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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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Reviews: 135
Hads: 486
Avg: 3.81
pDev: 23.88%
Wants: 39
Gots: 79 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell
Austria | website

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale | 9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of Ciocanelu
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Very dark amber color with beige head. Aroma has a lot of dark sugar and plums. Taste follows with dark fruits and yeasty spiciness. Leans just a bit to the sweet side but overall it's quite balanced. Medium-full body and medium-high carbonation. Overall it's a good beer but nothing really special.

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Photo of patre_tim
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

A: Dark brown, cloudy with a barrage of fine bubbles rising within the middle of the chalice. Topped with 2 fingers of creamy beige, foamy head. Sticky gelatinous lacing as I swirl the glass.


S: Cherries, raisins, it’s a lot like a cherry coke. Dark fruits and cherries, light floral notes. Cherries and raisins sums up the scent.


T: Cherries, raisins, dark fruits, some dried figs, snow, light sweetness, and a light acidic quality. Alcohol is hidden, but shows on the throat and back of the tongue. It has this sort of leather, tannic acid quality that is somewhat sour, like fermented milk.


M: Thick body with very foamy carbonation. It reminds me of powdered rock candy or a self foaming tablet in the mouth. It seems to continue to foam on entry.


O: So thrilled to have found this at Bruisin Ales in Asheville. A year and a half earlier, a misinformed tour guide at a brewery told me that beer from this brewery was only likely to available in the next 5 years by going to Europe. Never saw it in Belgium. Thrilled to have seen it at least in two places in the US recently. Drinking this one in my Orval chalice in Kunming, China as my 1000th beer reviewed on Beeradvocate.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Brewed in 2012.

Pours a murky brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of malt, honey, dark fruit, and some earthy hop aromas. Taste is much the same with toasted bread and fruity flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer but it's much more earthy and slightly rough compared to how I thought it would be.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.76/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from The Birch in Norfolk, Virginia. Served in a cervoise.

Pours a dark chestnut brown with a lasting off-white head. Nice lacing on the sides of the glass and a cap throughout.

The nose starts with some toffee, honey, bread, earth, and a somewhat-woody note. Molasses, brown sugar, and a touch of clove. Slight date character. There's also something in the background that's slightly reminiscent of root beer. Sassafras, maybe? All in all, pretty well integrated and fairly intriguing.

Flavor has a nice honey component alongside some bread and light caramel. Molasses with notes of clove in the background. Not terribly fruity. Dry and toasty.

Medium body and a fairly-dry finish. Ever so slightly astringent. Moderate carbonation.

Overall, very interesting and certainly unique for a Trappist beer. The honey and molasses notes were interesting, with slight spice through the background. I'm looking forward to seeing how this beer/recipe develops over time.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.77/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

What was once briefly the newest Trappist brewery in the world had yet to cross my path, so I thought it was high time to give it a whirl. These guys are from Austria, the first Trappist brewery from that country (and first outside Belgium or the Netherlands). Since they were officially certified, a new Trappist brewery has been certified in, of all places, the USA. This was a 33cl brown bottle purchased from Oak Barrel in Sydney.

Pours a rather murky and opaque deep amber hue, with an initially over-carbonated and fizzy head of off-brown that turns into a fairly fine ring. Lots of persistent carbonation runs in tight streams up the side of the glass. No lacing. It looks okay. No more than than though.

Nose is oddly spicy: juniper and black pepper come through, with a slight medicinal overtone and aromas of marshmallow and dust. Slight sweetness as it warms gives some cherry aromas as well. It's certainly interesting.

Taste is actually pretty solid. Firm sweetness throughout, tucked in by a slight medicinal astringency that allows those spicy aromatic characters to come through a bit more. Hint of marzipan and acetone on the back linger a little bit longer than necessary, probably aided by a slightly too prominent booze note. That being said, for 9.7%, the booze is pretty well hidden, and the body still stays quite light and fluid, in the best tradition of a big Belgian style ale.

Overall, this is solid stuff, albeit not up with the best examples. It's fairly well constructed, and has some interest and complexity to it. Something I'll certainly revisit at some point.

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.77/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Murky, reddish brown (SRM 25). A beige, half-inch layer of fine foam settles to a thin blanket, leaving patchy lace behind. Light viscosity and tiny streaming carbonation is visible within the Rochefort chalice.

Quite sweet with candy sugar, sugar plums, light molasses, and possibly honey and clove.

The flavor is every bit as sweet as the nose had suggested. Plums and fresh pumpernickel give way to fruit juice with a sweet malty middle and a sweet finish.

Syrupy texture with a medium to full body punctuated by ample, fine carbonation. The alcohol is controlled, while residual sugar coats the palate and lips.

While more sweet than my impression of this style would anticipate, Gregorius is enjoyable. Lacking layers and complexity expected of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale, this could be considered an entry level, after-work, relaxing beer.

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Photo of notchucknorris
3.79/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: Deep ruddy brown color with a one finger tan head. Lots of sediment suspended in the bottom of the glass. Almost looks like chia seeds in there.

S: Rich dark fruit notes with some bubblegum, Belgian yeast, brown sugar, dates and honey.

T: Lots of dark fruit and yeast upfront. Slight hint of spice, plum, chalky yeast and a hint of banana bread and chocolate.

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Photo of patra7
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Served in a big wine glass.
Appearance: Light beige, 1-finger tall, head; Brown/red color.
Smell: Blue cheese, alcohol, molasses, hints of roastiness
Taste: Malty, hints of blue cheese
Mouthfeel: Thin body, slick texture, a bit oily
Drinkability: Very interesting, complex and pleasant. The high alcohol content starts to strike you after the first half.

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Photo of jmasher85
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Less desserty than it's Benno counterpart, but also fairly malty and sweet. Burnt, caramelized prunes here, with a peculiar bitter finish and a lot of strength and richness, from the alcohol and the heavy malts.

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Photo of puboflyons
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

From the 11.2 fl. oz. bottle that is stamped "Brewed in Year 2012/11." Sampled on May 20, 2013.

It pours dark brown with a lingering mocha head and a slight cloudy look. Decent lacing.

The honey with which it is brewed does introduce itself in a low profile sort of way after I get over the boozy hump. It evolves into something sweet. Also noted on the nose is coffee and dark fruit like cherry or currant.

The body is pretty bold.

The honey is a little difficult to find in the flavor. Instead my taste buds are teased with dark malts, cherry, licorice, coffee, and a slightly lingering bitterness at the end. There are some characteristics that I like about this one.

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Photo of eduardolinhalis
3.82/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle served in a Chimay chalice.

Best before 02.05.2015. Most probably bottled in 2013 (end of 2012, maybe).

A: Pours a dark and bit cloudy brown color. Some small chunks can be seen when it's poured. Forms a solid creamy beige head with low retention and only few lacings left in the glass. However a thin layer remains forever on the top

S: Roasted and very fruity, mainly. Strong notes of dry dark fruits like raisins and plums. Strong roastiness too: notes of coffee. Strong notes of caramel and candy sugar too. Very bready yeast profile, quite belgian-like. Some alcohol but quite mild considering the high ABV

T: Slightly sweet and roasted upfront. Less sweet than expected. Very fruity. Strong notes of caramel and roasted malts. Bubblegum sensation. Very bready yeasts. End is mild bitter and also a bit spicy after all

M: Heavy, creamy and a bit molasses body. Bready bittersweet aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. The Trappist stamp creates some expectations that this beer cannot accomplish. An authentic Belgian Strong Dark Ale, however, a less remarkable Trappist Ale

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Photo of CookstLiquor
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 330ml bottle. Pours a beautiful deep mahogany red. This beer has quite a robust nose that's redolent of red wine, cooked fruits and booze. It smells amazingly rich and fruity. The taste is similar, with a lot of sweet fruit notes, caramel malt notes, plenty of booze and a tart, dry finish. Great post-meal sipper.

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Photo of Etan
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Roscoe Village Pub, in conjunction with WLV for Zwanze 2012.

A: Brown with purplish hues.

S: Yeasty aroma with heavy vinous notes. Grape, raisin, brown bread.

T: Grape, bread, hint of booze, candi sugar, slight hop bitterness.

M. Medium-bodied with zesty carbonation.

O. Fits the trappist mold pretty well, especially for a first try.

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Photo of boss302
3.84/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A- Brown hazy, big head, looked like a typical Dubbel.

S- sweetish carmelly aroma, a slight candy also, not much else, clean no mustiness.

T- had the flavor of a Dubbel with Carmel malt tones and some sweetness,
but lacked character. This could have been any abbey double and nothing really identified it as unique. It certainly doesn't stand out as a elite 1 of 8 Trappists, but does hold up as a good Dubbel.

M- typical Belgian dark, good malty thickness and head retention.

O- I will try this on draft and see if it is different, but would think twice about spending the large amount of money I spent on this one again. It was priced quite high since it is still somewhat hard to find.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.84/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

First had: on tap at Monk's, Philly, PA

Dark brown pour, seemingly opaque in the dim light of the bar, topped with a small, wispy head. Aroma of dark bready malts, fairly roasty, coffee and cocoa, yeast, leather. The taste reflected the aroma, pumpernickel, leather, coffee, unsweetened cocoa, prunes, raisins, slight notes of toffee and leafy hops, and some distant fruity phenols that didn't really seem to add or detract from the taste, they were just there. A nice beer overall, very dry, a little alcohol heat, medium body, nowhere near as full as many of the other "big" names in trappist beer, but still nice and drinkable.

I have a couple bottles of this, and I'd like to cellar at least one to see how it holds up over the years, seeing how it is the first commercially available batch from Stift.

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Photo of bskrtz
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Served cold in glass beer challis.

A) Dense, dark milk chocolate. Suspended fine carbonation with yeasties floating about. Missing the billowy off-white head. Other than that, looks like a classic Belgian Brune

S) Deliciously sweet sour mash. Mild esthers, sour dough, baked apple pie

T) Sweet cooked caramel malts dominate. Stewed dark fruit, figs, raisons. Very complex.

M) Sticky but smooth. This bottle was lacking in carbonation, hence a bit flat. Without proper transport and storage, it may not be the beer. However its a bit flat no matter who's fault

O) A good example of the Trappist Belgian Brune

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Photo of Pencible
3.87/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark mahogany with a little light tan head.
S: It smelled like toffee and raisin bread and nutty malt, with some fresh wheat and leathery malt.
T: It tasted like pumpernickel bread and earthy barley and copper hops, with a little date and wild honey. It had a clean bitter aftertaste.
M: It was somewhat thick with moderate carbonation. Decent body.
D: This was a nicer beer than Benno, but still not an impressive quad. The scent was great, but the taste was more like a brown ale. The body was ok, and the finish was reasonably smooth, so it wasn't difficult to drink. Would probably benefit from some time in the cellar. Decent fresh, but nothing special.

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Photo of Brabander
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I got this bottle (in a sixpack) from a Dutch guy who went to the abbey in the time the first batch was sold. I gave away five of the six bottles and the sixt was saved for a special occasion.

I was in Austria last week and i decided to take back the bottle to it's country of origin. Drank the bottle in the lovely village of Neustift in the Strubai valley together with an American Facebook friend who was there @ the same time.

Poured out of the bottle into a wine glass, did not have the appropiate glassware with me. Nice head but not spectacular. The smell is normal with a bit caramellic malts in the nose. Taste is not very spectacular when you compare this one with other Trappists.

Glad i got to try this one and that's it!

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Photo of LiquidCucumber
3.91/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle dated 11/2012

Pours very dark brown/purple with about a half finger of head. The lacing seems to cling fairly well, so I will give them that. The aroma comes off as very earthy almost chocolatey and the typical BSDA fruit flavors are muted. There is definitely a lot of fruit here compared to other beers, but for the style, I don't think I've smelled anything like it. The flavor it a bit more typical, but I think this beer is trying to do its own thing. I've got lots of cherry and bit of fig, but that dark earth also really comes through due to the dryness of this brew. It's quite a bit different than its Trappist brethren, but that is quite alright. It also is a little untamed, as in hot. After the monks perfect their brewing arts in the coming years [I assume they are getting help from the other Trappists], we will have a world-class beer here.

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Photo of fishdoc
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Lizardville in Bedford Heights, Ohio.

Appearance: Amber, very cloudy, but the bartender said it has been clearing since it was tapped moments before I was served. Small white head, little to no lacing.

Smell: Complex, sweet yet spicy, hint of roses.

Taste: Candy sugar is first, almost to excess. Then comes bitter chocolate with a very dry finish.

Mouthfeel: Lower carbonation than an abbey style, but appropriate for a Trappist.

Overall: Quite different from the other Trappist ales I have had. It will be on the World Tour at the Winking Lizard in 2013 and I look forward to a second look.

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Photo of dcmchew
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Newest addition to the "Trappist beer order", so it's my chance to find out if it was only a commercial move, or if it really deserves the small stamp on the label (quality-wise).
Starts foaming right after popping the cap. Pours dark brown, almost one finger tan head, nice retention, turns into a thin foamy cap, sticky lacing.
Smell of figs, plums, caramel, toffee, chocolate, soy sauce, honeycomb and a bit of Belgian spiciness.
Very juicy dark fruit up front (raisin, fig, plum, dark grape), a bit musty, mixed with burnt sugar, a bit of lemon zest, some faint cherries and decently strong coffee. Spicy yeasts, with very prickly pepper, faint clove, some aromatic herbs/flowers too. Roasted dark malts and breadiness settle towards the finish, and that's where the alcohol gets really strong (a tiny medicinal hint also, unfortunately). Black tea bitterness is last, mild, accompanied by some lingering roast.
Round body, chewy, medium carbonation that helps the spicy prickle. Aftertaste malty, a nice tasty sweetness and booze (weirdly, a bit tongue-numbing).
A tasty Belgian beer, but might be the weakest of the Trappist bunch. Quite some off notes, hopefully there wasn't something wrong with my bottle. I'll try more, but i don't really think the review will be different.

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Photo of hotsudge
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A= cloudy carmel brown, small head
S= carmel, roasting apples, a hint of malt and vanilla
T=carmel, slight banana
F=smooth, slight sparkle at first
O=a lovely creamy flavourful beer

Didn't have the right glass so I used a Chimay chalice instead. It leaves a chalky like finish on the glass. Only had 1 and served it at the ideal temp. Wish I had a 2nd.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle. It's not every day that a new Trappist brewery hits the shelves, so a bit of fanfare is in the air, folks.

This beer pours a hazy, dark reddish mahogany hue, with three fingers of tight, densely foamy beige head, which leaves but a few instances of sea spout lace around the glass as it evenly subsides.

It smells of dark, lightly toasted caramel malt, sozzled black fruit - prunes, wild cherries, and raisins - a molasses/treacle sugar-spike, mild clove and black pepper spice, a slight earthy mustiness, and faint warming alcohol. The taste is somewhat tart dark fruitcake, the essence of honey, as in the way of mead, diluted molasses, a hint of crème fraîche, packaged dates, caramel squares, toasted dark bread, subtle clove, and a further weak mustiness, equaled in its understatement by the very wallflowerish booze.

The carbonation is fairly tame, and at the same time kind of frothy, the body a hearty medium weight, and generally quite smooth, even if a pervasive sourness takes its (less than a) pound of flesh. It finishes off-dry, the fruity, malty, and sugary notes all well tempered by their corresponding sour/tart offsets.

An interesting, and tasty enough take on the entrenched Trappist BSDA - the initial delta indicated on the label - the honey - really taking a back seat to the skulking sour fruit character that comes to fill one's perception of this offering. Which I suppose is just fine, as who really wants another Rochefort/Westy/La Trappe clone (as good as those are), when there's new ground to break? Beer-speaking, of course, as the Abbey itself was founded back in 1293.

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Photo of jrenihan
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Brewed January 2013.

Beer is very dark brown, with a small tan head. Fades fairly quickly, with a bit of lace.

Smell is very, very fruity. Raisin, grape and plum. A bit of yeast and spice, but mainly fruit. The smell suggests a very sweet beer.

Taste follows the nose, but with a bit more variety. Dark fruit focused; raisin, grape and plum. Some yeast and a bit of bread. Quite a bit of alcohol heat, particularly for the ABV. Yeast is a bit more prominent than the nose. Very sweet, but the finish has a slight dryness with heat. I didn't realize that the sweetness was (at least partially) the result of honey until reading the bottle, but it makes a lot of sense once you know.

Full bodied, moderate carbonation. Lots of heat.

Overall, decent, but the booze is way too prominent and it is too sweet.

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Photo of Beric
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Serving: Bottle into Stift Engelszell teku glass
Served: 3 May 2014

Appearance: Deep, hazy brown with an off-white, tannish two finger head that collapses into a ring of foam around the edges of the glass. Leaves slight lacing. Beer looks beautiful...until the bottom of the glass. This one is bottle fermented, so there is obviously suspended yeast, however, at the bottom of the glass there were these nasty semi-solid yeast clumps to the point where I just couldn't stomach it. It looked gross.

Smell: Sweet, rich caramel, molasses, and toffee notes in the nose.

Taste: If you told me this was a dubbel or a doppelbock I would believe you. Honestly, this tastes like a sweeter version of Korbinian that is a little rougher around the edges. Creamy, gooey caramel and thick molasses are the primary tastes in this one, just like you'd expect from a dubbel or doppelbock. This does NOT taste like Maudite, which is also labeled a "Belgian Strong Dark Ale".

Mouthfeel: Good body and carbonation. Thick on the tongue. Minus points for the awkward yeast clumps.

Overall: This is a great beer with good promise. I think stylistically this is more in-tune with a dubbel or doppelbock rather than how it's currently labeled. Comparing this with Trois Pistoles or Maudite is like comparing two entirely different beers because, well, they are. Elimination of the yeast clumps would make this beer significantly better in appearance and mouthfeel, but the taste is quite good and largely redeems this brew.

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
86 out of 100 based on 135 ratings.