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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Rhum Barrels) - BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)

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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Rhum Barrels)Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Rhum Barrels)

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BA SCORE
82
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39 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 39
Reviews: 20
rAvg: 3.6
pDev: 15%
Wants: 1
Gots: 10 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes) visit their website
Switzerland

Style | ABV
Bière de Garde |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Strong Sour Ale Double Wooded in Rum Barrels

(Beer added by: aasher on 06-09-2011)
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t0rin0

California

3.25/5  rDev -9.7%

08-22-2012 01:42:45 | More by t0rin0
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djrn2

New Jersey

3.75/5  rDev +4.2%

12-02-2012 03:37:59 | More by djrn2
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Thorpe429

Illinois

3.58/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle picked up at Vintage Estate in Boardman, Ohio. After a poor experience with the Spirit Barrel version, I'm really hoping this is a serious step up. Served in a BFM goblet. Nose has a distinct rum presence. Flavor is moderately acidic with some cherry and white rum. Alcohol. Medium body.

Serving type: bottle

12-16-2012 19:55:13 | More by Thorpe429
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womencantsail

California

3.4/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks again, Bobby.

A: The beer pours a flat, opaque, amber color with almost no head.

S: Smells a bit funky and tart, some definite red wine vinegar with a bit of green apple and cherries. Some oak and vanilla with a definite rum aroma. Maybe a little bit boozy.

T: Vanilla and spicy oak with lots of rhum flavor. There's maybe a little bit of chocolate and tannins to it. Quite a bit of booze, maybe some light vinegar sourness, green apple, and lemon zest.

M: Medium bodied with almost no carbonation.

O: Way too boozy with the barrel dominating, and it doesn't really work out this way.

Serving type: bottle

09-17-2011 04:35:57 | More by womencantsail
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acurtis

New Jersey

3.5/5  rDev -2.8%

12-02-2012 03:37:37 | More by acurtis
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ygtbsm94

Virginia

3.25/5  rDev -9.7%

07-30-2013 00:42:33 | More by ygtbsm94
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MasterSki

Illinois

3.28/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle purchased from West Lakeview Liquors. Served in a Bell's tulip.

A - A hard pour rouses...nothing. Seems even more still than the other BFM Grand Crus. Orange-brown body that's transparent until the last pour.

S - The expected aromas of light vinegar, oak, and sweet malts is largely overwhelmed by oak and grain alcohol. If you concentrate hard there's some spiced rum presence that's been masked. As it warms up there's a light solvent/acetone flavor as well.

T - Taste is significantly better here, with less of the harsh alcohol and more overt spiced rum and sugar cane/candi sugar flavors. Less oak, but only mild acetic tartness. Faint oxidation is also present.

M - Lightly dry and tannic texture, still, medium-full body, and surprisingly little alcohol heat considering how spirit-heavy the flavor and aroma are.

D - Drinks more like diluted rum than like a BFM Grand Cru. I think the 'double wood(ing)' was probably too much for the base beer. Without a doubt the most disappointing of the series.

Serving type: bottle

01-22-2012 00:07:46 | More by MasterSki
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jlindros

Massachusetts

4.18/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to Chris Lively for breaking this out.

Pours no head with a maple brown color.

Nose is light tart sour malts, rum, toasted oak and vanilla, sweet candy, bit of malt vinegar and touch of fruit.

Taste has dark malts, light sweet sour malts, light tart fruit, hint of malt vinegar, light tart acidic, some light oak and vanilla, some rum barrel taste with woody barrel and light sweet rummy taste, light reddish fruit, great fruits, and a light buttery oak.

Mouth is lighter bodied but no carbonation.

Overall its a good beer, its fairly old and lacking carbonation, but great tart fruits and nice darker malts, despite that I'm not a huge rum fan it has some nice buttery rum and barrel flavors. Not sure on the date but it was a fairly old dusty bottle.

Serving type: bottle

07-22-2011 22:17:32 | More by jlindros
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Mora2000

Texas

4.33/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared at bu11zeye's 10,000th rating tasting.

The beer pours a light yellow-orange color with a white head. The aroma is incredibly complex. I get a ton of lemons and tart cherries, as well as some yeast, oak, tobacco and brett. The flavor is also complex but for different reasons. I get a lot of rum and oak notes, as well as some vanilla and toffee malt. There is also a nice tart cherry quality as well as some alcohol burn. Medium mouthfeel and low carbonation. Very nice.

Serving type: bottle

05-18-2012 04:53:38 | More by Mora2000
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stakem

Pennsylvania

3.43/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Smoked for sharing this with me. Poured into a cervoise, this brew appears copper in color. When held to the light, it looks more of a clear ruby through the body with orange through the edges. A rough pour yields a few large bubbles that fade quickly. Som faint spotty lace sticks to the glass.

The smell of this brew is sour with cherry quality. Oak is present imparting a bit of caramel sweetness and lots of vanilla. As the brew warms up, more cherry comes out mixed with solvent, burning alcohol that makes the nose change to something that is quite medicinal smelling.

The taste is fusel with alcohol with a very bold display of solvent character. A bit of aceytone comes out tasting of nail polish remover. Herbal at times with a very warming kick. Cherry makes itself known at times with some earthy notes before the onset of more burning alcohol. As the brew comes up to temperature it gets to be a chore to finish.

This is a medium bodied brew with almost no carbonation. The 11% abv is not hidden in this offering at all. The lack of carbonation really doesn't help any. There is an unrecognizable spirited accent to the booze quality of this brew making it solvent. It isn't "bad" but hardly compares to some other offerings I've had from this brewery. More carbonation would have gone a long way perhaps some aging and colder serving temperature would make this experience more enjoyable. Regardless, I am thankful for the opportunity to try it. Thanks again Dan.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2011 18:51:52 | More by stakem
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TurdFurgison

Ohio

3.08/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got to try this courtesy of normyk (thanks Rob!), side-by-side with 2006 & 2009 un-treated versions of Abbaye de Saint Bon-Chien (those courtesy of both Rob and Brad).

This poured nearly still, dark brown color with no head. There's a lot going on in the aroma, but unfortunately for me the rum and barrel seem to take away the funk. Boozy smelling, with some plums/raisins and oak.

The taste is again nice but nevertheless a let-down, no funk left in this beer. Just rum, barrel, dark fruits, maybe some cough syrup too. Pretty flat too, I guess that's somewhat appropriate for the style?

The final verdict from the vertical: The 2006 was sublime, my favorite by a mile. Next was the 2009 which was very good but definitely a level beneath the 2006, and finally this Rhum version was clearly the bottom tier. Not horrible, just not worth the very high coin it demands in stores.

Serving type: bottle

08-14-2011 20:11:47 | More by TurdFurgison
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afsdan

Colorado

4/5  rDev +11.1%

05-22-2014 18:44:09 | More by afsdan
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AgentZero

Illinois

3/5  rDev -16.7%

01-21-2012 01:45:53 | More by AgentZero
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bluejacket74

Ohio

3.43/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

375 ml bottle, 2010 vintage. Served in a Unibroue tulip, the beer pours a cloudy brown color with pretty much no head at all. Not much lacing, either. The brew smells like sweet and tart dark fruit, oak, vinegar and some rum. Taste is similar to the aroma, but there's the addition of some apple. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit slick with very low carbonation. I think this is an OK brew, but it's nowhere near worth the price ($18.99 a bottle). Still, it was nice to try it.

Serving type: bottle

08-31-2012 22:55:38 | More by bluejacket74
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aasher

Indiana

3.48/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer pours full bodied and very cloudy deep apricot. It poured smoothly without any bubbles or any head to speak of. The aromas are of sweet and sour dark fruits, light raisin, dehydrated apricots, perhaps light apple/Calvados, with a sour light alcohol finish. The flavors consist of funky apricots, light dark fruits, a moderate amount of alcohol, lightly sour apples, perhaps some light candied sugar. I don't actually get any rum barrel at all, which is odd. It was quite difficult to pick out the nuances of the flavors presented. It just didn't feature defined balance. There also isn't much of an aftertaste. In the middle of drinking this, we tried rum from Belize and it had the same type of aftertaste, mild vanilla and candied sugar. So that kind of put it in perspective. It has a very watery mouthfeel. Despite the thick looking pour it drinks very watery and is too easy to drink, and not in a good way. Overall this is an interesting brew but not close to being worth the $23.99 per 375ml bottle.

Serving type: bottle

06-09-2011 01:29:57 | More by aasher
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DavoleBomb

Ohio

4.15/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter. I love spelling rum as "rhum." Brewed in 2010, bottled in 2011. Big thanks to SteveFinny for this. This will be my third of the series (vin jaune, merlot).

2.5 A: Pours a completely still murky plum color. No evidence of carbonation.

4.5 S: Smelling this after having two grape barrel versions is not as different as I imagined it would be. The major aromas in this beer come from the base beer itself and not the barrel treatments. Big tart cherry fruitiness. I'll say it again because it's that apparent. Huge tart cherry fruitiness. Somehow this has a good bit more cherry than the other variants. Sherry next followed by apple, melon, plum, and lemon meringue. Big tangy lactic acid. The rum, or rhum, is complementary and diverts the aroma enough from the other variants to justify the different treatments. Oh, and it works really well. Vanilla and oak to round things out.

4.5 T: I like this one just as much as the merlot barrel, which is saying something. The rum works extremely well in this adding a sweetness that is entirely complementary to the otherwise dry fruitiness and funk. Again, there's an insane amount of cherry which is easily on pace with what you'd find in a kriek. Some sherry with a subtle cardboard oxidation. This is probably the sour-est of what I've had so far offering a good pucker to it. Apple is probably the next strongest fruit, with plum, melon, lemon, and grape. Rotting wood and musty basement type funk. Vanilla and oak.

3.0 M: Medium body. Flat, but it works well enough.

4.0 D: As evidenced by the merlot version, carbonation improves this beer and I think this would be better with some. Still, it's exceptionally complex and quite tasty as well. This is the least tannic-y of the three I've had and probably the best balanced as well.

Serving type: bottle

07-20-2012 20:00:50 | More by DavoleBomb
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jrenihan

Ontario (Canada)

3.88/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Brewed 2010, bottled 2011.

No fizz at all when the cap is popped off. Uh-oh. Beer is dark amber in colour, brownish. No head whatsoever.

Nose contains oak, rum, balsamic vinegar, some dark fruit.

Taste is like the nose. Oak is very strong, and the rum is strong but not overpowering. Moderately sour, with a vinegary and vinous flavour. Alcohol is well hidden. Some fruit flavours. The rum adds sweetness, and works fairly well. A bit of a rum aftertaste.

Full bodied, no carbonation. Quite mouth-drying, and somewhat heavy.

Overall, pretty good. Much better than the reviews make it out to be, in my view.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2013 20:30:29 | More by jrenihan
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jampics2

Ohio

3.7/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

375ml bottle at Lizardville, split with my wife. 2010 Grand Cru, aged in Rum barrels. $20.

The beer looks decent enough in the glass. It's nearly flat and a bit murky, as the brownish plum liquid swirls around the glass I'm reminded of prune juice. No worries, a quick vigorous swirl reawakens a few bubbles and makes this look good enough to drink.

The smell is complex and very pleasant, but lacks the expression I would like to see. Some barrel notes, mainly booze and oak, combine with a lacto sharpness, herbs and dark fruit. I get notes of fig, tart apple skin, cherry and some rum. Not the best beer ever but certainly not the worst.

The taste is very nice, but still falls short of the best examples of either sour beers or Bière de Garde that I've had. There's a good enough base beer here, with trademark herbs, oak and non-acetic sour lacto coming through. Some cherry and dark fruit fade into oak, a touch of vanilla, rum and some heat. The beer is sophisticated and very interesting, but the treatment doesn't showcase either the beer or the rum well enough for me.

The medium bodied beer has mild carbonation that makes it a bit lifeless. Overall, I liked the flavors here but think there are better beers for $20.

Serving type: bottle

06-14-2011 14:55:12 | More by jampics2
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crossovert

Illinois

4.72/5  rDev +31.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

I believe this is the beer I am reviewing. I believe it is the 2010 edition of this beer. I think this is the most expensive bottle i have purchased per ounce. Was gonna save it but it is my bday and i caved in.

It pours with little head, looks flat. It is a brownish grape juice color. Besides no head, not too bad.

The smell is great. There is grapes, tangy red fruits, lemon, sugar, oak, caramel, funk, and sourness. Funky berry scent seems to be the most noticeable and it is great.

The mouthfeel is flat but it doesn't matter, this beer is succulent and delicious. Much of the scents appear in the flavor, there is a bit more apple and a toned down level of sourness. The barrel aging becomes more apparent and there is a heightened level of sweetness. Rum comes thorugh a lot more in the flavor. Very vinous and winey, almost unsightly so. The flavor of this beer is just a beautiful symphony.

I have had quite a few uncarbonated (purposely) brews and this one is up there for the best.

Is it worth the price? Probably not, but this is a mindblowing brew if you can take the lack of carbonation. Maybe it was the Innis & Gunn rum cask last night that I had that is making this taste marvelous, or the Abyss I had before it, though I cleared my palate the best I could.

Serving type: bottle

11-18-2011 00:43:38 | More by crossovert
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Tucquan

Pennsylvania

3.45/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this on 2012-04-01 in Columbia, PA

A - Hazy brown with no head and no lacing. Fine particulates. No lacing or alcohol legs.

S - Dried fruits like cherry, plum, fig with definite yeast funk and some malt.

T - Sour cherries, grape and oak tannins, hint of the rum flavor, alcohol, some grapefruit flesh, light spice. Very dry.

M - Light body and almost no carbonation. A bit thin.

O - A decent brew that I paid WAY too much for. I expected wonderfulness and got OK.

Serving type: bottle

04-01-2012 18:59:42 | More by Tucquan
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DoctorB2B

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +11.1%

11-20-2011 16:07:05 | More by DoctorB2B
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Urbancaver

Ohio

3.58/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks normyk for this one

Pours a clear reddish orange. No real head to speak. Smells tart and sour. Maybe a touch of oak. Tastes astringent and weird off flavours. Harsh. Bitter, overall pretty rough compared to the base beer. The moth feel is thick but no real carbonation. Not nearly as enjoyable as other brews

Serving type: bottle

08-13-2011 18:40:50 | More by Urbancaver
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eduardolinhalis

Switzerland

4.18/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

375ml bottle poured in a Hoegaarden Tumbler.

A: Pours a cloudy brown color with practically no head and no lacings left

S: Acid and strong ABV. Woody. Quite fruity, lots of grapes and plums in the nose

T: Taste is a bless, really. Tart and fruity with a malty backbone. Very woody too. Metallic notes. You can actually feel the rhum. Fantastic

M: Heavy creamy body. Very low carbonation. Tart aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. Quite tart but delicious. Another BFM masterpiece

Serving type: bottle

03-11-2012 11:19:46 | More by eduardolinhalis
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Bouleboubier

Pennsylvania

2.33/5  rDev -35.3%
look: 1.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Sampled some a couple months ago from a bottle of the same collection - that was better than this, but still well short of amazing...

A: very cloudy/murky, dark amber or red-orange - no head, scant big bubbles pouring from a height - couldn't help some sediment falling in, fairly big flakes/chunks - totally looks bad/infected - not appealing at all...what is this supposed to be?

S: at first, it smells vaguely like an oud bruin or, better, an extra malty gueuze - certainly vinous (red) - little bit of a diaper scent - somehow, the alcohol doesn't poke through much at all

T: not good - no malt, just dull, vaguely estery flavors - near complete absence of depth or complexity - comes off as malt-wine blend that's just starting to turn awful - bordering on vinegar - ironically, not bad enough to spit out, but no enjoyment

M: like the taste, noticeably watery, primarily up front - a mellow honey-like (yet watery) roll in the finish - dry, but with a silky film coating the mouth - late alcohol warmth

O: maybe this could have been saved had they corked it? a lil méthode champenoise in this shit - I'll take the regular Bon-Chien any day over this

Serving type: bottle

01-15-2013 18:35:26 | More by Bouleboubier
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jwat

Pennsylvania

3.75/5  rDev +4.2%

06-09-2012 20:05:50 | More by jwat
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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Rhum Barrels) from BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
82 out of 100 based on 39 ratings.