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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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BA SCORE
86
very good

347 Ratings
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Ratings: 347
Reviews: 101
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 12.83%
Wants: 26
Gots: 30 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012)
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1/5  rDev -73.8%

J_Ferraro, Feb 20, 2013
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1/5  rDev -73.8%

rkistner, Dec 26, 2012
Photo of potownbill
1.89/5  rDev -50.5%
look: 1 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I am not sure what happened to this beer, whether it was the dregs of the batch or not, but the bottle was around 50% sediment. I poured it into a tulip glass, and it clugged like a spoiled bottle of milk. One sip was all I could handle, and the smell was musty. I don't think I am going to try this again, given that it was not cheap, and there are better beers out there.

potownbill, Jun 10, 2013
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2/5  rDev -47.6%

KevinGordon, Jul 13, 2014
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2/5  rDev -47.6%

djrn2, May 18, 2013
Photo of acurtis
2.25/5  rDev -41.1%

acurtis, May 18, 2013
Photo of danielfda
2.25/5  rDev -41.1%

danielfda, Jan 26, 2014
Photo of 71CrazyOtto
2.33/5  rDev -39%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Meh. Tasted more like a stout mixed in with some bad sugar. Boozy burn, a big disappointment coming from a Trappist label brewer.

These Austrian monks should brew German style beer and leave the Belgian styles to the master Trappist that actually reside within Belgium or at least near the border.

What brewer gets the Authentic Trappist label next some western Russian monks, sigh.

71CrazyOtto, Sep 14, 2013
Photo of PDXHops
2.63/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 ounce bottle poured into a St Bernardus goblet. Deep hazy brown with an initially puffy cream-colored head that dies down disappointingly quickly. A bubbly skim clings tenaciously, and a bit of crackly lacing is left up top.

The chief aromas are bready malt and a pronounced woody character that seems out of place, although not altogether unpleasant. Lighter medicinal, dark fruit and leafy notes.

Tastes a bit messy and disjointed. Perhaps some aging would help smooth things out. At this point, though, it's a mishmash of massive candi sugar and dark corn syrup sweetness coupled with a somewhat artificial tasting tangy fruitiness and a ton of alcohol. Just big and boozy vs warming. Milk chocolate, vinous, sugary, woody, cherry pie filling. A lot going on here. It's kind of a mess, truthfully, although I suspect it might be a pleasantly surprising cellar experiment. Pretty nice coating mouthfeel. I find myself unusually intrigued by a mediocre beer.

PDXHops, Jan 18, 2013
Photo of ZethOfTheNorth
2.75/5  rDev -28%

ZethOfTheNorth, Dec 11, 2012
Photo of apintofknowledge
2.93/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours deep chestnut with a medium cream-colored head
Aroma: Herbal, yeast, slightly medicinal, with a hints of smoke and wood (not that I can think of any reason for these to be in there given what I know about the beer)
Mouthfeel: Medium body with a fizzy, effervescent carbonation
Taste: Initially mildly sweet, slightly nutty, into a slightly medicinal and vinegar-like middle, with hints of red wine, sweetened cocoa and plum, finishing in a dry, musty, tart cherry flavor reminiscent of cough syrup. In reading this back it actually tastes a bit better than the flavor notes I make here. Still, all the flavors are somewhat subtle and somewhat muddled, with only a lingering leathery tartness left on my palate.
Overall: Not at all what I was expecting, and not really sure how to categorize this one. Sometimes not fitting within a style or definition is good, but this beer is a bit of an enigma, and I have nothing to really compare it with, but also nothing to truly define it. In the end, I just didn't really love the taste. While Stift Engelszell's other current beer (Benno) is also beyond style boundaries, I quite enjoyed that one. I'm not sure I'd pick this one up again.

apintofknowledge, Jan 03, 2013
Photo of TMoney2591
2.98/5  rDev -22%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tumbler at Local Option.

I had to start off with the newest Trappist brewery, didn't I? This stuff pours a clear topaz topped by over a finger of khaki foam. The nose comprises caramel, toffee, stone fruits, fig, and light clove. The taste brings in more of the same, though unfortunately accompanied by some musty apple/white wine grape character throughout. This flavor just ruins everything, literally leaving a bad taste in my mouth. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, it seemed as though the Local Option crew agreed with me that this beer, though well-looked-forward-to, really fell flat on its face, especially with that weird flavor in there (which is exacerbated by the alcohol level). Without any hesitation, this is the worst Trappist beer I've ever had. Hopefully I can try more from this brewery in the future, though (meaning: Engelszell, don't try to be Orval, 'cause this nonsense ain't no Orval, homies!).

TMoney2591, Nov 30, 2012
Photo of GuyIncognito
3/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got this bottle from a friend who works at a distributor. I really wanted to like it- 8th trappist beer, from Austria, made with alsatian wine yeast, etc. etc., but it was just a boozy mess. Unimpressive appearance, strong phenols, and lackadaisical finish. At 9.7 abv it packs a punch, but it is a boring, slightly off, punch.

GuyIncognito, Dec 25, 2012
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3/5  rDev -21.5%

DerekMorgan, Jun 19, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.5%

pecokid, May 23, 2014
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3/5  rDev -21.5%

Soneast, Jul 27, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.5%

Jordenfay, Aug 12, 2014
Photo of lynchmob9
3.09/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: poured 1/3 bottle ibto tulip glass. Pours dark, chestnut brown. Starts out with quarter-inch sandy colored head which dissappears quickly into nothing but ring around glass.
S: interesting...bacon, figs, brown sugar or molasses, sultana, raisins.
T: anise, dry-roasted grain. White pepper. Burnt rye toast. Chocolate covered sugar cone. Beer version of Underberg.
M: long long lingering finish. I like how it lasts forever however not into overall taste profile.
O: the nose was initially very interesting, and the continuing lingering taste is cool however I don't care for the actual taste that is lingering.

lynchmob9, Mar 17, 2013
Photo of BlackBelt5112203
3.1/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into a chalice at cellar temperature.

L – Cloudy deep brown color with a 1-finger bubbly, creamy tan head. Pretty good retention and nice lacing.

S – Wow there are a lot of medicinal phenols here. Honestly this smells like cherry Robitussin to me. If I try to get past that, I can get some toasted and roasted malts, molasses, chocolate, and cloves.

T – Once again, the cherry Robitussin is there. Again, if I’m looking past this, it starts sweet with caramel malt, molasses, dark cherries, and possibly a bit of chocolate. Medicinal phenols appear quickly along with spicy black pepper and clove yeast notes. Some coffee-like roasted malt appears at the finish.

F – Medium-bodied with decent carbonation, a sticky and mouth-coating feel, and a sweet dark cherry medicinal finish that lasts for a while. Alcohol is slightly noticeable in a throat-warming sensation at the finish.

O – This beer is not great. It’s not so bad if you can get by the Robitussin, but it just takes so much effort to do so. The phenols are just too pervasive in the aroma and flavor. By looking at the current reviews, I only see a couple other people even mention phenols. Maybe others don’t see it or maybe it doesn’t bother them, but it’s too much for me. In my opinion, there are much better Belgian strong dark ales out there.

BlackBelt5112203, Jan 06, 2013
Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.15/5  rDev -17.5%

A 330ml bottle with a BB of June 2014, so it's a bit out of date. Acquired ages ago from Trembling Madness in York and stashed away. I'm hoping age will have improved it. The ingredient list mentions honey....

A: Poured into a Duvel tulip. Bottle conditioned - this contains a vast amount of slimy sediment that looks like snot (perhaps 10-15%). Rather unappetising to put it mildly, and not what I want to see in an expensive brew. A dark brown hue that appears virtually black in the glass. Holding it to the light reveals plenty of floating chunks that I take to be yeast. Yields a small head of beige foam that disappears rapidly. Quite disgusting.

S: Aroma of sweet, fruity malt with hints of prunes, raisins, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, marzipan, subtle yeast esters and a touch of stewed leaves. A warming whiff of booze in the background.

T: Tastes of sweet, fruity malt that borders on cloying, with a subtle bitter finish. Notes of prunes, dried fruit, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, faint marzipan, stewed leaves, harsh cardboard and fruity yeast esters. A touch of solventy alcohol in the background. Quite sweet, followed by a restrained, herbal bitterness upon swallowing.

M: Mouthfeel is smooth and tingly, with effervescent carbonation and good body. A slightly harsh quality on the palate. Somewhat astringent, accompanied by an aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt, stewed leaves and acrid cardboard.

O: Disappointing; particularly the gunk in the bottle. Unpleasant looks, while the aroma and flavour are rich and sweet with harsh undertones. Body is OK. It resembles a quad but hasn't aged as well as I might have wished. Fruity but plagued by off-notes and generally unsatisfying. Perhaps this is just a bad bottle - the potential is certainly there. I may re-review if I get the chance. That said - caveat emptor.

jazzyjeff13, Aug 30, 2014
Photo of OneDropSoup
3.2/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a stemmed tulip: Dark brown body with just some chestnut highlight around the edges under three fingers of light, glistening cappuccino head.

Smells Christmasy. Mostly fig, some prune, plenty of nutmeg & cinnamon-like spice character, a sharply rum-like note (sugary without the booze), banana, slight mustiness.

First sip yields some molasses, a bite like plum skin, some baking spice. There's a dryness in the finish that's kind of husky & meaty, papery, a little boozy. That character grows with each sip & kind of gets unpleasant. I've tasted it in some of my dark homebrews, not sure if it's from the dark malts or a product of the honey or what. It subsides a bit in subsequent sips but never totally goes away. Other pleasant tastes emerge, too, like orange & a little pear, but that rough taste never quite goes away.

Full-bodied, but sort of sticky & astringent, coats the mouth with a little of that husky feel.

I think this would get more of a pass if it weren't a Trappist, but really has some rough spots to work out. I can definitely see potential there, & what's good is really good.

OneDropSoup, Jun 29, 2013
Photo of ciderguy
3.24/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle purchased from Beer Planet in Brussels - Was really excited to give this one a try. Pour was just as I hoped it would be, nice and dark and full rocky head. Nose was crazy complex, strong aroma of smoke (if not charring), as well as dark bitter chocolate and black coffee. Good, full mouth feel but just as the nose suggested strong smokey rauch flavor. Almost burnt taste. Taste changed little as the beer slowly warmed. Not bad, but not great either. I would argue the Austrians still have a thing or twto to learn from the Belgians.

ciderguy, Feb 24, 2013
Photo of janubio
3.24/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

330 ml. bottle. Dark brown colour, off white head, not big and not much retention. Smell of figs or raisins, fennel, clove and some cinnamon. Astringent palate, with some medicinal flavor. Light to medium body. Taste ia acid, fennel, cherries and chocolate. A bit messy, not really one of the best trappist I've tasted. I'll to keep one bottle aging and try again.

janubio, Mar 11, 2013
Photo of Dawkins
3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

Dawkins, Sep 21, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

n2185, Nov 12, 2012
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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
86 out of 100 based on 347 ratings.