Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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Reviews: 722
Hads: 1,542
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 9.95%
Wants: 41
Gots: 221 | FT: 10
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Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007

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Photo of Sammy
4.25/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A good Belgian strong with pleasing wine-like tannins and a bit on the tart cherry side. Not for the novice as much as one who appreciates the above. Dark reddish brown and yeast and wine-like aromas. Medium mouthfeel. Very quaffable. One of the best Avery products. (266 characters)

Photo of t0rin0
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I read about this on the Avery website a while back and I thought it was really neat idea but I never thought Id get to try one. I tried it out of a 22 oz bottle and poured into a pint glass.

It was darker than I expected it to be considering that the Avery Salvation was a golden color. It was kind of a coppery color and had a thick creamy head.

It smelled sweet and a bit fruity. It tasted about the same. The only difference being some of the darker malts came out in the flavor. It tasted good but not quite as spectacular as the Avery website would have us believe.

Mouthfeel was typical for a belgian beer, not too heavy not too light. Very drinkable beer, quite smooth. Would like to have more of this to get me through the hot days ahead. (751 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.8/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a opaque dark iced tea color with a 1/2 inch tan head to a small cap. Quickly fading lace rings form.

S - Smells of earthy spices, dark fruits, and yeast.

T - Dark fruits, bitter yeast, and dark brown sugar.

M - Good carbonation but creamy in the mouth. There is a pronounced bitter/acidic quality present.

D - Good beer with a weird bitterness to it. I like the idea of mixing brews from different companies after each brew has been made (as opposed to a single brew that is made using ideas from different companies like the Stone collabs). (556 characters)

Photo of GRG1313
4.3/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Batch #2; Dark Brown with a nice white thick head; sherry carmel toffee nose that is complex and sophisticated with a rich sweet character.

Good taste follows the nose as expected. Nice creamy mouthfeel, thick and pleasant and well balanced flavors of sherry, burnt carmel, toffee, roasted bananas and ripe stone fruit with hints of walnuts. Complex flavors that are deliscious, although perhaps not the best beer with food. Like a meal in and of itself with the layers and layers of flavor.

Candidly, a half of the bottle was left overnight and was better the next day; sorry-that's the way it was but it tasted as stated and was nice. It was a bit more integrated and elegant the second day. Either way, just popping the cap and consuming or after some time....nice drink. (778 characters)

Photo of metter98
3.92/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is hazy reddish brown in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a thin off-white head that quickly faded away, leaving only some delicate lacing on the surface and a ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: There are moderately strong aromas of dark fruit, spices and yeast in the nose.
T: The taste is very similar to the smell and has some initial sweetness with hints of brown sugar and caramel while the finish has some notes of spices.
M: It feels medium-bodied and smooth on the palate with a light amount of carbonation. There is some dryness in the finish and hints of warming from the alcohol.
O: The beer is quite drinkable for the style because it’s a bit lighter in body and doesn’t have as much alcohol content, although it does match up quite well with other Belgian Strong Dark Ales when it comes to taste and aroma.

Note: Batch #5, Bottled in January 2011 (925 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had on tap at the Sunset Grill outside of Boston. Excellent selection.

A: Dark orange with sort of a rusty look. Slightly cloudy with a good white head. Nice lacing.

S: Sweet with some fruit characteristics. Some of the traditional Belgian esters--I always seem to get bubblegum.

T: Sweet with candied sugar and a good deal of complexity. Some tartness. A nice malt base. Some fresh fruit flavors.

M: Good, creamy mouthfeel. Nice and smooth. I love it.

D: Highly drinkable for the style and abv. Perhaps too much for an extended sitting, but something I'm glad I can get in bottle form back here in Chicago. (613 characters)

Photo of brentk56
4.05/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a burnt caramel color with a modest head that drops to a ringlet with a murky foam covering the surface of the ale; some lacing

Smell: Caramel; some sour yeasty notes; some rum-soaked raisings and a whiff of alcohol

Taste: Starts with a complex caramel flavor, with hints of coriander, tobacco and prune entering by mid-palate; after the swallow; the bitter and peppery elements grow considerably into the finish; along with the alcohol

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with lively carbonation

Drinkability: I prefer the RR to the Avery and I notice that this beer starts out like the RR but the Avery elements become more apparent after the swallow; letting this beer age a year or two tones down the bitterness and makes it a superior BSDA, in my opinion (776 characters)

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

not as good as i wanted it to be, but still exciting. batch number 6. poured a quad looking red brown color with a modest off white head into a la trappe goblet. smells belgian yeasty, and like a less sweet salvation from avery. i think the russian river salvation is much darker and potent, almost dominating in this blend. flavor is belgian candy sugar, molasses, caramel malts, dried fruit, and yeast yeast yeast. feel is nice, smooth and bright, strong and easy down. i like this beer a lot, i like it as much for the idea as for the final product, and in fact, i wasnt that impressed with this, but i support the concept fully. they should team up and do a big stout... (674 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
4.3/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

If the Belgians can blend lambics, then why can't we blend Dark Ales. The result is a wonderful beer, chalked full of sweetness, tartness, spiciness, and character. The results are very common to the Avery Salvation, but with a sweeter, mellower, less-bitey, lower-strength brew. Well concocted and well matured. Since I have never tried Russian River's Salvation, I don't know how they compare. The beer starts off with a deep mohogany hue, slight of opaque. Well headed and carbonated, with no suprises. Spicy-sweet, earthy, and estery aromas, as most good Belgian Darks. Tastes are heavy on the malts, showing figs, dates, apples, berries, grapes, and light molassas. The feel is full and rich, without becomming cloying or chewey. Light astringency and residual sweetness lingers in the mouth, due to lighter hopping rates. A terrific brew, expecially for the price. This combination makes Black-'n-Tans look silly.

Thanks Pwoody! (04/09/10) (946 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
3.7/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This was split between a few people at the Farmhouse in Emmaus. The pour was a dark brown, and had a quick fading fizzy tan head on it. The smell of the beer was yeasty and had a light nutty aroma and some sweetness to it. The taste of the beer was rich with dark fruit and brown sugar, there is some nice yeasty flavors also. The mouthfeel was a little on the thinner side, has some little bubbles on the tongue. Overall this beer was just above average. Nothing too fantastic here. (483 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Demcorhip: Poured a cloudy deep copper color ale with a nice foamy head with good retention. Aroma of sweet malt and medium funky yeast is pretty interesting. Taste of sweet malt is mix with some subtle sour notes and some light funky yeast. Body is quite full with some adequate carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Overall, this seems like a good concept but I still think I would prefer having my own bottle of RR salvation instead of this. (469 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.42/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Rust orange with a hint of brick red and a fine yeasty haze. The whipped creamy crown is an appealing shade of golden beige and has enough stickiness to maintain multiple foam bridges between itself and the glass. Meandering fingers of thick lace look good as well.

The nose contains all sorts of wonderful things. It's sweet and tart fruity, as well as being impressively clove spicy. I guess that's what happens when two such different beers are blended. At least when the brewers of those beers are as talented as Vinnie Cilurzo and Adam Avery. So far, the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts.

The same notion applies to the flavor profile, although I'm not yet convinced that the taste score will reflect it. Having said that, I still have a long way to go. First impressions suggest that what was best about each individual Salvation counters what was less than ideal about the other.

I found Avery Salvation to be slightly lacking in complexity, a bit too boozy and probably too highly hopped for the style. On the other hand, it was enjoyably sweet and orchard fruity. I found Russian River Salvation to be lacking in complexity as well, to be too sour for the style, but to be pretty tasty in all other respects.

CNLA is beautifully balanced. It isn't too sweet, too bitter or too sour, but is just right. Actually, this is what I'd hoped Russian River Salvation would taste like. That beer just needed more sweetness and less sourness.

The brewers won't divulge the proportions of each beer used, so I'll take a stab at it. How about Russian River Salvation (68.43%) and Avery Salvation (31.57%)? The flavor profile consists of bruised bananas and ripe apples swimming in a cocoa, caramel and candi sugar syrup, sprinkled liberally with ground clove. I don't know if this fine ale was this delicious initially, but I have the feeling that one year of rest has done it a world of good.

It isn't a bit surprising that two beers with good mouthfeels would equal one beer with a good mouthfeel. I didn't expect improvement here and didn't get it. To repeat something that I might have said in the other reviews, the body/mouthfeel is more than satisfactory for an American ale, while falling short of what is expected from a Belgian or Belgian-style ale. It's medium with a less than completely volumizing carbonation and a light stickiness on the finish.

I reviewed Russian River Salvation several weeks ago so that I could review Collaboration Not Litigation Ale having tasted each of its component parts. What I hoped would happen did, in fact, happen. The strengths of each beer collaborated and counteracted their individual weaknesses. This deserves to be a seasonal release if they can work out the logistics.

Avery Brewing Salvation: 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.0
Russian River Salvation: 4.5, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.05 (2,868 characters)

Photo of biboergosum
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #2, February 2008.

This beer pours a cloudy dishwater brown colour, with one finger of soapy off-white head, which leaves a small ring of lace in its wake. It smells of candy malt, raisins, a bit of yeast, and alcohol. The taste is sweet caramel malt, some light spicy yeast, and earthy hops. The carbonation is low, the body fairly light, smooth, and creamy, and it finishes with an increasing amount of drying spicy hops.

A fantastic, heart-warming American story, resulting in a pretty good, and drinkable, analogue to the Belgian greats. (549 characters)

Photo of emerge077
3.73/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark reddish brown, with a skim of foam.

Not too aromatic, some spent grain and barely a citrus note. Thankfully not as phenolic as other Avery ales.

Taste is overripe grapefruit, cereal grain, earthy malt, a hint of Brett without much tartness at all. Interesting for a US brew. Mouthfeel is a little overdone, thick almost, a little cloying at first, but dries out in a bittersweet way. Evident spicing, grain of paradise/coriander seem to be present. Earthy note is reminiscient of Fantome's darker offerings.

I'll need help finishing this bomber...
Tasting Avery Salvation prior to this, I was skeptical, but eager to try the RR component so I bought it. Better than Avery's but one try is enough in my opinion.

Edit: Cellared Jan. '07 bottle consumed Nov. '08
Creamy tan head, dried orange peel nose. Body is creamy and smooth, no alcohol presence. Spicy citrus and chocolate flavors. Very earthy, nearly soil notes in the aftertaste, dry,chalky, herbal. (968 characters)

Photo of mikesgroove
4.51/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured a beautiful clear brown with a huge frothy head. Smell was very spicey, grassy and earthy tones with a hint of sweetness. The taste was classic belgian and very nicely done. Fruitness and spices predominate, no hint of alcohol, which at 9%abv is incredible. Really smooth and effortless in drinkability. This is a fantastic brew, way too easy to drink, honestly the easiest 9% I have ever had. This is a must get as it is remarkable. (440 characters)

Photo of zeff80
4.32/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #2. 22oz bottle poured into a St. Bernardus chalice.

A - Poured out a burgandy color with hints of orange. It had a foamy, small, off-white head that left trails of lace on the glass.

S - Smelled strongly of sweet malts. Also, dried fruit aromas (raisin & cherry). Some subtle floral notes, too.

T - This was very well balanced between sweet malt flavors and spiciness. A raisin or pear-like flavor came through. Spiciness seemed to increase as the beer warmed.

M - This was smooth and a little chewy. A medium to heavy-bodied beer.

D - This is such an interesting concept and it works quite well. (608 characters)

Photo of oberon
3.65/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled in Jan 07,poured into a fish bowl glass murky tea-like color with chinks and floaties swirling about a thinner head than expected leaving only a tace amount of spotted lace as it settled rather quickly.Mild phenolic aromas hit upfront along with some sweeter bread dough and a hint of wood nothing jumps out all are a bit tame but noticable.Phenolic and spicey with an underlying woddy graininess the fruit is a bit subdued pretty dry on the palate in my mind.Although not a huge fan of the style I was craving it and this although pretty good didnt really give me my fix I was looking for. (598 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #3

A: A dark orange/amber color with a thin layer of white foam.

S: Spice, yeast, orange peel, caramel, and candi sugar.

T: Very similar to the nose with spice, raisins, caramel, and toffee.

M: Medium body, coats the tongue.

D: I wasn't really sure what to expect from this, and must say it was a fairly pleasant experience. (335 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #2.

Appearance: Opaque, mahogany-hued body with a very thin (oh no there it goes), white head.

Smell: Sweet-smelling, fruity nose of raisins, stone fruits, and toasted malts layered with dark caramel sauce and candi sugar, as well as cloves and freshly-grated nutmeg.

Taste: Toasted dark caramel maltiness with a sweet kick of candi sugar. Small dash of cocoa powder and gooey dark brown sugar. Meager hint of booze. Again, there's a wide variety of fruits to be found, and I now feel healthier for having drank this beer. White grapes, green raisins, apricot. Spicy clove and earthy nutmeg component. Very minor sour yeastiness. Some final muted malt hints on the drying, warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium-plus carbonation. Very light stickiness to the overall mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A fairly tasty and enjoyable beer made from one good beer, one so-so beer, one sweet story, and one dopey name. (927 characters)

Photo of nickfl
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours with a thick, creamy head. Settles down to a film pretty quickly and leaves behind an unusually nice laceing on the glass. Hazy reddish brown, not as dark as I might have expected, kind of looks like a flemmish brown.

S - Malty, sugary aroma... a bit of hops. Just a lot of caramel dary candy smells, and some dates or prunes; frankly, I expected a more complex aroma from these guys but maby my nose is having an off day.

T - Sugary, yeasty, with an alcoholic finish complemented with a good bit of hoppy bite.

M - Great texture! Really feels like a Belgian dark beer in that it coats the mouth and goes down smooth.

D - I really expected something more over the top on this one. As it turned out I got a very drinkable beer that captures the Tao of the Belgian strong dark style in a quiet way. (819 characters)

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.5/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Well here's a winner!

Not unlike my usual self, I poured this beer without knowing what it was. I noted the huge frothy head of yellowish foam and the slightly hazy (I was careful with the pour of the long-standing bottle) amber/copper body. As I raised it to my nose however, my eyes must have popped open wide! Brettanomyces!? How could it be? I had to look at the label. I thought it was a collaboration with Left Hand (even the cross-cut saw at the bottom of the label seems to indicate that...) but then I noticed the bottle of Russian River on the right hand side. I took a sip... heaven!!! And that's why my review starts with the first words that popped into my head... "Well here's a winner"!

After I started writing this I had to read the label, and learned - as you no doubt already know - that it's a blend of Salvation from both breweries. Vinnie's of course stands out, but the rich malt base of Avery's makes it something completely different. I thought of a comparison to the sweetened versions of Flemish Red, but that passed quickly as they're completely different - as is this beer! Another American original? Perhaps.

The nose is not nearly as full and rich as the flavor, and expresses more of the clean, tart and metallic character of the Brett. Some grainy, dusty malt does come through, and there's a light note of clove, some dark fruit, and a mild vinous side.

The flavor is malty, mineralish, sweet (soft light caramel, brown sugar, sugar candy), spicy (lots of clove, some coriander), sweaty, metallic, tangy, fruity (red grape, plum/prune, cherry, fig), hoppy, earthy, straw-like, lightly cheesy, and bitter. The alcohol never shows, and it finishes dry and gently lingering with a mineralish blanket of dull malt and some lingering bitterness and soft clove. It's so complex though without really showing it, and the flavors vary in their placement throughout the glass like a game of musical chairs... which, I guess, actually adds even more to its complexity.

Really unique, and really enjoyable!!! However, I should note that this is one of those beers that you either love or hate. If you're on board for Orval and clovey-phenolic Belgians, then you'll probably go ape-shit for this one. If not, avoid it like the plague (to use another cliche). For me, I'm going to stock up on as much as I can afford right now. A new personal favorite :) (2,393 characters)

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.65/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 release, poured from a 22oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep coppery brown color, with a large beige head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of dark fruit, brown sugar, Belgian yeast, caramelized malts and a touch of hops.

T: The taste is malty and spicy but kind of metallic with flavors of dark fruit, brown sugar caramel and chocolate up front. A decent Belgian yeast breadiness follows quickly along with a mild hops presence to provides some balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and a little smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: A little tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, good kick, good representation of style, I was expecting a little bit more out of this beer but it's still a solid Belgian to drink for a while. (843 characters)

Photo of jlindros
3.37/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Batch #3 bottled in Feb. 2009. Poured from bomber into tulip glass.

A: Big airy head dark orange brown with a slight rosy hue and some sediment and haze

N: Nose is very reminiscent of a Belgian tripel with nice sweet malts and candi sugar as well as a slight yeasty sour fruit a little caramel and some alcohol, probably the best thing this beer has going for it IMO

T: Taste starts with dark malts and candi sugar, lots of alcohol taste, it starts like a light Belgian tripel and somewhat tasty, but goes downhilll with a strange watery yeasty off flavor thats somewhat unpleasant, it has some candi sugar but not much, its also got a strange blandness to it I can't explain, an earthy bitterness and slight raisiny taste peaks in the middle

M: It has a spicey mouthfeel and lots of carbonation

F: Finish is spicey and that same earthy bitter that leaves a very unpleasant taste in the mouth, it also finishes bitter and lots of alcohol that seems to magnify the bad bitter taste that seems to come from a wild or crazy yeast strain

Final thoughts: THe beer starts good but seems to get that strange wild-saison-like taste that is pretty unpleasant after the Belgian tripel. I remember the last batch being better than this I think. I could see some people liking this one, but its not for me, its even hard to continue drinking it, the unpleasant finish makes me want to keep drinking it to get the good start that will go over the finish. (1,447 characters)

Photo of RblWthACoz
4.34/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I have no idea why I have taken so long to pick this beer up and try it. Good things come to those who wait??

Pours a dark brown that shows heavy ruby hues when held to light. Head is off white. Nose is perfectly balanced I feel. Excellent yeast and sugar tones. Seems to be a touch of citrus on there as well. Flavor is very interesting. I have had Salvation by RR before, and I can tell there is some of it there, but I can tell that something else is cutting into it. Seems like there is a very minute aspect of smokiness. Nice levels of yeasty funk that seem interrupted by some invasive force. Feel has a good carbonation to it and the liquid is good as well.

Overall this is a very interesting beer indeed. I personally feel like I can really tell that there are fighting sides going on here. Perhaps it is my past experience with Salvation by RR. I guess it's all conjecture really. Overall, I think this is a very interesting beer. Definitely one worth trying. I should have tried it a long time ago. (1,011 characters)

Photo of russpowell
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours amber/brown with 2 fingers of fluffy eggshell colored head. Above average lacing & a nice persistent ring chases the ale down the glass

S: Fruitty, leather notes, boozey, & horse blanket & all of this fades away & then comes back as this warms, weird

T: Fruiity with bitter choclate up front with some boozeyness lurking at the tip of the tounge. Leather & apricot follow as this warms. Tanins & oaky dryness show up too, along with jammyness, some black currant, cherries, &a hint of aged hops. Finishes with a faint hint of coccoa, breadyness, raisins, more oaky notes & warming/almost burning alcohol, just a wisp or 2 away from perfection

MF: Medium bodied, virtualy no carbonation felt, but still a ;ittle prickly from the alcohol burn

This is a sipper, but I think will only get more drinkable as it mellows. This this is one to lay down for a year or two, if you have the paitience! (907 characters)

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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 722 ratings.