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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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88
very good

1,320 Ratings
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Ratings: 1,320
Reviews: 696
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 10.49%
Wants: 33
Gots: 143 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007)
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Photo of Sammy
4.28/5  rDev +9.5%

A good Belgian strong with pleasing wine-like tannins and a bit on the tart cherry side. Not for the novice as much as one who appreciates the above. Dark reddish brown and yeast and wine-like aromas. Medium mouthfeel. Very quaffable. One of the best Avery products.

Sammy, Sep 30, 2007
Photo of t0rin0
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%

I read about this on the Avery website a while back and I thought it was really neat idea but I never thought Id get to try one. I tried it out of a 22 oz bottle and poured into a pint glass.

It was darker than I expected it to be considering that the Avery Salvation was a golden color. It was kind of a coppery color and had a thick creamy head.

It smelled sweet and a bit fruity. It tasted about the same. The only difference being some of the darker malts came out in the flavor. It tasted good but not quite as spectacular as the Avery website would have us believe.

Mouthfeel was typical for a belgian beer, not too heavy not too light. Very drinkable beer, quite smooth. Would like to have more of this to get me through the hot days ahead.

t0rin0, Sep 07, 2007
Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%

A - Pours a opaque dark iced tea color with a 1/2 inch tan head to a small cap. Quickly fading lace rings form.

S - Smells of earthy spices, dark fruits, and yeast.

T - Dark fruits, bitter yeast, and dark brown sugar.

M - Good carbonation but creamy in the mouth. There is a pronounced bitter/acidic quality present.

D - Good beer with a weird bitterness to it. I like the idea of mixing brews from different companies after each brew has been made (as opposed to a single brew that is made using ideas from different companies like the Stone collabs).

UCLABrewN84, Jun 26, 2010
Photo of djrn2
4/5  rDev +2.3%

djrn2, Nov 24, 2011
Photo of Thorpe429
3.83/5  rDev -2%

Had on tap at the Sunset Grill outside of Boston. Excellent selection.

A: Dark orange with sort of a rusty look. Slightly cloudy with a good white head. Nice lacing.

S: Sweet with some fruit characteristics. Some of the traditional Belgian esters--I always seem to get bubblegum.

T: Sweet with candied sugar and a good deal of complexity. Some tartness. A nice malt base. Some fresh fruit flavors.

M: Good, creamy mouthfeel. Nice and smooth. I love it.

D: Highly drinkable for the style and abv. Perhaps too much for an extended sitting, but something I'm glad I can get in bottle form back here in Chicago.

Thorpe429, Apr 22, 2009
Photo of zestar
4/5  rDev +2.3%

zestar, Jul 13, 2014
Photo of nmann08
4/5  rDev +2.3%

nmann08, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of metter98
3.93/5  rDev +0.5%

A: The beer is hazy reddish brown in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a thin off-white head that quickly faded away, leaving only some delicate lacing on the surface and a ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: There are moderately strong aromas of dark fruit, spices and yeast in the nose.
T: The taste is very similar to the smell and has some initial sweetness with hints of brown sugar and caramel while the finish has some notes of spices.
M: It feels medium-bodied and smooth on the palate with a light amount of carbonation. There is some dryness in the finish and hints of warming from the alcohol.
O: The beer is quite drinkable for the style because it’s a bit lighter in body and doesn’t have as much alcohol content, although it does match up quite well with other Belgian Strong Dark Ales when it comes to taste and aroma.

Note: Batch #5, Bottled in January 2011

metter98, Jul 07, 2011
Photo of brentk56
4.05/5  rDev +3.6%

Appearance: Pours a burnt caramel color with a modest head that drops to a ringlet with a murky foam covering the surface of the ale; some lacing

Smell: Caramel; some sour yeasty notes; some rum-soaked raisings and a whiff of alcohol

Taste: Starts with a complex caramel flavor, with hints of coriander, tobacco and prune entering by mid-palate; after the swallow; the bitter and peppery elements grow considerably into the finish; along with the alcohol

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with lively carbonation

Drinkability: I prefer the RR to the Avery and I notice that this beer starts out like the RR but the Avery elements become more apparent after the swallow; letting this beer age a year or two tones down the bitterness and makes it a superior BSDA, in my opinion

brentk56, Jul 15, 2007
Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.43/5  rDev +13.3%

Rust orange with a hint of brick red and a fine yeasty haze. The whipped creamy crown is an appealing shade of golden beige and has enough stickiness to maintain multiple foam bridges between itself and the glass. Meandering fingers of thick lace look good as well.

The nose contains all sorts of wonderful things. It's sweet and tart fruity, as well as being impressively clove spicy. I guess that's what happens when two such different beers are blended. At least when the brewers of those beers are as talented as Vinnie Cilurzo and Adam Avery. So far, the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts.

The same notion applies to the flavor profile, although I'm not yet convinced that the taste score will reflect it. Having said that, I still have a long way to go. First impressions suggest that what was best about each individual Salvation counters what was less than ideal about the other.

I found Avery Salvation to be slightly lacking in complexity, a bit too boozy and probably too highly hopped for the style. On the other hand, it was enjoyably sweet and orchard fruity. I found Russian River Salvation to be lacking in complexity as well, to be too sour for the style, but to be pretty tasty in all other respects.

CNLA is beautifully balanced. It isn't too sweet, too bitter or too sour, but is just right. Actually, this is what I'd hoped Russian River Salvation would taste like. That beer just needed more sweetness and less sourness.

The brewers won't divulge the proportions of each beer used, so I'll take a stab at it. How about Russian River Salvation (68.43%) and Avery Salvation (31.57%)? The flavor profile consists of bruised bananas and ripe apples swimming in a cocoa, caramel and candi sugar syrup, sprinkled liberally with ground clove. I don't know if this fine ale was this delicious initially, but I have the feeling that one year of rest has done it a world of good.

It isn't a bit surprising that two beers with good mouthfeels would equal one beer with a good mouthfeel. I didn't expect improvement here and didn't get it. To repeat something that I might have said in the other reviews, the body/mouthfeel is more than satisfactory for an American ale, while falling short of what is expected from a Belgian or Belgian-style ale. It's medium with a less than completely volumizing carbonation and a light stickiness on the finish.

I reviewed Russian River Salvation several weeks ago so that I could review Collaboration Not Litigation Ale having tasted each of its component parts. What I hoped would happen did, in fact, happen. The strengths of each beer collaborated and counteracted their individual weaknesses. This deserves to be a seasonal release if they can work out the logistics.

Avery Brewing Salvation: 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.0
Russian River Salvation: 4.5, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.05

BuckeyeNation, Feb 03, 2008
Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +2.3%

Bottle courtesy of Demcorhip: Poured a cloudy deep copper color ale with a nice foamy head with good retention. Aroma of sweet malt and medium funky yeast is pretty interesting. Taste of sweet malt is mix with some subtle sour notes and some light funky yeast. Body is quite full with some adequate carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Overall, this seems like a good concept but I still think I would prefer having my own bottle of RR salvation instead of this.

Phyl21ca, May 16, 2007
Photo of BEERchitect
4.33/5  rDev +10.7%

If the Belgians can blend lambics, then why can't we blend Dark Ales. The result is a wonderful beer, chalked full of sweetness, tartness, spiciness, and character. The results are very common to the Avery Salvation, but with a sweeter, mellower, less-bitey, lower-strength brew. Well concocted and well matured. Since I have never tried Russian River's Salvation, I don't know how they compare. The beer starts off with a deep mohogany hue, slight of opaque. Well headed and carbonated, with no suprises. Spicy-sweet, earthy, and estery aromas, as most good Belgian Darks. Tastes are heavy on the malts, showing figs, dates, apples, berries, grapes, and light molassas. The feel is full and rich, without becomming cloying or chewey. Light astringency and residual sweetness lingers in the mouth, due to lighter hopping rates. A terrific brew, expecially for the price. This combination makes Black-'n-Tans look silly.

Thanks Pwoody! (04/09/10)

BEERchitect, Apr 25, 2007
Photo of mikesgroove
4.53/5  rDev +15.9%

Poured a beautiful clear brown with a huge frothy head. Smell was very spicey, grassy and earthy tones with a hint of sweetness. The taste was classic belgian and very nicely done. Fruitness and spices predominate, no hint of alcohol, which at 9%abv is incredible. Really smooth and effortless in drinkability. This is a fantastic brew, way too easy to drink, honestly the easiest 9% I have ever had. This is a must get as it is remarkable.

mikesgroove, Jan 31, 2007
Photo of Texasfan549
4/5  rDev +2.3%

Texasfan549, Jan 08, 2012
Photo of kjkinsey
4/5  rDev +2.3%

kjkinsey, Dec 02, 2011
Photo of womencantsail
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%

Batch #3

A: A dark orange/amber color with a thin layer of white foam.

S: Spice, yeast, orange peel, caramel, and candi sugar.

T: Very similar to the nose with spice, raisins, caramel, and toffee.

M: Medium body, coats the tongue.

D: I wasn't really sure what to expect from this, and must say it was a fairly pleasant experience.

womencantsail, Aug 08, 2009
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

ygtbsm94, Mar 09, 2014
Photo of GRG1313
4.33/5  rDev +10.7%

Batch #2; Dark Brown with a nice white thick head; sherry carmel toffee nose that is complex and sophisticated with a rich sweet character.

Good taste follows the nose as expected. Nice creamy mouthfeel, thick and pleasant and well balanced flavors of sherry, burnt carmel, toffee, roasted bananas and ripe stone fruit with hints of walnuts. Complex flavors that are deliscious, although perhaps not the best beer with food. Like a meal in and of itself with the layers and layers of flavor.

Candidly, a half of the bottle was left overnight and was better the next day; sorry-that's the way it was but it tasted as stated and was nice. It was a bit more integrated and elegant the second day. Either way, just popping the cap and consuming or after some time....nice drink.

GRG1313, May 25, 2009
Photo of spycow
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

spycow, Mar 11, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

kylehay2004, Apr 01, 2014
Photo of jaydoc
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

jaydoc, Oct 20, 2013
Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%

Batch #2.

Appearance: Opaque, mahogany-hued body with a very thin (oh no there it goes), white head.

Smell: Sweet-smelling, fruity nose of raisins, stone fruits, and toasted malts layered with dark caramel sauce and candi sugar, as well as cloves and freshly-grated nutmeg.

Taste: Toasted dark caramel maltiness with a sweet kick of candi sugar. Small dash of cocoa powder and gooey dark brown sugar. Meager hint of booze. Again, there's a wide variety of fruits to be found, and I now feel healthier for having drank this beer. White grapes, green raisins, apricot. Spicy clove and earthy nutmeg component. Very minor sour yeastiness. Some final muted malt hints on the drying, warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium-plus carbonation. Very light stickiness to the overall mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A fairly tasty and enjoyable beer made from one good beer, one so-so beer, one sweet story, and one dopey name.

ChainGangGuy, Jan 31, 2009
Photo of Knapp85
3.73/5  rDev -4.6%

This was split between a few people at the Farmhouse in Emmaus. The pour was a dark brown, and had a quick fading fizzy tan head on it. The smell of the beer was yeasty and had a light nutty aroma and some sweetness to it. The taste of the beer was rich with dark fruit and brown sugar, there is some nice yeasty flavors also. The mouthfeel was a little on the thinner side, has some little bubbles on the tongue. Overall this beer was just above average. Nothing too fantastic here.

Knapp85, Jul 14, 2011
Photo of oberon
3.65/5  rDev -6.6%

Bottled in Jan 07,poured into a fish bowl glass murky tea-like color with chinks and floaties swirling about a thinner head than expected leaving only a tace amount of spotted lace as it settled rather quickly.Mild phenolic aromas hit upfront along with some sweeter bread dough and a hint of wood nothing jumps out all are a bit tame but noticable.Phenolic and spicey with an underlying woddy graininess the fruit is a bit subdued pretty dry on the palate in my mind.Although not a huge fan of the style I was craving it and this although pretty good didnt really give me my fix I was looking for.

oberon, Apr 02, 2007
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2.75/5  rDev -29.7%

westcoastbeerlvr, Nov 15, 2011
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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 1,320 ratings.