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Mephistopheles' Stout - Avery Brewing Company

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1,710 Ratings

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Ratings: 1,710
Reviews: 796
rAvg: 4.18
pDev: 12.92%
Wants: 236
Gots: 506 | FT: 24
Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  16.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-06-2006)
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Photo of Winter
2.53/5  rDev -39.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

I was really looking forward to trying this. I've had some really good beers from Avery in the past and was eager to taste their take on an American Double Stout. Attractive black metallic label show a black demon (presumably Mephistopheles) with silver highlights and piecing red/yellow eyes. Very cool.

The stout pours black in color with a thick creamy tan head. Impressive for a stout of its strength (16.03% listed). At that strength, usually you're lucky to generate any sort of head and this stuck around for awhile.

Vinous aroma, although there's something amiss about it... I can't quire describe it. There's also dark fruit (cherries) and plenty of alcohol. Feint caramel emerges past the alcohol.

The mouthfeel is full-bodied. First sip of this powerful brew is awkward. It's very, very boozy and not balanced at all. Any sort of stout flavors (chocolate, roasted malt, caramel) are all kicked to the background by the alcohol. This one is hot. I can sort of make out some dark fruit and murky malt, but it's not flavorful at all. Sadly, even if this was laid down for awhile, and trust me, this could sit for a LONG while. I'm not sure if it would actually improve at all. There's just nothing in the background that emerges where even if the alcohol mellowed, what would come through, wouldn't necessarily be worth waiting for.

This was a disappointment, lacking in flavor and overpowered by the alcohol. It just didn't blend very well with the rest of the flavors that may have been intended here.

Winter, Apr 15, 2007
Photo of rallison
4.4/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Jet black with a 2 finger light brown head that actually lasts for a bit - how is that possible for a 16% stout??

S: Smells of dark chocolate, dark fruits, espresso, cocoa, rum and some alcohol - although not nearly as much alcohol as I would have expected.

T: Mmmm, very nice. Lots of dark chocolate, with tons of plums, dark fruits and rum! Also has a lot of port-like characteristics - as another reviewer pointed out, this drinks in some ways like a red wine. Some hops back there too, but the main bite is from some warming alcohol. Interestingly though, the alcohol finally doesn't detract from the beer, as is the case with many of Avery's extreme beers. This one is nice and warming, but I wouldn't call it too hot (the Beast comes to mind when it comes to way too hot beers). This makes Old Rasputin taste like a Guinness.

M: Thick, thick and thick. Just enough carbonation to keep it lively.

D: I've got to give it points here. For 16%, this is pretty drinkable.

I was hesitant to buy this based on my experience with The Beast and Samael's, but I'm glad I ended up getting it. This is one solid beer. Like your Imperial Stouts strong enough that you can eat it with a fork? This is the beer for you. Highly recommended.

rallison, Apr 12, 2007
Photo of objectivemonkey
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The first batch of 2006. Into a chalice, pours a devilishly dark black, a full finger of dark tan head settles to a thin film, lacing in tan sheets. The aroma is already evident when opened. Upon further inspection, its even more potent than expected. Lots of alcohol, lots of molasses, lots of espresso, dark fruits, craziness, and mean spirited angry hookers. No joke.

The taste is dark, roasted, mean and potent, burnt caramels, lots of dark fruits, raisins, molasses, a coffee hangover, I mean alcohol hangover, all kinds of dark nastiness... that is sooo good. The mouth isn't simply warm... its burning hot, and I like it. Its also thick, full bodied, almost no carbonation, syrupy, reeeedonculous. This one is still pretty raw, at a year and a half old, and I can imagine it being one wack brew in a few years. As it is, its still damn good, quite untamed, but its a cure for headaches, so definitely good.

objectivemonkey, Apr 11, 2007
Photo of Sycodrummer
5/5  rDev +19.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured from the 12oz. black with red foil wrapped bottle into an oversized snifter. About half the bottle in for the first sample with an aggressive pour to pull out the head and release aroma. The beer was jet black with hints of ruby near the edges. The head was one-finger of thick and creamy tan coating on top. Lots of tiny carbonation bubbles clung to the glass and the head faded quickly. A motor oil like look from the top.

The nose is very boozy with big aromas of rum and bourbon soaked dark fruit. Plum and fig coming through and a huge chocolate aroma. Lots of dark roast coffee and expresso in the nose and a hearty roasted malt aroma.

The taste hits with a big roasted flavor. A huge chocolate layer cake like moist chocolate flavors backed with strong coffee and expresso flavors. The chocolate and coffee meld very well and are backed up with a huge boozy base. This is some strong stuff. Low carbonation levels make it very brandy like, and the alcoholic warmth is intense. Half a bottle and you feel the power of the beer. As the beer warms it becomes even more boozy. This is a cold night sipper and the way, and a very good one.

Mouthfeel is big and bold, gets a little thinner with warmth, never cloying or syupy. Minimal carbonation levels, brandy like mouthfeel.

Wow, this is one big and delicious beer. Lots of nice boozy character with a huge warming. A one and done beer all the way but perfect to sit and sip. The flavors meld beautifully and although strong, it doesn't dominate in any one area to detract from the others. At 7 bucks for 12oz. it is expensive, but it is well worth it. A very very enjoyable beer.

Sycodrummer, Apr 07, 2007
Photo of JohnnyDuvel
3.85/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance was exactly like the Kalamazoo stout that preceded it. That was where the similarities ended! Sweet, with a bit of a soy sauce taste (but not enough to really detract). Quite alcoholic and warming (as expected). Somewhere between a Czar and maybe Le Coq? This is nice if you're in the mood (it was medicinal for me tonight). Not as satisfying as Worldwide, but not as hard to drink as Le Coq. Interesting (as is usually the case with Avery, one of my favorite breweries).

JohnnyDuvel, Mar 28, 2007
Photo of muffguy4beer
2.63/5  rDev -37.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Poured from 12 oz. bottle into pint glass.

Appearance: Deep dark black with a half inch dark tan head. Strong lacing.

Smell: Smokey, roasted barley. Hints of coffee and bitter chocolate. Very pungent smell.

Taste: Alcohol is very noticeable. Not very balanced at all. Bitter chocolate, coffee. Finishes a little sweet.

Mouthfeel: Thick, heavy syrup.

Drinkability: Totally unbalanced therefore pretty undrinkable. I had to sip my way through half of a bottle and i don't think i would have enjoyed the other half. It seems that they were brewing big just for the sake of brewing big.

muffguy4beer, Mar 16, 2007
Photo of hammer09
3.5/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

One word: Wow!

This beer is huge. Avery Mephisopheles' Stout pours a brownish-black with a half inch thick, smooth, foamy, brown head. Head retention is excellent and lacing is thin, yet consistent. Smell is sweet and estery; reminiscent of a Belgian ale. Aroma has hints of apple, grape, and a mild, leathery, earthiness. Taste is very sweet at the front with a faint roasted finish. Powerful malt presence with slight bitterness. Any hops used in the beer appear lost in comparison to the malt. Mouthfeel is very warming and alcoholic. Thick and syrupy, but good carbonation. This beer is best sipped. Slowly. A very good beer, but one not to be taken lightly nor consumed quickly.

Personally, I want to give this beer a rating of 4 for both smell and taste, but I'm trying to rate this according to its style. It's listed as an American Double Stout, but I'd have to say that a hybrid descriptor such as "Belgian Imperial Stout" would more accurately describe this brew, given its complex aroma.

hammer09, Mar 13, 2007
Photo of Osiris9588
4.28/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, nOv 2006. pOurs motor oil black, with a cappuccino colored head. Good retention, slight lacing.

The aroma rather sweet, coffee laced with licorice. The flavor follows, slightly toasty. The alcohol is present, but not overwhelming. The mouth is big and full, a bittersweet amiguity on the finish. I'd never turn this down.

Osiris9588, Mar 11, 2007
Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
4.43/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle. bottled in November 2006 and poured into a large snifter. The lable reads...16.03 % ABV.

AP: Black as the deepest night, totally opaque under a one-finger deep mocha-brown colored head that is ultra tight and dense. Very impressive looking head...Welcome to the Darkside!!!

Smell: Sweeeet caramel malt, vanilla, mochachino, freshly baked brownies and new hard-wood floors with a big Alcohol heat tickling the nose. Very aromatic indeed.

Feel & Flavor: YOWZA! this is a beast, a big-full bodied beast with a massive alcohol presence, very in-your-face heat that makes your mouth buzz as if it was scotch whiskey. Insanely sweet malt, I'm talkin' Mapl-syrup and brown sugar-like sweetness. Perhaps the sweetest Stout I've ever had. Believe it or not, there is balance achieved here wih a bitter-dry hopped sensation tweaking the flavor. Other not-so intense flavors pop out such as, oak-wood, brandy, Hershey's chocolate syrup and overlly ripe red fruits like black Berries, blue berries and red grapes. There's also a fermented berries effect which gives it a very unique and subtle sourness.To finish off the flavors it ends with a subtle spicey and zesty hop flavor that mellows and becomes earthy and leafy in the after-taste. Overall, one of the most intense and extreme flavored brews I've ever had. AND I just had a 11.2 oz Samichlaus Bier the other day!! That almost seems tame compared to this one. This one demands to be sipped and savored over a long period of time. Maybe a bit too sweet and perhaps the alcohol profile is way to big for a beer....FUNK THAT! Bring it on!! This beer blew my mind. The name of the brew is very appropriate, Mephistophele's...the shape shifter which is great because the flavors are ever-changing and complex.

DA: This brew at 16% packs an insane buzz for only a 12 oz bottle, This had a muhc bigger alcohol profile than even the DFH 120 IPA I felt. This beer should be sipped slowly and with caution.

GratefulBeerGuy, Mar 06, 2007
Photo of Phatz
4.33/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch 2
16.03% ABV

I was expecting to love this beer. A huge impressive stout. Well... I must say it is a little too big. It felt burnt and hot and a bit rough. I did enjoy it tremendously but it did not blow WWS out of the water or anything so yes it is awesome though it is not my new favorite beer.

Appearance: Pours black with a brown head that fades to cap a that lasts for a while. by the end of the beer it had spread to just a ring around the glass.

Smell: Very dark. Burntness. Molasses. Carmel chocolate plum and alcohol.

Taste: Roasted malts molasses, cocoa espresso bitter sherry / port like alcohol. lots of hot alcohol. It is a sipping beer.

Mouthfeel: Exceptionally sweet with sugar and alcohol from beginning top end.

Drinkability: This beer is not one that I found very refreshing. It is flavorful and *Extreme* but ... I guess the setting needs to be right. I'll try it again. It is HUGE!

Hope this is helpful.

Phatz, Mar 06, 2007
Photo of MuenchenerKindl
3.93/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle to a pint glass the carbonation on this very fresh and very dark black brew is BIG, almost or about too big. A four finger head fades to two fingers that are two tone cocoa and frosty fan. lots of lace is left in the wake.

The smell is alcohol heat with dark chocolate and some coffee.

The Taste is nice and getting better, I'm up-grading some scores as I drink. The taste is not as good as I would think so far but nice. Lots of bitter going on plus extremely dark roasted malt. I can see why folks want to sit this down for a spell. Coffee and chocolate are the best descriptor for the main body of the roasted malt. I am also getting a sweet almost licorice that seems to come from the hops, however the malt adds some burnt toast to it also.

The mouthfeel is good but about par for a huge beer like this.

The drinkability and this way fresh stage is not as high as it should get later. I will revisit later. Prosit, MK

MuenchenerKindl, Mar 06, 2007
Photo of beertastegood
4.55/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled Nov. 2006.

Pours an inky black with a tiny head that is pulverized by the very...large...amount of alcohol.

Aroma: toffee, chocolate, rum, plum, raisin, molasses...complexity is amazing. Alcohol is powerful to say the least, but it does not overwhelm the nose. Excellent.

Very sweet at first, followed by an intense rum-like fruitiness and an astringent roastiness that keeps it from being too sweet. Fades into a wisp of hop flavor (tastes like standard American C-hops). Alcohol flavor is noticeable, but again not overly so. However, this beer warms the throat every time it goes down. Finish is bittersweet roastiness, like 70% cacao dark chocolate, with a slightly salty hop bitterness (I get this attribute from columbus, which Avery seems to be fond of). Outstanding flavor and a wonderful sipping beer.

Mouthfeel: Thick & chewy, medium carbonation keeps it from being too syrupy.

Drinkability: Very good for anything over 12%.

Samael's Ale has been one of my favorite beers for a while now, and I was very excited to get this here in Houston - it did not let me down. Looks like I will be shelling out some more cash to get some more of these to age.

beertastegood, Mar 06, 2007
Photo of westweasel
3.6/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

The beer is jet-black with a tall, tan head filled with large bubbles. It looks excellent!

The smell is dominated by molasses. I'm also getting strong roasty and coffee scents.

The taste is extremely strong roasted coffee and molasses. There is some strong bitterness in the aftertaste that might mellow nicely with age.

The mouthfeel is all full with heavy carbonation and a bitter finish.

The drinkability is ok. I'm going to have a hard time finishing this glass. The taste is good in small doses, but not in full pints. I enjoy other Strong Stouts much more.

westweasel, Mar 02, 2007
Photo of jjayjaye
3.65/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Part of a 12 oz serving poured into an EKU28 snifter.

Opaque black color... that's not a tan head, that's a bold foamy brown head that resists fading. As the head settles down to the surface, tiny eruptions reveal an underlying carbonation. Once it’s settled, it’s gone. Little lacing remains.

The smell is predominantly the oaked bourbon. Peering timidly from beneath the giant aroma of alcohol is a dark roasted malt and coffee (use your imagination).

The mouth feel is also primarily that of a top drawer liquor. Medium body, smooth aggressive bourbon twinge surrenders a mild lingering roast malt experience.

The flavor isn’t your father’s ‘stout’. This beverage’s drinkability suffers from the huge presence of the 16.03%.

jjayjaye, Mar 02, 2007
Photo of russpowell
3.85/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Born on Nov 06, batch 2

Pours Jet black with 2" milk chocolate colored head. A little bit of lacing & a hint of film

S: Slight hints of iron & a little bit of raisins

T: Baker's choclate, a little iron ,some raisins & alcohol warming up front. Dryness follows along with more alcohol burn. A little bit leather & a some bitter chocolate. Finishes cakey, dry with more chocolate & little burnt coffee

MF: Rich bodied, low carbonation. Starts becoming chewy as this warms up

Drinks pretty good for the abv, but a real fire-side sipper. Not as smooth as xxx from bristols but still a good one to lay down (thought I would this one, but there you go).

Again, where's the tripple stout category? This beer will always suffer when compared to stuff in the 9-11% abv range IMO

russpowell, Feb 23, 2007
Photo of guitarmage
4/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Black with an excellent sticky tan head that doesn't go away, about a half inch of foam.

Smell: Strongly fruity and sweet, alcoholic, some black coffee.

Taste: Ripe fruits and malt, and warm alcohol runs around, some coffee and a biscuity finish, dry, cocoa.

Mouthfeel: Lightly carbonated, crisp and smooth.

Drinkability: This is good, on the sweeter side, very flavorful, alcoholic, a solid stout.

guitarmage, Feb 14, 2007
Photo of oelergud
4.05/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottled in Jan 2006, batch 1.
Opaque deep mahogany body. Creamy dark brown head with pretty good retention and lace. Good carbonation up the side of the glass.
Rich, full, brown sugar, molasses sweet malts in the nose. Clear alcohol fumes to be detected along some almond and faint coffee.
Intense sweet malts with very strong alcohol notes up front. Some hop balance is present and comes to its fullest in the aftertaste though even that is not much.
Full and dense mouthfeel with some good coating.
Drinkable as a sipper.
The alcohol smell and flavor could have been less obvious in this brew and made it more desirable. Nevertheless, this is a beer to try for anyone adventurous.


oelergud, Feb 10, 2007
Photo of nase
4.08/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. Bottled in Nov. 06 - Batch 2

First thing I noticed was the dark tan head. Virtually no lace after a while. The alcohol scent is SO strong and being over 16% (per website), the alcohol is quite potent in the taste as well. Goes without saying to age this one. Would be interesting to try this next to a WWS. I'm guessing they're not too far off from one another. All in all, an excellent brew.

App - 4, Smell - 4.5, Taste - 4, Mouth - 4.5, Drink - 3.5

nase, Feb 09, 2007
Photo of Oxymoron
3.78/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2.5

It says here Mephistopheles was a crafty shapeshifter that does not like light. After drinking this 16.02% beer, I start seeing the lights start shifting and soon my eye lids blinding me. The pour is a viscous black color with a decent head to start but disappears quickly although. I really like the "motor oil" viscous quality,

The nose is no surprise, very pheonlic. Mostly sweeter malts with some darker-esk malts coming out, like roasted and patent. Some fruity esters as well, mostly figs and prunes. Some lighter notes of licorice.

The taste is big. No big! No BIG! A big malty presence with a even bigger phenolic finish. There are chocolate and darker caramel malty flavors with a lactic finish leaving a somewhat milky finish. The phenolic value is in high gear with some heat. Some oak aged esters as well, such as vanilla and woody finishes as well.

The body is thick and viscous. Carbonation is limited but understandable. Drinkibility falls due to the heavy phenolic value and big ABV, but I really did enjoy this beer.

Oxymoron, Feb 07, 2007
Photo of dherling
4.63/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured out darth vader black, thick creamy light brown head. The nose has bunches of dark roasted coffee, some hops, dark fruit, and alcohol. The taste is an eruption of flavors, coffee, wood, pine, leather, tobacco, dark chocolate, sherry, pine resin, cherry, it keeps going and going. Fantastic! Has a fairly sharp mouthfeel, with a long slow burning finish. The alcohol is masked extremely well.

dherling, Feb 07, 2007
Photo of Phyl21ca
3.58/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Beerandblues2 (Batch #1 – Bottled January 2006 Drank February 2007): Poured a pitch-black color stout with a big foamy head with great retention and lacing. Aroma of light coffee and sweet malt. Taste is totally dominated by sugar with some light coffee and some light warming alcohol. This is definitely a sipper and not something I would drink too often as it is way too sweet for my personal taste, with way too much pure sugar (à la cane sugar). Alcohol had probably time to disappear a bit after one year of cellaring. Overall, an interesting takes on the style and better then some other Avery’s big bees.

Phyl21ca, Feb 05, 2007
Photo of CAMRAhardliner
4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a thick viscous black with ruby edges. The head is dark tan and much bigger then I expected from a beer of this weight. It dissipates pretty quickly leaving meandering lace trails behind. The aroma is huge and full of chocolate, espresso coffee, piney hops and some spicey alcohol, very very nice. The taste is roasty with a sugarcane sweetness and and a good dose of hop bitterness and alcohol heat. The mouthfeel is nearly syrupy with very light carbonation. The finish is long and bitter, very roasty and sticky with malt sugars.

This is one kick ass stout. Its packed with flavor and has a good deal of hop bitterness. The alcohol is always noticeable, but is less apparent then many beers of half the ABV.

CAMRAhardliner, Feb 04, 2007
Photo of dbalsock
4.08/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

App: Poured very black with reddish hues and a dark brown head that lasted almost until I finished drinking the beer (probably about 1hr 30min at least). Some lacing, but not the most attractive lacing and it disappears somewhat quickly.

Smell: The nose was faint, but I picked up a chocolate covered strawberry scent. It was pretty nice, but hid a lot of the quality of the brew.

Taste: The chocolate (sweater than bakers chocolate) comes through, along with the strawberry fruitiness. There are hints of coffee, but not as strong as other stouts. Some mild pine hops, but nothing to write home about. As it warms to room temperature other flavors diminish and the alcohol becomes more noticeable.

Mouthfeel: It was bitter because of darker malts, but there wasn't a lot of hop action going on. The alcohol became much more intense as it warmed and contributed negatively to the mouthfeel, making it more overpowering than I would have liked. While it was colder, the alcohol wasn't nearly as noticeable as one would expect (the bottle said the abv was 16.03%).

Drinkability: I would gladly have this in my cellar and try again fairly often. It's definitely for sipping and it took me a long time to finish off a 12 ounce bottle, but I could drink this again tomorrow and be happy about it... and the next day too.

dbalsock, Jan 29, 2007
Photo of DogFood11
3.8/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle with 15 months of care under its belt. Poured into a snifter it forms a sizeable, brown, loose head that leaves sticky mountainous lace. Oil slick consistency and color.

First pull has me kabuke'd out. This is incredibly aggressive. While thats not entirely unexpected considering the brewery, I think they've outdone themselves with this one. Dopplebock like fruity underlying goodness that is squashed by this immense, thick, rich, and a huge charred bitter backdrop. Enough balance to make this enjoyable. Smoked and charred make up the body with the smoked side winning out.

Notes: Belly warming goodness. While I liked this offering, I couldn't see this being more than a 3 or 4 bottle a year type purchase. Some novelty to it, some goodness to it. Overall its just OK.

DogFood11, Jan 29, 2007
Photo of Mebuzzard
4.28/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A dark pour like a stout should be. The head is small, brown and sticks to the side before going away.
Smells of coffee, cocao and some caramel. Alcohol breaks up the stickiness and sweetness. I can make out dark plum, raisin and perhaps a bit of anise.
Taste is fantastic. Combines all the aromas together nicely. Some spice creeps in before the finish. Alcohol makes surprise appearance at the end, a nice burn that is coated by the roasted left overs.
I like.

Mebuzzard, Jan 28, 2007
Mephistopheles' Stout from Avery Brewing Company
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