Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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Ratings: 450
Reviews: 123
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 12.47%
Wants: 34
Gots: 64 | FT: 2
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Austria

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.15/5  rDev -18.2%

A 330ml bottle with a BB of June 2014, so it's a bit out of date. Acquired ages ago from Trembling Madness in York and stashed away. I'm hoping age will have improved it. The ingredient list mentions honey....

A: Poured into a Duvel tulip. Bottle conditioned - this contains a vast amount of slimy sediment that looks like snot (perhaps 10-15%). Rather unappetising to put it mildly, and not what I want to see in an expensive brew. A dark brown hue that appears virtually black in the glass. Holding it to the light reveals plenty of floating chunks that I take to be yeast. Yields a small head of beige foam that disappears rapidly. Quite disgusting.

S: Aroma of sweet, fruity malt with hints of prunes, raisins, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, marzipan, subtle yeast esters and a touch of stewed leaves. A warming whiff of booze in the background.

T: Tastes of sweet, fruity malt that borders on cloying, with a subtle bitter finish. Notes of prunes, dried fruit, fruitcake, brown sugar, mild molasses, faint marzipan, stewed leaves, harsh cardboard and fruity yeast esters. A touch of solventy alcohol in the background. Quite sweet, followed by a restrained, herbal bitterness upon swallowing.

M: Mouthfeel is smooth and tingly, with effervescent carbonation and good body. A slightly harsh quality on the palate. Somewhat astringent, accompanied by an aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt, stewed leaves and acrid cardboard.

O: Disappointing; particularly the gunk in the bottle. Unpleasant looks, while the aroma and flavour are rich and sweet with harsh undertones. Body is OK. It resembles a quad but hasn't aged as well as I might have wished. Fruity but plagued by off-notes and generally unsatisfying. Perhaps this is just a bad bottle - the potential is certainly there. I may re-review if I get the chance. That said - caveat emptor.

Photo of rangerred
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

330ml bottle into a goblet.

Pours a hazy very dark brown with a fluffy light tan head that doesn't stick around for a very long time. There is a lack of lacing as well.

Aroma is almost like cherry juice. Smells strongly of dark fruit with some caramel and molasses. Not bad but seems a bit sweet.

The flavor hits very hard with the cherry and plum. It is very fruity with the sweetness to go along with it unfortunately. Caramel and honey comes in later with a quick shot of wood and alcohol. Sweetness lingers through the finish with alcoholic warmth.

Overall, this beer is just not that refined and complex. It is actually somewhat disappointing for a Trappist beer. Nothing to go out of your way for.

Photo of deg
4.49/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I poured the beer into a chalice. Unfortunately I lost a little beer because the beer foamed as soon as I opened the bottle. I suspect there's a little too much yeast in the bottle. The beer was a good dark color. The head never completely dissappated. I smelled fruit, like figs and raisins. The taste was rich with malt and fruit. The beer had a creamy consistency.

Photo of Flounder57
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle was poured into a chalice.

Appearance: A one finger off white head was poured that reduced to a thin layer. It is a dark amber brown color with no vision of anything.

Smell: Plums, raisins, figs, spicy yeast, warm booze, cherry, and tobacco.

Taste: Lots of dark fruit goodness, spicy yeast, clove, honey, deceiving booze for 9.7%, and a little bitterness in the end too.

Mouthfeel: Silky smooth, sweet, little dry, medium to full bodied, low to medium carbonation, and warm booze.

Overall: Very enjoyable beer to start my birthday. Might have to go fact and get another bottle.

Photo of Franziskaner
3.27/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Dark brown to nearly black in color. An inch of light beige head rests on top. I smell dark malt and honey. I taste earthy dark malt and honey but it just seems a bit too simplistic. The mouth is fairly carbonated and tastes of alcohol. There's a moderate dark malt aftertaste.

Photo of allengarvin
4.35/5  rDev +13%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a chalice glass. This is a dark mahogany colored beer with a light tan head, about a finger's height. The nose features clovy, spicy phenols, slightly woody, with a touch of caramel malt and some light ripe fruitiness. The flavor is rather heady, with malt that's more substantial than the well-known Belgian trappists, bready with caramel and toffee. Nicely phenolic as well, giving a peppery, clovy edge. Yeasty esters are present but not a major component. Strong enough to be warming, though without any tastable alcohol. Good mouthfeel, but not heavy.

Nice addition to the trappist lineup. I'd like to think with the malt they're separating themselves from the default more northern standard for the style.

Photo of patra7
3.8/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Served in a big wine glass.
Appearance: Light beige, 1-finger tall, head; Brown/red color.
Smell: Blue cheese, alcohol, molasses, hints of roastiness
Taste: Malty, hints of blue cheese
Mouthfeel: Thin body, slick texture, a bit oily
Drinkability: Very interesting, complex and pleasant. The high alcohol content starts to strike you after the first half.

Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
3.72/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: Dusty mahogany with a tan head. No lacing. Bottle art is uninspiring.

S: A little subdued; tart cherry, some faint yeast/woody malt.

T: Verging on sour, with cherries at the forefront, a drying mineral yeast finish. Hints of sweetness.

M: Seesaws from extremely velvety to medium bodied and prickled carbonation. Interesting, and works with the rest of the beer.

O: Just didn't quite cut it for me. Pretty good, but a little too timid on the aroma and taste- possibly suffering from the high alcohol?

Photo of dcmchew
3.92/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Newest addition to the "Trappist beer order", so it's my chance to find out if it was only a commercial move, or if it really deserves the small stamp on the label (quality-wise).
Starts foaming right after popping the cap. Pours dark brown, almost one finger tan head, nice retention, turns into a thin foamy cap, sticky lacing.
Smell of figs, plums, caramel, toffee, chocolate, soy sauce, honeycomb and a bit of Belgian spiciness.
Very juicy dark fruit up front (raisin, fig, plum, dark grape), a bit musty, mixed with burnt sugar, a bit of lemon zest, some faint cherries and decently strong coffee. Spicy yeasts, with very prickly pepper, faint clove, some aromatic herbs/flowers too. Roasted dark malts and breadiness settle towards the finish, and that's where the alcohol gets really strong (a tiny medicinal hint also, unfortunately). Black tea bitterness is last, mild, accompanied by some lingering roast.
Round body, chewy, medium carbonation that helps the spicy prickle. Aftertaste malty, a nice tasty sweetness and booze (weirdly, a bit tongue-numbing).
A tasty Belgian beer, but might be the weakest of the Trappist bunch. Quite some off notes, hopefully there wasn't something wrong with my bottle. I'll try more, but i don't really think the review will be different.

Photo of Beric
3.93/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Serving: Bottle into Stift Engelszell teku glass
Served: 3 May 2014

Appearance: Deep, hazy brown with an off-white, tannish two finger head that collapses into a ring of foam around the edges of the glass. Leaves slight lacing. Beer looks beautiful...until the bottom of the glass. This one is bottle fermented, so there is obviously suspended yeast, however, at the bottom of the glass there were these nasty semi-solid yeast clumps to the point where I just couldn't stomach it. It looked gross.

Smell: Sweet, rich caramel, molasses, and toffee notes in the nose.

Taste: If you told me this was a dubbel or a doppelbock I would believe you. Honestly, this tastes like a sweeter version of Korbinian that is a little rougher around the edges. Creamy, gooey caramel and thick molasses are the primary tastes in this one, just like you'd expect from a dubbel or doppelbock. This does NOT taste like Maudite, which is also labeled a "Belgian Strong Dark Ale".

Mouthfeel: Good body and carbonation. Thick on the tongue. Minus points for the awkward yeast clumps.

Overall: This is a great beer with good promise. I think stylistically this is more in-tune with a dubbel or doppelbock rather than how it's currently labeled. Comparing this with Trois Pistoles or Maudite is like comparing two entirely different beers because, well, they are. Elimination of the yeast clumps would make this beer significantly better in appearance and mouthfeel, but the taste is quite good and largely redeems this brew.

Photo of Dreadnaught33
3.74/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This beer is labeled as a Belgian strong dark, but if you blindfolded me I would have gone with good to better than average doppelbock that is sweeter than normal. In many ways the yeast and malt is very much in the German vein, the only difference is the addition of sweetness from the added honey.

The beer pours a dark brown, with a ring of brown fizzy head with very little lacing left on the glass. The smell screams doppelbock with a dark, malty bread backbone with a little bit of a earthy sweeter layer over it with some dark fruit with anise as well that reminds me of optimator. Not the fullest aroma ever, it seems thinner than I would have guessed.

The taste really mirrors the smell with what I would describe as a sweet bread with plenty of thick dark malt, raisins, a slight nuttiness, plums, licorice, and just the doppelbock German yeast that is so pronounced. Honey is implied in my mind but I wouldn't have said it was there if I didn't know, it just seems on the sweeter side. Never would I guess this is a Trappist in the way Belgian Trappists are 'Trappist.' Still pretty tasty. Thinner feel, lower carbonation that how it looks, but it rolls over the tongue nicely and leaves a slight lingering savory aftertaste. Not a ton of alcohol in there, it is hidden well.

Overall I was a little underwhelmed after being excited after seeing this new beer with the patented Trappist stamp on it. Not bad, but also not great. Really tastes like a middle of the road dopplebock to my taste.

Photo of biegaman
3.97/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Gregorius is a mighty sounding name but this beer looks like hoisin sauce: dark, thick, flat. Not terribly intimidating. The bottle had so much sediment that the glass looks half full of liquid, half full of sand. Indeed yeast has a more visible presence than carbonation; there's no head at all.

Speaking of Asian sauces, the way this smells it could double as a sticky balsamic and soy glaze. The malt has a tinge of burnt sugar and ripe purple plum. There's also a substantial amount of anise seed and black pepper; the aroma may be darker than the appearance.

I've never tried knotting a bruised banana peel with my tongue but I imagine this is the taste it might leave in my mouth. This beer combines numerous fruits (banana, date, raisin, fig, apple) and what each flavour has in common is that they taste heavily bruised. The anise, clove, and mace give it a compote-like profile. It is at once spicy, savory, and sweet.

This particular sample is approaching one year in age but shows no signs of slowing down; the yeast is perfumed and effervescent as always. The alcohol enhances that spiciness and, as such, stays relatively disguised (there's enough maltiness to keep it at bay anyhow). The beer ends on a note of black licorice, baking spice, and clover honey.

Gregorius may lack that certain 'je ne sais quoi' of time-honoured Belgian monastic Quads, but Austria's first (and thus far only) Trappist brewery seems to be off to the right start. This is a very serviceable and satiating strong, rich, dark ale. The use of honey is purely incidental amidst such spicy yeast, formidable alcohol, and heavy maltiness, but still this recipe needs no changing.

Photo of gr0g
3.68/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown, not quite black. Good head retention that leaves streaks of tan lace. Aroma has more dark, toasted malt than dark fruit notes, unlike many other BDSAs. A little bit of sweetness on the nose that doesn't smell like Belgian candi sugar. Given that honey is listed among the ingredients, I'll attribute it to that. Faint solvent-like alcohol detracts a bit.

The robust, malty flavor is nonetheless well-balanced. Some sweetness upfront is attenuated by hop bitterness. Toasted malt is prevalent, almost stout/porter-like in that respect. Carbonation is active and abundant but not harsh. There's a slight alcohol note that's OK for a nearly 10% ABV beer.

If I didn't know this was a Trappist brewery out of Austria I'd think it was an American brewery trying their hand at the style, what with the seemingly aggressive hopping to keep things balanced. It's a good beer but not nearly as refined as the established Trappist offerings.

Photo of JayQue
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A good solid Strong Dark Ale. Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into my "Grape and Gourmet" tulip. Nice dark brown color, dense-with no light getting through. The head is medium size, highly carbonated and frothy looking. Head retention is pretty good for a high octane beer. Lacing is mostly a film on the glass, but for a while there were a few small patches of bubbly foam.

Very good aroma. Dark fruit, malt, a little molasses and sugar. Strong presence.

Taste is more of the same. Rich strong flavors of raisins, plums bready malt and some sweets - honey, molasses and sugar.

Mouthfeel is impressive as well. This beer is rich and smooth, with no alcohol bite. I have probably had it over a year, but I would imagine it was fairly refined from the start.

There are some better Strong Dark Ales, but this one is quite enjoyable. A great slow sipper on a cold day.

Photo of cambabeer
4.01/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours thick and frothy with a generous head that stays for a while. Deep brown with some reddishness and easily visible yeast floaters. Very bold aroma, ethyl alcohol after a fruity sweeter beginning and a bready malty ending. Deeper fruit smells like plum and raisin with some burnt fruit sugar.

Very fruity wine like taste while in the mouth, warming alcohol on the way down with the only bitterness to be found at the end and coming much more from the burt malt flavor than any kind of hop bitterness that is masked in the beginning. A little coffee like but that's definitely not what prevails. Definitely a little too sweet (probably from the honey) to be very drinkable.

Heavy body, to be eaten with a spoon, or maybe a fork.
Not too similar to most belgian trappists, much more farmhouse ale type flavors than the rich tripple malt that I was expecting, but nothing wrong with that. This is good, and definitely one to have.

Photo of bmwats
3.42/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 33 cl bottle into a chalice.

A: Dark brown. Pours a half finger, bubbly, brown head. Dissipates quickly. Fair beer ring lacing.

S: Roasted coffee, raisin, plum, dark chocolate, and tea leaf.

T: Sweet raisin, bitter pecan, and pungent tea leaf, accentuate a rye bread malt.

M: Thick and syrupy. Sweet, hot, and boozy feeling.

D: Sip and enjoy.

Atmosphere is pretty good. Slight bubbly head and some fair lacing. Sweet fruity components mostly overshadow the light roasty, chocolate, and earthy flora components. As in the nose, sweet fruity components are the most prominent characteristics, pungency and light bitterness are also present. A little hot and boozy. Overall, this is a pretty good quaff.

Photo of nkwarrior
4.03/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Have tasted from tap and bottle. The tap Gregorius was very flavorful, excellent smell and was smooth on the palate. The appearance was dark brown with no head. All the senses were more intense but not overwhelmed.

The bottled product was also very good. It continues the high expectations and traditions of an excellent Trappists beer.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.33/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip)
brewed on 2012/11
A- This beer pours a lumpy dense walnut brown body with a thick tan creamy head that last a good bit and has some thick lacing after each sip.

S- The soft almost nutty dark malt qualities are blended with hint of dark fruit like cherry pits. As it opens the aroma really develops with some vinous notes and finish of soy sauce and cola hints that are quite pleasant.

T- The soft mellow dark malt flavors have more dark dried fruit and prune layers with old wet barrel qualities and a roasted malt hint in the finish that is complimented by a nice alcohol spice. There is also a red wine tannin that lingers in the mix aswell.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a tight little fizz and a nice alcohol warmth.

O- This beer is a classic in the abbey style. Great subtle depth that grows as the beer opens, making it simple yet elegant. It really helped to take the chill of coming in from the cold.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.77/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

What was once briefly the newest Trappist brewery in the world had yet to cross my path, so I thought it was high time to give it a whirl. These guys are from Austria, the first Trappist brewery from that country (and first outside Belgium or the Netherlands). Since they were officially certified, a new Trappist brewery has been certified in, of all places, the USA. This was a 33cl brown bottle purchased from Oak Barrel in Sydney.

Pours a rather murky and opaque deep amber hue, with an initially over-carbonated and fizzy head of off-brown that turns into a fairly fine ring. Lots of persistent carbonation runs in tight streams up the side of the glass. No lacing. It looks okay. No more than than though.

Nose is oddly spicy: juniper and black pepper come through, with a slight medicinal overtone and aromas of marshmallow and dust. Slight sweetness as it warms gives some cherry aromas as well. It's certainly interesting.

Taste is actually pretty solid. Firm sweetness throughout, tucked in by a slight medicinal astringency that allows those spicy aromatic characters to come through a bit more. Hint of marzipan and acetone on the back linger a little bit longer than necessary, probably aided by a slightly too prominent booze note. That being said, for 9.7%, the booze is pretty well hidden, and the body still stays quite light and fluid, in the best tradition of a big Belgian style ale.

Overall, this is solid stuff, albeit not up with the best examples. It's fairly well constructed, and has some interest and complexity to it. Something I'll certainly revisit at some point.

Photo of Georgiabeer
4.05/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hmm- a Trappist beer from Austria- I must not have been paying attention. Definitely tastes like a quad- vinous and strong with some herbal and stewed fruit notes and the distinctive twang of Belgian yeast. The aroma, particularly, is well done. The taste adds some notes of chocolate and some red fruit in the finish. The abv is well hidden, and the finish is exuberantly fruity- perhaps even a bit sour from the fruit. It lacks the depth of the very best quads, but is still a nice surprise.

Photo of mikeg67
4.18/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

500 ml bottle. Pours hazy brown with long lasting, creamy, tanned head. Aroma is of funky yeast, dark fruit, brown sugar, and hints of chocolate and herbal hops. Body is full and crisp. Taste is of chocolate, dark fruit, brown sugar, herbal hops, toasted malt, and hints of wood and alcohol. Finish is long and dry. Wonderful, delicious brew.

Photo of Auraan
4.31/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured a nice reddish brown with a one finger tan head, leaving little lacing down the glass. Quite nice and true to style, a good appearance. Scents of Belgian yeast, some wild, sour aromas, faint candi sugar, overripe fruit, grape, plum, slight cocoa, dark chocolate and some brown sugar. A very nice, complex aroma, true to form for an Abbey strong dark, very well executed. Taste begins with dark fruit, prune and raisin with some sour funk in the background. White grape appears in the middle, along with spicy yeast and sweet spices. Towards the end of the sip better sweet chocolate and bready malt come forward. A good amount of alcohol is present in the flavor. A sweet brew, with the usual Belgian spiciness. Very well done, quite complex and enjoyable. Mouthfeel is medium-heavy bodied with medium low carbonation and a semi-drying, chalky mouthfeel. Very good, very much a Belgian. Overall this is a good Belgian Strong Dark. All the usual flavors and aromas are on display, the complexity is present and its a very good beer. Its not quite on the level of Rochefort, Chimay or Bernardus, but its very good regardless.

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into chalice, bottled in 1/2013. Pours murky dark reddish brown color with a 1-2 finger dense khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a moderate amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big raisin, plum, prune, fig, pear, apple, caramel, toast, molasses, dark bread, honey, herbal, light clove, light bubblegum, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good complexity and balance of dark malt and fruity yeast ester notes; with good strength. Taste of big raisin, prune, fig, pear, apple, molasses, caramel, toast, toffee, dark bread, honey, herbal, light clove, light bubblegum, and yeast earthiness. Lingering notes of dark/light fruits, molasses, caramel, toast, toffee, dark bread, clove, honey, herbal, light bubblegum and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Big robustness and very nice complexity of dark malt and fruity yeast ester flavors; with a good malt/fruitiness balance and no cloying sweetness after the finish. Medium carbonation and very full bodied; with a very slick, creamy, and lightly syrupy mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small warming present after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Quadrupel style. All around good complexity, balance, and robustness of dark malt and fruity/spicy yeast flavors; and quite smooth to sip on for the ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle picked up at the COOP tonight for about $6... Poured into my HotD goblet and received a short lasting tan head with little to no lacing... the brew is hazy dark walnut... Looked like quite a bit of yeast/sediment got into the glass during the pour before I noticed.

Nose shows earthy dark maltiness with little in the way of traditional esters or phenols.. mainly just dark malt with a subtle kiss of malt sweetness... does not smell "malty" though if that makes sense.

Flavor is dominated by again sorta dry dark malt essence... a bit of sweetness reminds me of a musky mead... dry dusty, sorta nutty dark malt on the finish.

Okay carbonation and body.. but both seem a little muddy.

Better than average certainly, but I guess I was hoping for more.

3.5's across the board.

Photo of ryan1788a5
3.72/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2oz bottle poured into a chalice. Bottling date of 3/2013 printed on the label.

A: Chestnut brown color. Good clarity. Tan head settle into a thin cap. Little to no lacing.

S: Sweet on the nose. Lots of honey. Brown bread, crust, cocoa. A touch leathery. Bread pudding, raisin and craisin. Whiff of solvent alcohol. Tropical esters of pineapple, asian pear, and tangerine. Lightly peppery and phenolic. Yeasty undertones.

T: Sweet and honeyed up front, though it dries. Grape skin. Raisin and craisin. Brown bread, bread pudding. Brown cocoa. Alcohol comes on a bit strong, but checks itself just enough. Pineapple and tangerine ester. A touch of medicinal phenol comes out more as the beer warms. Earthy yeast is a constant in the background. Very dry finish of brown cocoa, brown bread, and alcohol.

M: Thick in body. Silky smooth texture. High attenuation and gentle, scrubbing carbonation provide lift and give it a light feeling on the palate. The mouthfeel goes a long way to enhance drinkablilty.

O: Certainly not as complex as its Trappist brethren. Not bad stuff, but the expectations will be very high. It just feels a little too plain-Jane, especially when compared to a Chimay or a Rochefort, which is exactly what consumers will do.

Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
87 out of 100 based on 450 ratings.