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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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128 Reviews
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Reviews: 128
Hads: 466
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 11.55%
Wants: 35
Gots: 72 | FT: 3
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Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Reviews: 128 | Hads: 466
Photo of ciderguy
3.28/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle purchased from Beer Planet in Brussels - Was really excited to give this one a try. Pour was just as I hoped it would be, nice and dark and full rocky head. Nose was crazy complex, strong aroma of smoke (if not charring), as well as dark bitter chocolate and black coffee. Good, full mouth feel but just as the nose suggested strong smokey rauch flavor. Almost burnt taste. Taste changed little as the beer slowly warmed. Not bad, but not great either. I would argue the Austrians still have a thing or twto to learn from the Belgians. (542 characters)

Photo of Brabander
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I got this bottle (in a sixpack) from a Dutch guy who went to the abbey in the time the first batch was sold. I gave away five of the six bottles and the sixt was saved for a special occasion.

I was in Austria last week and i decided to take back the bottle to it's country of origin. Drank the bottle in the lovely village of Neustift in the Strubai valley together with an American Facebook friend who was there @ the same time.

Poured out of the bottle into a wine glass, did not have the appropiate glassware with me. Nice head but not spectacular. The smell is normal with a bit caramellic malts in the nose. Taste is not very spectacular when you compare this one with other Trappists.

Glad i got to try this one and that's it! (736 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.76/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from The Birch in Norfolk, Virginia. Served in a cervoise.

Pours a dark chestnut brown with a lasting off-white head. Nice lacing on the sides of the glass and a cap throughout.

The nose starts with some toffee, honey, bread, earth, and a somewhat-woody note. Molasses, brown sugar, and a touch of clove. Slight date character. There's also something in the background that's slightly reminiscent of root beer. Sassafras, maybe? All in all, pretty well integrated and fairly intriguing.

Flavor has a nice honey component alongside some bread and light caramel. Molasses with notes of clove in the background. Not terribly fruity. Dry and toasty.

Medium body and a fairly-dry finish. Ever so slightly astringent. Moderate carbonation.

Overall, very interesting and certainly unique for a Trappist beer. The honey and molasses notes were interesting, with slight spice through the background. I'm looking forward to seeing how this beer/recipe develops over time. (974 characters)

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.05/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Gouyasse tulip glass. Pours a very dark mahogany brown with a fine two finger light tan head with great retention and lacing. Aroma of dark fruit, dark malt, winter spices (clove and cinnamon), slightly vinous. Dense flavor of concentrated dark and dried fruit, dark malt, chocolate, aged wine, hints of cinnamon and clove. Integrated and woody flavors similar to a barrel aged ale. Medium to heavy bodied with excellent creaminess. Complex, unusual and interesting, I enjoyed this new entry into the Trappist beer world very much. (545 characters)

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.04/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

new trappist brew, cool! pours super dark brown, pushing black, no glow at all, with a few inches of bubbly khaki head with fine retention. the nose is quite understated, with some smoked malt and Belgian yeast being the only real obvious notes. the flavor is very opposite, extremely robust and aggressive. its malt heavy, but not sweet, its moderately smoky, but not heavy, its really roasty, but not bitter, just chock full of contradictions. complex and will all the fine mouthfeel characteristics we now expect in trappist brews. its brightly carbonated and its fuller body is made light in this way. texture is a little runny, but it doesn't hurt the outcome. kind of a hard beer to classify, but the alcohol is extraordinarily well hidden and the yeast used is new to me, and I like it a lot. overall a tasty brew, new to shelves, and im curious to see what else they make. would not have known this was made with honey if it didn't say so on the label. (960 characters)

Photo of acevenom
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a snifter glass. Pours dark brown to black with a two-finger length of light tan head. The beer appears to be well carbonated and the head dissipates at a moderate pace. The aroma is fruit forward, smelling a little like cherries and bananas. There are dark roasted malts and caramel. The flavor is much like the nose, which is fruit and malt forward. I get those cherry and banana notes from the yeast as well as dark fruit notes and some mild caramel with the roasted malts. The body is medium to full with strong carbonation. The finish is a little dry and there isn't much of an aftertaste. It's fairly easy drinking despite the high alcohol content. This is an excellent beer, but just so. I would recommend trying this beer if you're a completist for the Trappist breweries or you just like this style. (820 characters)

Photo of dgilks
4.09/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A big thank you to Brabander for this bottle.

A dark, somewhat cloudy mahogany brown colour with a small, but tight, tan head. Nice.

Intense fruity aroma. They are fermenting this high. Nice nutty malt notes and a solid toffee note. Very good.

Malt and fruit dominate. Well balanced like the Belgian Trappists. Nice raisin and date flavour. Some cherry and banana. A little like some of my homebrew with its high sweetness.

Medium body with moderate carbonation. Nice and dry.

A lovely Trappist Ale. This is from an early batch and given that is very good. The ester profile is a little excited but I do like it. (617 characters)

Photo of ehammond1
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle (2012)

Thanks for opening this with me, JealousChalice!

Mahogany and dark brown with a creamy brown head of very small bubbles. Leaves sheets of stick down the glass.

Roasted malt, dark fruits, distinctive Belgian yeast, and some ash and char round out the aroma.

The flavor is very reminiscent of a Belgian dubbel, with dark fruits and distinctive, earthy yeast making up the bulk of the flavor, along with a coffee/char/ash tray flavor lingering in the background.

Medium bodied with creamy carbonation.

Good, but nothing paradigm shifting. (555 characters)

Photo of theruckus33
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle poured into snifter.

A: Pours a beautifu mahogany brown with slight toffee cream head. Dissipates into a thin head that leaves a good lacing with some alcohol legs. Under the light taste I notice a lot of sediment and hop flakes floating in the beer, not completely appealing.

S: Fruity and funky, smell apple, grapefruit, with that typical Belgian yeast funk.

T: Apricots, Granny Smith Apples, grapes, and bubble gum

M: Stays on the mouth for a short time,

O: Okay, it's super rare, so it is worth a buy for "rarity sake". But I wasn't very wowed. (561 characters)

Photo of metter98
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is very dark brown in color (black when viewed from afar) and has a moderate amount of carbonation visible from the bubbles rising near the edges of the glass. It poured with a two finger high beige head that took a long time to die down and consistently left a thin head covering the surface.
S: There are moderate aromas of Belgian yeast and dark fruits in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell but also has some additional flavors of dark malts. Earthy flavors of yeast linger through the finish. No sweetness is detectable.
M: It feels medium-bodied, slightly smooth and a little dry on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: Considering its strength, the alcohol is remarkably well hidden from the taste, which makes this beer very easy to drink. (786 characters)

Photo of PDXHops
2.63/5  rDev -31%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 ounce bottle poured into a St Bernardus goblet. Deep hazy brown with an initially puffy cream-colored head that dies down disappointingly quickly. A bubbly skim clings tenaciously, and a bit of crackly lacing is left up top.

The chief aromas are bready malt and a pronounced woody character that seems out of place, although not altogether unpleasant. Lighter medicinal, dark fruit and leafy notes.

Tastes a bit messy and disjointed. Perhaps some aging would help smooth things out. At this point, though, it's a mishmash of massive candi sugar and dark corn syrup sweetness coupled with a somewhat artificial tasting tangy fruitiness and a ton of alcohol. Just big and boozy vs warming. Milk chocolate, vinous, sugary, woody, cherry pie filling. A lot going on here. It's kind of a mess, truthfully, although I suspect it might be a pleasantly surprising cellar experiment. Pretty nice coating mouthfeel. I find myself unusually intrigued by a mediocre beer. (966 characters)

Photo of jtierney89
3.3/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

deep semi murky brown fluffy off white head that dies rather quickly. smells nutty rich and earthy smells sweet musty and woody.

tastes a lot like the smell. a bit medicinal and booze, very musty semi vinious but not like a good wine. drinkable and good but I'm not sure if it's up to trappist standards (304 characters)

Photo of avalon07
4.24/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a dark brown color and a cloudy texture. There was a small amount of off white, foamy head that quickly dissipated. Fair lacing.

S: A nice aroma of dark fruit, yeast, and malt.

T: Tasted of Belgian yeast, cherries, caramel, apples, and some malt. A complex, focused, enjoyable flavor. Very easy to like this one.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a smooth (bordering on slick) finish. Medium-bodied.

O: A solidly made, drinkable beer. I'm surprised this one has as low a rating as it does. Still, a tasty beer. (558 characters)

Photo of BlackBelt5112203
3.11/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into a chalice at cellar temperature.

L – Cloudy deep brown color with a 1-finger bubbly, creamy tan head. Pretty good retention and nice lacing.

S – Wow there are a lot of medicinal phenols here. Honestly this smells like cherry Robitussin to me. If I try to get past that, I can get some toasted and roasted malts, molasses, chocolate, and cloves.

T – Once again, the cherry Robitussin is there. Again, if I’m looking past this, it starts sweet with caramel malt, molasses, dark cherries, and possibly a bit of chocolate. Medicinal phenols appear quickly along with spicy black pepper and clove yeast notes. Some coffee-like roasted malt appears at the finish.

F – Medium-bodied with decent carbonation, a sticky and mouth-coating feel, and a sweet dark cherry medicinal finish that lasts for a while. Alcohol is slightly noticeable in a throat-warming sensation at the finish.

O – This beer is not great. It’s not so bad if you can get by the Robitussin, but it just takes so much effort to do so. The phenols are just too pervasive in the aroma and flavor. By looking at the current reviews, I only see a couple other people even mention phenols. Maybe others don’t see it or maybe it doesn’t bother them, but it’s too much for me. In my opinion, there are much better Belgian strong dark ales out there. (1,354 characters)

Photo of apintofknowledge
2.98/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours deep chestnut with a medium cream-colored head
Aroma: Herbal, yeast, slightly medicinal, with a hints of smoke and wood (not that I can think of any reason for these to be in there given what I know about the beer)
Mouthfeel: Medium body with a fizzy, effervescent carbonation
Taste: Initially mildly sweet, slightly nutty, into a slightly medicinal and vinegar-like middle, with hints of red wine, sweetened cocoa and plum, finishing in a dry, musty, tart cherry flavor reminiscent of cough syrup. In reading this back it actually tastes a bit better than the flavor notes I make here. Still, all the flavors are somewhat subtle and somewhat muddled, with only a lingering leathery tartness left on my palate.
Overall: Not at all what I was expecting, and not really sure how to categorize this one. Sometimes not fitting within a style or definition is good, but this beer is a bit of an enigma, and I have nothing to really compare it with, but also nothing to truly define it. In the end, I just didn't really love the taste. While Stift Engelszell's other current beer (Benno) is also beyond style boundaries, I quite enjoyed that one. I'm not sure I'd pick this one up again. (1,199 characters)

Photo of BlackHaddock
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1st beer of 2013: 33cl bottle poured @ home into a Westvleteren chalice, just to make it feel at one with the Trappist world. Some sediment got into the chalice but the beer still looked fine: reddy brown body with a full tanned foaming head.

The nose is malts all the way: molasses and a yeastiness with red berries actually lead the aroma stakes with traces of off Port notes adding a slightly vinegar feel to the overall smell.

The taste was a heavenly blend/mix of flavours: matly, fruity and yeasty. Semi-sweet with that aforementioned Port off-vinegar feel keeping the brew interesting and different.

Body wise it is fine and I thought the beer well worth finding and tasting. A long way from being the best or even one of the best ’Trappist’ brews but never the less a good beer. (793 characters)

Photo of Dennoman
3.62/5  rDev -5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Ah, the (in)famous eigth trappist beer. Let's see what all the fuss is about, shall we?

2012 bottle, 33 cl. Didn't as much gush when opened, but kept frothing up significantly. Took five minutes to pour.

A: Poured with the yeast, as I always do, this looks like a latté. Pours a murky, creamy brown with a massive beige head. Head disappates to a half finger in ten minutes or so. Fairly appealing, but strange color.

S: Burnt toast and yeasty aroma, something slightly acidic resembling fresh coffee bean roast, even though there's no coffee in here. Roasted malts I'm guessing. No hops to speak of.

T: Roasty onset, smooth middle and a roasty bitter finish. Not very complex, but roastier than any of the other trappists. This leans more towards the stout spectrum of things. Slight booze undercurrent.

M: Creamy, smooth, almost powdery and dry finish. This is one of those beers that MAKE you thirsty. Not great, but befitting the style I guess.

O: Definitely one of the better trappists, but so unusual it's hard to brand it as thus. Nice roastiness that's reminiscent of a decent stout, but it's mostly the muddy brown color and strange powdery mouthfeel that just don't do it for me. Would recommend and drink if given to me, but not likely buy again until it drops in price here, which is likely to happen in the next few years. (1,342 characters)

Photo of GuyIncognito
3/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got this bottle from a friend who works at a distributor. I really wanted to like it- 8th trappist beer, from Austria, made with alsatian wine yeast, etc. etc., but it was just a boozy mess. Unimpressive appearance, strong phenols, and lackadaisical finish. At 9.7 abv it packs a punch, but it is a boring, slightly off, punch. (329 characters)

Photo of Jeffo
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Present from Sinter Klaas a few weeks ago. Thanks Doops!

From a bottle into a snifter
Best before 08.11.2014
10 cent refund in Quebec

APPEARANCE: Pours a small, looser, fizzy, cream-white head with lousy retention for the style. Fizzes away to a faint wisp and ring rather quickly. Clear, dark ruby or chestnut red with medium levels of carbonation. A ring remains but leaves no real lacing down the glass. An unimpressive head, and actually looks like an old Rochefort 10.

SMELL: Caramel, toffee, light butterscotch, some fruit notes, like raisins and red berries, as well as some spicy yeast qualities. Milder, but definitely different and interesting, especially in the malt bill.

TASTE: Caramel, raisins, as well as some red fruits and berry notes before a boozy and spicy finish at the swallow. Quite bold in flavor. Aftertaste is very spicy and yeasty, with some sweet caramel, a touch of hop bitterness, as well as a good dose of alcohol. Lots of clove, coriander, and yeasty spices. Boozy as well. Really nice, though a touch too boozy for top marks.

PALATE: Medium-fuller body with medium levels of carbonation. Quite creamy smooth for sure, goes down smooth and finishes slightly dry. A bit of a scratch at the swallow and some heat lingers. Weighty and creamy smooth with a full body. Solid.

OVERALL: This is quite good and somewhat unique in flavor for the style. Good and interesting flavor profile and a full, creamy feel for the style. The look could use some more work, but this is still a solid, solid beer. A wonderful addition to the trappiste lineup. Cheers again Doops! (1,601 characters)

Photo of BeerIsland
4.45/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A FaceBook alert had me out on the trail for this draft. Deep brown with a sweet head made this an attactive tulip. This is a complex, big beer but tart enough to desire a second. Although Belgian style through and through, the Austrian have provided enough of a different take to stand out. Thanks, Paul, for getting this one on. (330 characters)

Photo of fishdoc
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Lizardville in Bedford Heights, Ohio.

Appearance: Amber, very cloudy, but the bartender said it has been clearing since it was tapped moments before I was served. Small white head, little to no lacing.

Smell: Complex, sweet yet spicy, hint of roses.

Taste: Candy sugar is first, almost to excess. Then comes bitter chocolate with a very dry finish.

Mouthfeel: Lower carbonation than an abbey style, but appropriate for a Trappist.

Overall: Quite different from the other Trappist ales I have had. It will be on the World Tour at the Winking Lizard in 2013 and I look forward to a second look. (608 characters)

Photo of Etan
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Roscoe Village Pub, in conjunction with WLV for Zwanze 2012.

A: Brown with purplish hues.

S: Yeasty aroma with heavy vinous notes. Grape, raisin, brown bread.

T: Grape, bread, hint of booze, candi sugar, slight hop bitterness.

M. Medium-bodied with zesty carbonation.

O. Fits the trappist mold pretty well, especially for a first try. (349 characters)

Photo of mxchap
3.3/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Medium dark brown color. Poured in a 15cL glass, so no comment(s) on head/retention.
Aroma: Candied fruits (prunes and cherries). Chocolate and caramel malt.
Taste: Bready / malty with spices and some hot alcohol. The finishing flavor of this beer is quite odd and frankly makes the beer sub-par. The candied fruit flavor smacks your tongue at the end with such force. It's almost like a sweet red wine.
Mouthfeel: Strong, alcohol noticeable. Sticky at the finish. Light-medium carbonation.
Overall: A weird beer, but it does have some redeeming qualities (notably aroma and mouthfeel). The fermentation procedures and quantity of adjuncts do not seem to be typical. However, this beer does have a lot of potential. (727 characters)

Photo of TMoney2591
3.03/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tumbler at Local Option.

I had to start off with the newest Trappist brewery, didn't I? This stuff pours a clear topaz topped by over a finger of khaki foam. The nose comprises caramel, toffee, stone fruits, fig, and light clove. The taste brings in more of the same, though unfortunately accompanied by some musty apple/white wine grape character throughout. This flavor just ruins everything, literally leaving a bad taste in my mouth. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, it seemed as though the Local Option crew agreed with me that this beer, though well-looked-forward-to, really fell flat on its face, especially with that weird flavor in there (which is exacerbated by the alcohol level). Without any hesitation, this is the worst Trappist beer I've ever had. Hopefully I can try more from this brewery in the future, though (meaning: Engelszell, don't try to be Orval, 'cause this nonsense ain't no Orval, homies!). (989 characters)

Photo of WillCarrera
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

On-tap at Churchkey in DC, poured into a balloon glass.

A- Pours nearly black, held up to light it reveals some burgundy hues, produces a thin khaki head.

S- Mix of dark fruits (fig, dates, raisins), and roasted malt, maybe some coffee and dark chocolate.

T-Big sweet flavor, at first I'm getting a lot of roasted grain with coffee and chocolate, almost porter-like, but on subsequent sips the dark fruit becomes more prominent. Lots of figs, raisins, maybe some leather. There's a bit of sweet, fruity alcohol on the end with medicinal phenol flavor.

M- Medium to full-bodied, creamy, rich feel.

O- A very interesting beer, it definitely sets itself apart from its Belgian counterparts, definitely give this a try, although the fruity, rich sweetness makes it a sipper. (776 characters)

Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
86 out of 100 based on 128 ratings.