/5 rDev -0.5%
Poured via 12.68oz. bottle on 11/9/09, courtesy of FooFaa.
A - The liquid emerged from the bottle as a hazy caramel brown, copper-tinged color with sparse carbonation and a thin beige head that settled into a patchy retention, leaving minimal lace around the glass.
S - Initial aroma incorporates a melange of sour fruit and berries, oaky tannins and a hint of band-aid.
T - Opens with a mild fruity tartness suggesting cherries and berries, followed by a hint of sweetness, then segues into a very dry, oaky/woody character in the backend. Sourness is very subtle overall and complements the woody character quite nicely.
M - Medium bodied with a light syrupy texture and soft carbonation. Finishes semi-dry with a mild tartness on the palate.
D - I really enjoyed this one quite a bit. The tartness is pretty mild overall, which really enhanced the drinkability of this fairly complex brew.
11-11-2009 13:07:47 | More by ffejherb
4.22/5 rDev 0%
TR3. Brewed May 2008 and bottled January 2009. This is beer number 1,600 for me and it didn't disappoint.
The beer pours an orange-amber color with a small white head. The aroma is tart cherries as well as some oak. The flavor is cherries, oak, grapes and vanilla. There is a medium level of tartness in the beer. Low carbonation and medium mouthfeel.
06-10-2010 01:57:41 | More by Mora2000
Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Trousseau Barrels) from BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
92 out of 100 based on 57 ratings.