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Original Flag Porter 1825 - Elgood and Sons Ltd

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Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825

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BA SCORE
86
very good

92 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 92
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 1
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Now brewery by Darwin:
 http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profi ... /935/14563 

(Beer added by: pezoids on 09-30-1998)
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Reviews by granger10:
Photo of granger10
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

This is a beer that I would almost forget I was drinking about while I was drinking it. All in all a fine porter but nothing that really knocks my socks off. The usual coffee and chocolate flavors are apparent but not too strong. A tiny bit of hop bitterness comes through by the finish. Relatively thin in body and taste. However it was easy to drink. I'm probably not going to buy this again because of the high price I paid for it. ($3.19/12 oz)

granger10, Jul 07, 2003
More User Reviews:
Photo of RoyalT
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance – Very dark ruby black with visible carbonation and no head.

Smell – The sherry and roasted malt aroma is offset slightly by a small showing of hops. There’s also a deep, dark sweetness to this one. Ripe apricots, peaches, and plums soaked in molasses come to mind.

Taste – Yes, there’s definitely a hop balance to this one. The sweetness from the nose takes a step back as the roasted malt rules the show.

Mouthfeel – In between medium and full in the body with a somewhat dry, refreshing finish.

Drinkability – Not bad for $1.40 per bottle. This is definitely one I wouldn’t turn away.

RoyalT, Nov 12, 2003
Photo of Todd
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 500ml brown bottle. 19th century motif adorns the label with a gold foil sheaf.

Appearance: Dark mahogany in colour, with a brilliant tan lace of a head which retains its froth.

Smell: Sweet caramel aromas and twang, notes of nuttiness and slight alcohol. Within the dark malts, a faint aroma of smoke can be retrieved.

Taste: The tastes echoes the smell. Rich brown malt flavour (extremely rare today) with an up-front caramel chewiness. Nutty, mild tangy sourness, some spiciness, touch of smoke (from the use of brown malt), an intense toasted and thin roasted flavour. All of these meld with a consistent sweetness. The afters go a bit grainy, bready, more spiciness with a mild hop bitterness to balance the palate.

Notes: This is a Porter, a true Porter. Brewed with yeast salvaged from bottles found in a barge, that sunk in 1825 off the English Channel. Without a doubt, this is the best traditional Porter tasted to date.

Todd, Sep 30, 1998
Photo of Jason
3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Minimal carbonation after a hard pour yields a bubbly tight tan lace, leather brown colour shows only a touch of chill haze.

Dark chocolate with hints of charcoal and malt sweetness as well as a light dark fruitiness.

Slick and creamy mouth feel with a very light carbonation, medium bodied with a malt sweetness that has character. Hints of dark chocolate, burnt grain and mildly soft charcoal. Hops are mild and the malt comes back with a cookie-like character. Finishes semi-dry with a light alcohol in the back.

A bit of a novelty brew, decent but not something I’d have more than a couple of times.

Jason, Nov 12, 2002
Photo of Billolick
3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ouncer, Freshness dating. Poured very dark brown, almost black, tiny bubble white head, leaves nice wispy lacing. Slight nose of coffee beans and burnt malt. Light bodied, nice mellow notes of coffee, chocolate and vanilla. Smooth brit style porter, understated, mellow and tasty. I read some of the other reviews, some folks were dissapointed by this brew. Not me, this was a tasty, nicely crafted Porter.

Billolick, Oct 30, 2004
Photo of ADR
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque brown, tan light transmission at the bottom of the pint glass. A really hard pour produces a 3/4 inch head that settles to a 1/2 inch pile of creamy tan. Thicky dotty laces that drip down. Malty aroma, some chocolate sense with a slight bit of nutiness. Low carbonation and pleasant creamy mouthfeel, flavors ring of carob with a slight honey impression in the swallow and aftertaste. Nothing wrong with this beer, drinkable and entirely pleasant in the Brown Porter style.

Source: Liquid Solutions

ADR, Sep 28, 2003
Photo of WVbeergeek
3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appears a deep nearly opaque brown amber tone with a milky tan head that leaves a miniscule amount of lacing. Aroma has mild chocolate roasts, creamy coffee notes, and some hints of fruit tones hidden somewhere in there. Taste is very good just lighter flavored for me same classic coffe/chocolate notes with the dark roasts sitting on the palate this beer works well together with a balancing light hop bitterness a session beer just a little too pricey. Mouthfeel is creamy textured medium in body classic representation of an English porter just nothing extraordinary going on. Drinkability is a nice session just lacking some flavor to be one of my staples.

WVbeergeek, Jul 08, 2003
Photo of cokes
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark chocolate-orange. Tiny pale khaki head jogs quickly to the sides.
Powdery cocoa nose with traces of liquorice and plums.
A chocolate flavor bursts out initally, receding to a toasted liquorice. Turns a little vinous, with spectors of raisins and prunes. A touch of cola. Sour yeast tones are noted, not too surprised, since the the bottle claims the yeast is almost 180 yrs old. Hmm... Interesting marketing device, though it calls the credibility into question. Some leafy, herbal hops close things down, leaving just a lingering burnt chocolate residue.
It comes across thin and soda-like in the mouth.
Quaffable and decent, but not particularly special.

cokes, Apr 17, 2003
Photo of Sammy
3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serviceable porter. I find it hard to understand why this is listed as retired as its available and their standard porter. Pours a handsome black with lots of white soapy head. Porter coffee aroma. Medium or less mouthfeel,e asy drinkability, with licorice and coffee grounds and nuttiness in there. Significant roast.

Sammy, Apr 29, 2008
Photo of dgallina
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with mahogany tones and minimal head which leaves a thin layer of foam and persistent lacing. Subdued roasted coffee and chocolate malt aroma. Creamy and sweet initially, develops into roasted coffee flavors and finishes with some dry hop bitterness. Predominantly creamy medium body, perhaps on the slightly timid side. Very easy to drink, but not enough flavor to make me want another overall.

dgallina, Oct 31, 2004
Photo of Generik420
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours a deep dark brown with a tan head that falls into minimal lacing. The aroma consists of a light roastiness and a hint of alchohol. Somewhat nutty as well. Taste is very smooth, somewhat roasted, semi-sweet. Medium body and easy drinking. A good beer.

Generik420, Sep 20, 2006
Photo of edchicma
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

An extremely nice brew..dark chocolate appearance with aa rich chocloate smell. Taste is mild, but with a very smooth malty presence that is slightly smoky. Mouthfeel is somewhat light, but carries enough body to be much above average. Extremely easy to drink, with a pleasant, malty aftertaste.

edchicma, Nov 01, 2003
Photo of hotstuff
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This particular Porter poured a small tan head with fine-medium bubbles. The lacing was fair. The body was brown in color. The aroma was that of chocolate and it had a smooth taste and mouthfeel. There was ever so slight of an aftertaste observed. I did not notice much of a coffee flavor with this Porter. This was one heck of a good Porter.

hotstuff, Jun 13, 2003
Photo of CortexBomb
3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Like others I was drawn in by the tale on the bottle, and the possibility to try an authentic old style porter.

Flag poured out standard porter black, but had a very slight head which quickly disspated. The aroma was nice though, very malt oriented with a hint of prunes in the background, quite alluring.

Taste is the nicely sweet which pairs with malts and plenty of grain too. Pretty decent, but nothing overly different from any of the modern porters as far as I could tell.

Mouthfeel was moderately thick, but nothing to write home about, the same story on drinkability.

Decent brew but I was expecting more.

CortexBomb, Mar 03, 2004
Photo of Samp01
3.86/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a dark burnt brown with a small tan head with light lacing. Aroma is of dark roasted caramel malt with some espresso beans. Taste of dark roasted caramel malt lightly burnt espresso and malt give it a mild bitter flavor. Palate is a medium to full body, slightly creamy and smooth texture with mild carbonation. Finishes with a roasted slightly burnt dark caramel malt, some espresso, mild bitterness for balance. Overall a good, flavorful and solid porter

Samp01, Jul 10, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

emerge077, Apr 12, 2014
Photo of Jredner
3.13/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Suprisingly sweet and malty aroma. No roastiness at all in the aroma. Deep brown with reddish tints. Very untraditional, traditional porter. It tastes little like what porters now taste like. Comes across as a malty dark bitter. Molasses and black licorice flavors. Interesting, but I like my new world fake porters better.

Jredner, Jan 24, 2006
Photo of TLove
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(From Notes)

This is among the best (if not the best) porters I've had. The beer is at once soft and supple, but layered. It also changes significantly in taste from fridge temperature to room temperature (unless you live in Canada or Siberia or something).

Thin, jet black body with a bubbly brown head that just melts away leaving a moderate lacing. Smell is of roasted dark chocolate, anise powder, and amaretto. Spot on for the style and not at all overpowering. Chocolate malts are milky and slightly burnt in the mouth, where the hop structure begins to come out.

Very English. Great finish, with a touch of light carbonation and crispness that carry the flavours (must go with the English spelling on this one) through to the end.

TLove, Sep 28, 2009
Photo of AaronRed
3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very nice beer indeed. It has that dark brown almost black appearance with a tan creamy head. Not much in the way of smell, but I don't think porters are built for smell anyway- maybe if they warm up a bit. As for taste, a nice burnt carmel and roasted malty flavor upfornt, with some hop bitterness toward the end. Extremely smooth, leaving a nice texture in your mouth. A solid beer for the cold weather.

AaronRed, Dec 05, 2002
Photo of theghost3
4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a translucent mahogany with some ruby highlights. 1-finger light beige head; moderate, layered lacing.

The smell is some sour yeast, chocolate, and slight charcoal. The taste is charred malts, sour yeast, and a little coffee. Mouthfeel is crisp, carbonated, but not too acidic.

This is a drinkable beer. I could easily have a session with this, but I don't know how easy it is to find now.

theghost3, Mar 19, 2010
Photo of BeerSox
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into nonic.

Very dark brown, almost black, with some ruby highlights at the bottom of the glass. A one finger light tan head slowly settles to a thick cap, with spotty lacing along the glass.

Smooth, roasty malts with a little bit of molasses. The hop aromas are lower, which goes along with the English style.

Roasty malts that aren't bitter with a slight creaminess. A little bit of coffee flavor is in there too. Medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation. The dark grains linger for a while.

This is a great porter, and a good example of the English style. There aren't too many of these to be found in the U.S., and ultra fresh ones are even rarer. I would love to try this one in a pub. Recommended.

BeerSox, Jun 28, 2008
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3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a dark garnet with leathery brown highlights. It has a touch of cloudiness from the yeast sediment. The short-lived head survives only as a small ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.

Smell: The aroma is very 'soft' with a fair dose of smooth, roasted day-old coffee. There's also a touch of chocolate and a faint yeasty character.

Flavor: Malty with a slighty acidic undertone. The roasted coffee flavor is smooth and restrained, with a mellow bitterness. I pick up on chocolate and mollasses, but they're both way in the background. A bit of toffee, as well as a yeastiness show up late. Alcohol taste on the tail end. A bit weak, but still not bad...

Mouthfeel: Slighty acidic and sharp, with a fairly thin body.

Drinkability: As far as 'old-fashioned' porters go, this one is o.k. It's quite mild in both flavor and body. I could drink this again, but would like to try it from a handpump to help with the mouthfeel.

MJR, May 05, 2003
Photo of Px2GrafX
4.08/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

presentation: 11.2oz. bottle with a black, gold and white label. an old sailing ship is at sea on the label and in big type is "original flag porter". "gold medal 94 points" at the world beer championships."brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the english channel using an original 19th century recipe". abv is displayed at 5%. no freshness date. "brewed without artificial additives".

appearance: pours a dark brown but not nearly as opaque as other porters. red brown highlights and clear. head is surprisingly light off-white. about a half an inch and eventually drops to a patchy ring. lacing is decent.

smell: mild malt aromas that are lightly sweet with a hint of oatmeal. caramelly with a faint aroma of coffee. wow, a nice cherry aroma sparkles as this brew warms. i get it every time i take in a whiff while sniffing. nice!

taste: malty sweet caramelly biscuits. light bitterness to compliment. a roasted smokiness can be detected along with a roasted peanutty flavor over coffee. aftertaste is sweet and lightly astringent. chocolate flavors become more apparent as the brew warms.

mouthfeel: very light for a porter, however, crisp, clean and smooth. carbonation is light to moderate, and the swallow is silk.

drinkability: very drinkable porter. mouthfeel, aroma and flavors attest to this. alcohol is non-existent. i could definitely make a session out of this.

overall: very nice english porter. definitely has it's place. i prefer a few different things, and probably prefer the american style more, but this is definitely a tasty, easy to drink, and accurate portrayal.

Px2GrafX, Sep 28, 2005
Photo of Brent
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Advertised as brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the English Channel, and using a brewing recipe from that period, so I was curious to see how our American interpretation had evolved the style. Mouthfeel was somewhat thin, and caramel/toffee malts dominated. Hops were quite reserved, and the overall character of this porter was very mild, almost bordering on a brown ale. Quite pleasant, but nothing here that is particularly noteworthy. Worth a try as a curiosity, if nothing else (which may be what the brewers had in mind, anyway).

Brent, Apr 10, 2002
Photo of StevieW
3.78/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Deep black body with a creamy, full, fluffy tan head.Traces of shiny black and ruby color along the edges. Ample bubbles bust through, releasing a deep earthy, oak smell. Head settled to a light covering, like a dusting of snow to the bottom of the glass. Laced nicely. Taste was an interesting, complex, mix. Initial bitter, roasted shot. Then a port wine like, belgian tripel, roasted fruit middle. There is a definite sourness to the finish. A resin like, burnt, definitly burnt, coating stays on the tongue. I could having this every once in a while, maybe a snowed in night, and no need to reach for anything else. Interesting beer with the unique, tag of using a yeast salvaged from an 1825 sunken vessel. Does this mean it tastes like 19th Century beer ? I don't know, but it's worth trying once.

StevieW, Aug 22, 2002
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Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
86 out of 100 based on 92 ratings.