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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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427 Ratings
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Ratings: 427
Reviews: 117
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 12.73%
Wants: 35
Gots: 48 | FT: 2
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Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of brewandbbq
4.16/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from 2013.

Pours cola brown with a tan head of an inch-plus. A partial skim coat for the duration of the glass with some traces of lacing.

Aromatics are filled with clove-dusted cocoa, caramel-coated apples, and a hint of booziness.

Medium bodied with a creamy mouthfeel.

Plenty of Belgiany phenols with chocolate and rum-soaked raisins on the palate.

Finishes slightly sweet with a lingering boozy note.

Drinks like an Imperial Dubble, tasty.

Photo of SLeffler27
3.77/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Murky, reddish brown (SRM 25). A beige, half-inch layer of fine foam settles to a thin blanket, leaving patchy lace behind. Light viscosity and tiny streaming carbonation is visible within the Rochefort chalice.

Quite sweet with candy sugar, sugar plums, light molasses, and possibly honey and clove.

The flavor is every bit as sweet as the nose had suggested. Plums and fresh pumpernickel give way to fruit juice with a sweet malty middle and a sweet finish.

Syrupy texture with a medium to full body punctuated by ample, fine carbonation. The alcohol is controlled, while residual sugar coats the palate and lips.

While more sweet than my impression of this style would anticipate, Gregorius is enjoyable. Lacking layers and complexity expected of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale, this could be considered an entry level, after-work, relaxing beer.

Photo of Dentist666
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into trappist.
Pours cloudy dark brown beer with 0.5-finger off-white head. Smell of dark fruits, apple and honey. Taste of dark fruits, candy sugar, raisin, warming alcohol. Medium-bodied, good brew.

Photo of stakem
3.13/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.75

500ml bottle poured into a goblet. Despite a careful pour, some yeast chunks make their way into the glass. The brew is a dark brown, quite clouded with a finger of creamy khaki head that holds well with spotty lacing.

Aroma of raisons and apple. Some dark maltiness provides a sweet sugary feel to the nose like dates, toffee and brown sugar. Slight tangy alcohol feeling.

The taste has an upfront character like cider. Lots of apple-like flavors blending with raison and brown sugar. Some neutral alcohol feel to this and a slight tang. The malt presents itself with a mild toasted feel to it.

This is medium bodied and moderately carbonated. Overall not a bad brew but I wasnt the biggest fan of the strong cider flavors which comprised most of this beers profile.

Photo of BethanyB
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Look: Dare I say a bit swampish? It's a medium, murky brown, with spotty tan fizz for a head. Not the most attractive of beers, but the low head retention is somewhat acceptable due to the high alcohol content, and the cloudiness is not atypical for the style.

Smell: Dark fruit scents are both sweet and sharp. Blackberries and fermented grapes give off a Petit Syrah character. Meanwhile, cocoa, figs, and plums add a musky softness. More malt complexity could bring some needed balance and roundness to this fruit-forward bouquet.

Taste: The juicy layers of dark fruit are given bit of a kick by a tangy, marmalade taste, and additional balance is brought on by some honey sweetness. Malt characteristics remain lacking, although the light cocoa on the nose is still present in the taste. Light bitterness settles in straight away. It is a strong and interesting concoction, but in terms of complexity, it is outdone by plenty other examples of the style.

Mouthfeel: The intense dryness is immediately apparent, adding a sort of vaporous sensation to the beginning of each sip. While quite syrupy, some weight is removed by a high level of carbonation. A tingling on the tongue builds until the taste is affected--it's as if one's taste buds have been obliterated by pop rocks.

Overall: A somewhat fascinating specimen, and yet, the flavor and aroma beg for a bit more complexity. The harsh mouthfeel is interesting, but perhaps not I the best of ways, as it begins to distract and detract from the flavor.

Photo of carolinabrew
4.3/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Very murky, dark brown color. Little foam head. Scorched malt flavor on front and back. Sweet, nutty flavor. Crisp finish. For how high the ABV is you don't detect heavy alcohol.

Photo of mothmanscott
4.18/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a murky, prune juice reddish-brown producing less than a single finger of tightly bubbled, tan, shortlived head that leaves minimal lace. Aroma is malty burnt brown sugar, molasses, dark fruits, anise, spice, earthy hops, some wood & musty hay/hints of dark honey, Belgian funk & light alcohol. Taste is dark malts, sugary dark bread, anise, fig, prune, raisins, soured fruit, brown sugar, smoke, earth, alcohol & faint honey with lots of lively pepper & spice especially from mid-sip through the lightly bitter & warm finish. Aftertaste is malty, earthy woody & sweet with an alcohol prominence that fades to a faint bitter astringency. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with lively carbonation, spicy/prickly & crisp & somewhat dry late in the sip.

Photo of flagmantho
3.94/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 330mL bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: medium-dark brown hue with plenty of murk and two fingers of frothy tan foam. The head has good retention and the color is great.

Smell: very sweet with a nice dark-fruit character of date, raisin and cherry. It's not hugely complex, but it's still pretty damn nice.

Taste: a little bit richer and deeper than the aroma, but along the same theme; dates, figs and tobacco are the primary flavors here. There's also a nice dustiness toward the end that I tend to enjoy in the style. A fine beer.

Mouthfeel: medium-rich body with a good carbonation and a very satisfying creaminess. Quite nice.

Overall: I like this beer quite a lot. It hits my favorite areas for the style quite nicely.

Photo of DeepJello
3.96/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Dated 02/2104.

A: Gusher. Bubbly. Pours a dark muddled brown, almost a dark ruby color. Half a fingers worth of white/brownish head. Some sediment.
S: Strong earthy tones/yeast. Light plums and cherries, dark fruit. Slight smell of sweet alcohol, lingering in the back end.
T: Very complex. Flavors of bread/yeast, mild dark fruits, plum, tobacco, light smoke. Alcohol is unnoticeable and well hidden.
M: Highly carbonated and alive. Dances on the tongue. Coats the mouth with bran flakes, plum, tobacco, and alcohol.
O: It's a very complex beer. Kind of driving my taste buds crazy right now, not in a bad way. Alcohol is well hidden throughout the beer. I like this beer more than most of the Americanized versions of a Belgian strong dark.

Photo of BIA_BrewMasta
4.78/5  rDev +24.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Truly fascinating to the palate. Nice sour and bitter finish balanced perfectly. The honey sets it off with great complex flavors as well.

Photo of IPA1978
3.73/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

very complex but too sweet for my taste. let it warm and it gets better.

Photo of Slatetank
4.09/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I purchased this at Brass Rail, enjoyed chilled in a tulip

The color is dark cocoa brown with 3 fingers of rocky sandstone head with lace that sticks to the glass. The smell is very interesting -lots of fruity esters with plum and vinous elements with slight black cherry aroma and dark sugar smell and woody accent with bready scent. The feel is strong with sweet entry and yeast texture with subtle spice and medium high carbonation with semi-dry finish and low alcohol influence.

The taste is somewhat date-like with sweet dark cherry-like flavor and earthy vinous and slightly toasted malt flavor with slight alcohol emerging as it warms with a tobacco-like earthy element with a burnt sugar flavor and dark caramel quality almost prune-like with a full sweet and dried fruit flavor. Overall this is a pretty excellent dark belgian ale with some nice yeast complexity and very drinkable in general for the 10% abv

Photo of Bitterbill
4.22/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I bought this as part of a gift pack that included Benno and the glass.

Bottled in February 2014.

It pours a hazy, no cloudy rusty brown with a huge head of foam that is great with the lacing.

The smell has quite a bit of bitterness to it yet there's a honey sweetness going on as well. Perhaps some molasses but more interestingly, I can smell some funky notes.

The honey is the first thing I notice in the taste; quite sweet on my palate. The bitterness I noted in the smell is very citrus like in the taste and the the curious funk smell...I get that too. A very complicated beer here, I reckon.

Full bodied, medium carbonation.

This is most definitely a "weird" brew and I reckon a very polarizing one. Put me in the camp that likes it.

Photo of bushbeer75
4.03/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

11.2 oz brown bottle - brewed 1/2013 noted on the label

Stift Engelszell Gregorius poured a very dark brown almost black hue that featured a nice 2-finger tan and bubbly head. The nose smells a dark caramel malt and dark fruit. The flavor is also dominated by sweet dark malts, dark bread with a little chocolate noted. There is a pleasant alcohol warming at the finish. The mouth feel is creamy with a bubbly carbonation and has a high-medium body.

Overall, this is a flavorful and enjoyable Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

Photo of KornWallace
4.18/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Date: 11/3/14
Location: DeCicco's Harrison
Draught/Bottle: Brown Bottle
Glassware: Snifter

Appearance: Dark brown to ruby copper in color. Pours with a one inch off what head that looks rather fluffy for a strong ale. The alcohol clearly beats the carbonation back down again. Flecks of yeast can be observed near the bottom of the glass
Aroma: Starts with a candied sweetness melding with honey. Dark malts follow providing a more mellow earthy malts and some own malt sweetness of their own.
Taste: So many flavors but again starting with a slight variant on the sweetness as the sugar moves closer to brown sugar flavored. Followed by intense dark fruits ranging from grapes to plums. The alcohol really pushes away the malt flavors and dominate the flavors.
Mouthfeel: Medium body but different layers present themselves making the beer feel heavier. High carbonation reminds you that this bottle conditioning has been going on and that this beer is very much alive. The beer provides a good deal of alcohol warmth.

Notes: My first non Belgian Trappist ale this is a fantastic addition to the class. The next I'd like to enjoy is from Spencer.

Photo of RonaldTheriot
4.88/5  rDev +26.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Gregorius has a vaport train out the bottle neck, a thin, cream-colored head, a dark brown appearance, minimal lacing, and an incredible amount of pretty large tan chunks which settle at the bottom, making this beer almost a semi-solid beverage. The aroma is intense, and the drinker will pick up a multiplicity of smells, including grape skin, wine, vinegar, Maraschino cherries, acid, duck sauce, yeast, brown bread, bread crust, honey, lo mien noodles, and spice. Taste is likewise complex, with flavors including all of the above, plus smoked pork, Warheads sweet & sour candies, pine oil, licorice, prunes, butter, and assorted spices. Mouthfeel is heavy and chewy, and Gregorius finishes wet and cloying and munch-able. Overall, this is an outstanding beer, at a minimum, and I recommend it, in the strongest possible terms.

RJT

Photo of Roguer
4.19/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful super dark brown and opaque beer. Light at the edges reveals floaties and a nut brown hue. Strong tan head with phenomenal retention and wide lacing.

Strong, dominant aroma: sweet dark fruit (figs and prunes), malts (toffee, caramel, and cocoa), a hint of spices (nutmeg), and nuts. Classic Quad/Dubbel aroma.

Flavor is sweet, fruity, and malty up front; prunes, plums, cherries, and raisins carry the day, riding the backs of dark, sweet fruitbread; hints of spices and cocoa, and impressions of walnuts and pecans. There is a curious, slightly overripe sourness that comes through on the back-end and lingers through the aftertaste.

Thick, cloying mouthfeel; slight alcohol heat on the sticky finish; minor puckering; lively with no sting. Very impressive mouthfeel and character for the ABV.

This is an excellent quad, on par with the best American versions I've had. That lasting overripe sourness, however, keeps it firmly from the territory of Rochefort et al. A wonderfully crafted and delicious beer.

Photo of beergoot
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer bottled 2013/06 per the bottle label.

Dark brown body topped with a rich, light tan head (3.75). Currants, figs, brown sugar and molasses, chewing tobacco aromas (4.25). Rich and sweet flavors mixed with a bitter and boozy; flavors mimicking much of the aroma (4.0). Medium-heavy body; big carbonation; syrupy (3.5).

Aside from a rather rough mouthfeel, this is a fine tasting, great smelling strong ale. Huge dark ale flavors of ripe, dark fruits with a nice, stinging twinge of alcohol and coarse bitterness.

Photo of patre_tim
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

A: Dark brown, cloudy with a barrage of fine bubbles rising within the middle of the chalice. Topped with 2 fingers of creamy beige, foamy head. Sticky gelatinous lacing as I swirl the glass.


S: Cherries, raisins, it’s a lot like a cherry coke. Dark fruits and cherries, light floral notes. Cherries and raisins sums up the scent.


T: Cherries, raisins, dark fruits, some dried figs, snow, light sweetness, and a light acidic quality. Alcohol is hidden, but shows on the throat and back of the tongue. It has this sort of leather, tannic acid quality that is somewhat sour, like fermented milk.


M: Thick body with very foamy carbonation. It reminds me of powdered rock candy or a self foaming tablet in the mouth. It seems to continue to foam on entry.


O: So thrilled to have found this at Bruisin Ales in Asheville. A year and a half earlier, a misinformed tour guide at a brewery told me that beer from this brewery was only likely to available in the next 5 years by going to Europe. Never saw it in Belgium. Thrilled to have seen it at least in two places in the US recently. Drinking this one in my Orval chalice in Kunming, China as my 1000th beer reviewed on Beeradvocate.

Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.15/5  rDev -18.2%

A 330ml bottle with a BB of June 2014, so it's a bit out of date. Acquired ages ago from Trembling Madness in York and stashed away. I'm hoping age will have improved it. The ingredient list mentions honey....

A: Poured into a Duvel tulip. Bottle conditioned - this contains a vast amount of slimy sediment that looks like snot (perhaps 10-15%). Rather unappetising to put it mildly, and not what I want to see in an expensive brew. A dark brown hue that appears virtually black in the glass. Holding it to the light reveals plenty of floating chunks that I take to be yeast. Yields a small head of beige foam that disappears rapidly. Quite disgusting.

S: Aroma of sweet, fruity malt with hints of prunes, raisins, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, marzipan, subtle yeast esters and a touch of stewed leaves. A warming whiff of booze in the background.

T: Tastes of sweet, fruity malt that borders on cloying, with a subtle bitter finish. Notes of prunes, dried fruit, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, faint marzipan, stewed leaves, harsh cardboard and fruity yeast esters. A touch of solventy alcohol in the background. Quite sweet, followed by a restrained, herbal bitterness upon swallowing.

M: Mouthfeel is smooth and tingly, with effervescent carbonation and good body. A slightly harsh quality on the palate. Somewhat astringent, accompanied by an aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt, stewed leaves and acrid cardboard.

O: Disappointing; particularly the gunk in the bottle. Unpleasant looks, while the aroma and flavour are rich and sweet with harsh undertones. Body is OK. It resembles a quad but hasn't aged as well as I might have wished. Fruity but plagued by off-notes and generally unsatisfying. Perhaps this is just a bad bottle - the potential is certainly there. I may re-review if I get the chance. That said - caveat emptor.

Photo of rangerred
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

330ml bottle into a goblet.

Pours a hazy very dark brown with a fluffy light tan head that doesn't stick around for a very long time. There is a lack of lacing as well.

Aroma is almost like cherry juice. Smells strongly of dark fruit with some caramel and molasses. Not bad but seems a bit sweet.

The flavor hits very hard with the cherry and plum. It is very fruity with the sweetness to go along with it unfortunately. Caramel and honey comes in later with a quick shot of wood and alcohol. Sweetness lingers through the finish with alcoholic warmth.

Overall, this beer is just not that refined and complex. It is actually somewhat disappointing for a Trappist beer. Nothing to go out of your way for.

Photo of deg
4.49/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I poured the beer into a chalice. Unfortunately I lost a little beer because the beer foamed as soon as I opened the bottle. I suspect there's a little too much yeast in the bottle. The beer was a good dark color. The head never completely dissappated. I smelled fruit, like figs and raisins. The taste was rich with malt and fruit. The beer had a creamy consistency.

Photo of Flounder57
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle was poured into a chalice.

Appearance: A one finger off white head was poured that reduced to a thin layer. It is a dark amber brown color with no vision of anything.

Smell: Plums, raisins, figs, spicy yeast, warm booze, cherry, and tobacco.

Taste: Lots of dark fruit goodness, spicy yeast, clove, honey, deceiving booze for 9.7%, and a little bitterness in the end too.

Mouthfeel: Silky smooth, sweet, little dry, medium to full bodied, low to medium carbonation, and warm booze.

Overall: Very enjoyable beer to start my birthday. Might have to go fact and get another bottle.

Photo of Franziskaner
3.27/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark brown to nearly black in color. An inch of light beige head rests on top. I smell dark malt and honey. I taste earthy dark malt and honey but it just seems a bit too simplistic. The mouth is fairly carbonated and tastes of alcohol. There's a moderate dark malt aftertaste.

Photo of allengarvin
4.35/5  rDev +13%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a chalice glass. This is a dark mahogany colored beer with a light tan head, about a finger's height. The nose features clovy, spicy phenols, slightly woody, with a touch of caramel malt and some light ripe fruitiness. The flavor is rather heady, with malt that's more substantial than the well-known Belgian trappists, bready with caramel and toffee. Nicely phenolic as well, giving a peppery, clovy edge. Yeasty esters are present but not a major component. Strong enough to be warming, though without any tastable alcohol. Good mouthfeel, but not heavy.

Nice addition to the trappist lineup. I'd like to think with the malt they're separating themselves from the default more northern standard for the style.

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
87 out of 100 based on 427 ratings.