Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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Reviews: 123
Hads: 458
rAvg: 3.8
pDev: 11.58%
Wants: 35
Gots: 67 | FT: 3
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Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Reviews by Franziskaner:
Photo of Franziskaner
3.27/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark brown to nearly black in color. An inch of light beige head rests on top. I smell dark malt and honey. I taste earthy dark malt and honey but it just seems a bit too simplistic. The mouth is fairly carbonated and tastes of alcohol. There's a moderate dark malt aftertaste. (277 characters)

More User Reviews:
Photo of BEERchitect
4.25/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

As the "little brother" of the Trappist brewing, Stift Engelszell steps into the Strong Dark Ale arena with a bold and majestic ale that carries a regal sense of complexity and with superb drinkability.

Gregorius pours with a deep dark russet brown hue and the expected yeasty rust haze. The beer calmly builds a creamy but short off-white head. Though the beer is restrained with its foamy lacing, it does celebrates brandy-type legging that coats the glass with malt oils with a gentle swirl of the chalice.

Creamy candied aromas and taste begin with an elegant sweetness that's reminescent of grape, hard candy, and powdered sugar. Combined with the robust tastes of grilled dark fruit, blackcurrant, cabernet, mild chocolate, light coffee grind, cola nuts and cashews- the taste is varying but savory and sweet. Added complexities arise with raisin, plumb and prune as the beer warms and the taste buds invite more delicate character. A balance of vinous woods and black pepper balance the sweetness and fruit and close the beer with a dry sweetness that's every bit as wine-like as ale.

Its firm and creamy body is rich, savory and succulent with its initial sip. But finishing warm, its evident that the malts have receded, the bitterness of wood oils rises, and the alcohols pronounce.

And with the same type of satisfaction of Koningshoeven La Trappe Quad, Gregorius has fit the Trappist Strong Dark Ale taste, complexity, and drinakability to a tee. (1,462 characters)

Photo of Bitterbill
4.22/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I bought this as part of a gift pack that included Benno and the glass.

Bottled in February 2014.

It pours a hazy, no cloudy rusty brown with a huge head of foam that is great with the lacing.

The smell has quite a bit of bitterness to it yet there's a honey sweetness going on as well. Perhaps some molasses but more interestingly, I can smell some funky notes.

The honey is the first thing I notice in the taste; quite sweet on my palate. The bitterness I noted in the smell is very citrus like in the taste and the the curious funk smell...I get that too. A very complicated beer here, I reckon.

Full bodied, medium carbonation.

This is most definitely a "weird" brew and I reckon a very polarizing one. Put me in the camp that likes it. (754 characters)

Photo of BeerIsland
4.45/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A FaceBook alert had me out on the trail for this draft. Deep brown with a sweet head made this an attactive tulip. This is a complex, big beer but tart enough to desire a second. Although Belgian style through and through, the Austrian have provided enough of a different take to stand out. Thanks, Paul, for getting this one on. (330 characters)

Photo of BethanyB
3.58/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Look: Dare I say a bit swampish? It's a medium, murky brown, with spotty tan fizz for a head. Not the most attractive of beers, but the low head retention is somewhat acceptable due to the high alcohol content, and the cloudiness is not atypical for the style.

Smell: Dark fruit scents are both sweet and sharp. Blackberries and fermented grapes give off a Petit Syrah character. Meanwhile, cocoa, figs, and plums add a musky softness. More malt complexity could bring some needed balance and roundness to this fruit-forward bouquet.

Taste: The juicy layers of dark fruit are given bit of a kick by a tangy, marmalade taste, and additional balance is brought on by some honey sweetness. Malt characteristics remain lacking, although the light cocoa on the nose is still present in the taste. Light bitterness settles in straight away. It is a strong and interesting concoction, but in terms of complexity, it is outdone by plenty other examples of the style.

Mouthfeel: The intense dryness is immediately apparent, adding a sort of vaporous sensation to the beginning of each sip. While quite syrupy, some weight is removed by a high level of carbonation. A tingling on the tongue builds until the taste is affected--it's as if one's taste buds have been obliterated by pop rocks.

Overall: A somewhat fascinating specimen, and yet, the flavor and aroma beg for a bit more complexity. The harsh mouthfeel is interesting, but perhaps not I the best of ways, as it begins to distract and detract from the flavor. (1,521 characters)

Photo of tbryan5
3.75/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of -DF-
3.61/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of tjumfrid
4.19/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

After trying almost all the Belgian Trappist ales (sans Westveleteren) I was ecstatic to find this in the beer aisle. Poured from a 11.2 oz. bottle into a Belgian tulip.

Appearance: Dark mahogany and purple. Thin lacing on the top.

Smell: Strawberry preserves, some plum. Very unique, not what I was expecting.

Taste: Starts with a concoction of plum and honey. Booziness overpowers these flavors at the finish. Unlike most other Trappist ales with a high abv content, the booze is not concealed in this one. The finish adds to the uniqueness of this Austrian Trappist ale. I rather like it.

Mouthfeel: Surprisingly medium-bodied. Not as chewy as would have thought.

Overall: I will be picking this up again. If the Benno is as good as the Gregorious, Engelszell shall be named among my top favorite Trappist breweries. (829 characters)

Photo of DWolf
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Photo of Beerswag
3.75/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of aquazr1
3.94/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of BeerDrinkingDiver
3.25/5  rDev -14.5%

Photo of olradetbalder
3.25/5  rDev -14.5%

Photo of bsp77
3.54/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Chocolate brown with decent tan head.

Smell: Loads of dark fruit, slightly sickly, and some Belgian spiciness.

Taste: Very sweet with plum, raisin, dates and cherry. Some spice notes, with a touch of honey.

Feel: Low carbonation with a sticky body. Finish has some drier mead characteristics but not quite enough.

Overall: Okay Belgian Strong Ale. Simply too sweet and ripe. I prefer their Benno beer by a wide margin, which is some kind of Saison/BPA/Braggot concoction. (536 characters)

Photo of Marius
4.5/5  rDev +18.4%

Photo of ehammond1
3.7/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle (2012)

Thanks for opening this with me, JealousChalice!

Mahogany and dark brown with a creamy brown head of very small bubbles. Leaves sheets of stick down the glass.

Roasted malt, dark fruits, distinctive Belgian yeast, and some ash and char round out the aroma.

The flavor is very reminiscent of a Belgian dubbel, with dark fruits and distinctive, earthy yeast making up the bulk of the flavor, along with a coffee/char/ash tray flavor lingering in the background.

Medium bodied with creamy carbonation.

Good, but nothing paradigm shifting. (555 characters)

Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.15/5  rDev -17.1%

A 330ml bottle with a BB of June 2014, so it's a bit out of date. Acquired ages ago from Trembling Madness in York and stashed away. I'm hoping age will have improved it. The ingredient list mentions honey....

A: Poured into a Duvel tulip. Bottle conditioned - this contains a vast amount of slimy sediment that looks like snot (perhaps 10-15%). Rather unappetising to put it mildly, and not what I want to see in an expensive brew. A dark brown hue that appears virtually black in the glass. Holding it to the light reveals plenty of floating chunks that I take to be yeast. Yields a small head of beige foam that disappears rapidly. Quite disgusting.

S: Aroma of sweet, fruity malt with hints of prunes, raisins, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, marzipan, subtle yeast esters and a touch of stewed leaves. A warming whiff of booze in the background.

T: Tastes of sweet, fruity malt that borders on cloying, with a subtle bitter finish. Notes of prunes, dried fruit, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, faint marzipan, stewed leaves, harsh cardboard and fruity yeast esters. A touch of solventy alcohol in the background. Quite sweet, followed by a restrained, herbal bitterness upon swallowing.

M: Mouthfeel is smooth and tingly, with effervescent carbonation and good body. A slightly harsh quality on the palate. Somewhat astringent, accompanied by an aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt, stewed leaves and acrid cardboard.

O: Disappointing; particularly the gunk in the bottle. Unpleasant looks, while the aroma and flavour are rich and sweet with harsh undertones. Body is OK. It resembles a quad but hasn't aged as well as I might have wished. Fruity but plagued by off-notes and generally unsatisfying. Perhaps this is just a bad bottle - the potential is certainly there. I may re-review if I get the chance. That said - caveat emptor. (1,855 characters)

Photo of BGDrock
4.26/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: pours a muddy brown with hint of red, like prune juice; thick head sizzles away in a minute, leaving a thin film of suds

Aroma: great rich fruitiness courtesy of the yeast - prune and raisin, strawberry

Taste & Mouthfeel: intense burst of flavour, sweet like candy, even puckering, before heat of alcohol burns away the excess, leaving the palate on fire dried fruit notes and a dry finish, begging for another sip; medium-full body, has great mouthfeel from fine carbonation and unfiltered yeast.

Overall: the depth of flavour may not be as exciting as that of the top trappist beers, but it executes the style well with great feel (647 characters)

Photo of Libationguy
4.38/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Medium brown in color with a deep tan head. Head pours full with a medium+ retention.

Malt up front and on display in the nose. Hazelnuts, molasses, deep roasted malt, rich fruitiness and bread crust.

Rich, round, roasted malt flavor. Brown sugar and molasses notes bring the beer up to the edge of sweet before hop bitterness puts in a check and brings everything back into balance. Just a little touch of alcohol heat, but really nicely balanced for a beer approaching 10%.

Medium+ texture on the mouthfeel. Rich, creamy, dense and lasting.

So much power and it is truly a meal in a glass. Nicely made. (609 characters)

Photo of kwkdmk
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Photo of chinchill
3.72/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

on tap at the Thirsty Monk in Asheville.
Pour is a murky brown with almost no head and little lacing.
Smells sweet and fruity, with dried plum dominant. Some faint malt.
Rich fruity taste is mildly sweet and moderate-high in complexity.
A touch of sour keeps the sweetness in check.
Interesting but less compelling than hoped. (328 characters)

Photo of valkyre65
3.98/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of jtladner
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Photo of Beer21
3.75/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.33/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip)
brewed on 2012/11
A- This beer pours a lumpy dense walnut brown body with a thick tan creamy head that last a good bit and has some thick lacing after each sip.

S- The soft almost nutty dark malt qualities are blended with hint of dark fruit like cherry pits. As it opens the aroma really develops with some vinous notes and finish of soy sauce and cola hints that are quite pleasant.

T- The soft mellow dark malt flavors have more dark dried fruit and prune layers with old wet barrel qualities and a roasted malt hint in the finish that is complimented by a nice alcohol spice. There is also a red wine tannin that lingers in the mix aswell.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a tight little fizz and a nice alcohol warmth.

O- This beer is a classic in the abbey style. Great subtle depth that grows as the beer opens, making it simple yet elegant. It really helped to take the chill of coming in from the cold. (939 characters)

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