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Gregorius - Stift Engelszell

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132 Reviews
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Reviews: 132
Hads: 479
Avg: 3.81
pDev: 24.15%
Wants: 37
Gots: 75 | FT: 2
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Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.70% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: benfons on 10-24-2012

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Photo of thecheapies
4.08/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Brewed in January of 2013. Poured into a Trappistes Rochefort chalice.

Poured out super dark brown with an antiquated look. The head is sepia and full of both tight creamy foam and coarse popping bubbles that litter the surface of the liquid. Head crested at a little over an inch and has since receded considerably, like a strong ale would. Still looks fantastic in this glass. Medieval looking label doesn't hurt the effort either.

Brown bread, brown sugar, clove, dark honey, raisin, and fig notes in the nose. Quite phenolic, in that it's a little medicinal. Has some smells of elixiry herbs and hospital gauze. Patterned after dark breadiness from dubbels and some quads, this beer has a lot of that malty heft showing. The honey is unmistakably here, also.

Tastes richer. Clove, buckwheat honey, brown sugar, birch, fig, brown bread, raisin, medicinal notes, herbal cough drops, Belgian chocolate, alcohol, and mild hop earthiness. The honey sweetness is still here, as well as the flavor. Didn't 'all-the-way' dry the beer up. Pretty exceptionally complex, yet boisterous. Has a rich intensity that's never too bold. Rather spicy, altogether. Notes of toffee and Toasteds crackers protrude through an already meaty malt backbone. A little peppery, too, but that builds upon mouthfeel. The body still has that near-fullness that you come to expect from a well-executed Belgian Strong Dark Ale; full in that it has good weight, slow sink, and languid wetness. The carbonation contributes that extra spicy kick, when paired with the booze makes for a tantalizing tongue-wrangler. Hop bitterness in the tailend further pushes the cart.

A new Trappist beer that will hopefully be around for centuries. It meets my stamp of approval, no problems here. A wonderfully rich and textured beer with lots to appreciate in flavor and aroma. Great mouthfeel gives it class. Support the monastaries. Enjoy a Gregorius.

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Photo of RCane1
3.43/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

"Product of Austria" gave me pause and "Brewed with Honey", induced a slight frown. Both were justified. This seems like two beers carefully mixed to create the illusion of Belgian Trappist complexity. The first beer is a very strong, dark, slightly bitter ale. The second is a sweet honey ale that counteracts the bitterness of the first. Nevertheless, the effect is a decent and drinkable brew.

Very, very dark head with an acceptable head. Smells malty and sweet. Strong flavor, slightly bitter on the back of the throat, slightly sweet on the tongue. Decent in the mouth.

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Photo of Libationguy
4.38/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Medium brown in color with a deep tan head. Head pours full with a medium+ retention.

Malt up front and on display in the nose. Hazelnuts, molasses, deep roasted malt, rich fruitiness and bread crust.

Rich, round, roasted malt flavor. Brown sugar and molasses notes bring the beer up to the edge of sweet before hop bitterness puts in a check and brings everything back into balance. Just a little touch of alcohol heat, but really nicely balanced for a beer approaching 10%.

Medium+ texture on the mouthfeel. Rich, creamy, dense and lasting.

So much power and it is truly a meal in a glass. Nicely made.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.66/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

My first of the new Trappist ales.

This is definitely a dark ale. Carries robust character. Feel is good. I do have to note that it seems almost Flemish in execution. It has that cherry wood character thing going on. I don't think this would be intentional, but I like it. As a Trappist production, I would expect it not to be.

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Photo of shand
3.99/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gregorius pours a muddy brown with a dense head. The aroma is sweet with dark fruits, and slightly tart. The taste is fruity up front, with a bit of darkness from the malt brewing in the back the whole time. A bit of tartness and Belgian yeast round out the flavor. Overall, Gregorius is a tasty beer, if not jaw-dropping. A solid introduction from the new Trappist brewery.

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Photo of OneDropSoup
3.24/5  rDev -15%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a stemmed tulip: Dark brown body with just some chestnut highlight around the edges under three fingers of light, glistening cappuccino head.

Smells Christmasy. Mostly fig, some prune, plenty of nutmeg & cinnamon-like spice character, a sharply rum-like note (sugary without the booze), banana, slight mustiness.

First sip yields some molasses, a bite like plum skin, some baking spice. There's a dryness in the finish that's kind of husky & meaty, papery, a little boozy. That character grows with each sip & kind of gets unpleasant. I've tasted it in some of my dark homebrews, not sure if it's from the dark malts or a product of the honey or what. It subsides a bit in subsequent sips but never totally goes away. Other pleasant tastes emerge, too, like orange & a little pear, but that rough taste never quite goes away.

Full-bodied, but sort of sticky & astringent, coats the mouth with a little of that husky feel.

I think this would get more of a pass if it weren't a Trappist, but really has some rough spots to work out. I can definitely see potential there, & what's good is really good.

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Photo of boss302
3.84/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A- Brown hazy, big head, looked like a typical Dubbel.

S- sweetish carmelly aroma, a slight candy also, not much else, clean no mustiness.

T- had the flavor of a Dubbel with Carmel malt tones and some sweetness,
but lacked character. This could have been any abbey double and nothing really identified it as unique. It certainly doesn't stand out as a elite 1 of 8 Trappists, but does hold up as a good Dubbel.

M- typical Belgian dark, good malty thickness and head retention.

O- I will try this on draft and see if it is different, but would think twice about spending the large amount of money I spent on this one again. It was priced quite high since it is still somewhat hard to find.

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Photo of Tone
3.54/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours a black color. 1/4 inch head of an off-tan color. Slight retention and slight lacing. Smells of sweet malt, alcohol, slight roasted malt, hint of hops, and a hint of spices. Fits the style of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. Mouth feel is smooth and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of alcohol, sweet malt, hint of roasted malt, caramel malt, hint of pale malt, and a hint of syrup. Overall, the body is not reminiscent of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale, but more closely resembles a Doppelbock in flavor.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Poured from bottle into a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer pours a deep mahogany color with a small cream colored head. The head fades rather fast leaving a decent level of lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell- The aroma is fruity and sweet with a lot of dark fruits of cherry, prune and raisin as well as a good dose of caramel. Along with these is a bit of a caramel smell as well as some lightly sour aromas.

Taste – The taste begins with a rather sweet flavor with lots of cherry and prune mixed with a bit of caramel upfront. There is a bit of yeast and a bready flavors upfront with the sweet which grow stronger as the taste advances. Notes of a little banana and spice come to the tongue as the yeast grows slightly stronger. A small amount of alcohol comes to the tongue more toward the end of the taste mixing with a lighter herbal and some more bready flavors. In the end, with the warming alcohol tastes mixed with the fruit and bready flavors, one is left with a rather warming and sweet taste to be left on the tongue.

Mouthfeel- The body of the beer is on the average side for a beer of its strength with a carbonation level that is on the slightly lower side. Both are good for the more warming characteristics of the brew, but slightly under carbonated for the very fruity flavors of the beer. Overall though it is quite alright.

Overall – A rather decent Belgian Quad that is on the sweeter side but still quite appropriate in taste in terms of its quad classification. Even though it is under most of the other Trappist beers, in my opinion, it is still rather tasty and well worth a try.

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Photo of smcolw
3.66/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3.5

Solid brown color and very cloudy. Strong initial head, but it settles quickly to a single layer of bubbles. Some spotty lace.

Burnt sugar and dark caramel are the first smells I detect. I also sense large pit fruit like plum and apricot.

Semi-sweet--that is to say it is less sweet than the caramel smell. It's also less burnt than the nose. The body is relatively thin. Strong darker (chocolate or dark crystal) malt flavor. Very warming from the bountiful alcohol level. The swallow enhances this and has an essence of cherry brandy. High carbonation level.

Very flavorful, but not really balanced. The mouthfeel is closer to soda than most beers.

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Photo of potownbill
1.91/5  rDev -49.9%
look: 1 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I am not sure what happened to this beer, whether it was the dregs of the batch or not, but the bottle was around 50% sediment. I poured it into a tulip glass, and it clugged like a spoiled bottle of milk. One sip was all I could handle, and the smell was musty. I don't think I am going to try this again, given that it was not cheap, and there are better beers out there.

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Photo of JeffreyJDavis
4.14/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from a 330ml bottle straight from the cellar at 54F into a Westy 12 mini-chalice.

A: Looks great! A rich dark chestnut / mahogany color with more head than I am accustomed to on a quad or BSDA. About 2.5 fingers of caramel head which receded slowly with pretty persistent lacing legs.

N: Not as pungent as would be expected, a pretty mellow nose to me. Vinous aroma with sweetness, dark fruits and nuttiness. Not boozy to me at all. Not a bad nose, just nowhere as big or complex as I expected.

T: A delicious desert sipper. Relatively sweet, but not cloying at all. I wouldn't tag it as honey, more like toffee and molasses. Earthy flavors of figs, raisins and noble rot grapes combined with caramel and mild nuttiness. It's not near as complex as a Westy 12 , Rochefort 10 or Pannepot Reserva, but that's not necessarily bad. Also missing most of the licorice or medicinal herbality which I am not a fan of.

MF: Great , creamy mouthfeel which feels lovely as each sip slides down. Very smooth and velvety. Carbonation is ample which helps the balance of the feel.

O: Overall, this is a very nice beer and worthy of the Trappist Product designation. It's not quite on the same level as best in class quads mentioned above, but it's well worth searching out and trying, especially if you are a Trappist Explorer!!

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Photo of CookstLiquor
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 330ml bottle. Pours a beautiful deep mahogany red. This beer has quite a robust nose that's redolent of red wine, cooked fruits and booze. It smells amazingly rich and fruity. The taste is similar, with a lot of sweet fruit notes, caramel malt notes, plenty of booze and a tart, dry finish. Great post-meal sipper.

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Photo of jdhilt
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a five+ finger light tan head that fades slowly leaving a good lace. Opaque dark brown color. Good carbonation and medium bodied. Dark fruit and honey nose, flavor is more molasses than honey and earthy coffee. Pricey at $6.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Westborough, MA. Brewed Nov 2012.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

As the "little brother" of the Trappist brewing, Stift Engelszell steps into the Strong Dark Ale arena with a bold and majestic ale that carries a regal sense of complexity and with superb drinkability.

Gregorius pours with a deep dark russet brown hue and the expected yeasty rust haze. The beer calmly builds a creamy but short off-white head. Though the beer is restrained with its foamy lacing, it does celebrates brandy-type legging that coats the glass with malt oils with a gentle swirl of the chalice.

Creamy candied aromas and taste begin with an elegant sweetness that's reminescent of grape, hard candy, and powdered sugar. Combined with the robust tastes of grilled dark fruit, blackcurrant, cabernet, mild chocolate, light coffee grind, cola nuts and cashews- the taste is varying but savory and sweet. Added complexities arise with raisin, plumb and prune as the beer warms and the taste buds invite more delicate character. A balance of vinous woods and black pepper balance the sweetness and fruit and close the beer with a dry sweetness that's every bit as wine-like as ale.

Its firm and creamy body is rich, savory and succulent with its initial sip. But finishing warm, its evident that the malts have receded, the bitterness of wood oils rises, and the alcohols pronounce.

And with the same type of satisfaction of Koningshoeven La Trappe Quad, Gregorius has fit the Trappist Strong Dark Ale taste, complexity, and drinakability to a tee.

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Photo of puboflyons
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

From the 11.2 fl. oz. bottle that is stamped "Brewed in Year 2012/11." Sampled on May 20, 2013.

It pours dark brown with a lingering mocha head and a slight cloudy look. Decent lacing.

The honey with which it is brewed does introduce itself in a low profile sort of way after I get over the boozy hump. It evolves into something sweet. Also noted on the nose is coffee and dark fruit like cherry or currant.

The body is pretty bold.

The honey is a little difficult to find in the flavor. Instead my taste buds are teased with dark malts, cherry, licorice, coffee, and a slightly lingering bitterness at the end. There are some characteristics that I like about this one.

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Photo of LiquidCucumber
3.91/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle dated 11/2012

Pours very dark brown/purple with about a half finger of head. The lacing seems to cling fairly well, so I will give them that. The aroma comes off as very earthy almost chocolatey and the typical BSDA fruit flavors are muted. There is definitely a lot of fruit here compared to other beers, but for the style, I don't think I've smelled anything like it. The flavor it a bit more typical, but I think this beer is trying to do its own thing. I've got lots of cherry and bit of fig, but that dark earth also really comes through due to the dryness of this brew. It's quite a bit different than its Trappist brethren, but that is quite alright. It also is a little untamed, as in hot. After the monks perfect their brewing arts in the coming years [I assume they are getting help from the other Trappists], we will have a world-class beer here.

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Photo of Bouleboubier
3.97/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

(found and consumed a bottle at Belmont Station, Portland)

A: dark brown and opaque.... leaves molasses-y legs

S: smells of latrine.... caramel/cream-infused coffee, with the roast sanded off

T: Belgian brown, immediate prejudice... kinda like the lovechild of Gouden Carolus Classic and Orval?... mellow sour/tart tinge, sweet phenols, long toffee finish - sum of the parts balance well in the aftertaste.... later, getting more of bubblegum and grapefruit cushioned by thick, velvet malt

M: smooth-ass, med-full body... not hot

O: not bad at all... a little rough around the edges... all in all, Trappist worthy?

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Photo of Brenden
3.71/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This ale from the world's most recent trappist brewery is a thick medium brown color. It develops a moderately-sized light brown head with equally moderate retention and a pretty good bit of patching on the glass.
This beer has hints of the sweetness I'd expect from the style without going full on with it. It makes for an interesting character, perhaps something a little different in the trappist arena. There is honey used in the brewing process, something that shows in a particular character without the sweetness that's lost in the brewing process. There are, however, notes of toffee and molasses along with the earthiness and bready malts. Just a hint of dark fruits are in there also. There's an earthiness from both yeast and hops that comes out more strongly on the tongue. The note of clove is subtle. While unusual, it does make for a pretty good beer.
This one doesn't have all the big but balanced richness of the greats, but it's certainly not bad. It has enough body, though I might prefer a touch more, and displays a little dryness coming into the finish.

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Photo of bskrtz
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Served cold in glass beer challis.

A) Dense, dark milk chocolate. Suspended fine carbonation with yeasties floating about. Missing the billowy off-white head. Other than that, looks like a classic Belgian Brune

S) Deliciously sweet sour mash. Mild esthers, sour dough, baked apple pie

T) Sweet cooked caramel malts dominate. Stewed dark fruit, figs, raisons. Very complex.

M) Sticky but smooth. This bottle was lacking in carbonation, hence a bit flat. Without proper transport and storage, it may not be the beer. However its a bit flat no matter who's fault

O) A good example of the Trappist Belgian Brune

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Brewed in 2012.

Pours a murky brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of malt, honey, dark fruit, and some earthy hop aromas. Taste is much the same with toasted bread and fruity flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer but it's much more earthy and slightly rough compared to how I thought it would be.

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Photo of impending
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25


33cl into a tulip. Pours a deep copper bronze, minor tan head, minor lacing.

Aroma is of sweet dark fruits, spicy and herbal. At the last moment faint mentholatum comes forth nicely.

Sweet yet dry. A foundation of mild molasses and semi sweet caramel. A nice herbal bitter long evolving aftertaste like roasted tree bark.
delicious, wonderful at room temp
these may be the first Trappists to brew a stout

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Photo of biboergosum
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle. It's not every day that a new Trappist brewery hits the shelves, so a bit of fanfare is in the air, folks.

This beer pours a hazy, dark reddish mahogany hue, with three fingers of tight, densely foamy beige head, which leaves but a few instances of sea spout lace around the glass as it evenly subsides.

It smells of dark, lightly toasted caramel malt, sozzled black fruit - prunes, wild cherries, and raisins - a molasses/treacle sugar-spike, mild clove and black pepper spice, a slight earthy mustiness, and faint warming alcohol. The taste is somewhat tart dark fruitcake, the essence of honey, as in the way of mead, diluted molasses, a hint of crème fraîche, packaged dates, caramel squares, toasted dark bread, subtle clove, and a further weak mustiness, equaled in its understatement by the very wallflowerish booze.

The carbonation is fairly tame, and at the same time kind of frothy, the body a hearty medium weight, and generally quite smooth, even if a pervasive sourness takes its (less than a) pound of flesh. It finishes off-dry, the fruity, malty, and sugary notes all well tempered by their corresponding sour/tart offsets.

An interesting, and tasty enough take on the entrenched Trappist BSDA - the initial delta indicated on the label - the honey - really taking a back seat to the skulking sour fruit character that comes to fill one's perception of this offering. Which I suppose is just fine, as who really wants another Rochefort/Westy/La Trappe clone (as good as those are), when there's new ground to break? Beer-speaking, of course, as the Abbey itself was founded back in 1293.

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Photo of mattsander
3.56/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: Murky brown with chestnut edges, tiny bubbles and a wisp of head.

S: Clovey/peppery/spicy, a bit of sour cherry, sweet dark malt... unique in the trappist dark beers.

T: Very spicy with an interesting malt flavor. The finish is tangy and herbal, its kind of an odd beer.

Has the appearance and body of a great dark trappist beer, but lacks the candy sugar / yeast balance I love in this style.

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Photo of themind
4.02/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Well I didn't know that this brew was a true Trappist bier. That said I feel this bier should be rated MUCH higher. I have had most of the Trappist biers out there and this is comparable. it has a unique aroma, good mouth feel and enjoyable taste. I sense a bit of sourness in this bier which is interesting. Sold in single bottles for about $6.00, I would buy again.

Bottom Line: Like Trappist bier....here you go!

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
86 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.