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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels) - BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)

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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels)Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

34 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 34
Reviews: 23
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.72%
Wants: 8
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes) visit their website
Switzerland

Style | ABV
Bière de Garde |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: illidurit on 05-25-2009)
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DefenCorps

Oregon

4.08/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

At Max's Ravens and Rare Beer event this past Sunday.

Huh? Carbonation? Why? Well, unique among all the Bon Chien Grand Crus I've had, this actually has some carbonation. Mildly hazy with a thin off-white head with great retention and lacing, this is solid.

Decidedly unique among the Bon Chien Grand Crus, this is mildly sweet, vinous tart and sour with a mild aspirin-like character. Not as complex as I've come to expect, this is mildly fruity with mostly tropical fruit (pineapple). Pretty darned solid

Opening tart and sour with a mildly solventy character with very high carbonation (so high that the beer foams in my mouth), this beer is mildly fruity with golden raisins, white grapes and not as tropical as the nose suggests. Not very acidic, this has the tartness I've come to associate with berries and grapes. Not as rich, deep and vinous as the others (I'm guessing this is due to a paler base beer), this is still very good. Tart on the finish with a crisp acidic character with mild tartness. Thankfully, the solvent and aspirin character is not as prominent on the the palate as it was on the nose.

The carbonation is strange, but works OK. Medium in body, I love the long lasting finish with a great white grape character, I'm finding this to be very enjoyable. I would love to try this again.

**Edit 09 April 2012**
Drinking my lone bottle of the 09 vintage, Vin Jaune 1, that I bought for the stupid price of $22 at State Line. Oh well.

Darker than the 08 vintage, this is a beautiful burnished copper with a dense, light brown head with excellent retention. The nose is a lot more muted than the other beers in the series. In place of a big, leathery red wine character, there's a more delicate honeyed and floral fruit character, with pears, light-fleshed plums, and a rather spicy Brett character, with cloves and a little plastic.

The palate has taken on a whole new level of sourness. A blend of medicinal and raw stone fruit (particularly the flavor of unripe peaches and grapes). As it breathes, it gains quite a bit of an oxidized, sweet white wine character, which is what I guess a vin jaune is. Quite fruity with light sherry, unripe peaches, apricots and pluots (no, really), this has taken on a lot of barrel character, and sourness too. The sourness has a lot of fruit character, once the medicinal character dissipates. Despite my initial impressions, acetic character is quite low, and the sourness is predominantly lactic. However, there is a little bit of bitter-sweet-sourness all rolled into one (like a sour candy) that I would guess is a combination of malic and succinic acids? Alcohol is quite well hidden, this finishes dry, lightly carbonated and plenty of fruit on the finish. Quite impressive and unique, but over-priced. Worth buying once IMO. 4.5/3.5/4/4/4

Serving type: bottle

10-21-2009 13:14:14 | More by DefenCorps
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No hiss when the cap is popped; hardly any head when the beer is poured. Some watery bubbles hang out at the edges of the murky maroon liquid.

Crazy nose. Barnyard funk mixed with mulled apple cider, cinnamon, pears, a hint of white vinegar. Wow.

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2009 vintage.

Pours a murky orange-brown with no head. No lacing on the drink down either. Smell is slightly sour and tart with some malt, fruit, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with wine and wood flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with a flat mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with an interesting barrel aged presence in the aromas and flavors.

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2.5 A: Pours a completely still, murky plum color. No evidence of carbonation.

4.5 S: Potent vinous character. Lots of sherry, which is probably a combination of slight oxidation and the barrels used. I'm wholly unfamiliar with vin jaune, so I'm not quite sure what that contributes. Anyway, the nose on this is powerful and complex past the grape components. Lactic tanginess, strong tart cherry, apple, melon, and plenty of plum. Toffee, faint raisin, plenty of oak, and vanilla.

4.0 T: The taste is intensely oaky with a strong tannic component and a moderate astringency. Again, big vinous aspects featuring sherry. Lactic tanginess and rotting wood funkiness. Tons of cherry flavor with apple, melon, and plum falling far behind. While the nose had some sweetness to it, the taste is definitely on the drier end. Light toffee. Booze is very well hidden. Tasty and complex.

2.5 M: Medium body. While this isn't horrible without carbonation (probably due to the grape influence), it still suffers for it. Feels pretty much like a heavier wine.

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VJ1

Appearance: Though I only was able to raise a modest head, I was surprised to see the beer bubbling out of the bottle as I tried my first sample; anyway, the beer poured a cloudy apricot nectar color and did leave quite a few spots of lace behind

Smell: Superb aromatics, and while I have never had Vin Jaune, the oaky vinous character on the nose must have come from the barrels; in addition, a range of fruit flavors blossom such as tart apple, pear and strawberry; underneath all of the fruit is a caramel aspect; the high ABV is also detectable

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Pours mostly flat, though it manages to scare up a ring of large bubbled, amber tinged froth that hugs the sides of my Lost Abbey Teku glass. The beer is a concentrated red / amber color that shows a clear, bright amber hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells vinous, oak like and with a port or sherry like note up front that is backed by an aged, toasty maltiness towards the finish. There is a definite, though not heavy, tartness to this beer that accentuates a white wine grape like note. Fruit notes of tart raisins, sour pear / apple and some sort of distinct, but not quite placeable, musky melon like note adds some complexity and balance to the other notes. There is a toasted character here in the nose that is a product of the oak, but also from some residual malt character; the oak also contributes a spiciness to the nose that is a mix of sharp oak, white pepper and this is perhaps joined by a touch of phenolic spicy character.

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4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
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A - Pours still, even with a slight hiss when popping the cap. Murky cider orange-brown, with a hint of transparency at the edges of the glass.

S - The aroma is a nice mix of white wine vinegar, oak, musky funk, caramel malts, a touch of vanilla, and mild solvent alcohol aroma in the periphery. Nice complexity and depth - I get different notes each time I pick up the glass.

T - Taste is more oak-laden, with a mild oxidized quality as well. Mild sour grape and tart apple character, as well as a slightly nutty quality. Not as much of the malt and funky sweetness found in the aroma - more dry and vinous, although it does sweeten a bit as it warms. No alcohol present here, and the aftertaste is quite clean.

M - There's a slight hint of alcohol warming, as well as some low-level acidity. Very dry and tannic, medium-bodied, and still - unlike some of the other bottles out there. It didn't bother me in all the other BFM Grand Crus, and it doesn't bother me here.

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4.05/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

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@Woodshop Classix

App- A very nice mix of a murky brown mixed with some ambers to it it. A one finger head formed that was slightly off white with a little bit of cling and lace.

Smell- All over the place with large amounts of oak with a effervescent tart, acid, lemon and a little sweetness.

Taste- This follows the nose with a bunch of the same flavors. A little more oak with some tannic flavors and still a bit of caramel sweet and lemony.

Mouth- Medium bodied and medium carbonated. Leaves the oaky tastes with a bit of tart on the end.

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Texas

4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 VJ2 vintage. The beer pours a reddish-amber color with no head. The aroma is heavy on the sour apples and toffee. The beer smells a lot like a heavy oaked chardonnay. The flavor is more of the same. There is some caramel malt, but the two main flavors are slightly sour apples and a lot of white wine notes. There is also some oak in the flavor. Not as sour as some of the other BFM sours I have tried. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A good, not great sour.

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JAXSON

Pennsylvania

3.45/5  rDev -14%
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2009 rate.

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Massachusetts

4.33/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Beautiful red/copper body. Fizzy loud white head that fades to a faint ring.

S - Funky earthiness, leather, oak, and fruity (grapes, apples). Very vinous.

T - Very complex brew. Solid red wine-esque backbone with a pleasant sourness. Dry, fruity, (again) vinous. Astringent finish, very mouthwatering.

M - Fizzy on the tongue. Moderate alcohol presence.

D - At almost $25/bottle, this one is a rare treat. Can't seem to put it down though.

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cpetrone84

Pennsylvania

3.58/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a dark orangish amber color, very hazy, with a bubbly creamy very light tan head.

S-the nose is pretty solid, notes of earthiness to it with a nice amount of tartness. the tart cherries play in well, maybe a touch of acetic acid, the oak is very faint.

T-a light malt base is taken over by a strong tart cherry flavor, the vinegar is light, dry oak is present with a hint of metallic flavor in the very back with a little spiciness to it.

M-good carbonation balances a syrupy medium body with a crisp and lightly dry finish. its a little grainy on the palate but still feels soft and comfortable.

D-this is pretty straight forward and hides the alcohol very well. the sweet to tart ratio is balanced very well, not much else happening but still pretty enjoyable.

Serving type: bottle

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d0ggnate

California

3.58/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bought this one a few months ago and thought now was as good a time as any to pop it open.

VJ2 bottled in 2009. The cap peeled of this one without even a hiss. After a less than gentle pour, I was barely able to illicit even a resemblance of carbonation. The body sits a nice red/amber color, but is very still.

The nose here is pretty good. Aromas of unripened green grapes and tart barrel qualities. Just the right whiffs of funk arise from my glass. Not too strong, but enticing instead.

On to the taste. Just as it appears, it falls a bit flat. Very wine-like with hints of brown sugar. Noticeable alcohol warming effect as I swish this one down. Reminds me of drinking a glass of wine. Strange to think of beer that way, but I feel like this is wine.

Mouthfeel is lacking, but still palate coating. The flavors cover my mouth and last for minutes at a time. This is my first Bon Chien Grand Cru. I'd love to try the others. I definitely wasn't expecting it to be like this. This beer is unlike most others I've had.

Serving type: bottle

05-26-2010 05:38:47 | More by d0ggnate
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vacax

California

3.68/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours translucent copper in color with a good amount of head retention. Strong aroma with a vinous quality, brown sugar, and light oakiness. Tastes of dark fruit, wine grapes, alcoholic with a tart finish. Medium to full in body with a lower amount of carbonation hits the mark. Pretty decent beer, but I don't seem to be as impressed as some people. Worth trying but not for the price tag.

Serving type: bottle

03-10-2010 01:13:08 | More by vacax
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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels) from BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
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