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Original Flag Porter 1825 - Elgood and Sons Ltd

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Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825

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very good

91 Ratings

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Ratings: 91
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 0
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Now brewery by Darwin:
 http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profi ... /935/14563 

(Beer added by: pezoids on 09-30-1998)
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Reviews by masterbruewer:
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3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Typical porter appearance. Dark, dark brown with tan head. Light to moderate carbonation.

The smell was sweet with chocolate/coffee and fruit flavors and a bit of a harsh alcohol scent.

The flavor was classic porter, strong dark flavors of coffee and chocolate with some fruitiness. A little bit of harsh alcohol taste takes away from the flavor a little.

Mouthfeel was smooth and creamy.

Drinkability wasn't bad but takes a hit from the harshness.

Serving type: bottle

12-20-2004 03:11:25 | More by masterbruewer
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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

04-12-2014 04:26:18 | More by emerge077
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4.25/5  rDev +11%

11-10-2013 15:01:01 | More by TeachChefs
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New Jersey

3.86/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a dark burnt brown with a small tan head with light lacing. Aroma is of dark roasted caramel malt with some espresso beans. Taste of dark roasted caramel malt lightly burnt espresso and malt give it a mild bitter flavor. Palate is a medium to full body, slightly creamy and smooth texture with mild carbonation. Finishes with a roasted slightly burnt dark caramel malt, some espresso, mild bitterness for balance. Overall a good, flavorful and solid porter

Serving type: bottle

07-10-2013 02:23:21 | More by Samp01
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4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

What a cool story to go with this brew. I'm not really sure if it's just marketing, but regardless, this is a great one. Sour, roasted aroma - off-putting some, very inviting to me. I was really impressed with the sour yeasty taste, and this characteristic is what really made me love this beer. I had this brew prior to finding my real love - the sour ale, and this was a good indicator of where I was headed. Grab it if you can find it.

Serving type: bottle

01-12-2012 11:06:57 | More by stealth
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3/5  rDev -21.7%

11-18-2011 03:36:39 | More by aanth
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2.78/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance - Pretty much completely black with almost no head that faded quickly.

Smell - A toffee-like, caramel smell.

Taste - Malty, lightly bitter, with a coffee-like finish.

Mouthfeel - Kinda thick with light carbonation.

Overall - Not the greatest in my opinion.. but I think porters just aren't my thing.

Serving type: bottle

10-15-2011 03:39:02 | More by jsisko01
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New York

4.88/5  rDev +27.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

I recieved this in my monthly club selections from Half Time distributing, so I'm surprised to see it listed as retired!

This beer has made a Porter fan out of me! It's an amazing story of culturing yeast from sunken 19th.Century beer and recreating it!

This has a full long lasting head, dark brown color, well carbonated and just the right malt taste. Considering the yeast it should have tasted like old boots !
(Which does happen, I know, I once homebrewed a batch that was booty!)
Hopefully, you can get your hands on some of this realy superb brew!

Serving type: bottle

08-20-2011 23:51:02 | More by CaptJackHarkness
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3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a semi thick looking black tar liquid. The head came and went pretty quickly. The smell was heavily roasted and burnt smelling with some bitterness on the nose. The taste was kind of charred in my opinion, it was very burnt tasting. There wasn't too much else happening in the taste, I was able to get much of a hop flavor or some kind of dark fruits. The mouthfeel was decent had a dry feel to it. Overall I don't think I'll be missing this beer since it's been retired.

Serving type: bottle

06-01-2011 16:53:16 | More by Knapp85
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4.18/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Poured very dark brown into a tulip with a thin film of tan head. Powerful aroma of molasses, nutty caramel, and hints of fig and vanilla.

Low carbonation and a light mouthfeel that seems to alternate between thin and creamy. Some nutty malt sweetness up front followed by a slightly bitter finish with hints of dark chocolate and bit of coffee. Easy drinking and quite complex, although the flavors didn't quite stack up to the aroma's promise.

Serving type: bottle

10-07-2010 05:23:02 | More by grittybrews
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4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I decided to review this one because it is pretty much the beer that got me in to craft brewing. Besides that, the story of the sunken ship is actually pretty cool. The color is very dark brown, and comes with a small amount of white heading. The smell is of light cocoa, molasses and ink. The taste is very similar to the smell, with an almost milky quality that compliments the chocolate characters. The moithfeel is light, and easy on the palate, with just a small amount of carbonation. For me, this is what an English style Porter is. It may not be as impressive as it was when I first tried it, but it is still a damn tasty beer that I am glad I revisited.

Serving type: bottle

05-12-2010 02:11:49 | More by jamie2dope
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4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a translucent mahogany with some ruby highlights. 1-finger light beige head; moderate, layered lacing.

The smell is some sour yeast, chocolate, and slight charcoal. The taste is charred malts, sour yeast, and a little coffee. Mouthfeel is crisp, carbonated, but not too acidic.

This is a drinkable beer. I could easily have a session with this, but I don't know how easy it is to find now.

Serving type: bottle

03-19-2010 02:48:17 | More by theghost3
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District of Columbia

4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(From Notes)

This is among the best (if not the best) porters I've had. The beer is at once soft and supple, but layered. It also changes significantly in taste from fridge temperature to room temperature (unless you live in Canada or Siberia or something).

Thin, jet black body with a bubbly brown head that just melts away leaving a moderate lacing. Smell is of roasted dark chocolate, anise powder, and amaretto. Spot on for the style and not at all overpowering. Chocolate malts are milky and slightly burnt in the mouth, where the hop structure begins to come out.

Very English. Great finish, with a touch of light carbonation and crispness that carry the flavours (must go with the English spelling on this one) through to the end.

Serving type: bottle

09-28-2009 16:27:12 | More by TLove
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4.38/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A: Pours a dark ruby brown color. A very light tan head forms with pour retention. A light film of lace.
S: Roasted malt with caramel, chocolate, and light coffee. A sour, almost tannin like fruitiness.
T: Not very complex, but a perfect blend of roasted malt, chocolate, caramel, and coffee. I light sourness that follows the nose.
M/D: A medium body that is creamy and smooth. Exceptionally easy to drink. Something I could session all day.

This is a really good English Porter. It has pretty much everything I look for in the style. Highly recommended for people like me that love the style.

Serving type: bottle

12-28-2008 03:24:35 | More by champ103
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3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured from an 11.2oz bottle into a pint glass
A - Dark mahogany, nearly black with thin head
S - Aroma of milk chocolate and milk with a bit of coffee
T - Tastes of chocolate and milk with some notes of coffee. A bit light on the malt for a porter
M - Thin mouthfeel with near zero carbonation. Finishes very quickly.
D - While it is tasty, there are better porters out there for the money. Worth a try though.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2008 21:28:06 | More by mcsquint
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3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Not much head on this one. Just a soapy cap. Some decent lacing is present though. The body is brown with some nice chunky sediment.

S- Some nice deep chocolate, vanilla and cream notes with a touch of coffee, and some nice sweet breads and dark fruits.

T- Starts creamy with notes of oak, chocolate, cream, and slight coffee. Finishes dry with residual oakiness.

M- Nice low carbonation and dry finish.

D- @5% this is a nice porter, but there are others out there that are better and a fraction of this price. I paid $3.99 for my single, so that gives you a scope of cheaper options out there.

Serving type: bottle

09-24-2008 23:17:33 | More by Greggy
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3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Well, I had to buy this beer when the owner of the bar told me the story. Anyway, it pours a deep mahogany brown with a thin off-white head that dissipates quickly leaving no lacing. There wasn't a lot to the smell honestly. I got some faint coffee aromas and some sweet malts with some nutty aromas as well. The taste was better, with a well defined roasted character. Chocolate malts and coffee were also present long with a bit of nuts and dark fruit as well. The mouthfeel was a tad thin, but had good carbonation. I enjoyed this porter and it was very drinkable despite not being the most complex porter out there.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2008 01:58:18 | More by gford217
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4.38/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle poured into my Hommel snifter, Flag Porter is a dark garnet black with only a wisp of a collar, a few large bubbles.

Smell is a bit of sweet caramel malt, chocolate malt balls, slightly charred and a touch sour, but in good ways that are most appropriate to the style.

Taste is nice chocolate malt, neither sweet or bitter but very smooth, a slight lactose character. Again, just a slight amount of char and lactose on the slightly bitter finish, a very nice English porter.

Mouthfeel is lighter, with just a bit of crisp, tight carbonation.

Drinkability is very good, a light and tasty porter for sure. I heard this beer is no longer made, which would be a real shame both as a good beer and for it's historical significance. However, it's still readily available in my area, so hopefully that's not the case!

Serving type: bottle

08-24-2008 08:51:41 | More by ccrida
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4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

I think I bought this bottle about 6 months ago and just found it.
The verdict?
Delicious. Rich, unsweetened (but not bitter) chocolatey goodness. One of the nicest porters I've tried. It's a bit different, maybe less of the sour hint at the finish that some porters have.
I hope it's not retired: I want to get some more of this. Well done, Elgood & Sons.

Serving type: bottle

08-12-2008 03:30:39 | More by coati858
Photo of dsa7783

New Jersey

3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Single bottle purchased from Gary's in Madison...
Pours a dark, ebony hue with a minimal tan, reddish head...
Sweet, malt-dominated aroma with hints of dark sugars, figs, and dates...
Taste, likewise, had an obviously strong malt-backbone along with nuances of roasted malts, dehydrated fruits, including, but not limited to, dates, figs, prunes, caramelized sugars, and sweet honey...
good mouthfeel along with a pretty good level of drinkability to match...
Worth a try...

Serving type: bottle

08-10-2008 14:41:39 | More by dsa7783
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4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into nonic.

Very dark brown, almost black, with some ruby highlights at the bottom of the glass. A one finger light tan head slowly settles to a thick cap, with spotty lacing along the glass.

Smooth, roasty malts with a little bit of molasses. The hop aromas are lower, which goes along with the English style.

Roasty malts that aren't bitter with a slight creaminess. A little bit of coffee flavor is in there too. Medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation. The dark grains linger for a while.

This is a great porter, and a good example of the English style. There aren't too many of these to be found in the U.S., and ultra fresh ones are even rarer. I would love to try this one in a pub. Recommended.

Serving type: bottle

06-28-2008 01:48:06 | More by BeerSox
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North Carolina

4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2-ounce bottle poured into a pint glass yields a deep, clear ebony body with chestnut highlights capped briefly by a finger of pale beige head with big soapy bubbles on top. It shrinks quickly to a crescent moon-shape that retains throughout the drink, but leaves very little lacing.

Smell is malty with a pungent note of molasses and savory brown bread. A touch of coffee tickles the nose, as does aromatic pekoe tea.

A rich, full body fills the mouth and is cut very nicely by good carbonation, revealing a light juicy fruitiness, balanced with dry, biscuity malt. A sweet woody note and the roasty essence of bitter coffee emerge, politely taking command of the finish as the drink warms.

Flag Porter is surprisingly refreshing, nicely balanced, smooth, dark and juicy with excellent drinkability and balance.

Serving type: bottle

06-10-2008 22:23:47 | More by cvstrickland
Photo of tpd975


3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one says it's retired but it's not. My beer guy just got a nice fresh shipment in.

A: Nice chestnut brown hue with a rather average sized off white head. The retention is low and lace is spotty.

S: Aromas of nice roasted malts with hints of chocolate and brown sugar. A touch of milk can be noted, not real sweetness or hops though.

T: Taste is much better than aroma. Nice hints of chocolate and coffee. Touches of nuts as well. Has a slight lactic quality to it. Nice tasting porter.

M: Medium in body rather smooth and creamy.

D: Nice, I enjoyed it. I will buy more if avaliable.

Overall: A rather drinkable porter with a nice taste. It is clean smooth and refreshing. A nice treat.

Serving type: bottle

05-28-2008 20:32:01 | More by tpd975
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4.35/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from the 11.2oz bottle into a Belgian wine glass. As everyone else, I also question the retirement of this beer as it is the only one from the brewery that I can find.

Appearance- Beer pours a dark brown red black with a rich lustrous finger of tan Bailey's Irish cream coloured head. Lacing is glued to the sides for the duration of the beverage's enjoyment.

Smell- Rich roasty malts with a hint of sour that for some reason doesn't seem out of place. A dusty graininess also lingers and seems to be in the right place as well. I can only assume this is the yeast and I would love to get my hands on some old 1825 yeast for my porters as well. Hops are noble and subdued.

Taste- This is clearly a special porter, a creamy rich texture that comes of super smooth with a chocolatey taste on the back of the tongue. A near toffee sweetness and caramel hints linger with a mild grainy texture. Hop bitterness is amazingly balanced. Very drying with the chocolate sweetness on the finish, almost like eating baker's chocolate except good tasting.

Mouthfeel- Creamy, smooth, grainy, medium-full bodied, fairly highly carbonated, and decadant.

Drinkability- This is one of the finest porters I have ever had and I would have no qualms against finishing off the entire four pack, unfortunately I'll have to beat my girlfriend at cards a lot more to get the rest of them (and she already got one of my Founders Breakfast Stouts out of this game).

Serving type: bottle

05-11-2008 03:21:45 | More by blakesell
Photo of Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serviceable porter. I find it hard to understand why this is listed as retired as its available and their standard porter. Pours a handsome black with lots of white soapy head. Porter coffee aroma. Medium or less mouthfeel,e asy drinkability, with licorice and coffee grounds and nuttiness in there. Significant roast.

Serving type: bottle

04-29-2008 19:25:54 | More by Sammy
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Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
86 out of 100 based on 91 ratings.