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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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BA SCORE
86
very good

274 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 274
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 13.39%


Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012)
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Dreadnaught33

District of Columbia

3.74/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This beer is labeled as a Belgian strong dark, but if you blindfolded me I would have gone with good to better than average doppelbock that is sweeter than normal. In many ways the yeast and malt is very much in the German vein, the only difference is the addition of sweetness from the added honey.

The beer pours a dark brown, with a ring of brown fizzy head with very little lacing left on the glass. The smell screams doppelbock with a dark, malty bread backbone with a little bit of a earthy sweeter layer over it with some dark fruit with anise as well that reminds me of optimator. Not the fullest aroma ever, it seems thinner than I would have guessed.

The taste really mirrors the smell with what I would describe as a sweet bread with plenty of thick dark malt, raisins, a slight nuttiness, plums, licorice, and just the doppelbock German yeast that is so pronounced. Honey is implied in my mind but I wouldn't have said it was there if I didn't know, it just seems on the sweeter side. Never would I guess this is a Trappist in the way Belgian Trappists are 'Trappist.' Still pretty tasty. Thinner feel, lower carbonation that how it looks, but it rolls over the tongue nicely and leaves a slight lingering savory aftertaste. Not a ton of alcohol in there, it is hidden well.

Overall I was a little underwhelmed after being excited after seeing this new beer with the patented Trappist stamp on it. Not bad, but also not great. Really tastes like a middle of the road dopplebock to my taste.

Serving type: bottle

04-17-2014 02:22:49 | More by Dreadnaught33
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biegaman

Ontario (Canada)

3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Gregorius is a mighty sounding name but this beer looks like hoisin sauce: dark, thick, flat. Not terribly intimidating. The bottle had so much sediment that the glass looks half full of liquid, half full of sand. Indeed yeast has a more visible presence than carbonation; there's no head at all.

Speaking of Asian sauces, the way this smells it could double as a sticky balsamic and soy glaze. The malt has a tinge of burnt sugar and ripe purple plum. There's also a substantial amount of anise seed and black pepper; the aroma may be darker than the appearance.

I've never tried knotting a bruised banana peel with my tongue but I imagine this is the taste it might leave in my mouth. This beer combines numerous fruits (banana, date, raisin, fig, apple) and what each flavour has in common is that they taste heavily bruised. The anise, clove, and mace give it a compote-like profile. It is at once spicy, savory, and sweet.

This particular sample is approaching one year in age but shows no signs of slowing down; the yeast is perfumed and effervescent as always. The alcohol enhances that spiciness and, as such, stays relatively disguised (there's enough maltiness to keep it at bay anyhow). The beer ends on a note of black licorice, baking spice, and clover honey.

Gregorius may lack that certain 'je ne sais quoi' of time-honoured Belgian monastic Quads, but Austria's first (and thus far only) Trappist brewery seems to be off to the right start. This is a very serviceable and satiating strong, rich, dark ale. The use of honey is purely incidental amidst such spicy yeast, formidable alcohol, and heavy maltiness, but still this recipe needs no changing.

Serving type: bottle

03-30-2014 19:46:31 | More by biegaman
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gr0g

New Jersey

3.69/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown, not quite black. Good head retention that leaves streaks of tan lace. Aroma has more dark, toasted malt than dark fruit notes, unlike many other BDSAs. A little bit of sweetness on the nose that doesn't smell like Belgian candi sugar. Given that honey is listed among the ingredients, I'll attribute it to that. Faint solvent-like alcohol detracts a bit.

The robust, malty flavor is nonetheless well-balanced. Some sweetness upfront is attenuated by hop bitterness. Toasted malt is prevalent, almost stout/porter-like in that respect. Carbonation is active and abundant but not harsh. There's a slight alcohol note that's OK for a nearly 10% ABV beer.

If I didn't know this was a Trappist brewery out of Austria I'd think it was an American brewery trying their hand at the style, what with the seemingly aggressive hopping to keep things balanced. It's a good beer but not nearly as refined as the established Trappist offerings.

Serving type: bottle

02-16-2014 01:21:59 | More by gr0g
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JayQue

Virginia

4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A good solid Strong Dark Ale. Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into my "Grape and Gourmet" tulip. Nice dark brown color, dense-with no light getting through. The head is medium size, highly carbonated and frothy looking. Head retention is pretty good for a high octane beer. Lacing is mostly a film on the glass, but for a while there were a few small patches of bubbly foam.

Very good aroma. Dark fruit, malt, a little molasses and sugar. Strong presence.

Taste is more of the same. Rich strong flavors of raisins, plums bready malt and some sweets - honey, molasses and sugar.

Mouthfeel is impressive as well. This beer is rich and smooth, with no alcohol bite. I have probably had it over a year, but I would imagine it was fairly refined from the start.

There are some better Strong Dark Ales, but this one is quite enjoyable. A great slow sipper on a cold day.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2014 18:38:01 | More by JayQue
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cambabeer

Florida

4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours thick and frothy with a generous head that stays for a while. Deep brown with some reddishness and easily visible yeast floaters. Very bold aroma, ethyl alcohol after a fruity sweeter beginning and a bready malty ending. Deeper fruit smells like plum and raisin with some burnt fruit sugar.

Very fruity wine like taste while in the mouth, warming alcohol on the way down with the only bitterness to be found at the end and coming much more from the burt malt flavor than any kind of hop bitterness that is masked in the beginning. A little coffee like but that's definitely not what prevails. Definitely a little too sweet (probably from the honey) to be very drinkable.

Heavy body, to be eaten with a spoon, or maybe a fork.
Not too similar to most belgian trappists, much more farmhouse ale type flavors than the rich tripple malt that I was expecting, but nothing wrong with that. This is good, and definitely one to have.

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2014 02:18:30 | More by cambabeer
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bmwats

Louisiana

3.43/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 33 cl bottle into a chalice.

A: Dark brown. Pours a half finger, bubbly, brown head. Dissipates quickly. Fair beer ring lacing.

S: Roasted coffee, raisin, plum, dark chocolate, and tea leaf.

T: Sweet raisin, bitter pecan, and pungent tea leaf, accentuate a rye bread malt.

M: Thick and syrupy. Sweet, hot, and boozy feeling.

D: Sip and enjoy.

Atmosphere is pretty good. Slight bubbly head and some fair lacing. Sweet fruity components mostly overshadow the light roasty, chocolate, and earthy flora components. As in the nose, sweet fruity components are the most prominent characteristics, pungency and light bitterness are also present. A little hot and boozy. Overall, this is a pretty good quaff.

Serving type: bottle

01-21-2014 05:09:47 | More by bmwats
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rhoadsrage

Illinois

4.35/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip)
brewed on 2012/11
A- This beer pours a lumpy dense walnut brown body with a thick tan creamy head that last a good bit and has some thick lacing after each sip.

S- The soft almost nutty dark malt qualities are blended with hint of dark fruit like cherry pits. As it opens the aroma really develops with some vinous notes and finish of soy sauce and cola hints that are quite pleasant.

T- The soft mellow dark malt flavors have more dark dried fruit and prune layers with old wet barrel qualities and a roasted malt hint in the finish that is complimented by a nice alcohol spice. There is also a red wine tannin that lingers in the mix aswell.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a tight little fizz and a nice alcohol warmth.

O- This beer is a classic in the abbey style. Great subtle depth that grows as the beer opens, making it simple yet elegant. It really helped to take the chill of coming in from the cold.

Serving type: bottle

01-09-2014 16:20:28 | More by rhoadsrage
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lacqueredmouse

Australia

3.79/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

What was once briefly the newest Trappist brewery in the world had yet to cross my path, so I thought it was high time to give it a whirl. These guys are from Austria, the first Trappist brewery from that country (and first outside Belgium or the Netherlands). Since they were officially certified, a new Trappist brewery has been certified in, of all places, the USA. This was a 33cl brown bottle purchased from Oak Barrel in Sydney.

Pours a rather murky and opaque deep amber hue, with an initially over-carbonated and fizzy head of off-brown that turns into a fairly fine ring. Lots of persistent carbonation runs in tight streams up the side of the glass. No lacing. It looks okay. No more than than though.

Nose is oddly spicy: juniper and black pepper come through, with a slight medicinal overtone and aromas of marshmallow and dust. Slight sweetness as it warms gives some cherry aromas as well. It's certainly interesting.

Taste is actually pretty solid. Firm sweetness throughout, tucked in by a slight medicinal astringency that allows those spicy aromatic characters to come through a bit more. Hint of marzipan and acetone on the back linger a little bit longer than necessary, probably aided by a slightly too prominent booze note. That being said, for 9.7%, the booze is pretty well hidden, and the body still stays quite light and fluid, in the best tradition of a big Belgian style ale.

Overall, this is solid stuff, albeit not up with the best examples. It's fairly well constructed, and has some interest and complexity to it. Something I'll certainly revisit at some point.

Serving type: bottle

01-08-2014 02:44:44 | More by lacqueredmouse
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

4.04/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hmm- a Trappist beer from Austria- I must not have been paying attention. Definitely tastes like a quad- vinous and strong with some herbal and stewed fruit notes and the distinctive twang of Belgian yeast. The aroma, particularly, is well done. The taste adds some notes of chocolate and some red fruit in the finish. The abv is well hidden, and the finish is exuberantly fruity- perhaps even a bit sour from the fruit. It lacks the depth of the very best quads, but is still a nice surprise.

Serving type: bottle

01-05-2014 02:10:10 | More by Georgiabeer
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mikeg67

New Jersey

4.23/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

500 ml bottle. Pours hazy brown with long lasting, creamy, tanned head. Aroma is of funky yeast, dark fruit, brown sugar, and hints of chocolate and herbal hops. Body is full and crisp. Taste is of chocolate, dark fruit, brown sugar, herbal hops, toasted malt, and hints of wood and alcohol. Finish is long and dry. Wonderful, delicious brew.

Serving type: bottle

12-30-2013 15:18:10 | More by mikeg67
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superspak

Michigan

4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into chalice, bottled in 1/2013. Pours murky dark reddish brown color with a 1-2 finger dense khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a moderate amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big raisin, plum, prune, fig, pear, apple, caramel, toast, molasses, dark bread, honey, herbal, light clove, light bubblegum, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good complexity and balance of dark malt and fruity yeast ester notes; with good strength. Taste of big raisin, prune, fig, pear, apple, molasses, caramel, toast, toffee, dark bread, honey, herbal, light clove, light bubblegum, and yeast earthiness. Lingering notes of dark/light fruits, molasses, caramel, toast, toffee, dark bread, clove, honey, herbal, light bubblegum and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Big robustness and very nice complexity of dark malt and fruity yeast ester flavors; with a good malt/fruitiness balance and no cloying sweetness after the finish. Medium carbonation and very full bodied; with a very slick, creamy, and lightly syrupy mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small warming present after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Quadrupel style. All around good complexity, balance, and robustness of dark malt and fruity/spicy yeast flavors; and quite smooth to sip on for the ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

Serving type: bottle

12-15-2013 19:55:30 | More by superspak
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JohnGalt1

Idaho

3.5/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle picked up at the COOP tonight for about $6... Poured into my HotD goblet and received a short lasting tan head with little to no lacing... the brew is hazy dark walnut... Looked like quite a bit of yeast/sediment got into the glass during the pour before I noticed.

Nose shows earthy dark maltiness with little in the way of traditional esters or phenols.. mainly just dark malt with a subtle kiss of malt sweetness... does not smell "malty" though if that makes sense.

Flavor is dominated by again sorta dry dark malt essence... a bit of sweetness reminds me of a musky mead... dry dusty, sorta nutty dark malt on the finish.

Okay carbonation and body.. but both seem a little muddy.

Better than average certainly, but I guess I was hoping for more.

3.5's across the board.

Serving type: bottle

11-07-2013 06:25:15 | More by JohnGalt1
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ryan1788a5

Massachusetts

3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2oz bottle poured into a chalice. Bottling date of 3/2013 printed on the label.

A: Chestnut brown color. Good clarity. Tan head settle into a thin cap. Little to no lacing.

S: Sweet on the nose. Lots of honey. Brown bread, crust, cocoa. A touch leathery. Bread pudding, raisin and craisin. Whiff of solvent alcohol. Tropical esters of pineapple, asian pear, and tangerine. Lightly peppery and phenolic. Yeasty undertones.

T: Sweet and honeyed up front, though it dries. Grape skin. Raisin and craisin. Brown bread, bread pudding. Brown cocoa. Alcohol comes on a bit strong, but checks itself just enough. Pineapple and tangerine ester. A touch of medicinal phenol comes out more as the beer warms. Earthy yeast is a constant in the background. Very dry finish of brown cocoa, brown bread, and alcohol.

M: Thick in body. Silky smooth texture. High attenuation and gentle, scrubbing carbonation provide lift and give it a light feeling on the palate. The mouthfeel goes a long way to enhance drinkablilty.

O: Certainly not as complex as its Trappist brethren. Not bad stuff, but the expectations will be very high. It just feels a little too plain-Jane, especially when compared to a Chimay or a Rochefort, which is exactly what consumers will do.

Serving type: bottle

10-29-2013 00:25:00 | More by ryan1788a5
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eduardolinhalis

Switzerland

3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle served in a Chimay chalice.

Best before 02.05.2015. Most probably bottled in 2013 (end of 2012, maybe).

A: Pours a dark and bit cloudy brown color. Some small chunks can be seen when it's poured. Forms a solid creamy beige head with low retention and only few lacings left in the glass. However a thin layer remains forever on the top

S: Roasted and very fruity, mainly. Strong notes of dry dark fruits like raisins and plums. Strong roastiness too: notes of coffee. Strong notes of caramel and candy sugar too. Very bready yeast profile, quite belgian-like. Some alcohol but quite mild considering the high ABV

T: Slightly sweet and roasted upfront. Less sweet than expected. Very fruity. Strong notes of caramel and roasted malts. Bubblegum sensation. Very bready yeasts. End is mild bitter and also a bit spicy after all

M: Heavy, creamy and a bit molasses body. Bready bittersweet aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. The Trappist stamp creates some expectations that this beer cannot accomplish. An authentic Belgian Strong Dark Ale, however, a less remarkable Trappist Ale

Serving type: bottle

10-20-2013 23:47:30 | More by eduardolinhalis
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jrenihan

Ontario (Canada)

3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Brewed January 2013.

Beer is very dark brown, with a small tan head. Fades fairly quickly, with a bit of lace.

Smell is very, very fruity. Raisin, grape and plum. A bit of yeast and spice, but mainly fruit. The smell suggests a very sweet beer.

Taste follows the nose, but with a bit more variety. Dark fruit focused; raisin, grape and plum. Some yeast and a bit of bread. Quite a bit of alcohol heat, particularly for the ABV. Yeast is a bit more prominent than the nose. Very sweet, but the finish has a slight dryness with heat. I didn't realize that the sweetness was (at least partially) the result of honey until reading the bottle, but it makes a lot of sense once you know.

Full bodied, moderate carbonation. Lots of heat.

Overall, decent, but the booze is way too prominent and it is too sweet.

Serving type: bottle

10-10-2013 01:03:36 | More by jrenihan
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tjumfrid

Arizona

4.18/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

After trying almost all the Belgian Trappist ales (sans Westveleteren) I was ecstatic to find this in the beer aisle. Poured from a 11.2 oz. bottle into a Belgian tulip.

Appearance: Dark mahogany and purple. Thin lacing on the top.

Smell: Strawberry preserves, some plum. Very unique, not what I was expecting.

Taste: Starts with a concoction of plum and honey. Booziness overpowers these flavors at the finish. Unlike most other Trappist ales with a high abv content, the booze is not concealed in this one. The finish adds to the uniqueness of this Austrian Trappist ale. I rather like it.

Mouthfeel: Surprisingly medium-bodied. Not as chewy as would have thought.

Overall: I will be picking this up again. If the Benno is as good as the Gregorious, Engelszell shall be named among my top favorite Trappist breweries.

Serving type: bottle

09-30-2013 04:25:03 | More by tjumfrid
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redleaves

Maine

4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Nose of raisins and honey. Relatively spritzy mouthfeel. Deep raisin and plum. Dark caramel and honey. Very full flavor as Trappists should be. Very warming. Perfect for an autumn day. Belgian yeast is up from with the esters. Doesn't linger on the tongue too long. There is a roasty or hoppy dryness at the end that does not dry up completely. Very warming alcohol. The honey is on the lips when you lick them. This is very excellent and pulls its own weight in the Trappist world. I'm quite glad the honey is noticeable, sometimes it ferments out completely.

Serving type: bottle

09-29-2013 17:49:05 | More by redleaves
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71CrazyOtto

Michigan

2.33/5  rDev -38.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Meh. Tasted more like a stout mixed in with some bad sugar. Boozy burn, a big disappointment coming from a Trappist label brewer.

These Austrian monks should brew German style beer and leave the Belgian styles to the master Trappist that actually reside within Belgium or at least near the border.

What brewer gets the Authentic Trappist label next some western Russian monks, sigh.

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2013 04:00:37 | More by 71CrazyOtto
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Cylinsier

Pennsylvania

4.15/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

300 ml

Pours a dark, opaque brown. Almost black. Yellowish head is an inch thick and dissipates very slowly, never fully disappearing.

Smells of oak-like woody malts, candi sugar, figs, apples and caramel. Maybe a bit of cinnamon too.

Tastes of caramel and buttered biscuit malts with dark fruit sweetness and some light bretty sourness. Woody bitter aftertaste.

Full body with tingly carbonation on the roof of the mouth.

A very good flavorful ale, great body, and interesting aromas and balance. There are still better dark Belgians than this but it's still a great representation of the style and worth trying.

Serving type: bottle

09-04-2013 22:34:20 | More by Cylinsier
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roblowther

Texas

3.49/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Woody for the brew. This looks like the stuff. An almost black brown with a very minimal creamy tan head. Smells of raspberries, cherries, and pipe tobacco (I only know because of my Pop and do not condone said products. Blech.) The taste has a lot going on, grapes, cloves, that tobacco thing, and something that tastes like plants smell. I know that's vague, but this review is free, so you get what you pay for. Mouthfeel is slippery and carbonated in a very controlled way. Overall, I don't like this beer quite as much as I want to. It has potential, but the taste just doesn't quite pull things together the way I'd hoped. Still. You won't go wrong. Especially if Woody is keeping you supplied.

Serving type: bottle

08-14-2013 00:45:18 | More by roblowther
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notchucknorris

California

3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: Deep ruddy brown color with a one finger tan head. Lots of sediment suspended in the bottom of the glass. Almost looks like chia seeds in there.

S: Rich dark fruit notes with some bubblegum, Belgian yeast, brown sugar, dates and honey.

T: Lots of dark fruit and yeast upfront. Slight hint of spice, plum, chalky yeast and a hint of banana bread and chocolate.

Serving type: bottle

08-10-2013 06:48:21 | More by notchucknorris
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bluejacket74

Ohio

4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, label says Brewed in Year 2013/01. Served in a DFH Signature Glass, the beer pours a murky mahogany brown color with about an inch tan head. Head retention and lacing are both good. The brew smells like dark fruit, dark bread, sweet spices, clove and honey. I think for the most part the taste is the same as the aroma, but there's also some herbs, molasses and some nuts noticeable. This is definitely a sweeter tasting brew. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's slick, smooth and easy to drink. I thought this was a good beer, I wouldn't mind trying this one again in the future. $5.99 a bottle.

Serving type: bottle

08-09-2013 23:13:54 | More by bluejacket74
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Pencible

Virginia

3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark mahogany with a little light tan head.
S: It smelled like toffee and raisin bread and nutty malt, with some fresh wheat and leathery malt.
T: It tasted like pumpernickel bread and earthy barley and copper hops, with a little date and wild honey. It had a clean bitter aftertaste.
M: It was somewhat thick with moderate carbonation. Decent body.
D: This was a nicer beer than Benno, but still not an impressive quad. The scent was great, but the taste was more like a brown ale. The body was ok, and the finish was reasonably smooth, so it wasn't difficult to drink. Would probably benefit from some time in the cellar. Decent fresh, but nothing special.

Serving type: bottle

08-04-2013 00:34:08 | More by Pencible
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artoolemomo

Oregon

3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours up about a finger's worth of head which looks to have some retention. The body is light and creamy beige while the body is a muddy chestnut brown which shows dull maroon at the bottom of the glass when it is held up to the light. It would appear that the pour was not finished as the head actually increased a bit. The retention is excellent and it appears I will be waiting a few minutes. Some lacing is left behind.

Nose- Not exactly the most enticing aroma at the moment. Burnt raisin which is almost medicinal with some hints of licorice. Roasted malt notes as well. The nose is perkier from the glass and has strong roasted and coffee notes. The less than enticing aromas from the glass begin to mellow and show molasses and brown sugar. Some caramel.

Taste- Burnt raisin along with the same medicinal notes of the nose. Some saccharine cherry notes. Lots of licorice rises in the middle with a little bit of burnt chocolate/coffee finish. At the moment, this beer is not very palatable and shows poor integration. Faint indication of alcohol with a spicy tingle left on the tongue. Some clove. Some brown sugar and molasses but the sweetness of this beer is a little too much. Roasted malt notes as well. Fortunately, some of the licorice and medicinal aspects have faded but it many not be enough to save this beer. The roasted notes start to dominate and the cloying sweetness does not fade. Some honey. Lots of figs, raisins, and dates but they are far too sweet. This probably could use some age but the initial impression does not make me want to get a bottle to age. Brown bread is present in the flavor profile as well. Some spiciness in addition to clove such as nutmeg and cinnamon.

Mouthfeel- Medium to heavy bodied with some syrup to the texture. Somewhat vinuous.

Drinkability- Way too sweet for me but hides the 9.7% alcohol pretty well. And at 6 bucks a bottle, it's a little pricey when you could just pick up a Rochefort.

Overall- It's not a bad beer; it just doesn't work with my palate. It's worth giving a try, especially if you like sweet beers. Or if you don't- buy a bottle and let it sit. Maybe it will mellow out.

Later notes: This does mellow and the sweetness does become bearable. Notes of oak show themselves. I have changed my scores accordingly.

Serving type: bottle

08-03-2013 03:17:14 | More by artoolemomo
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seand

California

3.63/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Mine was a crazy gusher. I had a glass ready, but I wasn't expecting it and it was so quick that I lost half the beer, maybe more, even though I had a glass ready.

A: The beer the I did manage to get into a glass is a dark brown, with not too much head left besides some surface film and a ring around the rim, which leaves spotty lacing.

S: Densely sweet molasses and licorice.

T: Very dense molasses and roasted malt to start, becoming drier and roastier towards the finish. There's a lot going on towards the beginning especially, where the flavor is very densely packed.

M: Full body, medium but quite prickly carbonation.

Overall, not bad. I'm not super impressed, either, though my first impression of cleaning up half the beer from my counter and seeing only the other half in my glass likely did not help. I may have gotten a weird bottle, though.

Serving type: bottle

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