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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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Ratings: 427
Reviews: 117
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 12.73%
Wants: 35
Gots: 48 | FT: 2
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Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.25/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

As the "little brother" of the Trappist brewing, Stift Engelszell steps into the Strong Dark Ale arena with a bold and majestic ale that carries a regal sense of complexity and with superb drinkability.

Gregorius pours with a deep dark russet brown hue and the expected yeasty rust haze. The beer calmly builds a creamy but short off-white head. Though the beer is restrained with its foamy lacing, it does celebrates brandy-type legging that coats the glass with malt oils with a gentle swirl of the chalice.

Creamy candied aromas and taste begin with an elegant sweetness that's reminescent of grape, hard candy, and powdered sugar. Combined with the robust tastes of grilled dark fruit, blackcurrant, cabernet, mild chocolate, light coffee grind, cola nuts and cashews- the taste is varying but savory and sweet. Added complexities arise with raisin, plumb and prune as the beer warms and the taste buds invite more delicate character. A balance of vinous woods and black pepper balance the sweetness and fruit and close the beer with a dry sweetness that's every bit as wine-like as ale.

Its firm and creamy body is rich, savory and succulent with its initial sip. But finishing warm, its evident that the malts have receded, the bitterness of wood oils rises, and the alcohols pronounce.

And with the same type of satisfaction of Koningshoeven La Trappe Quad, Gregorius has fit the Trappist Strong Dark Ale taste, complexity, and drinakability to a tee.

Photo of Bitterbill
4.22/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I bought this as part of a gift pack that included Benno and the glass.

Bottled in February 2014.

It pours a hazy, no cloudy rusty brown with a huge head of foam that is great with the lacing.

The smell has quite a bit of bitterness to it yet there's a honey sweetness going on as well. Perhaps some molasses but more interestingly, I can smell some funky notes.

The honey is the first thing I notice in the taste; quite sweet on my palate. The bitterness I noted in the smell is very citrus like in the taste and the the curious funk smell...I get that too. A very complicated beer here, I reckon.

Full bodied, medium carbonation.

This is most definitely a "weird" brew and I reckon a very polarizing one. Put me in the camp that likes it.

Photo of BeerIsland
4.45/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A FaceBook alert had me out on the trail for this draft. Deep brown with a sweet head made this an attactive tulip. This is a complex, big beer but tart enough to desire a second. Although Belgian style through and through, the Austrian have provided enough of a different take to stand out. Thanks, Paul, for getting this one on.

Photo of BethanyB
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Look: Dare I say a bit swampish? It's a medium, murky brown, with spotty tan fizz for a head. Not the most attractive of beers, but the low head retention is somewhat acceptable due to the high alcohol content, and the cloudiness is not atypical for the style.

Smell: Dark fruit scents are both sweet and sharp. Blackberries and fermented grapes give off a Petit Syrah character. Meanwhile, cocoa, figs, and plums add a musky softness. More malt complexity could bring some needed balance and roundness to this fruit-forward bouquet.

Taste: The juicy layers of dark fruit are given bit of a kick by a tangy, marmalade taste, and additional balance is brought on by some honey sweetness. Malt characteristics remain lacking, although the light cocoa on the nose is still present in the taste. Light bitterness settles in straight away. It is a strong and interesting concoction, but in terms of complexity, it is outdone by plenty other examples of the style.

Mouthfeel: The intense dryness is immediately apparent, adding a sort of vaporous sensation to the beginning of each sip. While quite syrupy, some weight is removed by a high level of carbonation. A tingling on the tongue builds until the taste is affected--it's as if one's taste buds have been obliterated by pop rocks.

Overall: A somewhat fascinating specimen, and yet, the flavor and aroma beg for a bit more complexity. The harsh mouthfeel is interesting, but perhaps not I the best of ways, as it begins to distract and detract from the flavor.

Photo of tjumfrid
4.19/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

After trying almost all the Belgian Trappist ales (sans Westveleteren) I was ecstatic to find this in the beer aisle. Poured from a 11.2 oz. bottle into a Belgian tulip.

Appearance: Dark mahogany and purple. Thin lacing on the top.

Smell: Strawberry preserves, some plum. Very unique, not what I was expecting.

Taste: Starts with a concoction of plum and honey. Booziness overpowers these flavors at the finish. Unlike most other Trappist ales with a high abv content, the booze is not concealed in this one. The finish adds to the uniqueness of this Austrian Trappist ale. I rather like it.

Mouthfeel: Surprisingly medium-bodied. Not as chewy as would have thought.

Overall: I will be picking this up again. If the Benno is as good as the Gregorious, Engelszell shall be named among my top favorite Trappist breweries.

Photo of bsp77
3.54/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Chocolate brown with decent tan head.

Smell: Loads of dark fruit, slightly sickly, and some Belgian spiciness.

Taste: Very sweet with plum, raisin, dates and cherry. Some spice notes, with a touch of honey.

Feel: Low carbonation with a sticky body. Finish has some drier mead characteristics but not quite enough.

Overall: Okay Belgian Strong Ale. Simply too sweet and ripe. I prefer their Benno beer by a wide margin, which is some kind of Saison/BPA/Braggot concoction.

Photo of Franziskaner
3.27/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark brown to nearly black in color. An inch of light beige head rests on top. I smell dark malt and honey. I taste earthy dark malt and honey but it just seems a bit too simplistic. The mouth is fairly carbonated and tastes of alcohol. There's a moderate dark malt aftertaste.

Photo of ehammond1
3.7/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle (2012)

Thanks for opening this with me, JealousChalice!

Mahogany and dark brown with a creamy brown head of very small bubbles. Leaves sheets of stick down the glass.

Roasted malt, dark fruits, distinctive Belgian yeast, and some ash and char round out the aroma.

The flavor is very reminiscent of a Belgian dubbel, with dark fruits and distinctive, earthy yeast making up the bulk of the flavor, along with a coffee/char/ash tray flavor lingering in the background.

Medium bodied with creamy carbonation.

Good, but nothing paradigm shifting.

Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.15/5  rDev -18.2%

A 330ml bottle with a BB of June 2014, so it's a bit out of date. Acquired ages ago from Trembling Madness in York and stashed away. I'm hoping age will have improved it. The ingredient list mentions honey....

A: Poured into a Duvel tulip. Bottle conditioned - this contains a vast amount of slimy sediment that looks like snot (perhaps 10-15%). Rather unappetising to put it mildly, and not what I want to see in an expensive brew. A dark brown hue that appears virtually black in the glass. Holding it to the light reveals plenty of floating chunks that I take to be yeast. Yields a small head of beige foam that disappears rapidly. Quite disgusting.

S: Aroma of sweet, fruity malt with hints of prunes, raisins, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, marzipan, subtle yeast esters and a touch of stewed leaves. A warming whiff of booze in the background.

T: Tastes of sweet, fruity malt that borders on cloying, with a subtle bitter finish. Notes of prunes, dried fruit, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, faint marzipan, stewed leaves, harsh cardboard and fruity yeast esters. A touch of solventy alcohol in the background. Quite sweet, followed by a restrained, herbal bitterness upon swallowing.

M: Mouthfeel is smooth and tingly, with effervescent carbonation and good body. A slightly harsh quality on the palate. Somewhat astringent, accompanied by an aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt, stewed leaves and acrid cardboard.

O: Disappointing; particularly the gunk in the bottle. Unpleasant looks, while the aroma and flavour are rich and sweet with harsh undertones. Body is OK. It resembles a quad but hasn't aged as well as I might have wished. Fruity but plagued by off-notes and generally unsatisfying. Perhaps this is just a bad bottle - the potential is certainly there. I may re-review if I get the chance. That said - caveat emptor.

Photo of Libationguy
4.38/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Medium brown in color with a deep tan head. Head pours full with a medium+ retention.

Malt up front and on display in the nose. Hazelnuts, molasses, deep roasted malt, rich fruitiness and bread crust.

Rich, round, roasted malt flavor. Brown sugar and molasses notes bring the beer up to the edge of sweet before hop bitterness puts in a check and brings everything back into balance. Just a little touch of alcohol heat, but really nicely balanced for a beer approaching 10%.

Medium+ texture on the mouthfeel. Rich, creamy, dense and lasting.

So much power and it is truly a meal in a glass. Nicely made.

Photo of chinchill
3.72/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

on tap at the Thirsty Monk in Asheville.
Pour is a murky brown with almost no head and little lacing.
Smells sweet and fruity, with dried plum dominant. Some faint malt.
Rich fruity taste is mildly sweet and moderate-high in complexity.
A touch of sour keeps the sweetness in check.
Interesting but less compelling than hoped.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.33/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip)
brewed on 2012/11
A- This beer pours a lumpy dense walnut brown body with a thick tan creamy head that last a good bit and has some thick lacing after each sip.

S- The soft almost nutty dark malt qualities are blended with hint of dark fruit like cherry pits. As it opens the aroma really develops with some vinous notes and finish of soy sauce and cola hints that are quite pleasant.

T- The soft mellow dark malt flavors have more dark dried fruit and prune layers with old wet barrel qualities and a roasted malt hint in the finish that is complimented by a nice alcohol spice. There is also a red wine tannin that lingers in the mix aswell.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a tight little fizz and a nice alcohol warmth.

O- This beer is a classic in the abbey style. Great subtle depth that grows as the beer opens, making it simple yet elegant. It really helped to take the chill of coming in from the cold.

Photo of Auraan
4.31/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured a nice reddish brown with a one finger tan head, leaving little lacing down the glass. Quite nice and true to style, a good appearance. Scents of Belgian yeast, some wild, sour aromas, faint candi sugar, overripe fruit, grape, plum, slight cocoa, dark chocolate and some brown sugar. A very nice, complex aroma, true to form for an Abbey strong dark, very well executed. Taste begins with dark fruit, prune and raisin with some sour funk in the background. White grape appears in the middle, along with spicy yeast and sweet spices. Towards the end of the sip better sweet chocolate and bready malt come forward. A good amount of alcohol is present in the flavor. A sweet brew, with the usual Belgian spiciness. Very well done, quite complex and enjoyable. Mouthfeel is medium-heavy bodied with medium low carbonation and a semi-drying, chalky mouthfeel. Very good, very much a Belgian. Overall this is a good Belgian Strong Dark. All the usual flavors and aromas are on display, the complexity is present and its a very good beer. Its not quite on the level of Rochefort, Chimay or Bernardus, but its very good regardless.

Photo of Brenden
3.71/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This ale from the world's most recent trappist brewery is a thick medium brown color. It develops a moderately-sized light brown head with equally moderate retention and a pretty good bit of patching on the glass.
This beer has hints of the sweetness I'd expect from the style without going full on with it. It makes for an interesting character, perhaps something a little different in the trappist arena. There is honey used in the brewing process, something that shows in a particular character without the sweetness that's lost in the brewing process. There are, however, notes of toffee and molasses along with the earthiness and bready malts. Just a hint of dark fruits are in there also. There's an earthiness from both yeast and hops that comes out more strongly on the tongue. The note of clove is subtle. While unusual, it does make for a pretty good beer.
This one doesn't have all the big but balanced richness of the greats, but it's certainly not bad. It has enough body, though I might prefer a touch more, and displays a little dryness coming into the finish.

Photo of biboergosum
3.93/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle. It's not every day that a new Trappist brewery hits the shelves, so a bit of fanfare is in the air, folks.

This beer pours a hazy, dark reddish mahogany hue, with three fingers of tight, densely foamy beige head, which leaves but a few instances of sea spout lace around the glass as it evenly subsides.

It smells of dark, lightly toasted caramel malt, sozzled black fruit - prunes, wild cherries, and raisins - a molasses/treacle sugar-spike, mild clove and black pepper spice, a slight earthy mustiness, and faint warming alcohol. The taste is somewhat tart dark fruitcake, the essence of honey, as in the way of mead, diluted molasses, a hint of crème fraîche, packaged dates, caramel squares, toasted dark bread, subtle clove, and a further weak mustiness, equaled in its understatement by the very wallflowerish booze.

The carbonation is fairly tame, and at the same time kind of frothy, the body a hearty medium weight, and generally quite smooth, even if a pervasive sourness takes its (less than a) pound of flesh. It finishes off-dry, the fruity, malty, and sugary notes all well tempered by their corresponding sour/tart offsets.

An interesting, and tasty enough take on the entrenched Trappist BSDA - the initial delta indicated on the label - the honey - really taking a back seat to the skulking sour fruit character that comes to fill one's perception of this offering. Which I suppose is just fine, as who really wants another Rochefort/Westy/La Trappe clone (as good as those are), when there's new ground to break? Beer-speaking, of course, as the Abbey itself was founded back in 1293.

Photo of Roguer
4.19/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful super dark brown and opaque beer. Light at the edges reveals floaties and a nut brown hue. Strong tan head with phenomenal retention and wide lacing.

Strong, dominant aroma: sweet dark fruit (figs and prunes), malts (toffee, caramel, and cocoa), a hint of spices (nutmeg), and nuts. Classic Quad/Dubbel aroma.

Flavor is sweet, fruity, and malty up front; prunes, plums, cherries, and raisins carry the day, riding the backs of dark, sweet fruitbread; hints of spices and cocoa, and impressions of walnuts and pecans. There is a curious, slightly overripe sourness that comes through on the back-end and lingers through the aftertaste.

Thick, cloying mouthfeel; slight alcohol heat on the sticky finish; minor puckering; lively with no sting. Very impressive mouthfeel and character for the ABV.

This is an excellent quad, on par with the best American versions I've had. That lasting overripe sourness, however, keeps it firmly from the territory of Rochefort et al. A wonderfully crafted and delicious beer.

Photo of jtierney89
3.3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

deep semi murky brown fluffy off white head that dies rather quickly. smells nutty rich and earthy smells sweet musty and woody.

tastes a lot like the smell. a bit medicinal and booze, very musty semi vinious but not like a good wine. drinkable and good but I'm not sure if it's up to trappist standards

Photo of GuyIncognito
3/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got this bottle from a friend who works at a distributor. I really wanted to like it- 8th trappist beer, from Austria, made with alsatian wine yeast, etc. etc., but it was just a boozy mess. Unimpressive appearance, strong phenols, and lackadaisical finish. At 9.7 abv it packs a punch, but it is a boring, slightly off, punch.

Photo of JeffreyJDavis
4.14/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from a 330ml bottle straight from the cellar at 54F into a Westy 12 mini-chalice.

A: Looks great! A rich dark chestnut / mahogany color with more head than I am accustomed to on a quad or BSDA. About 2.5 fingers of caramel head which receded slowly with pretty persistent lacing legs.

N: Not as pungent as would be expected, a pretty mellow nose to me. Vinous aroma with sweetness, dark fruits and nuttiness. Not boozy to me at all. Not a bad nose, just nowhere as big or complex as I expected.

T: A delicious desert sipper. Relatively sweet, but not cloying at all. I wouldn't tag it as honey, more like toffee and molasses. Earthy flavors of figs, raisins and noble rot grapes combined with caramel and mild nuttiness. It's not near as complex as a Westy 12 , Rochefort 10 or Pannepot Reserva, but that's not necessarily bad. Also missing most of the licorice or medicinal herbality which I am not a fan of.

MF: Great , creamy mouthfeel which feels lovely as each sip slides down. Very smooth and velvety. Carbonation is ample which helps the balance of the feel.

O: Overall, this is a very nice beer and worthy of the Trappist Product designation. It's not quite on the same level as best in class quads mentioned above, but it's well worth searching out and trying, especially if you are a Trappist Explorer!!

Photo of puboflyons
3.81/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

From the 11.2 fl. oz. bottle that is stamped "Brewed in Year 2012/11." Sampled on May 20, 2013.

It pours dark brown with a lingering mocha head and a slight cloudy look. Decent lacing.

The honey with which it is brewed does introduce itself in a low profile sort of way after I get over the boozy hump. It evolves into something sweet. Also noted on the nose is coffee and dark fruit like cherry or currant.

The body is pretty bold.

The honey is a little difficult to find in the flavor. Instead my taste buds are teased with dark malts, cherry, licorice, coffee, and a slightly lingering bitterness at the end. There are some characteristics that I like about this one.

Photo of bluejacket74
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, label says Brewed in Year 2013/01. Served in a DFH Signature Glass, the beer pours a murky mahogany brown color with about an inch tan head. Head retention and lacing are both good. The brew smells like dark fruit, dark bread, sweet spices, clove and honey. I think for the most part the taste is the same as the aroma, but there's also some herbs, molasses and some nuts noticeable. This is definitely a sweeter tasting brew. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's slick, smooth and easy to drink. I thought this was a good beer, I wouldn't mind trying this one again in the future. $5.99 a bottle.

Photo of DeepJello
3.96/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Dated 02/2104.

A: Gusher. Bubbly. Pours a dark muddled brown, almost a dark ruby color. Half a fingers worth of white/brownish head. Some sediment.
S: Strong earthy tones/yeast. Light plums and cherries, dark fruit. Slight smell of sweet alcohol, lingering in the back end.
T: Very complex. Flavors of bread/yeast, mild dark fruits, plum, tobacco, light smoke. Alcohol is unnoticeable and well hidden.
M: Highly carbonated and alive. Dances on the tongue. Coats the mouth with bran flakes, plum, tobacco, and alcohol.
O: It's a very complex beer. Kind of driving my taste buds crazy right now, not in a bad way. Alcohol is well hidden throughout the beer. I like this beer more than most of the Americanized versions of a Belgian strong dark.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle picked up at the COOP tonight for about $6... Poured into my HotD goblet and received a short lasting tan head with little to no lacing... the brew is hazy dark walnut... Looked like quite a bit of yeast/sediment got into the glass during the pour before I noticed.

Nose shows earthy dark maltiness with little in the way of traditional esters or phenols.. mainly just dark malt with a subtle kiss of malt sweetness... does not smell "malty" though if that makes sense.

Flavor is dominated by again sorta dry dark malt essence... a bit of sweetness reminds me of a musky mead... dry dusty, sorta nutty dark malt on the finish.

Okay carbonation and body.. but both seem a little muddy.

Better than average certainly, but I guess I was hoping for more.

3.5's across the board.

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.05/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Gouyasse tulip glass. Pours a very dark mahogany brown with a fine two finger light tan head with great retention and lacing. Aroma of dark fruit, dark malt, winter spices (clove and cinnamon), slightly vinous. Dense flavor of concentrated dark and dried fruit, dark malt, chocolate, aged wine, hints of cinnamon and clove. Integrated and woody flavors similar to a barrel aged ale. Medium to heavy bodied with excellent creaminess. Complex, unusual and interesting, I enjoyed this new entry into the Trappist beer world very much.

Photo of Beer-A-Lot
4.42/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Birch.

A - Nice head. Very dark brown/black color.

S - Bready, yeasty, substantial.

T - Spicy, peppery, raisiny, a bit of leather. Am I drinking a Belgian Strong or a Bordeau?

M - Perfect balance of flavors and booze.

O - An outstanding beer that I hope to have again. This one's good.

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
87 out of 100 based on 427 ratings.