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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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88
very good

1,320 Ratings
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Ratings: 1,320
Reviews: 696
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 10.49%
Wants: 33
Gots: 143 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007)
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Photo of Crosling
3.35/5  rDev -14.3%

First off, I really like both these breweries, but I was skeptical after first hearing about this beer and for very good reason. Blending two Belgian style beers both called Salvation just seemed a little too convenient to me. It pours light brown, much more similar to the color of RR Salvation. The nose is rather dull, revealing light notions of spice, bubble gum and fruit. On the palate, up front, there is not a lot there. Some muddled fruits toward the mid-palate with some black licorice hints on the extremely short finish.

Crosling, Apr 13, 2007
Photo of jmalex
4.35/5  rDev +11.3%

I drink this tonight in anticipation of Russian River Night at Capone's in Norristown, PA next Wednesday. This will be on tap that night, but there's going to be so much else, I fear I may not be able to sample this one. So I'll have my own Russian River Night tonight with this (OK, it can be Avery night too!)

APPEARANCE: Pours a mahogany brown with light amber highlights. A finely-bubbled one-finger cap drops to a perfect patchwork head. Lacing is scant, but hardly non-existent.

SMELL: Before I even hold this to my nose, I'll say that I could detect the brettanomyces from across the kitchen after opening the bottle. After taking a sniff, this is an awesome scent. A really neat combination of the funk of the brett with fruit, Belgian yeast, and caramelly sweetness. The aromas blend with each other well making them difficult to isolate. As it warms, some spicy hops are also detectable.

TASTE: I've never tasted anything like this. The two beers are much more distinct in the flavor, but go together very well. The funkiness of the brett hits you first and then starts going so many places. The funk becomes much stronger and horse-blankety at the same time that a very caramelly and fruity Belgian Strong Dark comes into play. The finish is very bready as the tastes that started it off continue right to the end.

MOUTHFEEL: Sharp carbonation and smooth easy-drinking body. A bit filmy on the finish, but still nice.

DRINKABILITY: I just realized there's one word that I haven't typed yet this review - "alcohol". I didn't even notice it this entire time, and now that I see it's 9%, I'm quite impressed. Oh, it's there, and you'll notice it if you're looking for it, but there's so much else going on in this beer, you won't think twice before finishing off this bomber. Dangerously drinkable!

Collaboration Not Litigation is sold under the Avery name, but they and Russian River deserve equal credit in crafting this fine elixir. Though it'd be nice if the two beer were indistinguishable from each other in the taste, one can still say that both Salvations contribute equally in this offering. It's a really great thing that two breweries could work together to create something so unique, and I hope to see (and taste) more beers like this in the future. Thank you Avery and Russian River!

jmalex, Apr 13, 2007
Photo of TexIndy
4.03/5  rDev +3.1%

Poured from a 650ml bottle that was bottled in Jan 07 into my NBB snifter. The label had an interesting story of how this beer came together as a collaboration between Avery and Russian River. It had a rich mahogany color that had a 2 1/2 finger head. It slowly settled into a constant foam feed by a steady stream of carb. The aroma was sweet malt with dark fruits and strong yeast. Didn't get much of a hop presence. Had a good balance and wasn't overly sweet like I find some BSDA's. The taste was really good and again had a very great balance. It starts out sweet in the middle of the tongue than the flavor hits the sides and finishes strong without a heavy alcohol presence or too much sweetness. The mouthfeel is nice and solid with a gentle attack of carb to round it out. Overall, I really enjoyed this one which suprised me since I'm finding that I don't like too many BSDA's. This one gets the job done without overplaying the ABV or over-relying on raisins for flavoring like some. Highly recommend. (4, RB, T, Y)

TexIndy, Apr 11, 2007
Photo of AltBock
4.1/5  rDev +4.9%

22 oz. bomber bottle with a bright and shiny silver label that has some silver foil over the cap. If you see a bottle that's blinding you, it's probably this one. The label has a picture of the arm of Vinnie Cilurzo of Russian River Brewing pouring his Salvation and the arm of Adam Avery of Avery Brewing pouring his Salvation into a black goblet that stands on top some black and brown grains that are in the shape of a star. Above this picture is the name of the beer in black letters with gold trim. Below the picture is the bottling date of January 2007, size of the bottle, it's O.G. of 1.079, ABV% of 8.99% where it's bottled and an object that I guess is supposed to be one of those two man saws. From a distance it looks like something you might inhale. Just ask Mary Jane for her opinion on what it looks like. To the left is the barcode, Government warning, and the suggested glassware. To the right of the picture in tiny black letters is a novel on how this beer came to fruition. If you got an hour to spare, then I suggest you read it. Just be careful when you pick this bottle up because light could reflect off it and blind you permanently.

Appearance: When poured into a Lion Brewery tulip/goblet glass, the beer is a swamp murky brown, but if held into the light, the beer is actually a dark reddish amber brown with some tangerine orange glow toward the bottom. It had somewhere near a half an inch head of white bubbly foam that had fair retention that left behind a small film of white foam, some white foamy rings, and some spotty white lace in its tracks. Not as blinding as the label's shiny color, but still this beer had a very nice color.

Smell: You really need to stick your nose into the glass to smell all the flavors that are hiding in this beer. Had a nice combination of juicy and dark fruits, cloves, a hint of coriander, bready malts, a few spices, and if you swirl the beer around, a mild aroma of banana will emerge from the background. It's very light in hops. In fact, there wasn't any hop notes in the aroma. That's OK, I enjoyed the banana aroma that came out of this. It only comes out when you swirl the beer.

Taste: The taste was spicy at first, but when the spices receded, it then became somewhat fruity with juicy fruits and a few citrus fruits. This was followed by a few other spices, toasted bready malts, cloves, coriander, anise, a few bitter hops, and then fished off with some bready yeast and a mild touch of alcohol burn. I'm surprised with the low hop profile this beer had. I really was expecting more hops in this for some reason, but it doesn't matter because even with the low hop profile, it's still a very delicious beer. If they were trying to accomplish by making a Belgian style beer, then mission accomplished. To me it had Belgian style written all over it.

Mouthfeel: It was medium bodied that's somewhere near the full bodied border. It had a mild aftertaste with a slight hop punch that eventually turned into a few bready malts, yeast and alcohol. It's another one of those beers that totally masks it's alcohol content. If I haven't read that it had an alcohol ABV% of close to 9%, I would have thought that maybe it was at a 7 to 7.5% ABV.

Drinkability: I've never had an Avery Salvation or a Russian River Salvation before, but I can tell you that both of these combined make for a very good brew that I could easily enjoy again. I'm glad I got to try this one. I sure as hell didn't have a problem drinking a whole bomber by myself. If you Avery and Russian River beers, then you don't want to miss this one. After this, I wish I saw more beer collaborations.

AltBock, Apr 10, 2007
Photo of Imstillthegman
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%

Broke this one out after Easter dinner. Shared with my Brother-in-law.

Poured a cloudy amber-brown color with a large off-white head. Light lacing was left on the glass.

The smell had some dark fruits, Belgian yeast, roasted malts, a little floral, and some black pepper. Alcohol wasn't noticed. Nice blend of the two beers.

The flavor went from dark fruits to caramel to floral hops to a spicy, peppery finish. Yeast was mixed throughout. Alcohol was only slightly noticeable in the taste.

Medium bodied, smooth brew with a long lasting aftertaste. The abv was felt more than smelled or tasted. For me personally, one bomber would be plenty of this one, as it got a bit heavy towards the end.

Imstillthegman, Apr 09, 2007
Photo of UnionMade
4.1/5  rDev +4.9%

Hazed medium brown. Thick, creamy white head. Good retention. Aroma is immediately a little funky, like a wet dog, with sweet caramel and sugary, fruity belgian abbey-ness beneath. The flavor starts and continues to be very sweet. The Avery beer definitely takes precedence in this blend. Sugary caramel with a bit of chocolate. Light funkiness, almost buried beneath the sugar, adding a mild sourness to the finish. Full, rich body. Creamy, with effervencent carbonation. Fruity in a peachy apple sort of way. Mellow spiciness in the finish, with a bit of floral hoppage. Some plasticine phenols. finishes sugary and sweet. Easily drinkable. Comes across as a strong abbey beer spiked with a bit of flanders red craziness. Would this monk be celibate? I think not.
I'd guess that a little more conditioning time would allow the Russian River beer to shine through a little more. I'd like the funky flavors to come through more. I'll have to sit on my other bottle to find out.

UnionMade, Apr 09, 2007
Photo of drseamus
4.2/5  rDev +7.4%

I was pretty excited to try this beer because it's awesome that craft brewers are joining up to make beers like this. I'd love to see more of this type of collaboration happen.

A: This beer looks weird, but that is probably because it's a blend. It is a very dark amber color and is pretty cloudy. The edges are a bit lighter where the light comes through.

S: The aroma is sweet and malty with a cidery note, but there are a bunch of hops in there also. I get a bit of citrus in there and I think some belgian esters also.

T: The taste is amazingly clean. There are no lingering off-flavors at all. There is a good malt flavor and some raisin with very crisp lemony citrusy hop flavors at the end. There are also some good belgian esters in there that give it a good flavor.

M: The mouthfeel starts off fairly light but has good body on the way down. It ends up with a good light-medium body.

D: I can't really detect the alcohol in here by taste, but by the end of my glass I could start to feel it. This is a great beer and the drinkability is very good, but a bit high on the alcohol to consume a bunch of. I would start off a night with this beer though.

drseamus, Apr 09, 2007
Photo of jkaufman
4.13/5  rDev +5.6%

From Saturday, March 31 session notes:

Poured a 22oz. bottle into a tankard.

A: Pours cloudy dark orange/brown with a thin white head. Good lacing.

S: Citrus and cascade hops. Smells interesting.

T and M: A crackery malt flavor dominates initially, but this ale finishes with a pleasant hop bite. Goes down smooth and finishes a little syrupy. A well-balanced body keeps the nearly 9% ABV hidden.

D: Somewhat drinkable.

jkaufman, Apr 07, 2007
Photo of jjayjaye
4.43/5  rDev +13.3%

Pours a darker amber color (when you look through it from the side it's just about the same color as the bottle) with a full finger whispy light tan head that fades quickly. Some lacing observed.

The smell is primarily Belgian yeast, fruity, spicy and some of the alcohol. Quite nice actually.

The mouth feel is full bodied, nicely carbonated, smooth and creamy with a clean finish.

The flavor is malty sweet dark fruit. The creamy mouth complements it quite well.

Very drinkable. Note to self...ought to be sitting down for this one. The 8.999 AVB is pleasantly hidden, a tad of warmth in the crest along with a not so subtle surprise if you're not sip'in this one (that's got to be a miss print). Russian River and Avery; you've gotta love it when we all get along!! Cheers!!

jjayjaye, Apr 06, 2007
Photo of russpowell
4.03/5  rDev +3.1%

Pours amber/brown with 2 fingers of fluffy eggshell colored head. Above average lacing & a nice persistent ring chases the ale down the glass

S: Fruitty, leather notes, boozey, & horse blanket & all of this fades away & then comes back as this warms, weird

T: Fruiity with bitter choclate up front with some boozeyness lurking at the tip of the tounge. Leather & apricot follow as this warms. Tanins & oaky dryness show up too, along with jammyness, some black currant, cherries, &a hint of aged hops. Finishes with a faint hint of coccoa, breadyness, raisins, more oaky notes & warming/almost burning alcohol, just a wisp or 2 away from perfection

MF: Medium bodied, virtualy no carbonation felt, but still a ;ittle prickly from the alcohol burn

This is a sipper, but I think will only get more drinkable as it mellows. This this is one to lay down for a year or two, if you have the paitience!

russpowell, Apr 06, 2007
Photo of WesWes
4.1/5  rDev +4.9%

The beer pours a ruby red color with a thick frothy offwhite head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is great. It has a wondeful malt scent along with loads of fruity yeast esters. The taste is good. It has a smooth and creamy malt flavor that goes down easy and warms on the finish. It's fruity with Belgian yeast and a bit dry in the finish. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with a adequate/good carbonation. This is an interesting beer. It's got some excellent malt complexities along with a wondeful fruity finish; a good drinker.

WesWes, Apr 04, 2007
Photo of sulldaddy
4.38/5  rDev +12%

Drinking a cellar temp bottle poured into a snifter. The beer is a clear mahogany with several yeast chunks floating throughout. A minimal edge layer of bleached white head is all that forms. Aroma is fairly fruity with berries and pears mixing with floral hops and some caramel. Average body with a sticky syrupy texture and very fine gentle carbonation. Flavor is very complex with sour cherry, red grapes and general fruitiness rolling to a lingering black pepper spiciness on the finish. No hops on the taste and I dont think the black pepper is from ABV but is a yeast by product. Quite a tasty beer, glad to have tried a bottle.

sulldaddy, Apr 03, 2007
Photo of Metalmonk
3.93/5  rDev +0.5%

Thanks msubulldog25 for sending this--I know he and GuldenGurl would approve of decanting into a Gulden Draak glass, so here we go...

Bottled Jan. 2007. Poured a very large head made of super-tiny bubbles. Color is a gorgeous dark fudgy caramel brown. Lots of lace document each sip.

Aroma throws off more hops than expected, and also something candylike and sweet, pretty sugar-y. Malts are light and toasty. A Belgian yeast-type aroma wafts through the background.

From the first seconds of the first sip, it's obvious there's complexity here. Lots to chew through, lots to contemplate. Luckily it's not a mess. There's caramel, chocolate, subtle fruit sweetness, even a nuttiness that suggests peanut butter, with hops holding their own but behaving. I'm missing the intense dark fruits and prominent wild yeast aspects of authentically Belgian dark ales. They're here, but seem to be taking a back seat. That sticky peanut buttery sweetness sticks around longest, a really unusual and enjoyable element to this beer's character.

This is a cool concept and a one-of-a-kind beer, offering its own take on the style, not straying too far either. I haven't had Russian River's Salvation, and thought the Avery version was good but not mindblowing. Think the Czech and US Budweisers would make as interesting a mixture? Nah, didn't think so.

Metalmonk, Apr 03, 2007
Photo of oberon
3.65/5  rDev -6.6%

Bottled in Jan 07,poured into a fish bowl glass murky tea-like color with chinks and floaties swirling about a thinner head than expected leaving only a tace amount of spotted lace as it settled rather quickly.Mild phenolic aromas hit upfront along with some sweeter bread dough and a hint of wood nothing jumps out all are a bit tame but noticable.Phenolic and spicey with an underlying woddy graininess the fruit is a bit subdued pretty dry on the palate in my mind.Although not a huge fan of the style I was craving it and this although pretty good didnt really give me my fix I was looking for.

oberon, Apr 02, 2007
Photo of mjc410
4/5  rDev +2.3%

Poured into a tulip glass at Pizzeria Paradiso in Georgetown, Washington, DC. The beer formed a light tan glass ring, with very little cling in its lacing. The body was a translucent honey-amber with red highlights. The nose was lightly fruity, yeasty, and malty, but not pungeant enough for my preferences. However, the true power of the beer was expressed far more so in the taste, which was rich with dark fruitiness, berries, cherries, a touch of an herbal character, some chocolate, and pepper. It hid the alcohol magnificently. The mouth was medium, with very tiny but many bubbles, which led to great carbonation. I would have liked the body to be a tad thicker, though. Overall, a well-balanced brew that I'd be happy to drink often.

mjc410, Apr 02, 2007
Photo of JohnnyDuvel
4.38/5  rDev +12%

This beer is a treat. I really like Salvation, and this is quite similar. It's an interesting concept. Has a cloudy appearance, thick with floaties. Sweet and fruity, great drinkability. ABV not noticed in taste. Really defies category, as Avery Salvation is a golden ale. This is not as dark as other Belgian dark ales either. Also, not quite a dubbel. If you find it, give it a shot. Unique, high quality brew.

JohnnyDuvel, Mar 30, 2007
Photo of guitarmage
4.28/5  rDev +9.5%

Appearance: Very cloudy brick red, big off white billowy head, foamy and inviting.

Smell: Sweet malt and fruity esters are big, a tartness is present as well, phenolic, very nice, complexed and balanced aroma.

Taste: Ripe fruit on the tip of the tongue, a little phenolic in the nose, then the beer disappears really quickly, leaving not much of anything. A little bit of alcohol in the finish and a peppery hit of hops.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a fairly intense rolling carbonation, making a really crisp beer, especially for the style.

Drinkability: Very unique ale, the aroma is intense, the flavor is quick. All in all, tasty, even pretty hoppy, less malty than other Belgian SDAs.

guitarmage, Mar 29, 2007
Photo of RidiculedDisplay
3.15/5  rDev -19.4%

Appearance: Pours with a quarter-finger wood grain colored head that quickly dissipates into, well, not a whole lot. Lacing is there, but intermittent and not too impressive. Body is a rather one-trick-pony shade of deep brown, which I've seen before in other BSDA's, but most have a bit more effervescence than this.

Smell: Corky woodiness with some doughy bread qualities. Apples, cinnamon, raisins, hints of peach, some plum, a little too toned down to some degree. The esters I would have liked to have been more assertive. Perhaps a few years on this would do it good in that sense. An alcohol-ey, stinging musk is in the back end that isn't particularly pleasant.

Taste: Apple, cinnamon, still that corky woodiness. The plum esters are more playful here and a bit more assertive. Some banana I didn't notice in the nose. There remains a bitter, alcohol-y sting to this brew, however, which is particularly unpleasant on the swallow. Almost like cough medicine on the tongue. Ech. Sorry, only the esters really save this one.

Mouthfeel: Adequately carbonated. Astringent upon swallowing.

Drinkability: The bitterness/cough medicine-like quality to this brew keeps it from being very enjoyable, or drinkable.

RidiculedDisplay, Mar 28, 2007
Photo of Risser09
2.8/5  rDev -28.4%

Sampled As Part Of Phatz's Sour Beer Tasting - Review Is From Notes

Appearance: Brown with a tinge of gold. Head is white and has moderate retention. Very little lace remains. There seems to be plenty of carbonation.

Smell: Initially it smells like old beer-well, it is sour after all. Earthy aromas include peat, wood and malt.

Taste: The taste is woody and full of malt. This reminds me of a high-end malt liquor. I can taste the brettamyces? bacteria. Not souring to me, but could be for others. I think the earthy flavors have a strangle hold on this one.

Mouthfeel: Bubbly and funky. Smoothe with sort of an annoying aftertaste. Again, feels like malt liquor.

Drinkability: This is a decent beer that I probably won't revisit unless it's the best thing available. For $10 a bottle, I could do much better.

Risser09, Mar 27, 2007
Photo of wedge
3.95/5  rDev +1%

Pours like opaque maple syrup under a modest, soft head of loose foam. Little flakes of yeast are suspended in the brew. Aromas of fruity Belgian yeast; syrupy apple, pear, and mellow clove. Full flavored - spiced dry fruit esters. More pomaceous fruits and clove along with a honey-sweet black cherry and yeast. Medium bodied, dry and a little tart, finishing quite peppery and warm.

'Tis a tasty collaboration. (Review 400)

wedge, Mar 26, 2007
Photo of tastybeer
4.33/5  rDev +10.7%

Mmmm very nice. Looks good. Fluffy white, dense and fine bubbled head frosts my mahogany, ruby red beer pleasantly and leaves big sheets of tight lace around the glass. Smells smooth and deep. Fruity yeast and creamy bread malts covered in a variety of fruits. Apples, cantelope, pears, peaches, mellow spice, and flowers fill the nose. Taste is complimentary. This is certainly a well blended concoction. Body is a light creamy feeling medium somehow, with tingly effervescent carbonation. Smooth and soft texture and very easily drinkable. I didn't expect it but this is good in warm weather. Kind of spring-like in character. Well I'm glad I picked this one up before it was all gone.

A good choice and a delight to drink.

tastybeer, Mar 25, 2007
Photo of ppoitras
4.18/5  rDev +6.9%

22oz bottle purchased as a single from Julio's, Marlboro, MA. Jan07 bottling.

Poured into a heavy glass chalice, formed a 1/2" beige head over the cloudy reddish amber brew. Head holds strong, with heavy, non-falling lace. Aroma is yeasty spicy dark fruity. Taste starts with spicy maltiness, segues into a dark fruit presence, and closes with some earthy hoppiness and an encompassing warmth. Mouthfeel is creamy smooth, and drinkability is excellent for the style. A great collaborative process has yeilded a great beer.

ppoitras, Mar 25, 2007
Photo of MuddyFeet
3.73/5  rDev -4.6%

Enjoyed on-tap at Sunset Grill in Boston. Reviewed from notes.

Poured a muddy brown color. Very "clean" looking head that completely dissolved rather quickly Very flat in appearance. Nose was wheat malts and citrus.

Flavor was heavy on wholesomeness. Surprisingly wheaty. Yeast very pungent and seemed to coat the cheeks. A tad sour as well. Picked out some light fruits as well. Mouthfeel was a tad short of full and perhaps a bit syrupy. Served a bit too cold and I hate to let it warm up to really notice the flavors.

MuddyFeet, Mar 25, 2007
Photo of kmo1030
4.03/5  rDev +3.1%

dark brown with faint red orange highlights.
belgian yeast aroma, with grainy roasted malt, and a variety of fruits including pinapple, fig, raisin and faint banana. bubblegum and clove show up in varying amounts too.
malty flavor with the ever present belgian yeast qualities. the taste is a carbon copy of the nose, with all the fruits, bubblegum and cloves there. it's peppery and spicy at all points on the tongue, but the alcohol is masked very well for 9% abv.
medium bodied, with a delicate but active carbonation that is somewhat accentuated by the spicy quality of the flavor.
good drinkability especially when the abv is considered, though not a session beer by any stretch of the imagination. a real nice rendition of the belgian strong dark.

kmo1030, Mar 25, 2007
Photo of peabody
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

This is a nice reddish amber ale with one finger of off-white suds and good lacing.
I smell raspberry and caramel and lemon peel and definatly some pine. Lots of pine here. Hops? damn, christmas morning tree pine.
A piney bitter taste followed by the sweet caramel and fruitiness.
Alcohol is present here but not overwhelming. Raisin and plum. Sugar galore with very little hop bitterness.
This is not a bad beer at all. I like the carbonation quality and the sugar/alcohol content as it is blended very well.
With a high %abv I wouldn't consider this a great session beer but it is still a very nice mixture of two great breweries/Russian River and Avery.

peabody, Mar 25, 2007
Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 1,320 ratings.