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Mephistopheles' Stout - Avery Brewing Company

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Ratings: 1,719
Reviews: 797
rAvg: 4.18
pDev: 12.92%
Wants: 239
Gots: 507 | FT: 25
Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  16.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-06-2006)
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Photo of tewaris
3.28/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

16% ABV
107 IBUs
OG 1.134
12 oz. bottle of 2007 vintage, bottled 11/2007, shared with 3 other people, poured into small snifters.

I had been eying Mephistopheles for a long time, but never bought it because of its price until I found a cellared 2007 vintage at the regular retail price. Super excited to try it because I have heard only good things about aged Mephistopheles. Poured dark brown, but not as nearly dark as most bigger stouts, with a medium dark head that dissipated into a thin collar rather fast. No lacing on the glass.

Decent aroma but fairly generic if you ask me, roast and sweet malts, dried fruit... Not much of what I would expect from a 1.134 malt forward beer with 3+ years on it. Tastes rich with roast, dried fruit, prunes, and acidic (without coffee) and has a roasty astringent finish. Good.

Very thin and carbonated for its ABV, and not silky enough. A good stout yeah, but equally satisfying examples exist for half that ABV and price.

Scores: Appearance 3.5, Aroma 3.5, Taste 4, Mouthfeel 2, Drinkability 2

tewaris, Mar 06, 2011
Photo of cgmees
3.98/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

December 2010 12 oz bottle opened on a very cold Dallas night.

Poured a very thick with a dark tan head that quickly thinned out.

Slight chocolate and fruit aroma with promise of high alcohol.

First sip was overwhelmed with the bit of alcohol. Succeeding sips were nice with some nuts/roasted malt/chocolate and molasses flavor. This is definately a sipper, but very warm going down.

Definately full bodied with some syrupy mouthfeel

Good drinkability, but one is all that is needed with this alcohol to warm up the house.

cgmees, Mar 06, 2011
Photo of zaphodchak
3.75/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pour into tulip with opaque brown body and orangey head. Diminishes into some faint lacing.

Nose is alcohol, fruit is secondary, perhaps some pork?

Flavor is powerful malt, lingering coffee bitterness, and hoppy finish which is balanced by sweetness and caramel on the front.

Mouthfeel has enough carbonation to avoid becoming pure syrup.

Drinkability is low, because it's so intense. It's fantastic, but even a 12oz. is one to share.

Trying a Dec 2009 in March 2012, lots of soy sauce character.

zaphodchak, Mar 04, 2011
Photo of The3rdbeer
4.18/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into my Duvel Tulip aggressively comes up with 2 fingers nice really dark tan head, that is retaining nicely right now.

A: Dark as the demons inside this bottle, cannot get any light through glass, head is still there now at 1/2 fingers after 3 minutes. a nice foamy lacing after 6+ minutes

S: A little smokey, a little burnt, some dark spice, and booze there tingeing my nose

T: starts out malty, then immediately gets put in check by bitterness, some burnt toffee, bittersweet cocoa, dark chocolate, and just enough booze to warm the back of the mouth finishing smooth but you know what you are getting yourself into.

M: Love it, it drinks like a meal, viscous and syrupy but not cloying, a lot like what I love from Mikkeller beer Geek series, that warming sensation from the 15.10%ABV is pleasant and is a constant reminder of what you are drinking(unlike the beast)

D: I could drink this again and will! I have another bottle along with the samael and the beast, and I hear good things from cellaring websites, its a great sipper and its really enjoyable for my favorite style. great to top of a wonderful night of drinking great beers with friends or sitting celebrating a payoff from a lot of work (like I am!)

release the demons within!

The3rdbeer, Mar 03, 2011
Photo of Tabni
4.8/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled in November 2007 Batch 3 OG 1.134 Great smell of roasted coffee, warming up flavor. Wow very drinkable at the first sip, but then after, it becomes into an amazing happy strong brew. This is a pretty balanced stout and for $8 makes it a novelty one. Cherries, maybe plums and cappuccino all together into this beer that is stronger than wine.

Tabni, Feb 28, 2011
Photo of websherpa
4.1/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

I don't want to say this is the end all be all of imperial stouts. You will find others that will have higher ABV and you will find others with a bigger flavor. This beer excels at being approachable for the ABV.

Had a 2010 tonight and what stood out was the full but not syrupy thick body. In terms of thickness this was a almost bordering on a porter. The taste is malty and centered around a chocolate with notes of caramel and coffee.

This is kind of expensive, but if you want to see how well booze can be hidden give this a try.

websherpa, Feb 25, 2011
Photo of BeardedRiker
4.1/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

There are some beers that are insane. There is only one that I'd consider to be truly evil. Mephistopheles' Stout from Avery is known to even make women cringe! When I first saw the beer I was shocked by what I read on the bottle. I'm not sure there's a person out there who doesn't agree. Mephistopheles' Stout has a whopping 15.92% ABV. To put that alcohol content into context, your average wine is around 14% ABV. I mean...WTF Mephistopheles?! One fact that should be noted is that the beer that I drank was bottled on November of 2008. That's right, the Mephistopheles I'm reviewing is almost two years old! Basically, everything about this beer screams, "Insane!" But little did I know the beer would be true to its name...

Mephistopheles pours out a velvety blackness like depths of Hell. It's as if you're pouring midnight into your glass. Actually, it is not pitch black. It looks very much like a black coffee, with the edges being a dark brown. The head is toffee-colored, bubbly, a fizzles out much quicker than I expected it to. When you swirl Mephistopheles around in the glass you can see a clear line where it was, like swirling wine, as evidence of the beer's sweetness.

The aroma is rich and complex. To say it smells like coffee is an understatement. It's as if the beer was brewed along with roasted coffee. Sweet molasses and dark cherry and sweet/bitter raisin lay underneath with dark chocolate and smooth maltiness. It has an overall aroma of an aged beer too. As if the smell isn't strong enough, the taste certainly took me by surprise.

When you take your first sip of Mephistopheles' Stout you are not prepared for it. Sure, it is full of flavor but it will kick your ass whether you're a rookie or legendary beer drinker. Immediately your taste buds are bombarded with the rich and roasty coffee flavors mixed with dark cherry and raisin bitterness. The alcohol hits you early and hard too. It makes the beer "hot" and warms all the way down. On my first few sips I coughed from the alcohol until I was used to it. It's not like I expected anything less from a beer named after Mephistopheles! The cherry/raisin and molasses sweetness bring more flavor, enjoyment, and complexity to it while dark chocolate/cocoa notes add more richness. Trust me that it takes some time to get used to this beer. My favorite characteristic was that the dominant roasted coffee and sweetness flavors lingered in the finish for a very long time after the beer had already gone into my stomach. Mephistopheles' evil goodness stays with you by sticking to your tongue, mouth, and throat after every gulp. This uniqueness makes the drinking experience more enjoyable.

I'll be honest here, Mephistopheles' Stout is a great beer but it is not something I'd want to have repeated drinks of. The flavors are crazily good but strong and the alcohol is harsh yet balanced with it all. When you buy a beer called Mephistopheles' Stout, you know what you're getting into.

BeardedRiker, Feb 24, 2011
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4.43/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Most people find rock and roll to be a generally agreeable form of music. As the music gets more narrowly defined, so does its fanbase. The music get louder and more extreme, the fanbase follows suite, but the number of followers may drop off. Mephistopheles seems to be the punk rock of brews. It pours a thick head that quickly dissipates into nothing. The peer itself is extremely thick, giving a syrupy dark chocolate taste right to your face. You are left with a sort lingering bite, but overall, the massive ABV is largely hidden, at least to the drinker, though passers-by may notice the effects. One might also notice how sweet the beer is, with maybe a light tone of butter. Perhaps even slightly tart with a touch of spice. The aroma is very much of the roasted malts and coffee, but is somewhat subduded compared to the taste. This beer is black as black gets. Maybe it's just the bottle art, but the brew conjures up images of surpentine dungeons and doom unearthed. In this beer lies the devil. Surely, any chest will find more hair.

andrewm190, Feb 23, 2011
Photo of Elimination
4.25/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

November 2007 dated bottle says 16 percent on the label, found in whole foods in Bend

Pours a motor oil thick, glugging out of the bottle black as night. Very strong mocha colored head that dissipates quick after settling

Smell is strong coffee, warm chocolate, chared wood, molasses, black scorn sugar, a bit of a burn, probably coming from the higher abv.

Taste strong bourbon, charcoal, dark chocolate, deep coffee, smokey, has a oak bite to it. A bit of darker fruits, blackberry, a tad bit of darkened pie crust. This would honestly score a 5 if it werent for a over the top alcohol presence, yes it comes with the territory, and cant be avoided, but wow it really kicks you in the mouth.

Mouthfeel is super slick, tangy, tart, keeps with your tongue and coats it, very syrupy.

Drinkability, when it comes to something that is 16 abv, you cant really drink much of it, this is delicious but at the same time hard to swallow.

Elimination, Feb 19, 2011
Photo of MadBeerX
4/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This again tried after the 5 year mark. Bottled in 2006 - 16%

Honestly to keep this one short. It was remarkable. It was very swift and light footed for such an aggressive beer.

The aroma was there, all the flavors were intact, and it was noticeably complex.

Definitely surprised with the quality and integrity of this brew.

MadBeerX, Feb 19, 2011
Photo of TMoney2591
3.58/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a plastic tumbler.

Okay, I know I've had this before, but I can't remember anything about it. Let's see how things go this time... It pours a very dark sienna topped by a finger of dark tan foam. The nose comprises a ton of roasted malts, charred pretzel, and some light smoke. Whoa now. It's almost too much. Almost. The taste walks the same line, though the roast is not quite as dizzominant, some molasses and cedar are added to the mix, and a small boozy kick comes in at the end. The body is pretty hefty, with a very light moderate carbonation and a pretty chewy feel. Overall, this stout would be pretty nice were it not so overblown. I'll leave it at that.

TMoney2591, Feb 17, 2011
Photo of Foxtrot
4.05/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch 4. Bottled November 2008. Finally have a excuse to pull this out of the cellar, the weather finally got chilly in California.

A special beer like this calls for a special glass. My mid-sized cognac snifter will more than gladly hold and showcase this beer. Pours deep deep obsidian black with not even the faintest change of color around the edges. Head was in good abundance, being tan and lasting for about 8 minutes after the initial pour. A big stout like this needs a longer retention period.

The nose showcases some incredible aroma's that are to die for. Huge molasses, brown sugar, chocolate, vanilla and intense roasted coffee, and by far my favorite, black licorice. The licorice is just about damn near incredible. I get no hints of alcohol in the nose, thanks to the 2 years of aging.

This beer would be a chocolate lover's heaven! Intense notes of chocolate, some light roast and molasses, followed mid palate by dark currants more roast, some mild bitter hoppiness to balance out this incredible sweet brew. Black licorice and alcohol are in the finish. I pick up just the faintest hint of dark fruits, but is hard to really distinguish with the huge sweetness factor.

Mouthfeel is the highlight and heart of this beer. Thick and viscous, like used motor oil in a diesel truck kind of thick. Syrup coats the tongue and mouth with its gooey gracefulness. Hard to find any improvements for the mouthfeel.

Drinkability is limited, that's for sure. Its a great sipper Stout on a cold winter day, but be warned, the alcohol is hidden modestly but still got me pretty buzzed after a 12oz. serving. Good but not grand.

I'm glad I tried this, have had it kicking about for 2 years in my cellar and thought "this is as good a night as any". Cheers!

Foxtrot, Feb 16, 2011
Photo of Fenris244
4.13/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with a one finger tam head, great retention, the lace keeps clinging to glass and leave a good amount of residue, I always like it when beers do that

The coffee aroma is very strong and is almost the only thing I can smell, toffee, chocolate and licorice are certainly playing second to the onslaught of coffee, that being said I find the coffee to be pleasant ant the other aromas are a great accent. Caramel aroma is also pleasant and was only apperant after the beer warmed for bit.

Chocolate and coffee flavors are very strong, great coffee like bitterness follows, this stout is like a hammer to me, it's not that complex but full of a flavor punch nonetheless, the alcohol is well masked despite being above 16% and the strong flavor I think help to mask the power of this brew

Mouthfeel is almost syrupy but the amount of carbonation in my bottle is a nice contrast to the heavy flavors of the beer, it's certainly a sipping beer but at such a high abv I wouldn't expect much else.

Fenris244, Feb 16, 2011
Photo of notyourdadsbeer
4.4/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz batch 8 Avery's Mephistopheles poured into a snifter at Euclid Hall (Denver).

A: Head is a dark brown that recedes quickly with great lacing. The beer itself is deep, dark, black. Zero light passes through - fits the name if you ask me.

S: Rich, burnted, roasted malts. This goes beyond coffee into triple shots of espresso. There is a hints of sweetness - toffee- but it's truly espresso to the next level in terms of a bitter malted beer.

T: Amazing! Instantly your palate is hit with intense rich espresso and coffee flavors with just a touch of sweetness to mellow it out. This is a sipper. The malts are rich and complex and it nearly forces you to sip and enjoyed. The finish is strong and lingers. There is a touch of booziness on the finish but that's expected at 15.9% Outstanding!

M: Full bodied and rich. Coats your mouth and tongue very well. Carbination is on the light side allowing for the rich thick malts to linger.

D: Amazing beer and kudos to Avery. This beer is massive and intense and made for imperial stout fans and bitter beer loves everywhere. Potential to age 5 years or more are there. In fact i'd pick up a case of this and taste one each year for 6 years out just to see where it takes you. Avery is quickly becoming known as the aging brewery since their beers (this one as a prime example) are massive and intense and need time aging to bring all the flavors into fruition. Outstanding beer, pick up a case!

notyourdadsbeer, Feb 14, 2011
Photo of andrewinski1
3.2/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch 3, bottled in 2007. Got this from a BIF, thanks to Ben in Illinois! Poured into an Allagash tulip. Nice giant mocha head on top of a black body. Not too thick looking in the pour.

The smell is strong. Only a hint of booze, lots of chocolatey aroma and a hint of vanilla. I've smelled better, but this isn't bad.

Bitter chocolate start and a slightly hot finish. Nice vanilla in the middle. As I keep sipping the sting from the alcohol becomes a little more noticeable.

The mouthfeel would probably be creamy but my tongue is a little numb from the heat.

Not a bad sipper. Don't know if I'd seek it out again, but I might drink it again. I certainly can't complain for what it is.

andrewinski1, Feb 11, 2011
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3.55/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a chalice courtesy of my brother Andy. Thanks! Pours jet black with about a finger of rocky mocha head. I'm impressed with this given the high abv. It's eventually settles down to a cap of foam with sticky lace. The aroma on this is really rich. It's not all to different from your run of the mill stout but it's like it has be reduced to intensify the aromas. Lots of charred smokey aromas and fresh out of the jar molasses in the nose. The flavor is much like the nose just kind of seems intensified. Smokey molasses flavors; really a lot of sweetness going on here and some dark fruit undertones. The body seems a bit flat and it kind of seems to have an icy hot kind of feel. If nothing else the feel is pretty unique. As far as drinking this goes, I'd say it's about as easy as one of this style goes. I'm impressed out how hidden the booze are, it's just kind of warm going down.

Bendurgin, Feb 11, 2011
Photo of jayhawk73
4.3/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This big beer poured into a tulip glass. I can't imagine a darker beer. It's completely devoid of any light, almost like a black hole. Nice chocolate head, which thins out fairly quickly. The smell is surprising in that I don't detect any alcohol. Surprising for a 16% ABV stout. I mainly get chocolate and coffee w/ the smell. I was surprised that the smell of this beer is fairly subdued compared to the taste. The taste is fantastic. Almost like a taste bomb going off in your mouth. Coffee first, then chocolate w/ a hint of liqorice thrown in. Also LOTS of malt. The mouthfeel is amazing! It's like a journey w/ every sip. The taste lingers in your mouth long after you swallow too- fantastic! This is definitely a great stout that will warm your insides on a cold day- Highly recommended.

jayhawk73, Feb 05, 2011
Photo of PhiloPsych
4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Paid nearly $10 at Hi Time in Costa Mesa for a 12 ounce bottle.

Very dark brown color pouring into the bottle with a chocolate-colored head that dissipates quickly. Smell is strongly sweet, high in alcohol, with anise and molasses. Mouthfeel is incredible! It is thick, creamy, dry, then slightly sticky. Wow, I love it! The taste is a bit alcohol-hot, but there are so many other rich flavors that it isn't overwhelming. The taste has lots of dark chocolate and brown sugar, but the beer is not overly sweet.

PhiloPsych, Feb 04, 2011
Photo of CuriousMonk
4.22/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Paid a pretty penny for an individual 12oz beer ($7.99) poured into a snifter glass. Pours a nice pitch black color with a nice roasted brown head. The head evaporates fairly quickly and turns into a lacing. Aroma is very powerful and complex, i smelled it from just opening the bottle without putting my nose in it. The aroma is very roasted and sweet. I get booze, dried dark fruits like raisins and plum, vanilla, wood, liquorice, espresso coffee, and a slight burnt note. Flavor is also very complex and very roasted. There is alot of espresso coffee in the flavor, a charcoaly burnt note, liquorice, dried dark fruits, wood, slight and faint amount of hops, tobacco, a slight smoky note and booze. The body is full and creamy, with a very sticky oily mouthfeel. The high ABV is extremely well hidden thus making this a very dangerous (and drinkable) beer - couldn't have asked for a better logo to portray that warning. Overall an extremely complex and powerful imperial stout and a definite sipper.

CuriousMonk, Feb 01, 2011
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4/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a blackish body w/ slow dying one-finger head that is light brown colored. Roasted malts abound inthe aroma with a dry woodiness like oak and there are touches of molasses, bitter chocolate, toffee and black cherry as well as a touch of dark fruit. Very heavy, thick, creamy but flavors abound with a buttery stickiness - molasses, syrup, bitter chocolate, caramel, toffee and wood w/ hint of vanilla are all over. Not much of a hop or fruit flavor profile as malts are so intense they leave a cloying sweet sensation all over tongue. The high ABV is barely noticeable in the drink, although there is a "whiskeyish" finish that is crisp and strong. A well-designed brew you slowly sip on and savor.

clayrock81, Jan 31, 2011
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3.9/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Batch #4 (2008) poured into a white wine glass.

A-Pours coal black with an aggressive dark khaki head that sits for a long time. Eventually it receeds, leaving a small cap of foam and light, soapy lacing.

S-Wow, I can smell it from 3 feet away! Fruity, sweet, boozy. Like a broke-ass Dark Lord. This is gonna be a malt bomb.

T/M-A hell of a lot better than I expected, given the 15.92%ABV. This is pretty smooth. There's a well balanced smoky roastiness that's growing on me with every sip. Thin and sharp, but the ABV doesn't get in the way as much as it could. The body is soft at first, but becomes sharp and a bit hot mid palate, carrying through to the finish.

D-The best of Avery's strong beers. Wouldn't touch this one fresh, though. Give it at least 2 years.

DaveHS, Jan 31, 2011
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4.13/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a strong dark black with a thick muddy/ chocolate head which settles to a thin but solid layer with little to no lacing.

Strong caramel/ toffee nose, slight burnt smell, malty/ nutty.

Very rich, strong alcohol, burnt malts, chocolate, coffee, slight bitter notes.

Full, creamy but bitter, medium carbonation.

Strong, delicious but not a drink to have regularly.

breweryaprntc13, Jan 31, 2011
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4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from brief notes at a beer festival. 2008 vintage.

A: oil black and thick. small off white head. harder to tell as this was about a 3 ounce sample. Thick as hell.

S: Alcohol, burnt coffee, sugar, spicy at the end. The hops are coming through all the burnt malt. This is very complex.

T: Heat from the booze up front followed by a huge rush of burnt sugar and molasses. Amazingly bitter at the back of the mouth. NIce rotten dark fruit flavors of rasains and plums.

M: Thick and super chewy. Alcohol is burning my gums and the bitterenss is making my mouth pucker. my whole mouth is coated in this burnt sugary goodness.

O: This is a huge beer. Everything tastes burnt and bitter. My mouth is absolutely demolished. Love this but in very small amounts. A sipper for sure.

rrski198, Jan 30, 2011
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4.83/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A: Dark as night. Brief brown tinged head.

S: Dark roasted chocolate cake/malt.

T: Absolute decadence. Hints of molasses, dark caramel - more sugar than normal. If Bosco became a beer, this would be it.

M: Light carbonation and full body.

D: A bit steep at $8.99 a bottle but a great and unusual beer at over 16ABV. This one is a sipper - a warmer - yet no alcoholic burn even with the high ABV.

artdob, Jan 30, 2011
Photo of kiddwhiz
4.55/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

a: Black as oil, initial one finger caramel head settling in to a tan dusting.

s: Malt, sweet caramel, espresso, black liquorish, dark chocolate

t: Malty sweetness on the tip of the tongue which slides in to a smooth bitterness. Finishes with a taste of true dark, bitter chocolate. Great imperial stout!!

m: Creamy, dense, not in a hurry, perfect amount of carbonation.

d: This is very drinkable for being north of 15% ABV! I've always described this beer as a perfect addition (maybe the main attraction) to a good movie. It's a beer that sticks around and evolves as it warms. Well done Avery Brewing!

kiddwhiz, Jan 30, 2011
Mephistopheles' Stout from Avery Brewing Company
93 out of 100 based on 1,719 ratings.