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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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132 Reviews
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Reviews: 132
Hads: 479
Avg: 3.81
pDev: 24.15%
Wants: 37
Gots: 75 | FT: 2
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Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of Flounder57
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle was poured into a chalice.

Appearance: A one finger off white head was poured that reduced to a thin layer. It is a dark amber brown color with no vision of anything.

Smell: Plums, raisins, figs, spicy yeast, warm booze, cherry, and tobacco.

Taste: Lots of dark fruit goodness, spicy yeast, clove, honey, deceiving booze for 9.7%, and a little bitterness in the end too.

Mouthfeel: Silky smooth, sweet, little dry, medium to full bodied, low to medium carbonation, and warm booze.

Overall: Very enjoyable beer to start my birthday. Might have to go fact and get another bottle.

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Photo of patre_tim
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

A: Dark brown, cloudy with a barrage of fine bubbles rising within the middle of the chalice. Topped with 2 fingers of creamy beige, foamy head. Sticky gelatinous lacing as I swirl the glass.

S: Cherries, raisins, it’s a lot like a cherry coke. Dark fruits and cherries, light floral notes. Cherries and raisins sums up the scent.

T: Cherries, raisins, dark fruits, some dried figs, snow, light sweetness, and a light acidic quality. Alcohol is hidden, but shows on the throat and back of the tongue. It has this sort of leather, tannic acid quality that is somewhat sour, like fermented milk.

M: Thick body with very foamy carbonation. It reminds me of powdered rock candy or a self foaming tablet in the mouth. It seems to continue to foam on entry.

O: So thrilled to have found this at Bruisin Ales in Asheville. A year and a half earlier, a misinformed tour guide at a brewery told me that beer from this brewery was only likely to available in the next 5 years by going to Europe. Never saw it in Belgium. Thrilled to have seen it at least in two places in the US recently. Drinking this one in my Orval chalice in Kunming, China as my 1000th beer reviewed on Beeradvocate.

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Photo of thierrynantes
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Beer bottle (33 cl.) purchased from La Cervoiserie, and tasted in 2013.

Appearance : dark red brown color, with thin beige head.
Smell : malty and burnt caramel aromas.
Taste & mouthfeel : sweet malty and yeasty flavors, alcohol presence leading to a bitter finish.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Belgian quadruple (trappisten bier)

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Photo of Roguer
4.19/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful super dark brown and opaque beer. Light at the edges reveals floaties and a nut brown hue. Strong tan head with phenomenal retention and wide lacing.

Strong, dominant aroma: sweet dark fruit (figs and prunes), malts (toffee, caramel, and cocoa), a hint of spices (nutmeg), and nuts. Classic Quad/Dubbel aroma.

Flavor is sweet, fruity, and malty up front; prunes, plums, cherries, and raisins carry the day, riding the backs of dark, sweet fruitbread; hints of spices and cocoa, and impressions of walnuts and pecans. There is a curious, slightly overripe sourness that comes through on the back-end and lingers through the aftertaste.

Thick, cloying mouthfeel; slight alcohol heat on the sticky finish; minor puckering; lively with no sting. Very impressive mouthfeel and character for the ABV.

This is an excellent quad, on par with the best American versions I've had. That lasting overripe sourness, however, keeps it firmly from the territory of Rochefort et al. A wonderfully crafted and delicious beer.

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Photo of brewandbbq
4.16/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from 2013.

Pours cola brown with a tan head of an inch-plus. A partial skim coat for the duration of the glass with some traces of lacing.

Aromatics are filled with clove-dusted cocoa, caramel-coated apples, and a hint of booziness.

Medium bodied with a creamy mouthfeel.

Plenty of Belgiany phenols with chocolate and rum-soaked raisins on the palate.

Finishes slightly sweet with a lingering boozy note.

Drinks like an Imperial Dubble, tasty.

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Photo of ryan1788a5
3.72/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2oz bottle poured into a chalice. Bottling date of 3/2013 printed on the label.

A: Chestnut brown color. Good clarity. Tan head settle into a thin cap. Little to no lacing.

S: Sweet on the nose. Lots of honey. Brown bread, crust, cocoa. A touch leathery. Bread pudding, raisin and craisin. Whiff of solvent alcohol. Tropical esters of pineapple, asian pear, and tangerine. Lightly peppery and phenolic. Yeasty undertones.

T: Sweet and honeyed up front, though it dries. Grape skin. Raisin and craisin. Brown bread, bread pudding. Brown cocoa. Alcohol comes on a bit strong, but checks itself just enough. Pineapple and tangerine ester. A touch of medicinal phenol comes out more as the beer warms. Earthy yeast is a constant in the background. Very dry finish of brown cocoa, brown bread, and alcohol.

M: Thick in body. Silky smooth texture. High attenuation and gentle, scrubbing carbonation provide lift and give it a light feeling on the palate. The mouthfeel goes a long way to enhance drinkablilty.

O: Certainly not as complex as its Trappist brethren. Not bad stuff, but the expectations will be very high. It just feels a little too plain-Jane, especially when compared to a Chimay or a Rochefort, which is exactly what consumers will do.

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Photo of bsp77
3.54/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Chocolate brown with decent tan head.

Smell: Loads of dark fruit, slightly sickly, and some Belgian spiciness.

Taste: Very sweet with plum, raisin, dates and cherry. Some spice notes, with a touch of honey.

Feel: Low carbonation with a sticky body. Finish has some drier mead characteristics but not quite enough.

Overall: Okay Belgian Strong Ale. Simply too sweet and ripe. I prefer their Benno beer by a wide margin, which is some kind of Saison/BPA/Braggot concoction.

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Photo of bmwats
3.42/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 33 cl bottle into a chalice.

A: Dark brown. Pours a half finger, bubbly, brown head. Dissipates quickly. Fair beer ring lacing.

S: Roasted coffee, raisin, plum, dark chocolate, and tea leaf.

T: Sweet raisin, bitter pecan, and pungent tea leaf, accentuate a rye bread malt.

M: Thick and syrupy. Sweet, hot, and boozy feeling.

D: Sip and enjoy.

Atmosphere is pretty good. Slight bubbly head and some fair lacing. Sweet fruity components mostly overshadow the light roasty, chocolate, and earthy flora components. As in the nose, sweet fruity components are the most prominent characteristics, pungency and light bitterness are also present. A little hot and boozy. Overall, this is a pretty good quaff.

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Photo of Cylinsier
4.16/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

300 ml

Pours a dark, opaque brown. Almost black. Yellowish head is an inch thick and dissipates very slowly, never fully disappearing.

Smells of oak-like woody malts, candi sugar, figs, apples and caramel. Maybe a bit of cinnamon too.

Tastes of caramel and buttered biscuit malts with dark fruit sweetness and some light bretty sourness. Woody bitter aftertaste.

Full body with tingly carbonation on the roof of the mouth.

A very good flavorful ale, great body, and interesting aromas and balance. There are still better dark Belgians than this but it's still a great representation of the style and worth trying.

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Photo of WillCarrera
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

On-tap at Churchkey in DC, poured into a balloon glass.

A- Pours nearly black, held up to light it reveals some burgundy hues, produces a thin khaki head.

S- Mix of dark fruits (fig, dates, raisins), and roasted malt, maybe some coffee and dark chocolate.

T-Big sweet flavor, at first I'm getting a lot of roasted grain with coffee and chocolate, almost porter-like, but on subsequent sips the dark fruit becomes more prominent. Lots of figs, raisins, maybe some leather. There's a bit of sweet, fruity alcohol on the end with medicinal phenol flavor.

M- Medium to full-bodied, creamy, rich feel.

O- A very interesting beer, it definitely sets itself apart from its Belgian counterparts, definitely give this a try, although the fruity, rich sweetness makes it a sipper.

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Photo of rangerred
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

330ml bottle into a goblet.

Pours a hazy very dark brown with a fluffy light tan head that doesn't stick around for a very long time. There is a lack of lacing as well.

Aroma is almost like cherry juice. Smells strongly of dark fruit with some caramel and molasses. Not bad but seems a bit sweet.

The flavor hits very hard with the cherry and plum. It is very fruity with the sweetness to go along with it unfortunately. Caramel and honey comes in later with a quick shot of wood and alcohol. Sweetness lingers through the finish with alcoholic warmth.

Overall, this beer is just not that refined and complex. It is actually somewhat disappointing for a Trappist beer. Nothing to go out of your way for.

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Photo of Brabander
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I got this bottle (in a sixpack) from a Dutch guy who went to the abbey in the time the first batch was sold. I gave away five of the six bottles and the sixt was saved for a special occasion.

I was in Austria last week and i decided to take back the bottle to it's country of origin. Drank the bottle in the lovely village of Neustift in the Strubai valley together with an American Facebook friend who was there @ the same time.

Poured out of the bottle into a wine glass, did not have the appropiate glassware with me. Nice head but not spectacular. The smell is normal with a bit caramellic malts in the nose. Taste is not very spectacular when you compare this one with other Trappists.

Glad i got to try this one and that's it!

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Photo of shand
3.99/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gregorius pours a muddy brown with a dense head. The aroma is sweet with dark fruits, and slightly tart. The taste is fruity up front, with a bit of darkness from the malt brewing in the back the whole time. A bit of tartness and Belgian yeast round out the flavor. Overall, Gregorius is a tasty beer, if not jaw-dropping. A solid introduction from the new Trappist brewery.

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Photo of Bouleboubier
3.97/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

(found and consumed a bottle at Belmont Station, Portland)

A: dark brown and opaque.... leaves molasses-y legs

S: smells of latrine.... caramel/cream-infused coffee, with the roast sanded off

T: Belgian brown, immediate prejudice... kinda like the lovechild of Gouden Carolus Classic and Orval?... mellow sour/tart tinge, sweet phenols, long toffee finish - sum of the parts balance well in the aftertaste.... later, getting more of bubblegum and grapefruit cushioned by thick, velvet malt

M: smooth-ass, med-full body... not hot

O: not bad at all... a little rough around the edges... all in all, Trappist worthy?

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.77/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Murky, reddish brown (SRM 25). A beige, half-inch layer of fine foam settles to a thin blanket, leaving patchy lace behind. Light viscosity and tiny streaming carbonation is visible within the Rochefort chalice.

Quite sweet with candy sugar, sugar plums, light molasses, and possibly honey and clove.

The flavor is every bit as sweet as the nose had suggested. Plums and fresh pumpernickel give way to fruit juice with a sweet malty middle and a sweet finish.

Syrupy texture with a medium to full body punctuated by ample, fine carbonation. The alcohol is controlled, while residual sugar coats the palate and lips.

While more sweet than my impression of this style would anticipate, Gregorius is enjoyable. Lacking layers and complexity expected of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale, this could be considered an entry level, after-work, relaxing beer.

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Photo of mikeg67
4.18/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

500 ml bottle. Pours hazy brown with long lasting, creamy, tanned head. Aroma is of funky yeast, dark fruit, brown sugar, and hints of chocolate and herbal hops. Body is full and crisp. Taste is of chocolate, dark fruit, brown sugar, herbal hops, toasted malt, and hints of wood and alcohol. Finish is long and dry. Wonderful, delicious brew.

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Photo of eduardolinhalis
3.82/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle served in a Chimay chalice.

Best before 02.05.2015. Most probably bottled in 2013 (end of 2012, maybe).

A: Pours a dark and bit cloudy brown color. Some small chunks can be seen when it's poured. Forms a solid creamy beige head with low retention and only few lacings left in the glass. However a thin layer remains forever on the top

S: Roasted and very fruity, mainly. Strong notes of dry dark fruits like raisins and plums. Strong roastiness too: notes of coffee. Strong notes of caramel and candy sugar too. Very bready yeast profile, quite belgian-like. Some alcohol but quite mild considering the high ABV

T: Slightly sweet and roasted upfront. Less sweet than expected. Very fruity. Strong notes of caramel and roasted malts. Bubblegum sensation. Very bready yeasts. End is mild bitter and also a bit spicy after all

M: Heavy, creamy and a bit molasses body. Bready bittersweet aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. The Trappist stamp creates some expectations that this beer cannot accomplish. An authentic Belgian Strong Dark Ale, however, a less remarkable Trappist Ale

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Photo of Etan
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Roscoe Village Pub, in conjunction with WLV for Zwanze 2012.

A: Brown with purplish hues.

S: Yeasty aroma with heavy vinous notes. Grape, raisin, brown bread.

T: Grape, bread, hint of booze, candi sugar, slight hop bitterness.

M. Medium-bodied with zesty carbonation.

O. Fits the trappist mold pretty well, especially for a first try.

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.27/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark brown to nearly black in color. An inch of light beige head rests on top. I smell dark malt and honey. I taste earthy dark malt and honey but it just seems a bit too simplistic. The mouth is fairly carbonated and tastes of alcohol. There's a moderate dark malt aftertaste.

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Photo of jroberts8811
4.3/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured on tap at the Bier Station - Kansas City MO

A: dark, can't see any effervescence through the haze. dark brown

S: bready, malty, spicy. clove, coriander, banana, yeasty, stone fruit

T: boozy, sweet, malty with spicy undertones.

M: Lighter bodied that I thought. silky, velvety mouthfeel

O: Great overall Trappist product. not in the same league as the Belgian counterparts but delicious nonetheless.

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Photo of Dreadnaught33
3.74/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This beer is labeled as a Belgian strong dark, but if you blindfolded me I would have gone with good to better than average doppelbock that is sweeter than normal. In many ways the yeast and malt is very much in the German vein, the only difference is the addition of sweetness from the added honey.

The beer pours a dark brown, with a ring of brown fizzy head with very little lacing left on the glass. The smell screams doppelbock with a dark, malty bread backbone with a little bit of a earthy sweeter layer over it with some dark fruit with anise as well that reminds me of optimator. Not the fullest aroma ever, it seems thinner than I would have guessed.

The taste really mirrors the smell with what I would describe as a sweet bread with plenty of thick dark malt, raisins, a slight nuttiness, plums, licorice, and just the doppelbock German yeast that is so pronounced. Honey is implied in my mind but I wouldn't have said it was there if I didn't know, it just seems on the sweeter side. Never would I guess this is a Trappist in the way Belgian Trappists are 'Trappist.' Still pretty tasty. Thinner feel, lower carbonation that how it looks, but it rolls over the tongue nicely and leaves a slight lingering savory aftertaste. Not a ton of alcohol in there, it is hidden well.

Overall I was a little underwhelmed after being excited after seeing this new beer with the patented Trappist stamp on it. Not bad, but also not great. Really tastes like a middle of the road dopplebock to my taste.

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Photo of impending
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25


33cl into a tulip. Pours a deep copper bronze, minor tan head, minor lacing.

Aroma is of sweet dark fruits, spicy and herbal. At the last moment faint mentholatum comes forth nicely.

Sweet yet dry. A foundation of mild molasses and semi sweet caramel. A nice herbal bitter long evolving aftertaste like roasted tree bark.
delicious, wonderful at room temp
these may be the first Trappists to brew a stout

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Photo of artoolemomo
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours up about a finger's worth of head which looks to have some retention. The body is light and creamy beige while the body is a muddy chestnut brown which shows dull maroon at the bottom of the glass when it is held up to the light. It would appear that the pour was not finished as the head actually increased a bit. The retention is excellent and it appears I will be waiting a few minutes. Some lacing is left behind.

Nose- Not exactly the most enticing aroma at the moment. Burnt raisin which is almost medicinal with some hints of licorice. Roasted malt notes as well. The nose is perkier from the glass and has strong roasted and coffee notes. The less than enticing aromas from the glass begin to mellow and show molasses and brown sugar. Some caramel.

Taste- Burnt raisin along with the same medicinal notes of the nose. Some saccharine cherry notes. Lots of licorice rises in the middle with a little bit of burnt chocolate/coffee finish. At the moment, this beer is not very palatable and shows poor integration. Faint indication of alcohol with a spicy tingle left on the tongue. Some clove. Some brown sugar and molasses but the sweetness of this beer is a little too much. Roasted malt notes as well. Fortunately, some of the licorice and medicinal aspects have faded but it many not be enough to save this beer. The roasted notes start to dominate and the cloying sweetness does not fade. Some honey. Lots of figs, raisins, and dates but they are far too sweet. This probably could use some age but the initial impression does not make me want to get a bottle to age. Brown bread is present in the flavor profile as well. Some spiciness in addition to clove such as nutmeg and cinnamon.

Mouthfeel- Medium to heavy bodied with some syrup to the texture. Somewhat vinuous.

Drinkability- Way too sweet for me but hides the 9.7% alcohol pretty well. And at 6 bucks a bottle, it's a little pricey when you could just pick up a Rochefort.

Overall- It's not a bad beer; it just doesn't work with my palate. It's worth giving a try, especially if you like sweet beers. Or if you don't- buy a bottle and let it sit. Maybe it will mellow out.

Later notes: This does mellow and the sweetness does become bearable. Notes of oak show themselves. I have changed my scores accordingly.

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Photo of DenisKolkin
3.6/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

330 ml bottle purchased from LCBO for $4 CDN. Served fairly cold into glassware. Nice to see a non Belgian example of a Belgian style. Advertised as 10.5% ABV.

Appearance - dark hazy brown color with some red hues. Tiny half finger of tan head was poured and dissipated quite quickly and left a minuscule soapy collar.

Smell - plenty of dark fruits, figs, plums and prunes, slightly burnt brown sugar, maybe even some grape. Inviting and very fruity. Definitely at least a little reminiscent of the classic dark Belgian ales.

Taste - massive amount of sweetness, burnt sugar, prunes and figs. Boozy too and finishes with some treacle. A bit overwhelming and unbalanced for my tastes. Still reasonable tasty.

Mouthfeel - very sweet and slightly cloying, high level of carbonation, but a bit syrupy, lacks the lightness of others in the style.

Overall - overwhelmingly sweet and cloying, just too much of the figs, prune and treacle combo. Otherwise decent body and enjoyable with a good nose. For the price though, I'd rather enjoy many of the other Belgian alternatives.

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Photo of Dentist666
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into trappist.
Pours cloudy dark brown beer with 0.5-finger off-white head. Smell of dark fruits, apple and honey. Taste of dark fruits, candy sugar, raisin, warming alcohol. Medium-bodied, good brew.

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
86 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.