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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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BA SCORE
86
very good

277 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 277
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 13.35%


Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012)
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potownbill

New York

1.89/5  rDev -50.5%
look: 1 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I am not sure what happened to this beer, whether it was the dregs of the batch or not, but the bottle was around 50% sediment. I poured it into a tulip glass, and it clugged like a spoiled bottle of milk. One sip was all I could handle, and the smell was musty. I don't think I am going to try this again, given that it was not cheap, and there are better beers out there.

Serving type: bottle

06-10-2013 12:03:35 | More by potownbill
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71CrazyOtto

Michigan

2.33/5  rDev -39%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Meh. Tasted more like a stout mixed in with some bad sugar. Boozy burn, a big disappointment coming from a Trappist label brewer.

These Austrian monks should brew German style beer and leave the Belgian styles to the master Trappist that actually reside within Belgium or at least near the border.

What brewer gets the Authentic Trappist label next some western Russian monks, sigh.

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2013 04:00:37 | More by 71CrazyOtto
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PDXHops

South Carolina

2.63/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 ounce bottle poured into a St Bernardus goblet. Deep hazy brown with an initially puffy cream-colored head that dies down disappointingly quickly. A bubbly skim clings tenaciously, and a bit of crackly lacing is left up top.

The chief aromas are bready malt and a pronounced woody character that seems out of place, although not altogether unpleasant. Lighter medicinal, dark fruit and leafy notes.

Tastes a bit messy and disjointed. Perhaps some aging would help smooth things out. At this point, though, it's a mishmash of massive candi sugar and dark corn syrup sweetness coupled with a somewhat artificial tasting tangy fruitiness and a ton of alcohol. Just big and boozy vs warming. Milk chocolate, vinous, sugary, woody, cherry pie filling. A lot going on here. It's kind of a mess, truthfully, although I suspect it might be a pleasantly surprising cellar experiment. Pretty nice coating mouthfeel. I find myself unusually intrigued by a mediocre beer.

Serving type: bottle

01-18-2013 00:22:14 | More by PDXHops
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apintofknowledge

New Jersey

2.93/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours deep chestnut with a medium cream-colored head
Aroma: Herbal, yeast, slightly medicinal, with a hints of smoke and wood (not that I can think of any reason for these to be in there given what I know about the beer)
Mouthfeel: Medium body with a fizzy, effervescent carbonation
Taste: Initially mildly sweet, slightly nutty, into a slightly medicinal and vinegar-like middle, with hints of red wine, sweetened cocoa and plum, finishing in a dry, musty, tart cherry flavor reminiscent of cough syrup. In reading this back it actually tastes a bit better than the flavor notes I make here. Still, all the flavors are somewhat subtle and somewhat muddled, with only a lingering leathery tartness left on my palate.
Overall: Not at all what I was expecting, and not really sure how to categorize this one. Sometimes not fitting within a style or definition is good, but this beer is a bit of an enigma, and I have nothing to really compare it with, but also nothing to truly define it. In the end, I just didn't really love the taste. While Stift Engelszell's other current beer (Benno) is also beyond style boundaries, I quite enjoyed that one. I'm not sure I'd pick this one up again.

Serving type: bottle

01-03-2013 03:53:21 | More by apintofknowledge
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TMoney2591

Illinois

2.98/5  rDev -22%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tumbler at Local Option.

I had to start off with the newest Trappist brewery, didn't I? This stuff pours a clear topaz topped by over a finger of khaki foam. The nose comprises caramel, toffee, stone fruits, fig, and light clove. The taste brings in more of the same, though unfortunately accompanied by some musty apple/white wine grape character throughout. This flavor just ruins everything, literally leaving a bad taste in my mouth. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, it seemed as though the Local Option crew agreed with me that this beer, though well-looked-forward-to, really fell flat on its face, especially with that weird flavor in there (which is exacerbated by the alcohol level). Without any hesitation, this is the worst Trappist beer I've ever had. Hopefully I can try more from this brewery in the future, though (meaning: Engelszell, don't try to be Orval, 'cause this nonsense ain't no Orval, homies!).

Serving type: on-tap

11-30-2012 22:07:09 | More by TMoney2591
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GuyIncognito

Maine

3/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got this bottle from a friend who works at a distributor. I really wanted to like it- 8th trappist beer, from Austria, made with alsatian wine yeast, etc. etc., but it was just a boozy mess. Unimpressive appearance, strong phenols, and lackadaisical finish. At 9.7 abv it packs a punch, but it is a boring, slightly off, punch.

Serving type: bottle

12-25-2012 01:24:55 | More by GuyIncognito
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lynchmob9

California

3.09/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: poured 1/3 bottle ibto tulip glass. Pours dark, chestnut brown. Starts out with quarter-inch sandy colored head which dissappears quickly into nothing but ring around glass.
S: interesting...bacon, figs, brown sugar or molasses, sultana, raisins.
T: anise, dry-roasted grain. White pepper. Burnt rye toast. Chocolate covered sugar cone. Beer version of Underberg.
M: long long lingering finish. I like how it lasts forever however not into overall taste profile.
O: the nose was initially very interesting, and the continuing lingering taste is cool however I don't care for the actual taste that is lingering.

Serving type: bottle

03-17-2013 02:24:43 | More by lynchmob9
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BlackBelt5112203

South Carolina

3.1/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into a chalice at cellar temperature.

L – Cloudy deep brown color with a 1-finger bubbly, creamy tan head. Pretty good retention and nice lacing.

S – Wow there are a lot of medicinal phenols here. Honestly this smells like cherry Robitussin to me. If I try to get past that, I can get some toasted and roasted malts, molasses, chocolate, and cloves.

T – Once again, the cherry Robitussin is there. Again, if I’m looking past this, it starts sweet with caramel malt, molasses, dark cherries, and possibly a bit of chocolate. Medicinal phenols appear quickly along with spicy black pepper and clove yeast notes. Some coffee-like roasted malt appears at the finish.

F – Medium-bodied with decent carbonation, a sticky and mouth-coating feel, and a sweet dark cherry medicinal finish that lasts for a while. Alcohol is slightly noticeable in a throat-warming sensation at the finish.

O – This beer is not great. It’s not so bad if you can get by the Robitussin, but it just takes so much effort to do so. The phenols are just too pervasive in the aroma and flavor. By looking at the current reviews, I only see a couple other people even mention phenols. Maybe others don’t see it or maybe it doesn’t bother them, but it’s too much for me. In my opinion, there are much better Belgian strong dark ales out there.

Serving type: bottle

01-06-2013 03:21:51 | More by BlackBelt5112203
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OneDropSoup

Pennsylvania

3.2/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a stemmed tulip: Dark brown body with just some chestnut highlight around the edges under three fingers of light, glistening cappuccino head.

Smells Christmasy. Mostly fig, some prune, plenty of nutmeg & cinnamon-like spice character, a sharply rum-like note (sugary without the booze), banana, slight mustiness.

First sip yields some molasses, a bite like plum skin, some baking spice. There's a dryness in the finish that's kind of husky & meaty, papery, a little boozy. That character grows with each sip & kind of gets unpleasant. I've tasted it in some of my dark homebrews, not sure if it's from the dark malts or a product of the honey or what. It subsides a bit in subsequent sips but never totally goes away. Other pleasant tastes emerge, too, like orange & a little pear, but that rough taste never quite goes away.

Full-bodied, but sort of sticky & astringent, coats the mouth with a little of that husky feel.

I think this would get more of a pass if it weren't a Trappist, but really has some rough spots to work out. I can definitely see potential there, & what's good is really good.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2013 01:30:05 | More by OneDropSoup
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ciderguy

Pennsylvania

3.24/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle purchased from Beer Planet in Brussels - Was really excited to give this one a try. Pour was just as I hoped it would be, nice and dark and full rocky head. Nose was crazy complex, strong aroma of smoke (if not charring), as well as dark bitter chocolate and black coffee. Good, full mouth feel but just as the nose suggested strong smokey rauch flavor. Almost burnt taste. Taste changed little as the beer slowly warmed. Not bad, but not great either. I would argue the Austrians still have a thing or twto to learn from the Belgians.

Serving type: bottle

02-24-2013 03:08:57 | More by ciderguy
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janubio

Spain

3.24/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

330 ml. bottle. Dark brown colour, off white head, not big and not much retention. Smell of figs or raisins, fennel, clove and some cinnamon. Astringent palate, with some medicinal flavor. Light to medium body. Taste ia acid, fennel, cherries and chocolate. A bit messy, not really one of the best trappist I've tasted. I'll to keep one bottle aging and try again.

Serving type: bottle

03-11-2013 23:04:54 | More by janubio
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mxchap

California

3.25/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Medium dark brown color. Poured in a 15cL glass, so no comment(s) on head/retention.
Aroma: Candied fruits (prunes and cherries). Chocolate and caramel malt.
Taste: Bready / malty with spices and some hot alcohol. The finishing flavor of this beer is quite odd and frankly makes the beer sub-par. The candied fruit flavor smacks your tongue at the end with such force. It's almost like a sweet red wine.
Mouthfeel: Strong, alcohol noticeable. Sticky at the finish. Light-medium carbonation.
Overall: A weird beer, but it does have some redeeming qualities (notably aroma and mouthfeel). The fermentation procedures and quantity of adjuncts do not seem to be typical. However, this beer does have a lot of potential.

Serving type: on-tap

12-02-2012 04:35:48 | More by mxchap
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jtierney89

New Jersey

3.3/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

deep semi murky brown fluffy off white head that dies rather quickly. smells nutty rich and earthy smells sweet musty and woody.

tastes a lot like the smell. a bit medicinal and booze, very musty semi vinious but not like a good wine. drinkable and good but I'm not sure if it's up to trappist standards

Serving type: bottle

01-14-2013 05:11:54 | More by jtierney89
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popery

California

3.38/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Pours a deep, rich brown. Thick beige head. Sticks around well. Very good looking beer. Unfortunately, the rest of the beer didn't live up to that appearance for me. The aroma is a mix of medicinal yeast and toasty malt notes. Little bit of nail polish remover and wood. The malt has some nice things going on - toffee, dates, plums, caramel, bread and molasses - but it's still kinda simple. There's just too much sweetness mixing with those medicinal Belgian esters, and it doesn't really work. The taste is quite sweet. Somewhat cloying. Oddly vinous and still fairly toasty. It's kind of a mess. Fair bit of booze. Fairly heavy feel. Coats the mouth more than I'd like, but that might be more a flavor issue than feel. Carbonation is normal. This was a disappointment. I was pretty excited to find this beer and try a new Trappist brewery, but it's just not very good.

Serving type: bottle

03-05-2013 09:01:40 | More by popery
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RCane1

California

3.41/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

"Product of Austria" gave me pause and "Brewed with Honey", induced a slight frown. Both were justified. This seems like two beers carefully mixed to create the illusion of Belgian Trappist complexity. The first beer is a very strong, dark, slightly bitter ale. The second is a sweet honey ale that counteracts the bitterness of the first. Nevertheless, the effect is a decent and drinkable brew.

Very, very dark head with an acceptable head. Smells malty and sweet. Strong flavor, slightly bitter on the back of the throat, slightly sweet on the tongue. Decent in the mouth.

Serving type: bottle

07-10-2013 01:00:44 | More by RCane1
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bmwats

Louisiana

3.43/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 33 cl bottle into a chalice.

A: Dark brown. Pours a half finger, bubbly, brown head. Dissipates quickly. Fair beer ring lacing.

S: Roasted coffee, raisin, plum, dark chocolate, and tea leaf.

T: Sweet raisin, bitter pecan, and pungent tea leaf, accentuate a rye bread malt.

M: Thick and syrupy. Sweet, hot, and boozy feeling.

D: Sip and enjoy.

Atmosphere is pretty good. Slight bubbly head and some fair lacing. Sweet fruity components mostly overshadow the light roasty, chocolate, and earthy flora components. As in the nose, sweet fruity components are the most prominent characteristics, pungency and light bitterness are also present. A little hot and boozy. Overall, this is a pretty good quaff.

Serving type: bottle

01-21-2014 05:09:47 | More by bmwats
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roblowther

Texas

3.49/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Woody for the brew. This looks like the stuff. An almost black brown with a very minimal creamy tan head. Smells of raspberries, cherries, and pipe tobacco (I only know because of my Pop and do not condone said products. Blech.) The taste has a lot going on, grapes, cloves, that tobacco thing, and something that tastes like plants smell. I know that's vague, but this review is free, so you get what you pay for. Mouthfeel is slippery and carbonated in a very controlled way. Overall, I don't like this beer quite as much as I want to. It has potential, but the taste just doesn't quite pull things together the way I'd hoped. Still. You won't go wrong. Especially if Woody is keeping you supplied.

Serving type: bottle

08-14-2013 00:45:18 | More by roblowther
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JohnGalt1

Idaho

3.5/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle picked up at the COOP tonight for about $6... Poured into my HotD goblet and received a short lasting tan head with little to no lacing... the brew is hazy dark walnut... Looked like quite a bit of yeast/sediment got into the glass during the pour before I noticed.

Nose shows earthy dark maltiness with little in the way of traditional esters or phenols.. mainly just dark malt with a subtle kiss of malt sweetness... does not smell "malty" though if that makes sense.

Flavor is dominated by again sorta dry dark malt essence... a bit of sweetness reminds me of a musky mead... dry dusty, sorta nutty dark malt on the finish.

Okay carbonation and body.. but both seem a little muddy.

Better than average certainly, but I guess I was hoping for more.

3.5's across the board.

Serving type: bottle

11-07-2013 06:25:15 | More by JohnGalt1
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bsp77

Minnesota

3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Chocolate brown with decent tan head.

Smell: Loads of dark fruit, slightly sickly, and some Belgian spiciness.

Taste: Very sweet with plum, raisin, dates and cherry. Some spice notes, with a touch of honey.

Feel: Low carbonation with a sticky body. Finish has some drier mead characteristics but not quite enough.

Overall: Okay Belgian Strong Ale. Simply too sweet and ripe. I prefer their Benno beer by a wide margin, which is some kind of Saison/BPA/Braggot concoction.

Serving type: bottle

07-26-2013 04:04:51 | More by bsp77
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artoolemomo

Oregon

3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours up about a finger's worth of head which looks to have some retention. The body is light and creamy beige while the body is a muddy chestnut brown which shows dull maroon at the bottom of the glass when it is held up to the light. It would appear that the pour was not finished as the head actually increased a bit. The retention is excellent and it appears I will be waiting a few minutes. Some lacing is left behind.

Nose- Not exactly the most enticing aroma at the moment. Burnt raisin which is almost medicinal with some hints of licorice. Roasted malt notes as well. The nose is perkier from the glass and has strong roasted and coffee notes. The less than enticing aromas from the glass begin to mellow and show molasses and brown sugar. Some caramel.

Taste- Burnt raisin along with the same medicinal notes of the nose. Some saccharine cherry notes. Lots of licorice rises in the middle with a little bit of burnt chocolate/coffee finish. At the moment, this beer is not very palatable and shows poor integration. Faint indication of alcohol with a spicy tingle left on the tongue. Some clove. Some brown sugar and molasses but the sweetness of this beer is a little too much. Roasted malt notes as well. Fortunately, some of the licorice and medicinal aspects have faded but it many not be enough to save this beer. The roasted notes start to dominate and the cloying sweetness does not fade. Some honey. Lots of figs, raisins, and dates but they are far too sweet. This probably could use some age but the initial impression does not make me want to get a bottle to age. Brown bread is present in the flavor profile as well. Some spiciness in addition to clove such as nutmeg and cinnamon.

Mouthfeel- Medium to heavy bodied with some syrup to the texture. Somewhat vinuous.

Drinkability- Way too sweet for me but hides the 9.7% alcohol pretty well. And at 6 bucks a bottle, it's a little pricey when you could just pick up a Rochefort.

Overall- It's not a bad beer; it just doesn't work with my palate. It's worth giving a try, especially if you like sweet beers. Or if you don't- buy a bottle and let it sit. Maybe it will mellow out.

Later notes: This does mellow and the sweetness does become bearable. Notes of oak show themselves. I have changed my scores accordingly.

Serving type: bottle

08-03-2013 03:17:14 | More by artoolemomo
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mattsander

Alberta (Canada)

3.55/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: Murky brown with chestnut edges, tiny bubbles and a wisp of head.

S: Clovey/peppery/spicy, a bit of sour cherry, sweet dark malt... unique in the trappist dark beers.

T: Very spicy with an interesting malt flavor. The finish is tangy and herbal, its kind of an odd beer.

Has the appearance and body of a great dark trappist beer, but lacks the candy sugar / yeast balance I love in this style.

Serving type: bottle

04-06-2013 04:48:23 | More by mattsander
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Tone

Missouri

3.56/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours a black color. 1/4 inch head of an off-tan color. Slight retention and slight lacing. Smells of sweet malt, alcohol, slight roasted malt, hint of hops, and a hint of spices. Fits the style of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. Mouth feel is smooth and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of alcohol, sweet malt, hint of roasted malt, caramel malt, hint of pale malt, and a hint of syrup. Overall, the body is not reminiscent of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale, but more closely resembles a Doppelbock in flavor.

Serving type: on-tap

06-25-2013 13:06:01 | More by Tone
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seand

California

3.63/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Mine was a crazy gusher. I had a glass ready, but I wasn't expecting it and it was so quick that I lost half the beer, maybe more, even though I had a glass ready.

A: The beer the I did manage to get into a glass is a dark brown, with not too much head left besides some surface film and a ring around the rim, which leaves spotty lacing.

S: Densely sweet molasses and licorice.

T: Very dense molasses and roasted malt to start, becoming drier and roastier towards the finish. There's a lot going on towards the beginning especially, where the flavor is very densely packed.

M: Full body, medium but quite prickly carbonation.

Overall, not bad. I'm not super impressed, either, though my first impression of cleaning up half the beer from my counter and seeing only the other half in my glass likely did not help. I may have gotten a weird bottle, though.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2013 04:29:53 | More by seand
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smcolw

Massachusetts

3.64/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3.5

Solid brown color and very cloudy. Strong initial head, but it settles quickly to a single layer of bubbles. Some spotty lace.

Burnt sugar and dark caramel are the first smells I detect. I also sense large pit fruit like plum and apricot.

Semi-sweet--that is to say it is less sweet than the caramel smell. It's also less burnt than the nose. The body is relatively thin. Strong darker (chocolate or dark crystal) malt flavor. Very warming from the bountiful alcohol level. The swallow enhances this and has an essence of cherry brandy. High carbonation level.

Very flavorful, but not really balanced. The mouthfeel is closer to soda than most beers.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2013 00:49:03 | More by smcolw
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Dennoman

Belgium

3.65/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Ah, the (in)famous eigth trappist beer. Let's see what all the fuss is about, shall we?

2012 bottle, 33 cl. Didn't as much gush when opened, but kept frothing up significantly. Took five minutes to pour.

A: Poured with the yeast, as I always do, this looks like a latté. Pours a murky, creamy brown with a massive beige head. Head disappates to a half finger in ten minutes or so. Fairly appealing, but strange color.

S: Burnt toast and yeasty aroma, something slightly acidic resembling fresh coffee bean roast, even though there's no coffee in here. Roasted malts I'm guessing. No hops to speak of.

T: Roasty onset, smooth middle and a roasty bitter finish. Not very complex, but roastier than any of the other trappists. This leans more towards the stout spectrum of things. Slight booze undercurrent.

M: Creamy, smooth, almost powdery and dry finish. This is one of those beers that MAKE you thirsty. Not great, but befitting the style I guess.

O: Definitely one of the better trappists, but so unusual it's hard to brand it as thus. Nice roastiness that's reminiscent of a decent stout, but it's mostly the muddy brown color and strange powdery mouthfeel that just don't do it for me. Would recommend and drink if given to me, but not likely buy again until it drops in price here, which is likely to happen in the next few years.

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2012 19:29:38 | More by Dennoman
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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
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