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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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88
very good

1,322 Ratings
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Ratings: 1,322
Reviews: 696
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 10.49%
Wants: 33
Gots: 143 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007)
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Photo of DrJay
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nearly clear, deep amber colour with a short, fine head that produced solid sheets of lacing. Nifty aroma - citrusy, yeasty, spicy, and fruity. Solid bitterness with citrusy undertones and a moderate sugary fruit sweetness. Chewy malts throughout with a spicy alcohol finish. Full bodied, delicate carbonation, creamy with some pleasant warmth. This stuff hides its alcohol well. Nicely balanced and easy drinking.

DrJay, Jun 04, 2007
Photo of merlin48
3.53/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Body is a hazed orange/brown hue with a large offwhite head that hangs around for several minutes. Generous amounts of sheet lacing drape the goblet. Inviting aroma of dark fruits, musty yeast, bubblegum, guava, prunes and a hint of licorice. Mouthfeel has medium carbonation and body and some alcohol burn. Taste has lots of dark fruits, mostly figs and prunes. Bitter citrusy hops and yeast are also noted. Somewhat phenolic and abrasive with some harsh alcohol tones. An interesting concept here but I was hoping for a better result.

merlin48, May 30, 2007
Photo of Enola
4.15/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer is a nice reddish brown with a lasting head. The smell is smokiness and alcohol. The taste is caramel, smoked salmon and there is a nice alcohol finish. The alcohol lingers in the aftertaste and burns a little in the finish. The beer is a sipper that gets better as it warms. A very good beer that should age well.

Enola, May 28, 2007
Photo of taez555
3.33/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer poured an opaque brown body with a thick off-white head.

Nose is classic dark Belgian; soft chocolate, phenols, dark fruits, plums, prunes, dark raisins, dark cherries, charcoal, very mild spice, yeast and crystalized sugar. Really a breathtaking nose combining and punctuating all the great aspects of Belgian dark ales.

Taste is medium to full bodied. Dark malts, some slightly burnt and toasted flavors, cocoa, dark chocolate, yeast, phenols, dark fruits, spices and a very strong punch in the back end of this earthy muted dry hop and burnt grain sort of taste. Big bitterness and extremely dry and tannic with a very strong warming alcohol. Ends with a long lingering tannic coffee flavor and tons of lingering warmth.

What an interesting concept. Russian River and Avery making a hybrid of their beers called Salvation. It smells amazing, but the taste and balance are completely out of whack. Not to say it's bad at all, but it might do well with some serious aging.

taez555, May 28, 2007
Photo of wcudwight
3.3/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Enola for sharing.
Pours a murky, hazy, amber color. 1/4" khaki head that leaves a ring of lace around the top of the glass.
Lot's of Belgian yeast in the aroma with a kind of woody smell.
It's not bad tasting, but really not that exciting either. Well balanced. Not too sweet or bitter. Nice peppery finish that leaves a malt heavy aftertaste.
Mouthfeel is crisp, full, and filling.
This is certainly a slow sipper. I'm glad I've had the opportunity to try it, but I don't think I'll seek it out again.

wcudwight, May 28, 2007
Photo of ChazMania
3.05/5  rDev -22%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bomber, bottled Jan 2007. I have been chilling this for a few months, waiting for a good moment to savor. It pours lighter than I expected. The head is a good one finger and lingers with lacing. The aroma is faint, not very strong at all. The first flavor for me was faint banana. Some slight spice and fig flavor but it's not very pronounced. Although it is a good beer, i would not call it exceptional or unique to my palate.

ChazMania, May 26, 2007
Photo of lackenhauser
3.5/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a somewhat hazy, orange to brown color. Slightly phenolic aroma-quite yeasty and bread like. Very phenolic tasting. Bordering on astringent and solvent like. Slight spiciness to it. Again with the yeast characteristics. Medium body. Overall I cant find much here to get excited about. While a notch above average it doesnt overwhelm me in any way shape or form. I have had much better from Avery. Try it yourself and form your own opinion.

lackenhauser, May 26, 2007
Photo of BigJTrucker
4.55/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a slightly hazy golden dark brown color. Thick foamy slightly off white head settles slowly. Nice aroma of fresh bread is very pronounced, along with some brown sugar like sweet smell. Tastes amazing with a very good balance. At first, the hops seem like they want to overpower the flavor, but the added sugar along with the barley and wheat help to balance it out nicely. Mouthfeel is nice and full bodied, a little thick, not overly carbonated. A Very nice and drinkable ale. I'd love to try the two respective beers that go into it, and see how each contributes to the flavor. It's amazing. I could drink this every day.

BigJTrucker, May 20, 2007
Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Demcorhip: Poured a cloudy deep copper color ale with a nice foamy head with good retention. Aroma of sweet malt and medium funky yeast is pretty interesting. Taste of sweet malt is mix with some subtle sour notes and some light funky yeast. Body is quite full with some adequate carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Overall, this seems like a good concept but I still think I would prefer having my own bottle of RR salvation instead of this.

Phyl21ca, May 16, 2007
Photo of Mitchster
4.38/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

$6.99 for a 22oz bomber. Bottled Jan 2007. OG=1.079. 8.99% ABV. Brewed with barley and wheat malts, belgian candy sugar, turbinado sugar, hops, and two bealgian yeast strains.

Pours out quite a bit darker than expected. I haven't had Vinnie's Salvation, but I recall Adams Salvation as blonde in color. This is a near milky dark amber, forming a modest light tan head with average retention and adequate lacing. Carbonation is moderate. Mouthfeel is powdery and medium-dense bodied. The aroma is as expected for a tripel...cloves, bananas, bubble-gum, lots of phenols and esters...mango, raw apple cider. The taste begins with fruit and phenols but in the middle, a toasty roasted barley note comes into play, followed by a pleasantly strong bitterness. Hrmmm....not quite a tripel, not quite a BSDA. Macerated grape skins followed by a touch of tobacco and than cool floral hop bitterness hangs on the palate. Cleanly fermented, no off-flavors or aromas. Alcohol is perceptable in warmth, but not so in taste.

This is a really good brew but lacks that certain oomph that just makes me want to drink it all night. It reminds me of Matilda mixed 60:40 with Pere Jacques. The roasted malt and bitterness add to it's complexity but also limits it's drinkability. Kudos to Adam and Vinnie for the collaborative effort. More brewing companies should act the way these guys do.

Mitchster, May 16, 2007
Photo of HoustonTX
3.93/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Salvation meets...well...Salvation.

Copper brown body with a solid halo of fluffy white lacing.

Huge and brilliant aroma. Oily piney hops, caramel malt, dark fruit, and fragrant yeast characteristics. Smell is dead on for the style, and really sets the tone for the beer to come.

Taste is nearly as brilliant as the aroma. A bit more subdued, yet still highly complex. Huge earthy and caramel malt base support a mix of flavors flavors. Lots of dark fruit... purple grape skins, cherries, blueberries, raspberries, tart prunes, a touch of fig, raw leaf, and a sour brett edge. Yeast is evident and provides a dryness. Along with a balancing hoppiness. Overall flavor is tart with a hint of sourness. Mouthfeel is beautiful and tingly on the palate, and helps ease the beer down smoothly.

A collaboration well worth the time. A nicely put together beer, that offers a lot of complexity. Recommended.

HoustonTX, May 14, 2007
Photo of dirtylou
4.33/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber, had been wanting to try this so i was glad when i spotted some at brennans on watts road while cheese shopping.

appearance: pours into a la chouffe glass...bright ruby body, fluffy tan head that is prominent all the way through...nice inviting brew

smell: aroma features more of the russian river traits than avery, strong clean yeast presence, black cherry, blackberries, light clove, light cinnamon...nice complex nose

taste: The more I drink of this, the more i like it....Having had both the Avery and Russian River, i tend to agree that this is a case of the avery compliment the RR. This is beautifully spiced yeast creation, lots of great dark fruit highlighted by sweet cherry and berry. I like this a lot

mouthfeel: very smooth, noticeably well spiced, yeasty

drinkability: nice

dirtylou, May 13, 2007
Photo of gunnerman
3.93/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

For my 100th review I thought how awesome it would be to review a fine collaboration of two awesome breweries into one amazing looking ale. Poured into a stone russian imperial stout snifter, pours an amazing copper redish brown with a fluffy 2 finger head that leaves some serious lace on the glass. Smell is of fresh malt and bread also a bit of figs and dates in the nose and just a hit of hoppy finish as well. Taste is a bit of malt of upfront with some fresh grapes and also a bit of earth, a little bit of bitterness and a bit of a alcohol burn. This is a extremly good offering and such a great idea of mixing the 2 together, awesome job and hopefully will follow with other great collaborations.

gunnerman, May 09, 2007
Photo of John_M
3.95/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap at Mahaffey's the other night.

This beer pours an interesting brownish orange color, with decent head retention and adequate (if not especially impressive) lacing. On the nose this is reminiscent of a Belgium brown ale, with sweet malt and spice. On the palate, this is quite an interesting beer. It's start off fairly sweet, but on the midpalate there is a sour component. The beer tastes as if the brewer added some sort of lambic or gueuze, which definitely adds to the complexity. The beer is not particulary heavy or mouth filling, and the flavors are a bit light.

An interesting beer, and a good one, though not one I'm likely to order too often in the future. There are more interesting Belgium and Belgium wannabees out there.

John_M, May 08, 2007
Photo of biking4beer
3.93/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle poured into a goblet.

I had to pour this one pretty aggressively to get a decent head. After a while, it dissipates to a whisp. The beer is a deep brown with a hint of ruby.

Smells of banana, candy sugar, Belgian yeast, raisins, and spice.

This one has a lot going on in the taste department. Caramel, grains, Belgian yeast, slight alcohol, peppery spice, and a touch of clove. It's really hard to discern the different tastes because this is one tart beer.

This is an incredibly creamy beer. Smooth. The mouthfeel is definitely the highlight of this beer.

If this one wasn't so funky tart, it would be much better, but that keeps the drinkability fairly low. The last few sips were a little tough to polish off, but it's definitely worth a go if you can get your hands on a bottle. Or I guess you could just blend them yourself with a heavier hand on Avery's Salvation.

biking4beer, May 07, 2007
Photo of Lnedrive14
3.83/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I don't know that I loved it, but props for ingenuity.

A: Looked like a mix of two beers - bottom was brutal gold, top was copper/orange/amber/hazy. It was like a belgian gold on the bottom of a scaldis or something like that. Big head, decent retention.

T/S: Lots of flavors - they just didn't mix well! It has an earthiness to it. Lots of fruity esthers and sweetness on the bottom, molasses and roasted malts on the top. strong alcohol sense throughout.

I don't know - something about it just didn't work for me. it didn't have the standardness throughout - each taste was something new, and whenever it worked, it wouldn't work in the next sense.

Lnedrive14, May 06, 2007
Photo of Abita45
3.78/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass with a thin head that quickly dissolved. Color is an opaque bourbon with a relatively non-descript aroma of fruit and clove. The taste is, as it should be, the best part of this beer. Smooth and malty with a slightly sugary, molasses taste that is cut by clove and fruit tones. The alcohol is pronounced, but not overpowering. While overall, I don't think this is a top notch Belgian style, but it is pretty good and the backstory is great.

Abita45, May 05, 2007
Photo of ski271
4.47/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

On-tap at Zeno’s in State College. Dark, cloudy amberish-brown with a medium-sized, creamy, off-white head that slowly diminishes to a tenacious film. Smell is fairly busy with prune, alcohol, clove, earth, cherry, and a little raisin. The Taste follows suit with it’s flavors. Wonderful, long, sweet finish of prunes and cherries with a nice bit of alcohol warmth. It has a medium body and lightly syrupy texture. Just a little bit cloying, but still I found this to be a fantastic beer. Definitely worth a try.

ski271, May 04, 2007
Photo of ksullnh
3.93/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 1/2007, tasted 4/2007...

A: The color of a penny, with slightly tarnished copper. Translucent but slightly cloudy with a tiny bit of yeast. Quickly dissipating head in my glass tumbler.

S: Sweet malty smell with hints of dark fruits - maybe some cherry? A light molasses scent as it warmed in the glass.

T: Some late heat, very balanced. Sweet but not cloying.

M/D: Nice carbonation kept it from tasting heavy.

ksullnh, May 03, 2007
Photo of Shaw
4.4/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I had to try this beer, since Russian River's own brews are not sold anywhere near Florida.

This is a deep, deep ruby in color with a large, sticky foamy head. It smells of candy sugar and caramel with a hint of alcohol: very nice.

The taste is also very good. It's very complex, with sweet notes mixing with musty and earth flavors and just a bit of sharpness. This has all the classic flavors of the style, one of my favorites.

The body is also excellent. It's chewy and smooth and essentially coats my mouth.

Overall this is an excellent beer, as should be expected from the world class Russian River and the excellent Avery. Good work, gentlemen.

Shaw, Apr 30, 2007
Photo of phishgator
3.35/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a chimay chalice. The head was lacking for the style. The color was a murky light brown. The sediment in the bottle was pured into the last glass and there was a good amount of particles. The aroma was of sweet candi sugar and sweet malted barley. There is a faint scent that is close to pears. The taste is the same sweet malt and candi sugar. The coating of your mouth is strong. Not my favorite from either brewery.

phishgator, Apr 28, 2007
Photo of walshclimb
4.15/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First off - what a great concept! Not just what the name implies, but also mixing beers from different breweries to create a unique and excellent beer. We tasted this between the Avery and Russian River Salvations with the Avery first. This was definitely the right order as the beers seem to increase in complexity through the tasting. The Collaboration Ale brings out the best qualities of both Salvations, but we did not feel that the Collaboration was quite as good as the Russian River.

The Collaboration has a clear, amber appearance with a foamy head withich dissipates a little faster than the Avery Salvation. It smells of carmel and malt with a slightly musty scent picked up from the Avery. Taste is nice and malty with a hint of roasted nuts. Mouthfeel is nice with medium to full body and smooth. Flavorful but nor overwhelming, I wish I coudl get more.

walshclimb, Apr 27, 2007
Photo of BEERchitect
4.33/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

If the Belgians can blend lambics, then why can't we blend Dark Ales. The result is a wonderful beer, chalked full of sweetness, tartness, spiciness, and character. The results are very common to the Avery Salvation, but with a sweeter, mellower, less-bitey, lower-strength brew. Well concocted and well matured. Since I have never tried Russian River's Salvation, I don't know how they compare. The beer starts off with a deep mohogany hue, slight of opaque. Well headed and carbonated, with no suprises. Spicy-sweet, earthy, and estery aromas, as most good Belgian Darks. Tastes are heavy on the malts, showing figs, dates, apples, berries, grapes, and light molassas. The feel is full and rich, without becomming cloying or chewey. Light astringency and residual sweetness lingers in the mouth, due to lighter hopping rates. A terrific brew, expecially for the price. This combination makes Black-'n-Tans look silly.

Thanks Pwoody! (04/09/10)

BEERchitect, Apr 25, 2007
Photo of aforbes10
4.05/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Not entirely sure what to serve this in so i went with my Orval goblet. Oaky brown and bubbly with a nice quarter inch of tan colored head. Odor is sweet and a little Brett-y (does R.R. use Brett in their Salvation?) Other odors of apples and cloves as well. smells very good. Flavor overall is spicy and sour. very clovey, even peppery, with sweet maltiness and some bitter orange as well. I'm also getting a hunk of barnyard in the flavor too, which i'll chalk up to the real or imagined presence of brett in here. Full bodied, maybe on the edge of being syrupy. Very good, I'd definitely get this again if i saw it again.

aforbes10, Apr 24, 2007
Photo of jbsteiny
4.15/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Saw this at Flatbush Farm's bar shortly after I'd seen it listed topping some BA folk's top lists, so I split it with a buddy. Great label -- it had me cracking up, so I took the bottle into the bathroom and peeled it off under the warm water...

The beer was a dark mahogany with an inch of sticky head which subsided, but left some short-lived lace on the glass. A lot going on in the nose -- starts with dried fruit (raisins, plum, cherries), but I also got roasted malt, anise, brown sugar, toffee, and a slight leafy hop. Tastes even more complex -- would be a 5 but for some heat from the booze -- a heavy fruit-malt combo which is fairly well balanced (for the style, which can get fairly sweet) with the herbs & spices (light herbal/floral hops, anise, coriander). Creamy carbonation offsets the syrupiness, and, though it was incredibly delicious, I'm glad I wasn't drinking this 650ml alone... Recommended, but share.

jbsteiny, Apr 24, 2007
Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 1,322 ratings.