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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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Reviews: 135
Hads: 486
Avg: 3.81
pDev: 23.88%
Wants: 37
Gots: 79 | FT: 2
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Stift Engelszell
Austria | website

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale | 9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of mothmanscott
4.18/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a murky, prune juice reddish-brown producing less than a single finger of tightly bubbled, tan, shortlived head that leaves minimal lace. Aroma is malty burnt brown sugar, molasses, dark fruits, anise, spice, earthy hops, some wood & musty hay/hints of dark honey, Belgian funk & light alcohol. Taste is dark malts, sugary dark bread, anise, fig, prune, raisins, soured fruit, brown sugar, smoke, earth, alcohol & faint honey with lots of lively pepper & spice especially from mid-sip through the lightly bitter & warm finish. Aftertaste is malty, earthy woody & sweet with an alcohol prominence that fades to a faint bitter astringency. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with lively carbonation, spicy/prickly & crisp & somewhat dry late in the sip.

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Photo of flagmantho
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 330mL bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: medium-dark brown hue with plenty of murk and two fingers of frothy tan foam. The head has good retention and the color is great.

Smell: very sweet with a nice dark-fruit character of date, raisin and cherry. It's not hugely complex, but it's still pretty damn nice.

Taste: a little bit richer and deeper than the aroma, but along the same theme; dates, figs and tobacco are the primary flavors here. There's also a nice dustiness toward the end that I tend to enjoy in the style. A fine beer.

Mouthfeel: medium-rich body with a good carbonation and a very satisfying creaminess. Quite nice.

Overall: I like this beer quite a lot. It hits my favorite areas for the style quite nicely.

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Photo of DeepJello
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Dated 02/2104.

A: Gusher. Bubbly. Pours a dark muddled brown, almost a dark ruby color. Half a fingers worth of white/brownish head. Some sediment.
S: Strong earthy tones/yeast. Light plums and cherries, dark fruit. Slight smell of sweet alcohol, lingering in the back end.
T: Very complex. Flavors of bread/yeast, mild dark fruits, plum, tobacco, light smoke. Alcohol is unnoticeable and well hidden.
M: Highly carbonated and alive. Dances on the tongue. Coats the mouth with bran flakes, plum, tobacco, and alcohol.
O: It's a very complex beer. Kind of driving my taste buds crazy right now, not in a bad way. Alcohol is well hidden throughout the beer. I like this beer more than most of the Americanized versions of a Belgian strong dark.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.09/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I purchased this at Brass Rail, enjoyed chilled in a tulip

The color is dark cocoa brown with 3 fingers of rocky sandstone head with lace that sticks to the glass. The smell is very interesting -lots of fruity esters with plum and vinous elements with slight black cherry aroma and dark sugar smell and woody accent with bready scent. The feel is strong with sweet entry and yeast texture with subtle spice and medium high carbonation with semi-dry finish and low alcohol influence.

The taste is somewhat date-like with sweet dark cherry-like flavor and earthy vinous and slightly toasted malt flavor with slight alcohol emerging as it warms with a tobacco-like earthy element with a burnt sugar flavor and dark caramel quality almost prune-like with a full sweet and dried fruit flavor. Overall this is a pretty excellent dark belgian ale with some nice yeast complexity and very drinkable in general for the 10% abv

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Photo of Bitterbill
4.22/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I bought this as part of a gift pack that included Benno and the glass.

Bottled in February 2014.

It pours a hazy, no cloudy rusty brown with a huge head of foam that is great with the lacing.

The smell has quite a bit of bitterness to it yet there's a honey sweetness going on as well. Perhaps some molasses but more interestingly, I can smell some funky notes.

The honey is the first thing I notice in the taste; quite sweet on my palate. The bitterness I noted in the smell is very citrus like in the taste and the the curious funk smell...I get that too. A very complicated beer here, I reckon.

Full bodied, medium carbonation.

This is most definitely a "weird" brew and I reckon a very polarizing one. Put me in the camp that likes it.

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Photo of bushbeer75
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

11.2 oz brown bottle - brewed 1/2013 noted on the label

Stift Engelszell Gregorius poured a very dark brown almost black hue that featured a nice 2-finger tan and bubbly head. The nose smells a dark caramel malt and dark fruit. The flavor is also dominated by sweet dark malts, dark bread with a little chocolate noted. There is a pleasant alcohol warming at the finish. The mouth feel is creamy with a bubbly carbonation and has a high-medium body.

Overall, this is a flavorful and enjoyable Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

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Photo of KornWallace
4.18/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Date: 11/3/14
Location: DeCicco's Harrison
Draught/Bottle: Brown Bottle
Glassware: Snifter

Appearance: Dark brown to ruby copper in color. Pours with a one inch off what head that looks rather fluffy for a strong ale. The alcohol clearly beats the carbonation back down again. Flecks of yeast can be observed near the bottom of the glass
Aroma: Starts with a candied sweetness melding with honey. Dark malts follow providing a more mellow earthy malts and some own malt sweetness of their own.
Taste: So many flavors but again starting with a slight variant on the sweetness as the sugar moves closer to brown sugar flavored. Followed by intense dark fruits ranging from grapes to plums. The alcohol really pushes away the malt flavors and dominate the flavors.
Mouthfeel: Medium body but different layers present themselves making the beer feel heavier. High carbonation reminds you that this bottle conditioning has been going on and that this beer is very much alive. The beer provides a good deal of alcohol warmth.

Notes: My first non Belgian Trappist ale this is a fantastic addition to the class. The next I'd like to enjoy is from Spencer.

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Photo of RonaldTheriot
4.88/5  rDev +28.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Gregorius has a vaport train out the bottle neck, a thin, cream-colored head, a dark brown appearance, minimal lacing, and an incredible amount of pretty large tan chunks which settle at the bottom, making this beer almost a semi-solid beverage. The aroma is intense, and the drinker will pick up a multiplicity of smells, including grape skin, wine, vinegar, Maraschino cherries, acid, duck sauce, yeast, brown bread, bread crust, honey, lo mien noodles, and spice. Taste is likewise complex, with flavors including all of the above, plus smoked pork, Warheads sweet & sour candies, pine oil, licorice, prunes, butter, and assorted spices. Mouthfeel is heavy and chewy, and Gregorius finishes wet and cloying and munch-able. Overall, this is an outstanding beer, at a minimum, and I recommend it, in the strongest possible terms.

RJT

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Photo of Roguer
4.19/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful super dark brown and opaque beer. Light at the edges reveals floaties and a nut brown hue. Strong tan head with phenomenal retention and wide lacing.

Strong, dominant aroma: sweet dark fruit (figs and prunes), malts (toffee, caramel, and cocoa), a hint of spices (nutmeg), and nuts. Classic Quad/Dubbel aroma.

Flavor is sweet, fruity, and malty up front; prunes, plums, cherries, and raisins carry the day, riding the backs of dark, sweet fruitbread; hints of spices and cocoa, and impressions of walnuts and pecans. There is a curious, slightly overripe sourness that comes through on the back-end and lingers through the aftertaste.

Thick, cloying mouthfeel; slight alcohol heat on the sticky finish; minor puckering; lively with no sting. Very impressive mouthfeel and character for the ABV.

This is an excellent quad, on par with the best American versions I've had. That lasting overripe sourness, however, keeps it firmly from the territory of Rochefort et al. A wonderfully crafted and delicious beer.

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Photo of beergoot
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer bottled 2013/06 per the bottle label.

Dark brown body topped with a rich, light tan head (3.75). Currants, figs, brown sugar and molasses, chewing tobacco aromas (4.25). Rich and sweet flavors mixed with a bitter and boozy; flavors mimicking much of the aroma (4.0). Medium-heavy body; big carbonation; syrupy (3.5).

Aside from a rather rough mouthfeel, this is a fine tasting, great smelling strong ale. Huge dark ale flavors of ripe, dark fruits with a nice, stinging twinge of alcohol and coarse bitterness.

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Photo of patre_tim
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

A: Dark brown, cloudy with a barrage of fine bubbles rising within the middle of the chalice. Topped with 2 fingers of creamy beige, foamy head. Sticky gelatinous lacing as I swirl the glass.


S: Cherries, raisins, it’s a lot like a cherry coke. Dark fruits and cherries, light floral notes. Cherries and raisins sums up the scent.


T: Cherries, raisins, dark fruits, some dried figs, snow, light sweetness, and a light acidic quality. Alcohol is hidden, but shows on the throat and back of the tongue. It has this sort of leather, tannic acid quality that is somewhat sour, like fermented milk.


M: Thick body with very foamy carbonation. It reminds me of powdered rock candy or a self foaming tablet in the mouth. It seems to continue to foam on entry.


O: So thrilled to have found this at Bruisin Ales in Asheville. A year and a half earlier, a misinformed tour guide at a brewery told me that beer from this brewery was only likely to available in the next 5 years by going to Europe. Never saw it in Belgium. Thrilled to have seen it at least in two places in the US recently. Drinking this one in my Orval chalice in Kunming, China as my 1000th beer reviewed on Beeradvocate.

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Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.15/5  rDev -17.3%

A 330ml bottle with a BB of June 2014, so it's a bit out of date. Acquired ages ago from Trembling Madness in York and stashed away. I'm hoping age will have improved it. The ingredient list mentions honey....

A: Poured into a Duvel tulip. Bottle conditioned - this contains a vast amount of slimy sediment that looks like snot (perhaps 10-15%). Rather unappetising to put it mildly, and not what I want to see in an expensive brew. A dark brown hue that appears virtually black in the glass. Holding it to the light reveals plenty of floating chunks that I take to be yeast. Yields a small head of beige foam that disappears rapidly. Quite disgusting.

S: Aroma of sweet, fruity malt with hints of prunes, raisins, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, marzipan, subtle yeast esters and a touch of stewed leaves. A warming whiff of booze in the background.

T: Tastes of sweet, fruity malt that borders on cloying, with a subtle bitter finish. Notes of prunes, dried fruit, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, faint marzipan, stewed leaves, harsh cardboard and fruity yeast esters. A touch of solventy alcohol in the background. Quite sweet, followed by a restrained, herbal bitterness upon swallowing.

M: Mouthfeel is smooth and tingly, with effervescent carbonation and good body. A slightly harsh quality on the palate. Somewhat astringent, accompanied by an aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt, stewed leaves and acrid cardboard.

O: Disappointing; particularly the gunk in the bottle. Unpleasant looks, while the aroma and flavour are rich and sweet with harsh undertones. Body is OK. It resembles a quad but hasn't aged as well as I might have wished. Fruity but plagued by off-notes and generally unsatisfying. Perhaps this is just a bad bottle - the potential is certainly there. I may re-review if I get the chance. That said - caveat emptor.

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Photo of rangerred
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

330ml bottle into a goblet.

Pours a hazy very dark brown with a fluffy light tan head that doesn't stick around for a very long time. There is a lack of lacing as well.

Aroma is almost like cherry juice. Smells strongly of dark fruit with some caramel and molasses. Not bad but seems a bit sweet.

The flavor hits very hard with the cherry and plum. It is very fruity with the sweetness to go along with it unfortunately. Caramel and honey comes in later with a quick shot of wood and alcohol. Sweetness lingers through the finish with alcoholic warmth.

Overall, this beer is just not that refined and complex. It is actually somewhat disappointing for a Trappist beer. Nothing to go out of your way for.

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Photo of deg
4.49/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I poured the beer into a chalice. Unfortunately I lost a little beer because the beer foamed as soon as I opened the bottle. I suspect there's a little too much yeast in the bottle. The beer was a good dark color. The head never completely dissappated. I smelled fruit, like figs and raisins. The taste was rich with malt and fruit. The beer had a creamy consistency.

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Photo of Ciocanelu
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Very dark amber color with beige head. Aroma has a lot of dark sugar and plums. Taste follows with dark fruits and yeasty spiciness. Leans just a bit to the sweet side but overall it's quite balanced. Medium-full body and medium-high carbonation. Overall it's a good beer but nothing really special.

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Photo of Flounder57
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle was poured into a chalice.

Appearance: A one finger off white head was poured that reduced to a thin layer. It is a dark amber brown color with no vision of anything.

Smell: Plums, raisins, figs, spicy yeast, warm booze, cherry, and tobacco.

Taste: Lots of dark fruit goodness, spicy yeast, clove, honey, deceiving booze for 9.7%, and a little bitterness in the end too.

Mouthfeel: Silky smooth, sweet, little dry, medium to full bodied, low to medium carbonation, and warm booze.

Overall: Very enjoyable beer to start my birthday. Might have to go fact and get another bottle.

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.27/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark brown to nearly black in color. An inch of light beige head rests on top. I smell dark malt and honey. I taste earthy dark malt and honey but it just seems a bit too simplistic. The mouth is fairly carbonated and tastes of alcohol. There's a moderate dark malt aftertaste.

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Photo of allengarvin
4.35/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a chalice glass. This is a dark mahogany colored beer with a light tan head, about a finger's height. The nose features clovy, spicy phenols, slightly woody, with a touch of caramel malt and some light ripe fruitiness. The flavor is rather heady, with malt that's more substantial than the well-known Belgian trappists, bready with caramel and toffee. Nicely phenolic as well, giving a peppery, clovy edge. Yeasty esters are present but not a major component. Strong enough to be warming, though without any tastable alcohol. Good mouthfeel, but not heavy.

Nice addition to the trappist lineup. I'd like to think with the malt they're separating themselves from the default more northern standard for the style.

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Photo of patra7
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Served in a big wine glass.
Appearance: Light beige, 1-finger tall, head; Brown/red color.
Smell: Blue cheese, alcohol, molasses, hints of roastiness
Taste: Malty, hints of blue cheese
Mouthfeel: Thin body, slick texture, a bit oily
Drinkability: Very interesting, complex and pleasant. The high alcohol content starts to strike you after the first half.

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Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
3.72/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: Dusty mahogany with a tan head. No lacing. Bottle art is uninspiring.

S: A little subdued; tart cherry, some faint yeast/woody malt.

T: Verging on sour, with cherries at the forefront, a drying mineral yeast finish. Hints of sweetness.

M: Seesaws from extremely velvety to medium bodied and prickled carbonation. Interesting, and works with the rest of the beer.

O: Just didn't quite cut it for me. Pretty good, but a little too timid on the aroma and taste- possibly suffering from the high alcohol?

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Photo of dcmchew
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Newest addition to the "Trappist beer order", so it's my chance to find out if it was only a commercial move, or if it really deserves the small stamp on the label (quality-wise).
Starts foaming right after popping the cap. Pours dark brown, almost one finger tan head, nice retention, turns into a thin foamy cap, sticky lacing.
Smell of figs, plums, caramel, toffee, chocolate, soy sauce, honeycomb and a bit of Belgian spiciness.
Very juicy dark fruit up front (raisin, fig, plum, dark grape), a bit musty, mixed with burnt sugar, a bit of lemon zest, some faint cherries and decently strong coffee. Spicy yeasts, with very prickly pepper, faint clove, some aromatic herbs/flowers too. Roasted dark malts and breadiness settle towards the finish, and that's where the alcohol gets really strong (a tiny medicinal hint also, unfortunately). Black tea bitterness is last, mild, accompanied by some lingering roast.
Round body, chewy, medium carbonation that helps the spicy prickle. Aftertaste malty, a nice tasty sweetness and booze (weirdly, a bit tongue-numbing).
A tasty Belgian beer, but might be the weakest of the Trappist bunch. Quite some off notes, hopefully there wasn't something wrong with my bottle. I'll try more, but i don't really think the review will be different.

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Photo of Beric
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Serving: Bottle into Stift Engelszell teku glass
Served: 3 May 2014

Appearance: Deep, hazy brown with an off-white, tannish two finger head that collapses into a ring of foam around the edges of the glass. Leaves slight lacing. Beer looks beautiful...until the bottom of the glass. This one is bottle fermented, so there is obviously suspended yeast, however, at the bottom of the glass there were these nasty semi-solid yeast clumps to the point where I just couldn't stomach it. It looked gross.

Smell: Sweet, rich caramel, molasses, and toffee notes in the nose.

Taste: If you told me this was a dubbel or a doppelbock I would believe you. Honestly, this tastes like a sweeter version of Korbinian that is a little rougher around the edges. Creamy, gooey caramel and thick molasses are the primary tastes in this one, just like you'd expect from a dubbel or doppelbock. This does NOT taste like Maudite, which is also labeled a "Belgian Strong Dark Ale".

Mouthfeel: Good body and carbonation. Thick on the tongue. Minus points for the awkward yeast clumps.

Overall: This is a great beer with good promise. I think stylistically this is more in-tune with a dubbel or doppelbock rather than how it's currently labeled. Comparing this with Trois Pistoles or Maudite is like comparing two entirely different beers because, well, they are. Elimination of the yeast clumps would make this beer significantly better in appearance and mouthfeel, but the taste is quite good and largely redeems this brew.

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Photo of Dreadnaught33
3.74/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This beer is labeled as a Belgian strong dark, but if you blindfolded me I would have gone with good to better than average doppelbock that is sweeter than normal. In many ways the yeast and malt is very much in the German vein, the only difference is the addition of sweetness from the added honey.

The beer pours a dark brown, with a ring of brown fizzy head with very little lacing left on the glass. The smell screams doppelbock with a dark, malty bread backbone with a little bit of a earthy sweeter layer over it with some dark fruit with anise as well that reminds me of optimator. Not the fullest aroma ever, it seems thinner than I would have guessed.

The taste really mirrors the smell with what I would describe as a sweet bread with plenty of thick dark malt, raisins, a slight nuttiness, plums, licorice, and just the doppelbock German yeast that is so pronounced. Honey is implied in my mind but I wouldn't have said it was there if I didn't know, it just seems on the sweeter side. Never would I guess this is a Trappist in the way Belgian Trappists are 'Trappist.' Still pretty tasty. Thinner feel, lower carbonation that how it looks, but it rolls over the tongue nicely and leaves a slight lingering savory aftertaste. Not a ton of alcohol in there, it is hidden well.

Overall I was a little underwhelmed after being excited after seeing this new beer with the patented Trappist stamp on it. Not bad, but also not great. Really tastes like a middle of the road dopplebock to my taste.

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Photo of biegaman
3.97/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Gregorius is a mighty sounding name but this beer looks like hoisin sauce: dark, thick, flat. Not terribly intimidating. The bottle had so much sediment that the glass looks half full of liquid, half full of sand. Indeed yeast has a more visible presence than carbonation; there's no head at all.

Speaking of Asian sauces, the way this smells it could double as a sticky balsamic and soy glaze. The malt has a tinge of burnt sugar and ripe purple plum. There's also a substantial amount of anise seed and black pepper; the aroma may be darker than the appearance.

I've never tried knotting a bruised banana peel with my tongue but I imagine this is the taste it might leave in my mouth. This beer combines numerous fruits (banana, date, raisin, fig, apple) and what each flavour has in common is that they taste heavily bruised. The anise, clove, and mace give it a compote-like profile. It is at once spicy, savory, and sweet.

This particular sample is approaching one year in age but shows no signs of slowing down; the yeast is perfumed and effervescent as always. The alcohol enhances that spiciness and, as such, stays relatively disguised (there's enough maltiness to keep it at bay anyhow). The beer ends on a note of black licorice, baking spice, and clover honey.

Gregorius may lack that certain 'je ne sais quoi' of time-honoured Belgian monastic Quads, but Austria's first (and thus far only) Trappist brewery seems to be off to the right start. This is a very serviceable and satiating strong, rich, dark ale. The use of honey is purely incidental amidst such spicy yeast, formidable alcohol, and heavy maltiness, but still this recipe needs no changing.

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Photo of gr0g
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown, not quite black. Good head retention that leaves streaks of tan lace. Aroma has more dark, toasted malt than dark fruit notes, unlike many other BDSAs. A little bit of sweetness on the nose that doesn't smell like Belgian candi sugar. Given that honey is listed among the ingredients, I'll attribute it to that. Faint solvent-like alcohol detracts a bit.

The robust, malty flavor is nonetheless well-balanced. Some sweetness upfront is attenuated by hop bitterness. Toasted malt is prevalent, almost stout/porter-like in that respect. Carbonation is active and abundant but not harsh. There's a slight alcohol note that's OK for a nearly 10% ABV beer.

If I didn't know this was a Trappist brewery out of Austria I'd think it was an American brewery trying their hand at the style, what with the seemingly aggressive hopping to keep things balanced. It's a good beer but not nearly as refined as the established Trappist offerings.

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
86 out of 100 based on 135 ratings.