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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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Ratings: 1,393
Reviews: 706
rAvg: 3.9
pDev: 10.51%
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Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007

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Photo of Floydster
4.33/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bomber purchased from Cooke's Family Market in El Segundo for about seven dollars

Review #375

Bottled in January 2007, so this brew is close to a year old now and I think the age did this well, even though I have never had these two beers separately, even though I have one sitting in my cellar right now, and I have no idea what to compare to their individual tastes to, still needed to try this before it began going downhill

Poured into my Trappist Westvleteren chalice with a dark orange/light brown color and a 3/4 inch soapy white head that left a large amount of lacing throughout my glass, was not near as dark as I was expecting

Smell was nice, had a lot of different things going on as far as sugars and different fruits went, lots of malt, aroma was mostly sweet with some bread-like accents

Taste was full of raisins, prunes, apples, sugar, caramel, and bananas, it tasted more like a tripel than a Belgian dark ale, but that is probably becuase of the changes it underwent while in the cellar, had a nice dry beginning that faded into a sweet and fruity aftertaste, lasted a long time as well, has some bready malt that lingered, the quality of this one surprised me, the only thing I wonder is how much it changed, but I will never know because I was not able to try this fresh, oh well, great Belgian blend from Avery and my favorite, Russian River

Very carbonated still which was a surprise, this one had a nice full body

Could drink several bottles of this, pretty light although alcohol content is fairly high, very good, one of Avery's best, buy this if possible, even spend the extra dollar if necessary because it will not be brewed again, highly recommended

Photo of objectivemonkey
4.58/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled Jan '07, the label showing both Avery and RR Salvations pouring into a chalice, with the story on the side. Now, I don't thing I've had either Salvation before, so this'll be interesting.

Into a Duvel tulip, pours a darker mahogany with good head of an off-white color, whipped into a froth with a smattering of bubbles about and from below, lacing splashed all upon the glass, quite lovely. The aroma is quite full and rich, fruits and sweet malts abound, lovingly yeasty with a touch of spices, nice.

And it tastes just lovely, covers all the bases of a BSDA with ease. Starts off with an effervescent carbonation giving a strong and hearty push to a clove filled malty introduction, some candied sugars evident, sweets rolling through. As it rounds the corner, the earthy hopping becomes evident with the fruity load, a long finish yielding a collection of everything previous in a round, notably a very sweet, caramel fruity malt, quite lovely.

Now, besides your Black & Tan and such, this is my first of the new mixing fad, and I have to say, whatever ratio they settled upon, it works marvelously.

Photo of Viggo
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to grub for sharing this one with me.

Pours a slightly cloudy red/orange, nice off white head, some lace spots, head settles down pretty quick to a thin ring. Smell is sweet and malty, sugars, floral, some acidic fruit, light funk. Taste is similar, malty, very fruity, bread, light sour funkiness, dates, nice. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low to medium carbonation, goes down pretty smooth. A nice product from Avery, definately at the top of their list, thanks Russ!

Photo of KarlHungus
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours a cloudy brown color with a light amber hint. The head large, billowy, and off white. Lacing is thorough with chunks sticking to the side of the glass. The aroma is of caramel, nuts, anise, cream, and dates. The taste is a lot more lively than the aroma. Anise and dark spices play a much more pronounced role in it than they do in the aroma. The mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with lively carbonation, and a smooth texture. Overall, this is a nice beer. It might not be the best dark Belgian ale around, but it is still tasty.

Photo of RedChrome
3.51/5  rDev -10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A tea brown colored beer. Thick creamy tan colered head was an inch and a hlaf and stayed a few minutes. Massive amount of timy carbonation bubbles. Sticky lacing.

Burnt earthy grains and a slight yeasty note were subdued. Furity notes were also present but just like with the other scents they didn't really have much strength.

Chewy bread like flavors. Malt and yeast cominate with a light coffee note in the finish. Apple taste was dirty. Sweetness isn't overpowering, but there is very little bitterness to balance.

Clingy and thick. A light carbonation tingling didn't really help shift any flavors.

A decent selection. I would like this witch a rich apple dessert. A great blending from two great brewers. Definitly one to sample for Belgian lovers.

Photo of Gusler
4.36/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Upon its dismissal from the 22 ounce bottle, the beer shows off a creamy light tan head that piles high on the mahogany body, after its disappearance, the lacing forms a tight sheet to obscure the glass. Nose is a conglomeration of aromas, sweet malt, bread dough, port wine, cotton candy, caramel, and spices, clove I think. Start has a deep malt sweetness, some alcohol bitterness at the back with the top moderate in feel. Finish has a personable hop spiciness, acidity tolerable, and the aftertaste dry. Magnificent beer, as “Belgian Strong(s)” are my favorite style, this was a most enjoyable beer.

Photo of YonderWanderer
3.73/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a light brownish/slight reddish color with a half finger of vigorously bubbling foam. Not much lacing on the glass. Some nice floating particles from the yeast in the bottom of my glass.

S: Not much aroma. Some yeasty, bready notes, with hints of fruit.

T: Heavy yeast flavors, with hints of cherries and raisins abound. Some breadiness and other yeast tones. Pretty tasty overall. I'm curious how it compares to the two original versions of Salvation.

M: Crisp, with a nice dry finish.

D: This is a good Belgian ale, with a unique story behind it. Blending the two brews gives it an interesting character. Nicely done.

Photo of elricorico
4.08/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Label says it was bottled in Jan 2007. Cherry red body, not far from opaque. One finger of tan head that hangs on for a while. Spotty lacing.

Very yeasty smell. Molasses, cherries and candy sugar. Not as full an aroma as some Belgian style brews.

Light cherry sweetness up front that becomes slightly tart and yeasty through the middle. Molasses starts to show as it warms. Dry finish.

Medium to full body with a natural feeling, subtle carbonation. This is a pleasant and easy drinker, the alcohol is hidden and the overall effect is quite pleasant. Thanks to orrshow for splitting the bottle.

Photo of SwillBilly
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Purchased at Roy's Wine and Spirits, Ft. Pierce Fl while on my yearly fishing trip to the Treasure Coast. Bottled Jan 2007.

Appearance: Pours dark amber to light brown in color with a thick and foamy off white heads that faded slowly to a thin coating topping the beer. Sticky lacing lines the glass.

Smell: Lots of Belgian yeast character, fruity esters and slightly phenolic, hints of sweet brown sugar and caramel.

Taste: Starts nice and malty with dark sugars present, then the fruitiness kicks in with light banana, plums, and raisins. Alcohol is well hidden for a 9% abv beer. Hops make a very subtle appearance as and earthy bitterness lingers ever so lightly in the finish.

Mouthfeel: Rather light in the mouth but typical for the style. Highly carbonated and slightly dry.

Drinkability/Notes: Gald I had the opportunity to give this a try. A nice Belgian Strong Dark, lighter in color than most I have tried previously. Very fruity and malty with plenty of belgian dark sugar though rather light in the mouth. A very drinkable beer for sure. Seek and Enjoy.

Photo of Dogbrick
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled at From The Vine beer tasting Jan 26th, 2007: Hazy dark brown color with a medium thick bone white head that has good retention. Stringy lacing on the glass. Aroma of spices and yeast, along with touches of sweet caramel and malt. Rich body with an interesting flavor profile. It doesn’t seem to exactly fit in the Belgian category but you can definitely tell it is part of the blend. Flavors of hops and spices are predominant, along with some yeast and dark fruits. The finish is moderately hoppy with a sweet spice aftertaste. Pretty solid from beginning to end.

Photo of bluegrassbrew
4.23/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle into a snifter.

Pours a deep reddish color. Huge billowy off white head. Leaves solid lacing.

Smell is a bit subtle, when compared to the flavor at least. Smells of sweet figs and alcohol. A bit of winey grape in there as well.

Taste is very good, and very complex! Starts off with a twinge of alcohol and a certain leathery taste. A bit metallic in the middle with an edge of candi sugars and sweet malts. Finishes very complex. Chocolate and dark fruits replace each other with every sip.

Overall, this was a very good idea that made for a very good beer. Complexity stands out. Recommended!

Photo of Sammy
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A good Belgian strong with pleasing wine-like tannins and a bit on the tart cherry side. Not for the novice as much as one who appreciates the above. Dark reddish brown and yeast and wine-like aromas. Medium mouthfeel. Very quaffable. One of the best Avery products.

Photo of kmpitz2
4.06/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22 oz bomber. The beer is very deep amber in color with a 2-finger off-white head that sits very strong over the brew. Clarity is excellent, at least to start, and there is a modest carbonation working up. The aroma is a dichotomy between sweet and spicy. There is deep caramel and brown sugar with prevalent fruity esters in there. The spice is almost a little allspice in nature. I think this one smells nice. The flavor is more slanted towards a raisin fruityness and light brown sugar sweetness, with a solid spice that moves into a light bitterness on the finish, along with some distinct "green" flavors from the hop. It is very flavorful, with solid complexity I like the little kick from the hop on the finish that rounds the flavor out. Mouthfeel is thick, with a very light carbonation, almost none at all. This one is deceptive, as it drinks like it is about 6%, but it certainly packs more than that. This one is good.

Photo of younger35
3.38/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Received this in a trade with BeerTruth. I’m almost 100% sure that this was the very first beer I put on my wants list. As I sit here watching the end of the Cowboys vs Bears I can’t wait to take a sip. Drank out of a oversized wine glass.

Appearance- Pours a dark brownish tan with hints of yellows and dark purples. Fairly big one finger tan head that quickly recedes but leaves a soft pad of bubbly foam and a huge collar of sticky goodness. Lots of thick, puffy lacing runs down the side of the glass.
Smell- Dark luscious fruits dominate this brew with huge plum, raisins, apricots, figs and prunes. Maybe a bit of clove and a peppery spiciness. There is a dirtiness to this brew that is weird. Doesn’t have that usual dirty mustiness that some Belgium’s have. It’s just a raw smell. I’m assuming it’s the yeast but this nose is new to me.
Taste- Lot’s of doughy malt and semi sweet. Artisan (that the correct spelling?) water leaves traces of minerals throughout the brew. Reminds me of the well water from my grandma’s house growing up. Tinges of that dirtiness shows in the mouth but it’s not as prevalent as the nose. If I didn’t know any better I would guess that this beer was barrel aged. It has some flavor characteristics that I associate with casks such as hints of vanilla and a subtle oak. Kind of fruity but not in a familiar “dark fruit” way. Reminiscent of cranberry sauce, apricots and brandy. The most amazing thing IMO about this beer is that there is zero alcohol; it’s covered amazingly well.
Mouthfeel- Slightly thick and chewy and surprisingly slick with nice fine (again kind of reminiscent of casks) carbonation.
Drinkability- Not bad. This beer goes down fairly easy considering the alcohol content but it isn’t the best Strong Dark Belgium I’ve tried (although definitely the best American SDB I’ve had, though this may be the first). I’m really excited to try each beer that makes this brew up individually. Thanks again to BeerTruth, another great trader!

Photo of ndekke39
4.5/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Split a bomber of this with my good friend kboett77. Poured into a tall, rounded white wine glass. Great retention and decent lacing. It's a cloudy reddish-copper with a thin, off-white head. I can see sediment suspended in the beer. Looks like a fresh apple cider. Smells like one, too. Green apples, burnt sugar, tea, and a very green hops. Very fresh and malty character. Flavors of the cider and tea, plus a slightly biscuity malt. Again, the fruity and malty character. Slight hop bitterness on the middle and back of the tongue. Almost like the bitterness of a very strong tea. Medium-bodied mouthfeel. Very drinkable beer. One the most enjoyable Belgian Strong Darks I've ever had. Glad to see what came of this collaboration, and I look forward to more!

Photo of dfillius
4.38/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured in snifter
A: deep reddish brown, thin fine head
S: Elusive smell. Slight, airy fruit. Not substantial, but pleasant. Stronger fruit as it warms
T: Sweet, but not cloying. Well balanced heat. Quite tame for 9%
M: Smooth balanced carbonation
I am looking forward to trying this side by side with both Salvations

Second time trying - side-by-side with both Avery and Russian River Salvations. drank in a snifter.
A: Dark and cloudy - dark from Russian River, cloudy from Avery. Bubbles like Russian River.
S: I smell the pineapple from Avery and the spiciness from Russian River. Also some breadiness.
T: Tastes like candy peach rings. Some heat and nutty/brown ale flavors.
M: Just like a mix of the two, not much uniqueness.
D: More drinkable than either of them by themselves due to the English Brown Ale flavor.

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.91/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - pours with much foaming, so much in fact that I quickly went with a slower, smoother side pour which tamed things down considerably, limiting the head to two fingers of light tan, pocky foam. Recedes pretty quickly despite some aggressive bead action. Not much lace but there is a thick and sticky collar. Impressive head retention, a thin layer atop the brownish amber beer throughout the tasting, creating a sheet of lace on one side of the glass.

Aroma - bready, lots of yeast and a good bit of alcohol. Pretty straight up for the style. Shows some fruitiness after settling.

Taste - sweet and malty, bready and yeasty at the swallow. Some alcohol vapors blend in there, followed by a mild hoppiness and a rather robust finish of toasted grain, I think. The alcohol is not all that well masked but it fits in well in the right places. A standup Belgian.

Mouthfeel - smooth, slightly heavy, lots of carbonation.

Drinkability - grows on me as I progress through the bottle. I would not turn down another tonight in spite of the potency.

Photo of t0rin0
3.85/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I read about this on the Avery website a while back and I thought it was really neat idea but I never thought Id get to try one. I tried it out of a 22 oz bottle and poured into a pint glass.

It was darker than I expected it to be considering that the Avery Salvation was a golden color. It was kind of a coppery color and had a thick creamy head.

It smelled sweet and a bit fruity. It tasted about the same. The only difference being some of the darker malts came out in the flavor. It tasted good but not quite as spectacular as the Avery website would have us believe.

Mouthfeel was typical for a belgian beer, not too heavy not too light. Very drinkable beer, quite smooth. Would like to have more of this to get me through the hot days ahead.

Photo of crwills
3.58/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bomber purchased at Beers of the World in Rochester, NY.

I have tried Russian River Salvation (although I don't remember it well) but not Avery Salvation. That said, I was expecting something pretty spectacular and got a disappointingly average Belgian ale. There was nothing WRONG with it -- it was actually fairly drinkable and had some strong points. But it certainly didn't blow my mind, and didn't come off as anything special or unique for being a combination of the two brews.

Anyway, poured a nice-looking deep brown into a goblet. Good-sized head and some decent lacing. Aroma is quite floral, with notes of clover and other wildflowers. Some light caramel notes in there as well. The floral hop notes carry into the flavour, although they're relatively mild in comparison to the aroma. Not much additional hop character to speak of. Slight chocolate and pumpernickel bread flavours, with a little bit of tart fruit. However, for a beer this big, I definitely would have liked to see all these flavours beefed up a bit. There may have been some complexity there, but everything was just too subtle.

Definitely drinkable, but not something I'd seek out.

Photo of bruachan
4.06/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

the story on the bottle/avery website is fun. gotta love the brotherhood that is brewing

the color is quite nice. ruby, no...darker. there was once a booming head above the red liquid, but all that is left is a high-water mark and some good lacing

deep fruity scents and a mild yeastiness lurk in the deepred depths. little sign of hops. a bit bland, actually, especially compared to the flavors

a lively mouthfeel cuts through serious malt flavors. there is more than a shadow of hop flavor but the bulk of the experience comes with the cherry and the caramel and apricot. brown sugar suggests itself, as well. if it were not for the serious bubblage it might taste/feel a bit sticky

this is nice brew. next up i see the Czar blended with Supplication

Photo of deanhead
3.96/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was the very first beer that I was able to taste the was brewed by Russian River. At any rate at least half the beer was brewed by Vinnie.

Appearance- This beer seemed to be lightly carbonated, The minimal head with super tiny bubbles gave way to a deep brown color of the elixir beneath it.. The color improved as the beer warmed up in the glass. In fact everything about this beer became more appealing as it warmed in my hand. This huge beer was served in a tulip glass. IMHO was served way to cold, so that's why I warmed it a bit, and let it rest for a few minutes.

Smell- Initially this beer was almost completely void of any scent. Possibly due to the fact that it was served so cold. Once it warmed up I picked up all malt, and no hop nose to speak of here (true to the style) . Slight hints of bubble guml, as well as a subtle toasty/sweetness.

Taste- This beer is very well balanced, considering it is a blend of two brews. It's got a huge malt backbone, complimented with what taste like noble hops to me. Slight horse blanket. This beer has Carmel tones, embodied with sweetness, tobacco, and some slight tannins. It's a warming beer, but not an overpowering alcohol taste. I also noted very slight phenolic taste.

Mouthfeel- This beer had a nice medium body to it, aside from the bubblegum, upfront it was very clean, it finished with a really slight phenolic taste. It was very slight, but present, indicative of the style. So some was to be expected. :)

Drinkability- This beer is going to age really well!!. I liked it, but couldn't drink another one of these single handily again.It knocked me on my tail, it is a really big beer! Best enjoyed with a good friend. I expect that this one will really shine if you cellared it for a couple years

Photo of sloejams
3.8/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I remember reading about this about a year ago and thought it was great that the two came together to do this and managed to keep Vinnie's affinity for having his Belgians end with "tion". I thought highly of Russian River's Salvation but haven't had Avery's recently enough to really be a good judge.
This being a blend of the two, I was interested in trying the results.

It was a bit sweeter than the RR offering. Tastes of plums and raisins caught my palate. As I continued to drink, I found the breathing improved it. Or my palate got used to it. Either way, I enjoyed it.

In all I'd take the RR Salvation alone over this, but this is a fine tasting experiment.

Photo of ommegangpbr
2.9/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

A mixture of Salvations...
Like the idea but not so much the beer...
Pours a deep amber to a deep reddish brown. The head that does form is off white but quickly goes away to a small bit of white foam.
Smells of fruit cake or candy with booze. Some spices are there, coriander is the one that I can detect most easily. Sweet, almost rotting fruit scents at times.
Tastes speak of the scents with molasses thrown in. The mouthfeel makes me think I've just eaten something with too much cinnamon in it, though cinnamon isn't necessarily in the flavor.
I think I've had Avery's Salvation and recall not digging it so much. If I had to guess it's the Avery brew that's responsible for what I'm not liking about this brew. I find myself not wanting to finish the bottle.

Photo of GClarkage
4.42/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

08/16/07- Purchased at Ledger's Liquors in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 22oz bottle with a bottled on month on the lower part of the label (January of 2007). Poured into my Damnation tulip.

Appearance- Deep caramel brown colored pour with a 3/4 inch slight off white head. Leaves pretty nice lace patches and streaks.

Smell- Really nice deep roasted caramel nose with various dark fruits. Light prunes, but mostly figs and some raisins. Smells like it's going to be fairly sweet. Maybe even a bit of chocolate in the nose.

Taste- Soft tasting mix of plums, prunes, raisins and figs. A nice bit of hops awaits in the finish. About the sweetness expected out of the nose...some semi-rich roasted caramel. No metal taste at all which is always nice.

Mouthfeel- Medium carbonation level, nice slight hop aftertaste.

Drinkability- About what I expected going in. A very tasty beer that I would definitely have again in a minute. Not sure how much aging would do to this one though. May drink my other fairly soon.

Photo of markaberrant
3.97/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - colour is a dark orange with red hues. Lots of carbonation, but it pours nothing but a thin cap. No lacing.

S - very nice malty sweet nose, with a background of spice.

T - starts out with sweet dark fruit (figs, raisins), some spice notes and even some earthy hop flavour in the middle, then a dry chocolate alcohol finish.

M - a little heavier mouthfeel than a traditional belgian, but the carbonation keeps things light enough. The overall effect is very creamy. I do find that it has quite a bit of alcohol warmth, but it is not "hot."

D - Not exactly a summer refresher, this one should be consumed slowly.

Can't say I've had the chance to try either Salvation, but the combo works pretty well for me. I've only had one other "red" belgian, Maudite, which I don't care for (seems to have no identity), but this one is excellent. I hope to try more Avery and Russian River products in the future!

Thanks to Demcorhip for the bottle!

Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 1,393 ratings.