Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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Ratings: 1,379
Reviews: 702
rAvg: 3.9
pDev: 10.77%
Wants: 34
Gots: 146 | FT: 9
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Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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(Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007)
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Photo of bboven
4.18/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Cloudy light leather-brown body. A thin head leaves little lacing.

Fig and alcohol in the nose, very vibrant aroma.

No alcohol in the flavor, which is nice. Starts out with a plum-like sweetness, fades to a light cherry cough syrup flavor, and end ends with a surprising amount of bitterness for a very complex mix.

This has that nice and rarely done well sticky but dry mouthfeel. A little low on the carbonation, which keeps it from being a 5.

The flavor in this one will take you for a ride, and the mouthfeel is almost perfect as well. Let's get this oak-aged and served out of the cask!

Photo of MrHungryMonkey
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Sour edge to the aroma. Citrus and caramel/syrup notes.

Very hazy, dirty apricot color with minimal head.

Flavor begins with an interesting complexity of malt layers. Sundry elements of sweet and roast. Zesty/citric tartness suggest wheat. Touch of alcohol in back. Some dry, powdery feel. Little pop of black pepper. Soft fruit, like banana, but not quite. The tartness has a fruit-like quality to it, almost like mango, or some other exotic fruit.

Pretty tasty. Rounded out nicely when it warmed to room temperature. Deeper layers of flavors blossomed as I neared the end. Quite enjoyable.

Photo of irishkyle21
4.35/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I don't think you would see any of the big guys collaborating on anything let alone a beer (except court cases). This is a pretty cool idea. The beer has a puffy white head, great retention and lacing. The hazy brownish orange color looks good in my snifter.

Smells of fruits, sweet malts and a bit of yeasty spice/mustiness.

Tastes of warming alcohol, fruits, more sweetness from the malts and hop bitterness.

Photo of NCSUdo
4.15/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz bottle, batch #2, Feb. 2008

A: Pours a little shade of brown then expected under a small white head. No lace but good retention.

S: Very spicy nose. Sweet, pretty unique. The darker fruit tones are replaces by a sweeter fruit character. The only way I can describe it is "fruity pebble" like, which probably doesn't do it justice. It's just a sweet lighter fruit then usually and a bit of bread mixed in.

T: Like the nose, a lot of spice notes here. Malt tones more apparent here then the smell. A bit of sweetness and hint of chocolate and that same fruitiness in the nose in a small dose. Finish is a bit dry but sweetness lingers around. Even a bit of grassy hop can be found.

M/D: Medium to full bodied, carbonation is medium, alcohol is hidden. Drinkability is pretty good. I was expecting a much "bigger" beer. Not that this isn't big, it's just that it exhibits a lot of character found more in lighter beers. A really good offering.

Photo of jbm5
4.28/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 into a tulip glass.

A: Cloudy amber hue. 1 inch head that dissipated quickly but left a decent off white lace on the side of the glass.

S: Sweet, tangy smell that is high on tart estery smell. A little citrusy heavy on orange.

T: A citrusy tartness up front with a well-balanced malty sweetness, with an almost biscuity undertone. Has a tangy little zip on the back end that is nice without being too bitter. Don't taste the alcohol at all.

M: Coats the mouth well with a smooth, even feeling that is very good on the palate.

D: Very solid beer. A good balance between malty sweetness and a tart and tangy Belgian. A very drinkable beer that I will definitely drink again.

Photo of TheBierBand
4.18/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch #2; bottled in Feb. 2008... now 8.72% abv.

Poured from the 22 oz bomber into an oversized wine glass. The head formed to about 3/4" of off-white foam and settles back to a clumpy cap leaving moderate lace behind. The beer is a caramel color that is somewhat cloudy and rich with micron sized particulate matter that hangs in suspension.

Nose was rather typical of belgians that I have tasted. Sweet malt, caramel, dried fruit like dates are all present.

Taste: This is a GOOD Belgian ale. Bready, malty, somewhat sweet, but with a tiny bit of citric tart to balance off the sweetness. There is also a hint of fruitiness to add complexity.

Mouthfeel: This one is not as fizzy as most belgians that I've had.... which is a good thing in my opinion. I beleive that this belgian ale is quite appropriately carbonated. It has a creamy texture that is quite good. A great mouthcoating and aftertaste.

Drinkability: Heck yeah.... go out and get some of this... Batch #2 is now in wide circulation!

Photo of IBUnit63
4.08/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Perfect doughy head that's not going anywhere

Sour cherries and cardamom with citrus, alcohol and ester-y malt; more hop depth than expected

"Horse blanket" malt with alcohol and slight bitter tinge of bountiful hops

Incredibly warm mouthfeel

This one's good for some snifterin' and sippin'

Photo of ccrida
3.88/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served in a small nonic on draught at Avery's tasting room, this is from the newest, second batch. I guess the guys didn't get to drink enough beer on their last trip to Belgium that I helped fund by buying a bottle of the first batch???? No worries, because it's a good beer. Collaboration Not Litigation is a tawny brown with a small ivory collar and skim that leaves decent lace.

Smell is lots of banana esters and some caramel malt - in a blind 'smelling' I'd guess this
was dunkleweizen.

Taste is very nice, full flavored and smooth BSDA, much more traditional then the nose. Heavy malt emphasis, some caramel and raisins, with banana and some bubble gum esters.

Mouthfeel is on the crisper side (for the style), with a medium body.

Drinkability is good, as this goes down very effortless. However, I recall a bit more depth in the first batch, which I ultimately preferred. Not sure if the difference was the bottle conditioning vs. draught, a recipe change, or just a hazy memory. Either way, a good BSDA.

Photo of dogger6253
4.43/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The body is a dark, muddy brown color. On top, there is a huge, tan head that just won't go away. The retention is pretty amazing. Very interesting to look at, the beer beckons me.

There is actually alot of sweet fruit aromas up front, such as bananas and oranges. Spicy too, cloves and coriander are not timid in the least. Lingering in the background is a sort of lemon zest smell.

I mostly tasted sweet bananas in this beer, but found lots of nutty almond flavor too. I was surprised by the lack of bitterness and spice. I thought a lot more of the orange and lemon zest I smelled would develop in the flavor, but that just wasn't the case. It didn't really take anything away though, I was just noting that.

A moderate amount of carbonation stayed in the body, but despite that, it was thick and velvety with a little bit of warmth going on. This stuff is a lot of fun to drink.

Photo of m1ked
4.33/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Drinking this for Easter brunch, as well as the wine influenced cocktails.

A- Pours an opaque sandy brown, like an unfiltered apple cider. A robust 1" white head, that instantly laces along the edges. This bottle may have been disturbed in transport.

S- Classic. Banana, candied sugar, yeasty. Notable alcoholic cloves.

T- More classic Belgian banana, candied brown sugar. Like my gramma's rich & dense banana bread....without the walnuts. Slight bitter finish.

M- Slight syrup feel on my tongue. Fine, fine bubble carbonation.

D- If you enjoy this style, you will most likely enjoy this this one, as well as the story. I do enjoy this style and this beer. I hope to try the 3 of them in a blind tasting.

Photo of ruckzuck
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this on-tap recently at BSP and enjoyed it

A - dark cloudy amber with a light head

S - sweet malt with some spiciness

T - sweet malt, hints of caramel, bit of alcohol comes through as well

M - solid body, good carbonation, the alcohol is certainly there

D - this is a really enjoyable beer, but I don't know that I could do more than a glass due to the strength. Still, what a great a story behind it, and it was quite enjoyable!

Photo of DavidSeanNJ
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz. bomber picked up at Wine and Beverage Depot. in Totowa.

***Batch Number 2***

Poured this one into a tulip glass. The liquid was a bright orange/red color. There was a small two finger head which lingered throughout the glass, never going away. Smell was spicy and yeasty with a hint of fruit (maybe apricot?) The flavor was peppery, extremely spicy (cloves, cardamom?), fruity- grapes, apricot, peach, raison, prune. Mouthfeel was clean and fresh. I was getting some burning towards the end, but not much detection of the alcohol. I thought this beer was so well done. Great interpretation of the style and an easy drinker.

Photo of lightindarkness
4.35/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've had this before, but tonight I thought it was particularly great.

Poured a very nice caramel color with a lot of suspended murk and an attractive dark cream colored head.

Nose is caramel and sweet grains, rich and smooth malt, with some alcohol heat in the back.

Taste is very smooth, caramelly with some bright juice flavors. Middle brings out tea flavor with a sweetness that doesn't seem overdone. A little light on the finish, but overall embodying some of my favorite aspects of the style.

Feel is medium, very smooth with good carbonation and a nice mouth coating.

Drinkability is overall very nice. ABV prohibits drinking a lot, but the taste is very pleasant.

Photo of BradLikesBrew
4.33/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

What a great story. I can't help but love the friendship that exists between these extraordinary brewers. Collaboration indeed!

a: A hazy brownish orange body. Thin white head, patches of lace.

s: Sweet and sour. Some spices, clove is most noticeable.

t: A malty base with a great balance of sweet, sour, and spice. As in the nose, clove is most noticeable. Is has notes of banana similar to a hefe. Good complex flavor.

m: Medium body. Medium carbonation. Just right for the flavor and aroma.

d: High drinkability. I wish I had tried both Salvation prior to collaboration for a better sense of perspective. I will say that the end result is a great flavor.

Photo of Beaver13
3.48/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle (Batch 2, bottled 2/08). Pours a slightly hazy darker amber tea color with a smallish creamy white head that goes to a thin film that laces that glass.

The aroma is sweet malts, spiced bread, yeast, bananas and some dark fruits.

The flavor is some caramel malts, with bitter spices (cloves, bananas). It has a slightly bitter but clean finish. The mouthfeel is pretty full with nice carbonation.

Overall, a decent Belgian style.

Photo of jdhilt
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a three finger off-white head that fades slowly to a thin layer leaving some lace. Cloudy amber color. Good carbonation and medium bodied. Raisin/caramel nose. Flavor is almost sweet to start, hints of yeast and caramel, clean finish. Warming. $7.05 for a 22oz bottle from John's Marketplace Portland, OR.

Photo of charlzm
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Feb 2009 bottling, 8.97% ABV.

Pours into my Bruery snifter a deep honey color. Lots of suspended particulate matter battles with copious carbonation bubbles. A three-finger white head forms and quickly turns into a frothy lacing with only a thin skin atop the beer.

Delicious aroma, a combination of sweet honey, light resin, fleeting citrus and a subtle, powdery pear/apple fruitiness. Yeah.

Sadly, the palate doesn't deliver the way the sinuses did. Softly spicy with a touch of light fruits and a slight bitterness at the end; there's really not much going on in the mouth, though I guess this is technically style-crroect. I was just expecting so much after those long, luxurious sniffs! The alcohol is craftily submerged beneath the taste, so watch out!

Texture is smooth and soft with a little dryness on the finish. Some alcohol warming in the belly. Just right.

Overall, a very easy-drinking beer of the style though stronger than it seems at first. Much better than the 2007 vintage reviewed below...

Jan 2007 bottle, consumed on 11/25/07.

Pours a clear dark honeyed brown into a tulip glass. A fine, persistent off-white head two fingers high forms immediately despite a careful pour. Copious amounts of bubbles rise through the brew.

The aroma has that brown sugar, yeast and spice (cinnamon?) character I associate with Belgian ales.

Mouthfeel is smooth, almost creamy. Flavors explode out of this one! Big and malty with a black pepper bite. Serious astringency and alcohol bite round this one out before a lingering yeast and black pepper finish. Substantial.

APP - 4
SM - 3.5
TST - 3.5
MTH - 4
DRNK - 3.5

Photo of turbine2475
4.4/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Drdogbeer for this trade!!!
A - A very clensed ruby-brown that pour a thin vanilla head that disipates quickly
S - Great a plethora of spice, fruits, and toasted earthy hints
T - Great light and complex with a good balance
M - For the toasted malt and hop nature the brew carries it has no pretentious overwelmingness....Aka well balanced
D - Will drink anytime I get the chance to. Thanks to Drdogbeer and if any one wants to trade let me know!

Photo of calsbeek
3/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

This beer, like all of Avery's beers, is just over the top with stuff going on. I find this beer almost undrinkable. Whatever is there that makes it tolerable is likely from Vinnie.

Pours a nice deep rich brown with a sustaining head that is surprising given its alchohol content. The nose is all rum raisin and dark sugars, a little alcohol in the background. The beer is thick and rich like everything from Avery. Complexity...but not in a good way. I think its just too much to figure out. The moutfeel is big and bold, Full bodied but again, overpowering on the pallette. Its just not a beer that I'd look forward to drinking often.


Photo of iconoklaztor
3.6/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer is...*sigh* weird. Stupid adjective I know but it lends me to using it since I have trouble finding the words to correctly describe it. This beer to me looks nice as does the smell. The taste is amazing sweet but I wouldn't really want that in this beer. The mouth of this beer, to me, is thin and weak. I can grab hold of much texture or consistency. I would have expected more from two great breweries. I just really dont like this brew all that much. It's a good beer in the aspect of its not a micro but its not the best beer I've ever had either.

Overall, I wouldn't get this beer again. I simply would pay what I did for it. BUT hell you might enjoy so give it a shot.


Photo of SurlyDuff
4.65/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Okay, so Avery and Russian River both create a beer named Salvation. Instead of a copyright battle, they decided to blend the two together to form this tasty number.

Pours a brick/rust orange amber with a bit of a haze into my good ole' GuldenDraak chalice. Decent head retention, without sticking to the glass.

Aroma is tart fruit and burnt sugar...maybe burnt honey. I havn't ever burned honey, per se, but I imagine it to be something like this. Very clean and short lasting aroma.

Flavor is all over the place. The sweet seems to hit first, then a tartness. Spicy finish. Good earthy bitterness here, with grape, raisin, prune/plum. If this is indeed a 9%, then they mask it well. No alcohol burn or bite, but it warms you up inside.

Drinkability says 'keep going', but the ABV numbers caught my attention only in the nick of time. As it warms up, the drinkability actually increases, making me not want to reach the bottom of this bottle any time soon.

I have not tried either Salvation, which I now look forward to do side by side to see where each of the two is adding it's characteristics.

Photo of sholland119
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber into a snifter.

A-Pours a rusty, hazy amber with a small creamy head that is a little bit sticky.

S-a Belgiany yeast with some brown sugar and dark fruit.

T-Very light and caramelly but in the finish a little bit like iced tea.

M-again, very light and smooth.

D-very light and easy drinking. Does not taste like 9% ABV.

A perfectly nice belgian dark ale. I was certainly expecting something that would knock my socks off given the brewers involved. Still nice to be able to give it a try though.

Photo of dsa7783
4.22/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Special thanks to Kyle from Gary's in Madison for this one... From what I understand, this beer got its name because both Avery Brewing Co. and Russian River both had beers named "Salvation", so they decided to combine their two beers into this one special brew... The result is a very unique, rich, thick, example of an outstanding beer... Pours a purple, dark, ruby-red hue with minimal frothy head that soon dissipated... Smell was very sweet and rich, with obvious prune, figs, and caramel notes pouring through... Taste strongly complements the aroma, with rich brown sugar, malts, and a distincly sweet honey taste... the dark, dehydrated fruit flavor is really present, and makes itself very well known in this particular brew... overall, the taste was top-notch, a real stand-out... mouthfeel was ultra-rich and creamy and really enjoyable... drinkability was equally very good, and the hefty 8.99% ABV struggles to make itself known behind a wonderful cornucopia of thick and sweet flavors... Definitely recommended...

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.43/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Rust orange with a hint of brick red and a fine yeasty haze. The whipped creamy crown is an appealing shade of golden beige and has enough stickiness to maintain multiple foam bridges between itself and the glass. Meandering fingers of thick lace look good as well.

The nose contains all sorts of wonderful things. It's sweet and tart fruity, as well as being impressively clove spicy. I guess that's what happens when two such different beers are blended. At least when the brewers of those beers are as talented as Vinnie Cilurzo and Adam Avery. So far, the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts.

The same notion applies to the flavor profile, although I'm not yet convinced that the taste score will reflect it. Having said that, I still have a long way to go. First impressions suggest that what was best about each individual Salvation counters what was less than ideal about the other.

I found Avery Salvation to be slightly lacking in complexity, a bit too boozy and probably too highly hopped for the style. On the other hand, it was enjoyably sweet and orchard fruity. I found Russian River Salvation to be lacking in complexity as well, to be too sour for the style, but to be pretty tasty in all other respects.

CNLA is beautifully balanced. It isn't too sweet, too bitter or too sour, but is just right. Actually, this is what I'd hoped Russian River Salvation would taste like. That beer just needed more sweetness and less sourness.

The brewers won't divulge the proportions of each beer used, so I'll take a stab at it. How about Russian River Salvation (68.43%) and Avery Salvation (31.57%)? The flavor profile consists of bruised bananas and ripe apples swimming in a cocoa, caramel and candi sugar syrup, sprinkled liberally with ground clove. I don't know if this fine ale was this delicious initially, but I have the feeling that one year of rest has done it a world of good.

It isn't a bit surprising that two beers with good mouthfeels would equal one beer with a good mouthfeel. I didn't expect improvement here and didn't get it. To repeat something that I might have said in the other reviews, the body/mouthfeel is more than satisfactory for an American ale, while falling short of what is expected from a Belgian or Belgian-style ale. It's medium with a less than completely volumizing carbonation and a light stickiness on the finish.

I reviewed Russian River Salvation several weeks ago so that I could review Collaboration Not Litigation Ale having tasted each of its component parts. What I hoped would happen did, in fact, happen. The strengths of each beer collaborated and counteracted their individual weaknesses. This deserves to be a seasonal release if they can work out the logistics.

Avery Brewing Salvation: 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.0
Russian River Salvation: 4.5, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.05

Photo of chadspivey
4.18/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

So this one's been aged for some time now, I wonder how it's doing...

A: Pours a dark reddish oak color with a good one finger head

S: smells like a belgian! belgian yeasty stuff and dark fruit.

T: Apples, yeast, alcohol (but in a good way), brown sugar, slight yeast funkiness,

M: interesting mouthfeel because it stings the tongue, but in a good way, like eating an apple. It's like eating an alcoholic apple with yeast in it. ... but in a really good way.

D: I love good belgians, i'll drink them all night. This one is no exception.

Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 1,379 ratings.