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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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Reviews: 135
Hads: 486
Avg: 3.81
pDev: 23.88%
Wants: 39
Gots: 79 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell
Austria | website

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale | 9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of shand
3.99/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gregorius pours a muddy brown with a dense head. The aroma is sweet with dark fruits, and slightly tart. The taste is fruity up front, with a bit of darkness from the malt brewing in the back the whole time. A bit of tartness and Belgian yeast round out the flavor. Overall, Gregorius is a tasty beer, if not jaw-dropping. A solid introduction from the new Trappist brewery.

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Photo of Bouleboubier
3.97/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

(found and consumed a bottle at Belmont Station, Portland)

A: dark brown and opaque.... leaves molasses-y legs

S: smells of latrine.... caramel/cream-infused coffee, with the roast sanded off

T: Belgian brown, immediate prejudice... kinda like the lovechild of Gouden Carolus Classic and Orval?... mellow sour/tart tinge, sweet phenols, long toffee finish - sum of the parts balance well in the aftertaste.... later, getting more of bubblegum and grapefruit cushioned by thick, velvet malt

M: smooth-ass, med-full body... not hot

O: not bad at all... a little rough around the edges... all in all, Trappist worthy?

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Photo of biegaman
3.97/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Gregorius is a mighty sounding name but this beer looks like hoisin sauce: dark, thick, flat. Not terribly intimidating. The bottle had so much sediment that the glass looks half full of liquid, half full of sand. Indeed yeast has a more visible presence than carbonation; there's no head at all.

Speaking of Asian sauces, the way this smells it could double as a sticky balsamic and soy glaze. The malt has a tinge of burnt sugar and ripe purple plum. There's also a substantial amount of anise seed and black pepper; the aroma may be darker than the appearance.

I've never tried knotting a bruised banana peel with my tongue but I imagine this is the taste it might leave in my mouth. This beer combines numerous fruits (banana, date, raisin, fig, apple) and what each flavour has in common is that they taste heavily bruised. The anise, clove, and mace give it a compote-like profile. It is at once spicy, savory, and sweet.

This particular sample is approaching one year in age but shows no signs of slowing down; the yeast is perfumed and effervescent as always. The alcohol enhances that spiciness and, as such, stays relatively disguised (there's enough maltiness to keep it at bay anyhow). The beer ends on a note of black licorice, baking spice, and clover honey.

Gregorius may lack that certain 'je ne sais quoi' of time-honoured Belgian monastic Quads, but Austria's first (and thus far only) Trappist brewery seems to be off to the right start. This is a very serviceable and satiating strong, rich, dark ale. The use of honey is purely incidental amidst such spicy yeast, formidable alcohol, and heavy maltiness, but still this recipe needs no changing.

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Photo of DeepJello
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Dated 02/2104.

A: Gusher. Bubbly. Pours a dark muddled brown, almost a dark ruby color. Half a fingers worth of white/brownish head. Some sediment.
S: Strong earthy tones/yeast. Light plums and cherries, dark fruit. Slight smell of sweet alcohol, lingering in the back end.
T: Very complex. Flavors of bread/yeast, mild dark fruits, plum, tobacco, light smoke. Alcohol is unnoticeable and well hidden.
M: Highly carbonated and alive. Dances on the tongue. Coats the mouth with bran flakes, plum, tobacco, and alcohol.
O: It's a very complex beer. Kind of driving my taste buds crazy right now, not in a bad way. Alcohol is well hidden throughout the beer. I like this beer more than most of the Americanized versions of a Belgian strong dark.

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Photo of Jeffo
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Present from Sinter Klaas a few weeks ago. Thanks Doops!

From a bottle into a snifter
Best before 08.11.2014
10 cent refund in Quebec

APPEARANCE: Pours a small, looser, fizzy, cream-white head with lousy retention for the style. Fizzes away to a faint wisp and ring rather quickly. Clear, dark ruby or chestnut red with medium levels of carbonation. A ring remains but leaves no real lacing down the glass. An unimpressive head, and actually looks like an old Rochefort 10.

SMELL: Caramel, toffee, light butterscotch, some fruit notes, like raisins and red berries, as well as some spicy yeast qualities. Milder, but definitely different and interesting, especially in the malt bill.

TASTE: Caramel, raisins, as well as some red fruits and berry notes before a boozy and spicy finish at the swallow. Quite bold in flavor. Aftertaste is very spicy and yeasty, with some sweet caramel, a touch of hop bitterness, as well as a good dose of alcohol. Lots of clove, coriander, and yeasty spices. Boozy as well. Really nice, though a touch too boozy for top marks.

PALATE: Medium-fuller body with medium levels of carbonation. Quite creamy smooth for sure, goes down smooth and finishes slightly dry. A bit of a scratch at the swallow and some heat lingers. Weighty and creamy smooth with a full body. Solid.

OVERALL: This is quite good and somewhat unique in flavor for the style. Good and interesting flavor profile and a full, creamy feel for the style. The look could use some more work, but this is still a solid, solid beer. A wonderful addition to the trappiste lineup. Cheers again Doops!

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Photo of thierrynantes
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Beer bottle (33 cl.) purchased from La Cervoiserie, and tasted in 2013.

Appearance : dark red brown color, with thin beige head.
Smell : malty and burnt caramel aromas.
Taste & mouthfeel : sweet malty and yeasty flavors, alcohol presence leading to a bitter finish.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Belgian quadruple (trappisten bier)

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Photo of Stubbie1
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark mahogany brown with a tan head, decent but quickly fades to nothing. Aroma is dark fruit, raisins, fig, plum and a boozy background. Taste is sweet with the dark fruit and the boozy tone fills in. A soft bitter bite on the tounge for a finish is present. Smooth on the pallet, not bad.

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Photo of WillCarrera
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

On-tap at Churchkey in DC, poured into a balloon glass.

A- Pours nearly black, held up to light it reveals some burgundy hues, produces a thin khaki head.

S- Mix of dark fruits (fig, dates, raisins), and roasted malt, maybe some coffee and dark chocolate.

T-Big sweet flavor, at first I'm getting a lot of roasted grain with coffee and chocolate, almost porter-like, but on subsequent sips the dark fruit becomes more prominent. Lots of figs, raisins, maybe some leather. There's a bit of sweet, fruity alcohol on the end with medicinal phenol flavor.

M- Medium to full-bodied, creamy, rich feel.

O- A very interesting beer, it definitely sets itself apart from its Belgian counterparts, definitely give this a try, although the fruity, rich sweetness makes it a sipper.

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Photo of flagmantho
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 330mL bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: medium-dark brown hue with plenty of murk and two fingers of frothy tan foam. The head has good retention and the color is great.

Smell: very sweet with a nice dark-fruit character of date, raisin and cherry. It's not hugely complex, but it's still pretty damn nice.

Taste: a little bit richer and deeper than the aroma, but along the same theme; dates, figs and tobacco are the primary flavors here. There's also a nice dustiness toward the end that I tend to enjoy in the style. A fine beer.

Mouthfeel: medium-rich body with a good carbonation and a very satisfying creaminess. Quite nice.

Overall: I like this beer quite a lot. It hits my favorite areas for the style quite nicely.

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Photo of impending
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

B+

33cl into a tulip. Pours a deep copper bronze, minor tan head, minor lacing.

Aroma is of sweet dark fruits, spicy and herbal. At the last moment faint mentholatum comes forth nicely.

Sweet yet dry. A foundation of mild molasses and semi sweet caramel. A nice herbal bitter long evolving aftertaste like roasted tree bark.
delicious, wonderful at room temp
these may be the first Trappists to brew a stout
cheers
jd

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Photo of biboergosum
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle. It's not every day that a new Trappist brewery hits the shelves, so a bit of fanfare is in the air, folks.

This beer pours a hazy, dark reddish mahogany hue, with three fingers of tight, densely foamy beige head, which leaves but a few instances of sea spout lace around the glass as it evenly subsides.

It smells of dark, lightly toasted caramel malt, sozzled black fruit - prunes, wild cherries, and raisins - a molasses/treacle sugar-spike, mild clove and black pepper spice, a slight earthy mustiness, and faint warming alcohol. The taste is somewhat tart dark fruitcake, the essence of honey, as in the way of mead, diluted molasses, a hint of crème fraîche, packaged dates, caramel squares, toasted dark bread, subtle clove, and a further weak mustiness, equaled in its understatement by the very wallflowerish booze.

The carbonation is fairly tame, and at the same time kind of frothy, the body a hearty medium weight, and generally quite smooth, even if a pervasive sourness takes its (less than a) pound of flesh. It finishes off-dry, the fruity, malty, and sugary notes all well tempered by their corresponding sour/tart offsets.

An interesting, and tasty enough take on the entrenched Trappist BSDA - the initial delta indicated on the label - the honey - really taking a back seat to the skulking sour fruit character that comes to fill one's perception of this offering. Which I suppose is just fine, as who really wants another Rochefort/Westy/La Trappe clone (as good as those are), when there's new ground to break? Beer-speaking, of course, as the Abbey itself was founded back in 1293.

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Photo of jrenihan
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Brewed January 2013.

Beer is very dark brown, with a small tan head. Fades fairly quickly, with a bit of lace.

Smell is very, very fruity. Raisin, grape and plum. A bit of yeast and spice, but mainly fruit. The smell suggests a very sweet beer.

Taste follows the nose, but with a bit more variety. Dark fruit focused; raisin, grape and plum. Some yeast and a bit of bread. Quite a bit of alcohol heat, particularly for the ABV. Yeast is a bit more prominent than the nose. Very sweet, but the finish has a slight dryness with heat. I didn't realize that the sweetness was (at least partially) the result of honey until reading the bottle, but it makes a lot of sense once you know.

Full bodied, moderate carbonation. Lots of heat.

Overall, decent, but the booze is way too prominent and it is too sweet.

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Photo of Beric
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Serving: Bottle into Stift Engelszell teku glass
Served: 3 May 2014

Appearance: Deep, hazy brown with an off-white, tannish two finger head that collapses into a ring of foam around the edges of the glass. Leaves slight lacing. Beer looks beautiful...until the bottom of the glass. This one is bottle fermented, so there is obviously suspended yeast, however, at the bottom of the glass there were these nasty semi-solid yeast clumps to the point where I just couldn't stomach it. It looked gross.

Smell: Sweet, rich caramel, molasses, and toffee notes in the nose.

Taste: If you told me this was a dubbel or a doppelbock I would believe you. Honestly, this tastes like a sweeter version of Korbinian that is a little rougher around the edges. Creamy, gooey caramel and thick molasses are the primary tastes in this one, just like you'd expect from a dubbel or doppelbock. This does NOT taste like Maudite, which is also labeled a "Belgian Strong Dark Ale".

Mouthfeel: Good body and carbonation. Thick on the tongue. Minus points for the awkward yeast clumps.

Overall: This is a great beer with good promise. I think stylistically this is more in-tune with a dubbel or doppelbock rather than how it's currently labeled. Comparing this with Trois Pistoles or Maudite is like comparing two entirely different beers because, well, they are. Elimination of the yeast clumps would make this beer significantly better in appearance and mouthfeel, but the taste is quite good and largely redeems this brew.

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Photo of fishdoc
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Lizardville in Bedford Heights, Ohio.

Appearance: Amber, very cloudy, but the bartender said it has been clearing since it was tapped moments before I was served. Small white head, little to no lacing.

Smell: Complex, sweet yet spicy, hint of roses.

Taste: Candy sugar is first, almost to excess. Then comes bitter chocolate with a very dry finish.

Mouthfeel: Lower carbonation than an abbey style, but appropriate for a Trappist.

Overall: Quite different from the other Trappist ales I have had. It will be on the World Tour at the Winking Lizard in 2013 and I look forward to a second look.

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Photo of dcmchew
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Newest addition to the "Trappist beer order", so it's my chance to find out if it was only a commercial move, or if it really deserves the small stamp on the label (quality-wise).
Starts foaming right after popping the cap. Pours dark brown, almost one finger tan head, nice retention, turns into a thin foamy cap, sticky lacing.
Smell of figs, plums, caramel, toffee, chocolate, soy sauce, honeycomb and a bit of Belgian spiciness.
Very juicy dark fruit up front (raisin, fig, plum, dark grape), a bit musty, mixed with burnt sugar, a bit of lemon zest, some faint cherries and decently strong coffee. Spicy yeasts, with very prickly pepper, faint clove, some aromatic herbs/flowers too. Roasted dark malts and breadiness settle towards the finish, and that's where the alcohol gets really strong (a tiny medicinal hint also, unfortunately). Black tea bitterness is last, mild, accompanied by some lingering roast.
Round body, chewy, medium carbonation that helps the spicy prickle. Aftertaste malty, a nice tasty sweetness and booze (weirdly, a bit tongue-numbing).
A tasty Belgian beer, but might be the weakest of the Trappist bunch. Quite some off notes, hopefully there wasn't something wrong with my bottle. I'll try more, but i don't really think the review will be different.

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Photo of hotsudge
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A= cloudy carmel brown, small head
S= carmel, roasting apples, a hint of malt and vanilla
T=carmel, slight banana
F=smooth, slight sparkle at first
O=a lovely creamy flavourful beer

Didn't have the right glass so I used a Chimay chalice instead. It leaves a chalky like finish on the glass. Only had 1 and served it at the ideal temp. Wish I had a 2nd.

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Photo of LiquidCucumber
3.91/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle dated 11/2012

Pours very dark brown/purple with about a half finger of head. The lacing seems to cling fairly well, so I will give them that. The aroma comes off as very earthy almost chocolatey and the typical BSDA fruit flavors are muted. There is definitely a lot of fruit here compared to other beers, but for the style, I don't think I've smelled anything like it. The flavor it a bit more typical, but I think this beer is trying to do its own thing. I've got lots of cherry and bit of fig, but that dark earth also really comes through due to the dryness of this brew. It's quite a bit different than its Trappist brethren, but that is quite alright. It also is a little untamed, as in hot. After the monks perfect their brewing arts in the coming years [I assume they are getting help from the other Trappists], we will have a world-class beer here.

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Photo of Brabander
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I got this bottle (in a sixpack) from a Dutch guy who went to the abbey in the time the first batch was sold. I gave away five of the six bottles and the sixt was saved for a special occasion.

I was in Austria last week and i decided to take back the bottle to it's country of origin. Drank the bottle in the lovely village of Neustift in the Strubai valley together with an American Facebook friend who was there @ the same time.

Poured out of the bottle into a wine glass, did not have the appropiate glassware with me. Nice head but not spectacular. The smell is normal with a bit caramellic malts in the nose. Taste is not very spectacular when you compare this one with other Trappists.

Glad i got to try this one and that's it!

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Photo of Pencible
3.87/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark mahogany with a little light tan head.
S: It smelled like toffee and raisin bread and nutty malt, with some fresh wheat and leathery malt.
T: It tasted like pumpernickel bread and earthy barley and copper hops, with a little date and wild honey. It had a clean bitter aftertaste.
M: It was somewhat thick with moderate carbonation. Decent body.
D: This was a nicer beer than Benno, but still not an impressive quad. The scent was great, but the taste was more like a brown ale. The body was ok, and the finish was reasonably smooth, so it wasn't difficult to drink. Would probably benefit from some time in the cellar. Decent fresh, but nothing special.

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Photo of bskrtz
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Served cold in glass beer challis.

A) Dense, dark milk chocolate. Suspended fine carbonation with yeasties floating about. Missing the billowy off-white head. Other than that, looks like a classic Belgian Brune

S) Deliciously sweet sour mash. Mild esthers, sour dough, baked apple pie

T) Sweet cooked caramel malts dominate. Stewed dark fruit, figs, raisons. Very complex.

M) Sticky but smooth. This bottle was lacking in carbonation, hence a bit flat. Without proper transport and storage, it may not be the beer. However its a bit flat no matter who's fault

O) A good example of the Trappist Belgian Brune

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Photo of boss302
3.84/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A- Brown hazy, big head, looked like a typical Dubbel.

S- sweetish carmelly aroma, a slight candy also, not much else, clean no mustiness.

T- had the flavor of a Dubbel with Carmel malt tones and some sweetness,
but lacked character. This could have been any abbey double and nothing really identified it as unique. It certainly doesn't stand out as a elite 1 of 8 Trappists, but does hold up as a good Dubbel.

M- typical Belgian dark, good malty thickness and head retention.

O- I will try this on draft and see if it is different, but would think twice about spending the large amount of money I spent on this one again. It was priced quite high since it is still somewhat hard to find.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.84/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

First had: on tap at Monk's, Philly, PA

Dark brown pour, seemingly opaque in the dim light of the bar, topped with a small, wispy head. Aroma of dark bready malts, fairly roasty, coffee and cocoa, yeast, leather. The taste reflected the aroma, pumpernickel, leather, coffee, unsweetened cocoa, prunes, raisins, slight notes of toffee and leafy hops, and some distant fruity phenols that didn't really seem to add or detract from the taste, they were just there. A nice beer overall, very dry, a little alcohol heat, medium body, nowhere near as full as many of the other "big" names in trappist beer, but still nice and drinkable.

I have a couple bottles of this, and I'd like to cellar at least one to see how it holds up over the years, seeing how it is the first commercially available batch from Stift.

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Photo of CookstLiquor
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 330ml bottle. Pours a beautiful deep mahogany red. This beer has quite a robust nose that's redolent of red wine, cooked fruits and booze. It smells amazingly rich and fruity. The taste is similar, with a lot of sweet fruit notes, caramel malt notes, plenty of booze and a tart, dry finish. Great post-meal sipper.

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Photo of Etan
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Roscoe Village Pub, in conjunction with WLV for Zwanze 2012.

A: Brown with purplish hues.

S: Yeasty aroma with heavy vinous notes. Grape, raisin, brown bread.

T: Grape, bread, hint of booze, candi sugar, slight hop bitterness.

M. Medium-bodied with zesty carbonation.

O. Fits the trappist mold pretty well, especially for a first try.

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Photo of eduardolinhalis
3.82/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle served in a Chimay chalice.

Best before 02.05.2015. Most probably bottled in 2013 (end of 2012, maybe).

A: Pours a dark and bit cloudy brown color. Some small chunks can be seen when it's poured. Forms a solid creamy beige head with low retention and only few lacings left in the glass. However a thin layer remains forever on the top

S: Roasted and very fruity, mainly. Strong notes of dry dark fruits like raisins and plums. Strong roastiness too: notes of coffee. Strong notes of caramel and candy sugar too. Very bready yeast profile, quite belgian-like. Some alcohol but quite mild considering the high ABV

T: Slightly sweet and roasted upfront. Less sweet than expected. Very fruity. Strong notes of caramel and roasted malts. Bubblegum sensation. Very bready yeasts. End is mild bitter and also a bit spicy after all

M: Heavy, creamy and a bit molasses body. Bready bittersweet aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. The Trappist stamp creates some expectations that this beer cannot accomplish. An authentic Belgian Strong Dark Ale, however, a less remarkable Trappist Ale

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
86 out of 100 based on 135 ratings.