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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale - Avery Brewing Company

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88
very good

1,379 Ratings
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Ratings: 1,379
Reviews: 702
rAvg: 3.9
pDev: 10.77%
Wants: 34
Gots: 146 | FT: 9
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Avery Brewing Company visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  8.72% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007)
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Photo of smurphy77
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not a bad combination. I'm a big fan of the russian river salvation, but haven't sampled the avery version. This beer was a caramel color with about a two-finger head. There was a sweetness to this beer, reminiscent of toffee or burnt sugar. Not a lot of complexity or development of the flavors. Despite the nice head I found this beer to be a little flat. I'll have to try the avery salvation before I make any final conclusions, but I think I'm more of a fan of the rr salvation unmixed. This isn't a bad beer, but the bar was set pretty high for this one by it's components.

Photo of bosco7
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Obtained this 22 oz. bottle in Eugene, OR at the Market of Choice.

I am very familar with Russian River's Salvation and have had Avery's once.

Poured into a chalice; forms a large cream like head that leaves a blanket of lacing. The beers is a translucent reddish-brown.

Fruity aromas instantly apparent. Prune, fig, toffee, some chocolate, and earthy yeast aromas present.

Sweet upfront with lots of fig, dark caramel, and black pepper flavors. This lingers into prune, sweet cherry, coriander, earth, milk chocolate and banana. Has a crisp light bitterness in the finish.

Tastes much sweeter and less attenuated than RR's Salvation. Also what makes RR's version so enjoyable is the astronomical level of delicate complexities provided by their yeast strains; this quality is kind of diminished by the sweetness of Avery's. That being said RR's beer is much more noticable in the finish product. Very good beer but I'll stick with RR's Salvation.

Photo of oakbluff
4.13/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my RR tulip glass. Cloudy prune brown, huge off white head. Smell is sweet belgian candi sugar and dark fruit. Taste- initially quite sweet, but finishes dry due to the sugar. Lots of dark fruit, spice and complex malt. Hops are more noticable than in the average belgian dark and are a welcome presence. Mouthfeel is smooth with medium carbonation. A great brew. I have not tried either of these individually, but have a bottle of RR Salvation in my cellar ready to compare on a special occasion.

Photo of trevorwideman
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bomber sent to me by demcorhip, thanks so much! Poured into a chalice.

Pours a murky brown colour with lots of sediment, some coppery highlights when held to the light. 1 inch tan head subsides quickly, lacy. Mild carbonation. Aroma is sweet, spicy and fruity, like some delicious baking. Banana aromas, clove, caramel, butter and brown sugar. Nice and mild and mellow. I like it.

Taste is mild as well, with lots of nice warming alcohol off the top. There's some mild citrus-peel notes that lend a refreshing bittering sourness to offset the malt monster that this is. Caramel appears again, along with that mild banana flavour. Big bready flavours, yeast, it all points to a delcious piece of cake in your mouth. Belgian sugars and a peppery spiciness back all that up. Not too heavy in the mouth, which is nice and makes the brew slide down nicely, as does the not-overbearing carbonation. Dry and spicy in the finish. This is a respectable American take on a Belgian Strong, but it just falls short of great for me. That said, it's extremely drinkable for such a potent brew.

Photo of frazbri
2.08/5  rDev -46.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Collaboration Not Litigation poured brown and cloudy topped by a creamy, off-white head and good lacing left on the goblet. Aromas of orchard fruit, banana, orange peel, a hint of grapefruit and pine. Flavor started bright with banana, cloves and pine with a bitter finish. Body was medium-full with relatively high carbonation and a dry finish.

A great team is greater than the sum of it's individual players. This is more like the 2006 Yankees. Hall of Fame players, disappointing result. The beauty of RR's finesse is obliterated by Avery's power.

Photo of Wasatch
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to msubulldog25 for this brew.

Poured into a chalice a slightly cloudy light amberish color, nice carbonation, small off-white head, very little sticky lacing around the edges. The nose is malty, citrusy, figs, raisins, plums, and some caramel. The taste is malty, tangy, citrusy, slightly sweet, spicy, nice touch of caramel. The finish is slightly dry. Medium body. Very drinkable, a nice little together brew, recommended.

Photo of prototypic
3.78/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: It's a very cloudy, dark red in color (nearly brown). It's got a nice and a half finger foamy head sitting atop. Retention and lacing were good.

Smell: It's got a nice toffee malt smell. It also features some dark fruit aromas. Mostly raisins in that department. Light citrus notes are present (mostly grapefruit). Nice, strong hop presence as well.

Taste: Very interesting and complex. Initially it has a sweet taste from the citrus and dark fruit combo. Dark fruits predominate here. Certainly has a bit of an herbal spice kick. Hops are dry and definitely provide a bitter taste.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: It's medium bodied and a bit chewy. It's pretty drinkable though. I'm sipping it just to see how much the flavor comes alive as it warms, but it's definitely not hard to drink. Overall, it's good and intriguing. Certainly recommended.

Photo of DrJay
3.9/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nearly clear, deep amber colour with a short, fine head that produced solid sheets of lacing. Nifty aroma - citrusy, yeasty, spicy, and fruity. Solid bitterness with citrusy undertones and a moderate sugary fruit sweetness. Chewy malts throughout with a spicy alcohol finish. Full bodied, delicate carbonation, creamy with some pleasant warmth. This stuff hides its alcohol well. Nicely balanced and easy drinking.

Photo of merlin48
3.53/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Body is a hazed orange/brown hue with a large offwhite head that hangs around for several minutes. Generous amounts of sheet lacing drape the goblet. Inviting aroma of dark fruits, musty yeast, bubblegum, guava, prunes and a hint of licorice. Mouthfeel has medium carbonation and body and some alcohol burn. Taste has lots of dark fruits, mostly figs and prunes. Bitter citrusy hops and yeast are also noted. Somewhat phenolic and abrasive with some harsh alcohol tones. An interesting concept here but I was hoping for a better result.

Photo of Enola
4.15/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer is a nice reddish brown with a lasting head. The smell is smokiness and alcohol. The taste is caramel, smoked salmon and there is a nice alcohol finish. The alcohol lingers in the aftertaste and burns a little in the finish. The beer is a sipper that gets better as it warms. A very good beer that should age well.

Photo of taez555
3.33/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer poured an opaque brown body with a thick off-white head.

Nose is classic dark Belgian; soft chocolate, phenols, dark fruits, plums, prunes, dark raisins, dark cherries, charcoal, very mild spice, yeast and crystalized sugar. Really a breathtaking nose combining and punctuating all the great aspects of Belgian dark ales.

Taste is medium to full bodied. Dark malts, some slightly burnt and toasted flavors, cocoa, dark chocolate, yeast, phenols, dark fruits, spices and a very strong punch in the back end of this earthy muted dry hop and burnt grain sort of taste. Big bitterness and extremely dry and tannic with a very strong warming alcohol. Ends with a long lingering tannic coffee flavor and tons of lingering warmth.

What an interesting concept. Russian River and Avery making a hybrid of their beers called Salvation. It smells amazing, but the taste and balance are completely out of whack. Not to say it's bad at all, but it might do well with some serious aging.

Photo of wcudwight
3.3/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Enola for sharing.
Pours a murky, hazy, amber color. 1/4" khaki head that leaves a ring of lace around the top of the glass.
Lot's of Belgian yeast in the aroma with a kind of woody smell.
It's not bad tasting, but really not that exciting either. Well balanced. Not too sweet or bitter. Nice peppery finish that leaves a malt heavy aftertaste.
Mouthfeel is crisp, full, and filling.
This is certainly a slow sipper. I'm glad I've had the opportunity to try it, but I don't think I'll seek it out again.

Photo of ChazMania
3.05/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bomber, bottled Jan 2007. I have been chilling this for a few months, waiting for a good moment to savor. It pours lighter than I expected. The head is a good one finger and lingers with lacing. The aroma is faint, not very strong at all. The first flavor for me was faint banana. Some slight spice and fig flavor but it's not very pronounced. Although it is a good beer, i would not call it exceptional or unique to my palate.

Photo of lackenhauser
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a somewhat hazy, orange to brown color. Slightly phenolic aroma-quite yeasty and bread like. Very phenolic tasting. Bordering on astringent and solvent like. Slight spiciness to it. Again with the yeast characteristics. Medium body. Overall I cant find much here to get excited about. While a notch above average it doesnt overwhelm me in any way shape or form. I have had much better from Avery. Try it yourself and form your own opinion.

Photo of BigJTrucker
4.55/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a slightly hazy golden dark brown color. Thick foamy slightly off white head settles slowly. Nice aroma of fresh bread is very pronounced, along with some brown sugar like sweet smell. Tastes amazing with a very good balance. At first, the hops seem like they want to overpower the flavor, but the added sugar along with the barley and wheat help to balance it out nicely. Mouthfeel is nice and full bodied, a little thick, not overly carbonated. A Very nice and drinkable ale. I'd love to try the two respective beers that go into it, and see how each contributes to the flavor. It's amazing. I could drink this every day.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Demcorhip: Poured a cloudy deep copper color ale with a nice foamy head with good retention. Aroma of sweet malt and medium funky yeast is pretty interesting. Taste of sweet malt is mix with some subtle sour notes and some light funky yeast. Body is quite full with some adequate carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Overall, this seems like a good concept but I still think I would prefer having my own bottle of RR salvation instead of this.

Photo of Mitchster
4.38/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

$6.99 for a 22oz bomber. Bottled Jan 2007. OG=1.079. 8.99% ABV. Brewed with barley and wheat malts, belgian candy sugar, turbinado sugar, hops, and two bealgian yeast strains.

Pours out quite a bit darker than expected. I haven't had Vinnie's Salvation, but I recall Adams Salvation as blonde in color. This is a near milky dark amber, forming a modest light tan head with average retention and adequate lacing. Carbonation is moderate. Mouthfeel is powdery and medium-dense bodied. The aroma is as expected for a tripel...cloves, bananas, bubble-gum, lots of phenols and esters...mango, raw apple cider. The taste begins with fruit and phenols but in the middle, a toasty roasted barley note comes into play, followed by a pleasantly strong bitterness. Hrmmm....not quite a tripel, not quite a BSDA. Macerated grape skins followed by a touch of tobacco and than cool floral hop bitterness hangs on the palate. Cleanly fermented, no off-flavors or aromas. Alcohol is perceptable in warmth, but not so in taste.

This is a really good brew but lacks that certain oomph that just makes me want to drink it all night. It reminds me of Matilda mixed 60:40 with Pere Jacques. The roasted malt and bitterness add to it's complexity but also limits it's drinkability. Kudos to Adam and Vinnie for the collaborative effort. More brewing companies should act the way these guys do.

Photo of HoustonTX
3.93/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Salvation meets...well...Salvation.

Copper brown body with a solid halo of fluffy white lacing.

Huge and brilliant aroma. Oily piney hops, caramel malt, dark fruit, and fragrant yeast characteristics. Smell is dead on for the style, and really sets the tone for the beer to come.

Taste is nearly as brilliant as the aroma. A bit more subdued, yet still highly complex. Huge earthy and caramel malt base support a mix of flavors flavors. Lots of dark fruit... purple grape skins, cherries, blueberries, raspberries, tart prunes, a touch of fig, raw leaf, and a sour brett edge. Yeast is evident and provides a dryness. Along with a balancing hoppiness. Overall flavor is tart with a hint of sourness. Mouthfeel is beautiful and tingly on the palate, and helps ease the beer down smoothly.

A collaboration well worth the time. A nicely put together beer, that offers a lot of complexity. Recommended.

Photo of dirtylou
4.33/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber, had been wanting to try this so i was glad when i spotted some at brennans on watts road while cheese shopping.

appearance: pours into a la chouffe glass...bright ruby body, fluffy tan head that is prominent all the way through...nice inviting brew

smell: aroma features more of the russian river traits than avery, strong clean yeast presence, black cherry, blackberries, light clove, light cinnamon...nice complex nose

taste: The more I drink of this, the more i like it....Having had both the Avery and Russian River, i tend to agree that this is a case of the avery compliment the RR. This is beautifully spiced yeast creation, lots of great dark fruit highlighted by sweet cherry and berry. I like this a lot

mouthfeel: very smooth, noticeably well spiced, yeasty

drinkability: nice

Photo of gunnerman
3.93/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

For my 100th review I thought how awesome it would be to review a fine collaboration of two awesome breweries into one amazing looking ale. Poured into a stone russian imperial stout snifter, pours an amazing copper redish brown with a fluffy 2 finger head that leaves some serious lace on the glass. Smell is of fresh malt and bread also a bit of figs and dates in the nose and just a hit of hoppy finish as well. Taste is a bit of malt of upfront with some fresh grapes and also a bit of earth, a little bit of bitterness and a bit of a alcohol burn. This is a extremly good offering and such a great idea of mixing the 2 together, awesome job and hopefully will follow with other great collaborations.

Photo of John_M
3.95/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap at Mahaffey's the other night.

This beer pours an interesting brownish orange color, with decent head retention and adequate (if not especially impressive) lacing. On the nose this is reminiscent of a Belgium brown ale, with sweet malt and spice. On the palate, this is quite an interesting beer. It's start off fairly sweet, but on the midpalate there is a sour component. The beer tastes as if the brewer added some sort of lambic or gueuze, which definitely adds to the complexity. The beer is not particulary heavy or mouth filling, and the flavors are a bit light.

An interesting beer, and a good one, though not one I'm likely to order too often in the future. There are more interesting Belgium and Belgium wannabees out there.

Photo of biking4beer
3.93/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle poured into a goblet.

I had to pour this one pretty aggressively to get a decent head. After a while, it dissipates to a whisp. The beer is a deep brown with a hint of ruby.

Smells of banana, candy sugar, Belgian yeast, raisins, and spice.

This one has a lot going on in the taste department. Caramel, grains, Belgian yeast, slight alcohol, peppery spice, and a touch of clove. It's really hard to discern the different tastes because this is one tart beer.

This is an incredibly creamy beer. Smooth. The mouthfeel is definitely the highlight of this beer.

If this one wasn't so funky tart, it would be much better, but that keeps the drinkability fairly low. The last few sips were a little tough to polish off, but it's definitely worth a go if you can get your hands on a bottle. Or I guess you could just blend them yourself with a heavier hand on Avery's Salvation.

Photo of Lnedrive14
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I don't know that I loved it, but props for ingenuity.

A: Looked like a mix of two beers - bottom was brutal gold, top was copper/orange/amber/hazy. It was like a belgian gold on the bottom of a scaldis or something like that. Big head, decent retention.

T/S: Lots of flavors - they just didn't mix well! It has an earthiness to it. Lots of fruity esthers and sweetness on the bottom, molasses and roasted malts on the top. strong alcohol sense throughout.

I don't know - something about it just didn't work for me. it didn't have the standardness throughout - each taste was something new, and whenever it worked, it wouldn't work in the next sense.

Photo of Abita45
3.78/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass with a thin head that quickly dissolved. Color is an opaque bourbon with a relatively non-descript aroma of fruit and clove. The taste is, as it should be, the best part of this beer. Smooth and malty with a slightly sugary, molasses taste that is cut by clove and fruit tones. The alcohol is pronounced, but not overpowering. While overall, I don't think this is a top notch Belgian style, but it is pretty good and the backstory is great.

Photo of ski271
4.47/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

On-tap at Zeno’s in State College. Dark, cloudy amberish-brown with a medium-sized, creamy, off-white head that slowly diminishes to a tenacious film. Smell is fairly busy with prune, alcohol, clove, earth, cherry, and a little raisin. The Taste follows suit with it’s flavors. Wonderful, long, sweet finish of prunes and cherries with a nice bit of alcohol warmth. It has a medium body and lightly syrupy texture. Just a little bit cloying, but still I found this to be a fantastic beer. Definitely worth a try.

Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 1,379 ratings.