Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels) - BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
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3.78/5 rDev -5.7%
No hiss when the cap is popped; hardly any head when the beer is poured. Some watery bubbles hang out at the edges of the murky maroon liquid.
Crazy nose. Barnyard funk mixed with mulled apple cider, cinnamon, pears, a hint of white vinegar. Wow.
The flavor carries a little bit of the apple cider quality as well as some increased sweet cherry notes. Funky hay, a bit of honeyed oxidation, green apple, toasted oak. Flash of cherry jolly ranchers at the swallow. Mild sourness.
Flat as a two-by-four. Medium-full body has nice heft. No noticeable alcohol. Would be much better with some bubbles.
Great flavor, great aroma. Just needs CO2.
07-22-2013 17:33:20 | More by Phelps
3.5/5 rDev -12.7%
Thanks to wethorseblanket for sharing this one at jmgrub's tasting.
Pours a murky orange-brown with no head. No lacing on the drink down either. Smell is slightly sour and tart with some malt, fruit, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with wine and wood flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with a flat mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with an interesting barrel aged presence in the aromas and flavors.
01-29-2013 03:08:51 | More by UCLABrewN84
3.88/5 rDev -3.2%
Poured into a snifter. Big thanks to SteveFinny for this and all the other versions. Never had any of these and never even heard of them. VJ2, brewed in 2009.
2.5 A: Pours a completely still, murky plum color. No evidence of carbonation.
4.5 S: Potent vinous character. Lots of sherry, which is probably a combination of slight oxidation and the barrels used. I'm wholly unfamiliar with vin jaune, so I'm not quite sure what that contributes. Anyway, the nose on this is powerful and complex past the grape components. Lactic tanginess, strong tart cherry, apple, melon, and plenty of plum. Toffee, faint raisin, plenty of oak, and vanilla.
4.0 T: The taste is intensely oaky with a strong tannic component and a moderate astringency. Again, big vinous aspects featuring sherry. Lactic tanginess and rotting wood funkiness. Tons of cherry flavor with apple, melon, and plum falling far behind. While the nose had some sweetness to it, the taste is definitely on the drier end. Light toffee. Booze is very well hidden. Tasty and complex.
2.5 M: Medium body. While this isn't horrible without carbonation (probably due to the grape influence), it still suffers for it. Feels pretty much like a heavier wine.
4.0 D: I enjoyed this quite a bit. Super complex and tasty. The astringency lowers the drinkibility, but all in all this is a good beer.
07-18-2012 03:18:43 | More by DavoleBomb
4.75/5 rDev +18.5%
Appearance: Though I only was able to raise a modest head, I was surprised to see the beer bubbling out of the bottle as I tried my first sample; anyway, the beer poured a cloudy apricot nectar color and did leave quite a few spots of lace behind
Smell: Superb aromatics, and while I have never had Vin Jaune, the oaky vinous character on the nose must have come from the barrels; in addition, a range of fruit flavors blossom such as tart apple, pear and strawberry; underneath all of the fruit is a caramel aspect; the high ABV is also detectable
Taste: As complex as the nose, the fruit flavors dominate, up front, with the orchard fruits joining with the tart white wine grape flavors; caramel sweetness underneath balances the lactic sourness; just a slight bit of funk that darts around in the finish, but mostly there is the interplay between the fruit, the sour elements and the sweeter base
Mouthfeel: Moderate to full body with low carbonation
Overall: This is the first of the barrel aged Bon-Chien series that I have tried and, despite the high price tag, it was worth every penny; I have cellared this for some time and it was worth the wait
05-27-2012 19:36:05 | More by brentk56
3.9/5 rDev -2.7%
VJ2, 2009 Bottling; Sampled December 2011
Pours mostly flat, though it manages to scare up a ring of large bubbled, amber tinged froth that hugs the sides of my Lost Abbey Teku glass. The beer is a concentrated red / amber color that shows a clear, bright amber hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells vinous, oak like and with a port or sherry like note up front that is backed by an aged, toasty maltiness towards the finish. There is a definite, though not heavy, tartness to this beer that accentuates a white wine grape like note. Fruit notes of tart raisins, sour pear / apple and some sort of distinct, but not quite placeable, musky melon like note adds some complexity and balance to the other notes. There is a toasted character here in the nose that is a product of the oak, but also from some residual malt character; the oak also contributes a spiciness to the nose that is a mix of sharp oak, white pepper and this is perhaps joined by a touch of phenolic spicy character.
Still feeling as it hits the mouth, this makes it seem light, despite it coating the palate fairly well. The finish has an oxidized, not quite cardboard like note to it as well as a spicy, lightly astringent oak character, a touch of tartness and a dry, vinous fruit character; this last reminds me of raisins (though without any sweetness), a touch of tart berry notes, a hint of oxidized apple and some red pear flavors. There is an oak presence throughout the flavor profile; a light astringency is noticed from beginning to end, there is a definite wood / oak flavor here as well and perhaps a touch of toasted oak notes, this last suggests at some toasted character from the malt.
This is much nicer than the flat BA Santa’s that I had before this; the difference (since they both are flat and barrel aged) is that this beer is balanced, no one thing (especially the barrel) is so dominant that it gets harsh or annoying. It probably helps that this beer was flat on purpose and was designed around that.
02-18-2012 02:18:57 | More by Gueuzedude
4.03/5 rDev +0.5%
Bottled purchased at West Lakeview Liquors. Served in a ZBF 2011 tulip. VJ2 version.
A - Pours still, even with a slight hiss when popping the cap. Murky cider orange-brown, with a hint of transparency at the edges of the glass.
S - The aroma is a nice mix of white wine vinegar, oak, musky funk, caramel malts, a touch of vanilla, and mild solvent alcohol aroma in the periphery. Nice complexity and depth - I get different notes each time I pick up the glass.
T - Taste is more oak-laden, with a mild oxidized quality as well. Mild sour grape and tart apple character, as well as a slightly nutty quality. Not as much of the malt and funky sweetness found in the aroma - more dry and vinous, although it does sweeten a bit as it warms. No alcohol present here, and the aftertaste is quite clean.
M - There's a slight hint of alcohol warming, as well as some low-level acidity. Very dry and tannic, medium-bodied, and still - unlike some of the other bottles out there. It didn't bother me in all the other BFM Grand Crus, and it doesn't bother me here.
D - Even at 11% I had no problem putting down the 375ml bottle on my own, although I took it slowly. Not worth the exorbitant $23 price tag, and possibly the weakest of the BFM Grand Crus (so far), but still quite enjoyable. I'm intrigued as to how much the Vin Jaune contributes to the oxidized quality of the beer.
10-27-2011 02:26:31 | More by MasterSki
4.05/5 rDev +1%
787th Review on BA
Bottle to goblet
App- A very nice mix of a murky brown mixed with some ambers to it it. A one finger head formed that was slightly off white with a little bit of cling and lace.
Smell- All over the place with large amounts of oak with a effervescent tart, acid, lemon and a little sweetness.
Taste- This follows the nose with a bunch of the same flavors. A little more oak with some tannic flavors and still a bit of caramel sweet and lemony.
Mouth- Medium bodied and medium carbonated. Leaves the oaky tastes with a bit of tart on the end.
Drink- This was a pretty damn tasty oak aged sour beer. From the Swiss who I don’t normally associate with beer but this was good, dry, tart, acidic and flavorful.
08-31-2011 22:49:52 | More by FosterJM
4/5 rDev -0.2%
2009 VJ2 vintage. The beer pours a reddish-amber color with no head. The aroma is heavy on the sour apples and toffee. The beer smells a lot like a heavy oaked chardonnay. The flavor is more of the same. There is some caramel malt, but the two main flavors are slightly sour apples and a lot of white wine notes. There is also some oak in the flavor. Not as sour as some of the other BFM sours I have tried. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A good, not great sour.
05-08-2011 19:21:40 | More by Mora2000
3.45/5 rDev -14%
375ml bottle pours a clear, deep orange-red with a really large head and tons of tiny little bubbles rising up. Nose is beautifully sour and rich. Brett, wine, ripe strawberries, cherries. So elegant and luscious. A bit of caramel. Flavor is really, really strong on the wine, which is a bit of an oddity. Very rich and a bit sweet. Long and a bit boozy in the finish. This is so rich that it's almost a bit much. The brett kind of needs time to chew away at these sugars. I think if this were drier it would be exceptional. A tough one to rate given the disparity between nose and mouth.
12-04-2010 01:34:28 | More by JAXSON
4.33/5 rDev +8%
A - Beautiful red/copper body. Fizzy loud white head that fades to a faint ring.
S - Funky earthiness, leather, oak, and fruity (grapes, apples). Very vinous.
T - Very complex brew. Solid red wine-esque backbone with a pleasant sourness. Dry, fruity, (again) vinous. Astringent finish, very mouthwatering.
M - Fizzy on the tongue. Moderate alcohol presence.
D - At almost $25/bottle, this one is a rare treat. Can't seem to put it down though.
08-27-2010 02:05:37 | More by muttyd
3.58/5 rDev -10.7%
A-pours a dark orangish amber color, very hazy, with a bubbly creamy very light tan head.
S-the nose is pretty solid, notes of earthiness to it with a nice amount of tartness. the tart cherries play in well, maybe a touch of acetic acid, the oak is very faint.
T-a light malt base is taken over by a strong tart cherry flavor, the vinegar is light, dry oak is present with a hint of metallic flavor in the very back with a little spiciness to it.
M-good carbonation balances a syrupy medium body with a crisp and lightly dry finish. its a little grainy on the palate but still feels soft and comfortable.
D-this is pretty straight forward and hides the alcohol very well. the sweet to tart ratio is balanced very well, not much else happening but still pretty enjoyable.
07-27-2010 02:01:05 | More by cpetrone84
3.58/5 rDev -10.7%
Bought this one a few months ago and thought now was as good a time as any to pop it open.
VJ2 bottled in 2009. The cap peeled of this one without even a hiss. After a less than gentle pour, I was barely able to illicit even a resemblance of carbonation. The body sits a nice red/amber color, but is very still.
The nose here is pretty good. Aromas of unripened green grapes and tart barrel qualities. Just the right whiffs of funk arise from my glass. Not too strong, but enticing instead.
On to the taste. Just as it appears, it falls a bit flat. Very wine-like with hints of brown sugar. Noticeable alcohol warming effect as I swish this one down. Reminds me of drinking a glass of wine. Strange to think of beer that way, but I feel like this is wine.
Mouthfeel is lacking, but still palate coating. The flavors cover my mouth and last for minutes at a time. This is my first Bon Chien Grand Cru. I'd love to try the others. I definitely wasn't expecting it to be like this. This beer is unlike most others I've had.
05-26-2010 05:38:47 | More by d0ggnate
3.68/5 rDev -8.2%
Pours translucent copper in color with a good amount of head retention. Strong aroma with a vinous quality, brown sugar, and light oakiness. Tastes of dark fruit, wine grapes, alcoholic with a tart finish. Medium to full in body with a lower amount of carbonation hits the mark. Pretty decent beer, but I don't seem to be as impressed as some people. Worth trying but not for the price tag.
03-10-2010 01:13:08 | More by vacax
4.22/5 rDev +5.2%
Thanks to Bobby for opening this one yesterday at our tasting.
A: The pour is an opaque burnt orange color with a thin white head and some mild carbonation.
S: There's quite a vinous quality to this beer, which certainly makes sense. A lot of grapes, oak, and slightly musty. The tartness is mostly lactic with a mild acetic quality.
T: The flavor is very similar to the nose. A lot of tart grapes and apples with a heavy oak component to it. There isn't a ton of tartness, but enough to go along well with the fruit and oak flavors. The Brett does not necessarily provide much funk, but a definite dryness.
M: The carbonation is certainly plentiful with a medium body to the beer.
D: To be honest, I did not even notice how high the ABV was on this beer. That said, it's certainly a good beer, but given its price tag, I think once was enough.
02-02-2010 05:27:47 | More by womencantsail
Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels) from BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
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