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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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88
very good

1,364 Ratings
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Ratings: 1,364
Reviews: 698
rAvg: 3.9
pDev: 10.77%
Wants: 34
Gots: 146 | FT: 9
Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007)
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Photo of kcillini77
4.05/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Got a good lesson on this one in the importance of proper temperature. First smell and taste were too cold - smelled like soda and taste was worse than average. I let it warm up a little, and that's what I'm reviewing.

Smell is malty and yeasty with a bit of grapefruit essence.

Taste is sweet up front - good malt presence. Then we get some very earthy flavors that remind me somewhat of the smell of hay, with plenty of coriander and other spices. Alcohol is definitely present but not overpowering.

I would definitely give either of the original Salvations a try (I haven't had them before), but the mixture, while good, is not spectacular.

kcillini77, Apr 08, 2008
Photo of GeoffW
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Got a bottle of batch #2 bottled 02/08

Poured into a tulip glass it's a dark amber color, cloudy, not much head or lacing.

Smell is very malty, a good amount of yeast, some spice.

Taste is good. Nice malt flavor with a layer of spice and some yeast thrown in for good measure. Mouthfeel is smooth, the 8.72 abv is hidden pretty well, nice lingering aftertaste.

Drinkability is pretty good, not something I would want to drink as my regular beer but I would have one every once in a while if it were more available.

Overall this stuff is pretty good, but I was expecting a little more. Oh well.

GeoffW, Apr 07, 2008
Photo of JDV
2.73/5  rDev -30%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On tap
Pours a rich golden amber with a creamy beige head. A malty faint belgian yeast character and wheaty, caramel in the nose as well. Taste is creamy, smooth and simple with brown malt and yeast flavors. On the lightly sweeter side. Softly carbonated and medium bodied. Drinkable.

JDV, Apr 06, 2008
Photo of gwong
4.2/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy, cloudy dirty brown color with a thick off-white head that quickly dissipates. Minimal lacing on the glass.

S: Hints of malts, fruit, spice, and yeast in the nose.

T: Strong malt flavor with a nice kick from the spices. The yeast flavor lingers at the end.

M: Medium body with little carbonation.

D: It hides its ABV fairly well and with less carbonation than expected from a Belgian, it's pretty drinkable.

gwong, Apr 06, 2008
Photo of beerthulhu
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: pours a dark mahogany red with a light tan head.

S: sweet fruity aroma. Some caramel also detected on the nose along with alcohol.

T: Rich malt flavor, Earthy bitterness that grows bigger when it warms. Dried fruit, raisins, plums, cherries and bread notes. Spicy winter spices, cola. "ends spicy with some cloves".

M: moderate body and a warming alcohol sensation going down.

D: Definitely worth a try. very nice.

beerthulhu, Apr 05, 2008
Photo of EighchBrews
4.22/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Great beer. Poured into a chimay glass. hazy amber color with a very nice thick smooth head. The appearance alone makes me thirsty. the aroma is wonderful. brown sugar, raisins, a bit of alcohol. It smells very good. All the smells I just talked about are immediately present in the taste. A nice malty sweetness gives way to a slight lingering bitterness. Very tasty beer. The mouthfeel is unbeatable. It is almost chewy and just enough carbonation. All and all a great beer and very cool concept behind it. I am not a huge belgian style fan, but I will buy this beer again.

Has this beer really been retired???

EighchBrews, Apr 04, 2008
Photo of MFOM
4.43/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a deep reddish brown into my Unibroue glass. Tiny bubbles sprout from the bottom into a nice one finger head. Smells of bread and cinnamon and a slight alcohol presence.

Taste is sweet up front with a nice maltiness and dark fruits. Aftertaste of fruits such as feint cherry and apple maybe. Not much alcohol in the taste at first, but does appear after the beer warms a bit. Mouthfeel is great. Nice carbonation that somewhat makes me think of most tripels.

I think this is not only a good beer, but a good idea that I hope to see other brewers doing in the future. I will have to pick up a few more bottles before they are all sold out. Overall a must try.

MFOM, Apr 03, 2008
Photo of Douglas14
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a rich, deep mahogany color with a slight ruby red tint to it. It has a great head that leaves too soon and leaves less lace than I expected. The nose is heavily of cinnamon, candied sugar, nicely roasted malts and very also of bread. The taste is complex and rich: malt, various spices, dark fruits, tart fruits, dough, and a bit earthy. It has a full body and finishes incredibly.

This beer is a true testament as to why the craft beer culture and industry is like no other...everyone should experience this brew.

Douglas14, Apr 03, 2008
Photo of scootny
4.13/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a lovely deep burnt amber. Cloudy with yeast. Bits are in suspension. A one and a half finger head of tight carbonation rises thick lick shaving cream and slowly recedes. Lacing streaks the path down to where a thin foam rest on top of my Chimay chalice. I stays throughout.

Smell is of sweet dark fruit, figs,dates, Belgian spice and malt. Light in its tenor but appealing enough to draw you in to deeper sniffs. As it warms the aromas develop into something more sophisticated but more difficult to dissect. The spices make themselves known, and mature the olfactory experience.

Taste is wonderful. Caramel malt, and corriander are at the front. Candy sugar and more malt hold the body together. A surprisingly present hop bitterness in the finish combined with notes of coffee, toffee and clove. Lovely. A real winner in my book. As it warms the bittering aspects develop but never take over the sweet and malty signature of the taste. The corriander/clove aspect helps here. Delectable. The finish gets dryer and more captivating as I make my way through the bottle.

A delicately weighty mouthfeel encourages bigger sips than the 9% abv would indicate. I taste none of this initially and it only show up at the end of the 22 oz. bottle NOT the first glass. Deceptively strong stuff here.

At the aforementioned abv drinkability is a relative term. It encourages frequent trips to the glass with its hidden alcohol. Beware though it does show up. Having said that it lends itself wonderfully to a night of session sipping after the first bottle.

scootny, Apr 03, 2008
Photo of cswhitehorse
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The Collaboration poured a dark brown amber color with a solid 2 finger foam head with some pretty darn good retention. It left some nice lacing sudsy lacing. It was bottled in Jan 2007.

The aroma is caramel maltiness. It is a spicy brew to say the least. It tastes a soft spicy that stays with you the whole drink. The alcohol is pretty well hidden and not noticeable. It had a 8.99 ABV call on the bottle. It is a mostly malty ale with some faint phenols. I found it to be a wonderful beer. Maybe they can collaborate again someday.

cswhitehorse, Apr 02, 2008
Photo of bboven
4.18/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Cloudy light leather-brown body. A thin head leaves little lacing.

Fig and alcohol in the nose, very vibrant aroma.

No alcohol in the flavor, which is nice. Starts out with a plum-like sweetness, fades to a light cherry cough syrup flavor, and end ends with a surprising amount of bitterness for a very complex mix.

This has that nice and rarely done well sticky but dry mouthfeel. A little low on the carbonation, which keeps it from being a 5.

The flavor in this one will take you for a ride, and the mouthfeel is almost perfect as well. Let's get this oak-aged and served out of the cask!

bboven, Apr 02, 2008
Photo of MrHungryMonkey
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Sour edge to the aroma. Citrus and caramel/syrup notes.

Very hazy, dirty apricot color with minimal head.

Flavor begins with an interesting complexity of malt layers. Sundry elements of sweet and roast. Zesty/citric tartness suggest wheat. Touch of alcohol in back. Some dry, powdery feel. Little pop of black pepper. Soft fruit, like banana, but not quite. The tartness has a fruit-like quality to it, almost like mango, or some other exotic fruit.

Pretty tasty. Rounded out nicely when it warmed to room temperature. Deeper layers of flavors blossomed as I neared the end. Quite enjoyable.

MrHungryMonkey, Apr 02, 2008
Photo of irishkyle21
4.35/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I don't think you would see any of the big guys collaborating on anything let alone a beer (except court cases). This is a pretty cool idea. The beer has a puffy white head, great retention and lacing. The hazy brownish orange color looks good in my snifter.

Smells of fruits, sweet malts and a bit of yeasty spice/mustiness.

Tastes of warming alcohol, fruits, more sweetness from the malts and hop bitterness.

irishkyle21, Mar 31, 2008
Photo of NCSUdo
4.15/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz bottle, batch #2, Feb. 2008

A: Pours a little shade of brown then expected under a small white head. No lace but good retention.

S: Very spicy nose. Sweet, pretty unique. The darker fruit tones are replaces by a sweeter fruit character. The only way I can describe it is "fruity pebble" like, which probably doesn't do it justice. It's just a sweet lighter fruit then usually and a bit of bread mixed in.

T: Like the nose, a lot of spice notes here. Malt tones more apparent here then the smell. A bit of sweetness and hint of chocolate and that same fruitiness in the nose in a small dose. Finish is a bit dry but sweetness lingers around. Even a bit of grassy hop can be found.

M/D: Medium to full bodied, carbonation is medium, alcohol is hidden. Drinkability is pretty good. I was expecting a much "bigger" beer. Not that this isn't big, it's just that it exhibits a lot of character found more in lighter beers. A really good offering.

NCSUdo, Mar 29, 2008
Photo of jbm5
4.28/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 into a tulip glass.

A: Cloudy amber hue. 1 inch head that dissipated quickly but left a decent off white lace on the side of the glass.

S: Sweet, tangy smell that is high on tart estery smell. A little citrusy heavy on orange.

T: A citrusy tartness up front with a well-balanced malty sweetness, with an almost biscuity undertone. Has a tangy little zip on the back end that is nice without being too bitter. Don't taste the alcohol at all.

M: Coats the mouth well with a smooth, even feeling that is very good on the palate.

D: Very solid beer. A good balance between malty sweetness and a tart and tangy Belgian. A very drinkable beer that I will definitely drink again.

jbm5, Mar 27, 2008
Photo of TheBierBand
4.18/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch #2; bottled in Feb. 2008... now 8.72% abv.

Poured from the 22 oz bomber into an oversized wine glass. The head formed to about 3/4" of off-white foam and settles back to a clumpy cap leaving moderate lace behind. The beer is a caramel color that is somewhat cloudy and rich with micron sized particulate matter that hangs in suspension.

Nose was rather typical of belgians that I have tasted. Sweet malt, caramel, dried fruit like dates are all present.

Taste: This is a GOOD Belgian ale. Bready, malty, somewhat sweet, but with a tiny bit of citric tart to balance off the sweetness. There is also a hint of fruitiness to add complexity.

Mouthfeel: This one is not as fizzy as most belgians that I've had.... which is a good thing in my opinion. I beleive that this belgian ale is quite appropriately carbonated. It has a creamy texture that is quite good. A great mouthcoating and aftertaste.

Drinkability: Heck yeah.... go out and get some of this... Batch #2 is now in wide circulation!

TheBierBand, Mar 26, 2008
Photo of IBUnit63
4.08/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Perfect doughy head that's not going anywhere

Sour cherries and cardamom with citrus, alcohol and ester-y malt; more hop depth than expected

"Horse blanket" malt with alcohol and slight bitter tinge of bountiful hops

Incredibly warm mouthfeel

This one's good for some snifterin' and sippin'

IBUnit63, Mar 26, 2008
Photo of ccrida
3.88/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served in a small nonic on draught at Avery's tasting room, this is from the newest, second batch. I guess the guys didn't get to drink enough beer on their last trip to Belgium that I helped fund by buying a bottle of the first batch???? No worries, because it's a good beer. Collaboration Not Litigation is a tawny brown with a small ivory collar and skim that leaves decent lace.

Smell is lots of banana esters and some caramel malt - in a blind 'smelling' I'd guess this
was dunkleweizen.

Taste is very nice, full flavored and smooth BSDA, much more traditional then the nose. Heavy malt emphasis, some caramel and raisins, with banana and some bubble gum esters.

Mouthfeel is on the crisper side (for the style), with a medium body.

Drinkability is good, as this goes down very effortless. However, I recall a bit more depth in the first batch, which I ultimately preferred. Not sure if the difference was the bottle conditioning vs. draught, a recipe change, or just a hazy memory. Either way, a good BSDA.

ccrida, Mar 26, 2008
Photo of dogger6253
4.43/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The body is a dark, muddy brown color. On top, there is a huge, tan head that just won't go away. The retention is pretty amazing. Very interesting to look at, the beer beckons me.

There is actually alot of sweet fruit aromas up front, such as bananas and oranges. Spicy too, cloves and coriander are not timid in the least. Lingering in the background is a sort of lemon zest smell.

I mostly tasted sweet bananas in this beer, but found lots of nutty almond flavor too. I was surprised by the lack of bitterness and spice. I thought a lot more of the orange and lemon zest I smelled would develop in the flavor, but that just wasn't the case. It didn't really take anything away though, I was just noting that.

A moderate amount of carbonation stayed in the body, but despite that, it was thick and velvety with a little bit of warmth going on. This stuff is a lot of fun to drink.

dogger6253, Mar 26, 2008
Photo of m1ked
4.33/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Drinking this for Easter brunch, as well as the wine influenced cocktails.

A- Pours an opaque sandy brown, like an unfiltered apple cider. A robust 1" white head, that instantly laces along the edges. This bottle may have been disturbed in transport.

S- Classic. Banana, candied sugar, yeasty. Notable alcoholic cloves.

T- More classic Belgian banana, candied brown sugar. Like my gramma's rich & dense banana bread....without the walnuts. Slight bitter finish.

M- Slight syrup feel on my tongue. Fine, fine bubble carbonation.

D- If you enjoy this style, you will most likely enjoy this this one, as well as the story. I do enjoy this style and this beer. I hope to try the 3 of them in a blind tasting.

m1ked, Mar 23, 2008
Photo of ruckzuck
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this on-tap recently at BSP and enjoyed it

A - dark cloudy amber with a light head

S - sweet malt with some spiciness

T - sweet malt, hints of caramel, bit of alcohol comes through as well

M - solid body, good carbonation, the alcohol is certainly there

D - this is a really enjoyable beer, but I don't know that I could do more than a glass due to the strength. Still, what a great a story behind it, and it was quite enjoyable!

ruckzuck, Mar 22, 2008
Photo of DavidSeanNJ
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz. bomber picked up at Wine and Beverage Depot. in Totowa.

***Batch Number 2***

Poured this one into a tulip glass. The liquid was a bright orange/red color. There was a small two finger head which lingered throughout the glass, never going away. Smell was spicy and yeasty with a hint of fruit (maybe apricot?) The flavor was peppery, extremely spicy (cloves, cardamom?), fruity- grapes, apricot, peach, raison, prune. Mouthfeel was clean and fresh. I was getting some burning towards the end, but not much detection of the alcohol. I thought this beer was so well done. Great interpretation of the style and an easy drinker.

DavidSeanNJ, Mar 22, 2008
Photo of lightindarkness
4.35/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've had this before, but tonight I thought it was particularly great.

Poured a very nice caramel color with a lot of suspended murk and an attractive dark cream colored head.

Nose is caramel and sweet grains, rich and smooth malt, with some alcohol heat in the back.

Taste is very smooth, caramelly with some bright juice flavors. Middle brings out tea flavor with a sweetness that doesn't seem overdone. A little light on the finish, but overall embodying some of my favorite aspects of the style.

Feel is medium, very smooth with good carbonation and a nice mouth coating.

Drinkability is overall very nice. ABV prohibits drinking a lot, but the taste is very pleasant.

lightindarkness, Mar 16, 2008
Photo of BradLikesBrew
4.33/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

What a great story. I can't help but love the friendship that exists between these extraordinary brewers. Collaboration indeed!

a: A hazy brownish orange body. Thin white head, patches of lace.

s: Sweet and sour. Some spices, clove is most noticeable.

t: A malty base with a great balance of sweet, sour, and spice. As in the nose, clove is most noticeable. Is has notes of banana similar to a hefe. Good complex flavor.

m: Medium body. Medium carbonation. Just right for the flavor and aroma.

d: High drinkability. I wish I had tried both Salvation prior to collaboration for a better sense of perspective. I will say that the end result is a great flavor.

BradLikesBrew, Mar 15, 2008
Photo of Beaver13
3.48/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle (Batch 2, bottled 2/08). Pours a slightly hazy darker amber tea color with a smallish creamy white head that goes to a thin film that laces that glass.

The aroma is sweet malts, spiced bread, yeast, bananas and some dark fruits.

The flavor is some caramel malts, with bitter spices (cloves, bananas). It has a slightly bitter but clean finish. The mouthfeel is pretty full with nice carbonation.

Overall, a decent Belgian style.

Beaver13, Mar 11, 2008
Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 1,364 ratings.