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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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86
very good

360 Ratings
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Ratings: 360
Reviews: 102
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 13.05%
Wants: 27
Gots: 32 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell visit their website
Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012)
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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Brewed in 2012.

Pours a murky brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of malt, honey, dark fruit, and some earthy hop aromas. Taste is much the same with toasted bread and fruity flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer but it's much more earthy and slightly rough compared to how I thought it would be.

UCLABrewN84, Apr 24, 2013
Photo of djrn2
2/5  rDev -47.8%

djrn2, May 18, 2013
Photo of spycow
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

spycow, May 02, 2013
Photo of Thorpe429
3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from The Birch in Norfolk, Virginia. Served in a cervoise.

Pours a dark chestnut brown with a lasting off-white head. Nice lacing on the sides of the glass and a cap throughout.

The nose starts with some toffee, honey, bread, earth, and a somewhat-woody note. Molasses, brown sugar, and a touch of clove. Slight date character. There's also something in the background that's slightly reminiscent of root beer. Sassafras, maybe? All in all, pretty well integrated and fairly intriguing.

Flavor has a nice honey component alongside some bread and light caramel. Molasses with notes of clove in the background. Not terribly fruity. Dry and toasty.

Medium body and a fairly-dry finish. Ever so slightly astringent. Moderate carbonation.

Overall, very interesting and certainly unique for a Trappist beer. The honey and molasses notes were interesting, with slight spice through the background. I'm looking forward to seeing how this beer/recipe develops over time.

Thorpe429, Feb 06, 2013
Photo of acurtis
2.25/5  rDev -41.3%

acurtis, May 18, 2013
Photo of nmann08
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

nmann08, Dec 05, 2012
Photo of metter98
3.69/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is very dark brown in color (black when viewed from afar) and has a moderate amount of carbonation visible from the bubbles rising near the edges of the glass. It poured with a two finger high beige head that took a long time to die down and consistently left a thin head covering the surface.
S: There are moderate aromas of Belgian yeast and dark fruits in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell but also has some additional flavors of dark malts. Earthy flavors of yeast linger through the finish. No sweetness is detectable.
M: It feels medium-bodied, slightly smooth and a little dry on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: Considering its strength, the alcohol is remarkably well hidden from the taste, which makes this beer very easy to drink.

metter98, Jan 20, 2013
Photo of BEERchitect
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

As the "little brother" of the Trappist brewing, Stift Engelszell steps into the Strong Dark Ale arena with a bold and majestic ale that carries a regal sense of complexity and with superb drinkability.

Gregorius pours with a deep dark russet brown hue and the expected yeasty rust haze. The beer calmly builds a creamy but short off-white head. Though the beer is restrained with its foamy lacing, it does celebrates brandy-type legging that coats the glass with malt oils with a gentle swirl of the chalice.

Creamy candied aromas and taste begin with an elegant sweetness that's reminescent of grape, hard candy, and powdered sugar. Combined with the robust tastes of grilled dark fruit, blackcurrant, cabernet, mild chocolate, light coffee grind, cola nuts and cashews- the taste is varying but savory and sweet. Added complexities arise with raisin, plumb and prune as the beer warms and the taste buds invite more delicate character. A balance of vinous woods and black pepper balance the sweetness and fruit and close the beer with a dry sweetness that's every bit as wine-like as ale.

Its firm and creamy body is rich, savory and succulent with its initial sip. But finishing warm, its evident that the malts have receded, the bitterness of wood oils rises, and the alcohols pronounce.

And with the same type of satisfaction of Koningshoeven La Trappe Quad, Gregorius has fit the Trappist Strong Dark Ale taste, complexity, and drinakability to a tee.

BEERchitect, May 21, 2013
Photo of kjkinsey
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

kjkinsey, Jun 23, 2014
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

ygtbsm94, Sep 11, 2013
Photo of kylehay2004
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

kylehay2004, Aug 05, 2013
Photo of Knapp85
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Knapp85, Jul 19, 2013
Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +4.4%

JAHMUR, Nov 08, 2012
Photo of TMoney2591
2.98/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tumbler at Local Option.

I had to start off with the newest Trappist brewery, didn't I? This stuff pours a clear topaz topped by over a finger of khaki foam. The nose comprises caramel, toffee, stone fruits, fig, and light clove. The taste brings in more of the same, though unfortunately accompanied by some musty apple/white wine grape character throughout. This flavor just ruins everything, literally leaving a bad taste in my mouth. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, it seemed as though the Local Option crew agreed with me that this beer, though well-looked-forward-to, really fell flat on its face, especially with that weird flavor in there (which is exacerbated by the alcohol level). Without any hesitation, this is the worst Trappist beer I've ever had. Hopefully I can try more from this brewery in the future, though (meaning: Engelszell, don't try to be Orval, 'cause this nonsense ain't no Orval, homies!).

TMoney2591, Nov 30, 2012
Photo of biboergosum
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle. It's not every day that a new Trappist brewery hits the shelves, so a bit of fanfare is in the air, folks.

This beer pours a hazy, dark reddish mahogany hue, with three fingers of tight, densely foamy beige head, which leaves but a few instances of sea spout lace around the glass as it evenly subsides.

It smells of dark, lightly toasted caramel malt, sozzled black fruit - prunes, wild cherries, and raisins - a molasses/treacle sugar-spike, mild clove and black pepper spice, a slight earthy mustiness, and faint warming alcohol. The taste is somewhat tart dark fruitcake, the essence of honey, as in the way of mead, diluted molasses, a hint of crème fraîche, packaged dates, caramel squares, toasted dark bread, subtle clove, and a further weak mustiness, equaled in its understatement by the very wallflowerish booze.

The carbonation is fairly tame, and at the same time kind of frothy, the body a hearty medium weight, and generally quite smooth, even if a pervasive sourness takes its (less than a) pound of flesh. It finishes off-dry, the fruity, malty, and sugary notes all well tempered by their corresponding sour/tart offsets.

An interesting, and tasty enough take on the entrenched Trappist BSDA - the initial delta indicated on the label - the honey - really taking a back seat to the skulking sour fruit character that comes to fill one's perception of this offering. Which I suppose is just fine, as who really wants another Rochefort/Westy/La Trappe clone (as good as those are), when there's new ground to break? Beer-speaking, of course, as the Abbey itself was founded back in 1293.

biboergosum, Apr 07, 2013
Photo of StonedTrippin
4.06/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

new trappist brew, cool! pours super dark brown, pushing black, no glow at all, with a few inches of bubbly khaki head with fine retention. the nose is quite understated, with some smoked malt and Belgian yeast being the only real obvious notes. the flavor is very opposite, extremely robust and aggressive. its malt heavy, but not sweet, its moderately smoky, but not heavy, its really roasty, but not bitter, just chock full of contradictions. complex and will all the fine mouthfeel characteristics we now expect in trappist brews. its brightly carbonated and its fuller body is made light in this way. texture is a little runny, but it doesn't hurt the outcome. kind of a hard beer to classify, but the alcohol is extraordinarily well hidden and the yeast used is new to me, and I like it a lot. overall a tasty brew, new to shelves, and im curious to see what else they make. would not have known this was made with honey if it didn't say so on the label.

StonedTrippin, Feb 01, 2013
Photo of nickfl
4.25/5  rDev +11%

nickfl, Feb 27, 2013
Photo of RblWthACoz
3.66/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

My first of the new Trappist ales.

This is definitely a dark ale. Carries robust character. Feel is good. I do have to note that it seems almost Flemish in execution. It has that cherry wood character thing going on. I don't think this would be intentional, but I like it. As a Trappist production, I would expect it not to be.

RblWthACoz, Jul 04, 2013
Photo of Rifugium
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

First had: on tap at Monk's, Philly, PA

Dark brown pour, seemingly opaque in the dim light of the bar, topped with a small, wispy head. Aroma of dark bready malts, fairly roasty, coffee and cocoa, yeast, leather. The taste reflected the aroma, pumpernickel, leather, coffee, unsweetened cocoa, prunes, raisins, slight notes of toffee and leafy hops, and some distant fruity phenols that didn't really seem to add or detract from the taste, they were just there. A nice beer overall, very dry, a little alcohol heat, medium body, nowhere near as full as many of the other "big" names in trappist beer, but still nice and drinkable.

I have a couple bottles of this, and I'd like to cellar at least one to see how it holds up over the years, seeing how it is the first commercially available batch from Stift.

Rifugium, Nov 15, 2012
Photo of beernads
3.25/5  rDev -15.1%

beernads, Jul 02, 2013
Photo of smcolw
3.64/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3.5

Solid brown color and very cloudy. Strong initial head, but it settles quickly to a single layer of bubbles. Some spotty lace.

Burnt sugar and dark caramel are the first smells I detect. I also sense large pit fruit like plum and apricot.

Semi-sweet--that is to say it is less sweet than the caramel smell. It's also less burnt than the nose. The body is relatively thin. Strong darker (chocolate or dark crystal) malt flavor. Very warming from the bountiful alcohol level. The swallow enhances this and has an essence of cherry brandy. High carbonation level.

Very flavorful, but not really balanced. The mouthfeel is closer to soda than most beers.

smcolw, Jun 15, 2013
Photo of oriolesfan4
4/5  rDev +4.4%

oriolesfan4, Oct 10, 2014
Photo of BlackHaddock
3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1st beer of 2013: 33cl bottle poured @ home into a Westvleteren chalice, just to make it feel at one with the Trappist world. Some sediment got into the chalice but the beer still looked fine: reddy brown body with a full tanned foaming head.

The nose is malts all the way: molasses and a yeastiness with red berries actually lead the aroma stakes with traces of off Port notes adding a slightly vinegar feel to the overall smell.

The taste was a heavenly blend/mix of flavours: matly, fruity and yeasty. Semi-sweet with that aforementioned Port off-vinegar feel keeping the brew interesting and different.

Body wise it is fine and I thought the beer well worth finding and tasting. A long way from being the best or even one of the best ’Trappist’ brews but never the less a good beer.

BlackHaddock, Jan 01, 2013
Photo of drewone
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

drewone, Jul 28, 2013
Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.79/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

What was once briefly the newest Trappist brewery in the world had yet to cross my path, so I thought it was high time to give it a whirl. These guys are from Austria, the first Trappist brewery from that country (and first outside Belgium or the Netherlands). Since they were officially certified, a new Trappist brewery has been certified in, of all places, the USA. This was a 33cl brown bottle purchased from Oak Barrel in Sydney.

Pours a rather murky and opaque deep amber hue, with an initially over-carbonated and fizzy head of off-brown that turns into a fairly fine ring. Lots of persistent carbonation runs in tight streams up the side of the glass. No lacing. It looks okay. No more than than though.

Nose is oddly spicy: juniper and black pepper come through, with a slight medicinal overtone and aromas of marshmallow and dust. Slight sweetness as it warms gives some cherry aromas as well. It's certainly interesting.

Taste is actually pretty solid. Firm sweetness throughout, tucked in by a slight medicinal astringency that allows those spicy aromatic characters to come through a bit more. Hint of marzipan and acetone on the back linger a little bit longer than necessary, probably aided by a slightly too prominent booze note. That being said, for 9.7%, the booze is pretty well hidden, and the body still stays quite light and fluid, in the best tradition of a big Belgian style ale.

Overall, this is solid stuff, albeit not up with the best examples. It's fairly well constructed, and has some interest and complexity to it. Something I'll certainly revisit at some point.

lacqueredmouse, Jan 08, 2014
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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
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