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Original Flag Porter 1825 - Elgood and Sons Ltd

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Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825

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BA SCORE
86
very good

95 Ratings
THE BROS
91
outstanding

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Ratings: 95
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 10.7%
Wants: 2
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Now brewery by Darwin:
 http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profi ... /935/14563 

(Beer added by: pezoids on 09-30-1998)
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Photo of cerevisiaephilus
2.68/5  rDev -30%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

This is a werid smelling and tasting beer. I'm getting some strange off scents and flavors, but I'm not sure what they are, almost winey. I don't think the beer is contaminated, but it tastes odd. There is definately some decent dark malt notes, but other than that, pretty lackluster.

I'd like to blame it on the yeast from 1825, but I read that nowadays, its only used for the bottle conditioning and a modern strain is used for the fermentation.

Photo of clvand0
2.78/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

This beer pours a dark color with ruby hints around the edges. I has a small head and a little bit of lacing on the glass. The aroma is of burned malts and chocolate - very pleasant. The flavor is very full bodied. The flavor is very strongly filled with the taste of coffee mixed with licorice. Personally I'm not a big fan of porters nor coffee, but I must admit that this was a well made and very good porter. Great representation.

Photo of jsisko01
2.78/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance - Pretty much completely black with almost no head that faded quickly.

Smell - A toffee-like, caramel smell.

Taste - Malty, lightly bitter, with a coffee-like finish.

Mouthfeel - Kinda thick with light carbonation.

Overall - Not the greatest in my opinion.. but I think porters just aren't my thing.

Photo of aanth
3/5  rDev -21.7%

Photo of walleye
3/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

poured a deep mahagany with a very small tan head that didn’t last. aromaplums, honey, molasses, brown sugar, dark chocolate, with hints of licorice. flavor, weak, watery, bitter chocolate, molasses, dryness, a little diappointed with the flavor I was hopping for more robust flavors.

Photo of sevineyes
3.03/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a brown bottle with a sihlouette of a ship against a full moon on the label.

A: Seems to be a bit light for a porter. Definite ruby hints, but I can see the whole bottom of my glass. Poured with a dense head, but not very thick and only slighty off-white.

S: Weak smell. Bananna. Sour cherries, sugared fruit skins. Really pleasing sourness coming through. Pick up some coconut. Has almost a medicinal sanitary aspect in the final portions of the smell. A roastiness comes through.

T: Smells much stronger. Watered down whiskey. Some pepper. Overall the main thing is a sweetness that's very natural and fruit-like.

M: Extremely watery, but leaving with an evaporative quality similar to sweating on a hot summer day.

Overall: Supremely drinkable for a porter. Unfortunatley the smell is weak and the mouthfeel is weaker. Although the smell is very complex I just wish it had a bit more chutzpah.

Photo of Jredner
3.13/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Suprisingly sweet and malty aroma. No roastiness at all in the aroma. Deep brown with reddish tints. Very untraditional, traditional porter. It tastes little like what porters now taste like. Comes across as a malty dark bitter. Molasses and black licorice flavors. Interesting, but I like my new world fake porters better.

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appears a deep nearly opaque brown amber tone with a milky tan head that leaves a miniscule amount of lacing. Aroma has mild chocolate roasts, creamy coffee notes, and some hints of fruit tones hidden somewhere in there. Taste is very good just lighter flavored for me same classic coffe/chocolate notes with the dark roasts sitting on the palate this beer works well together with a balancing light hop bitterness a session beer just a little too pricey. Mouthfeel is creamy textured medium in body classic representation of an English porter just nothing extraordinary going on. Drinkability is a nice session just lacking some flavor to be one of my staples.

Photo of Knapp85
3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a semi thick looking black tar liquid. The head came and went pretty quickly. The smell was heavily roasted and burnt smelling with some bitterness on the nose. The taste was kind of charred in my opinion, it was very burnt tasting. There wasn't too much else happening in the taste, I was able to get much of a hop flavor or some kind of dark fruits. The mouthfeel was decent had a dry feel to it. Overall I don't think I'll be missing this beer since it's been retired.

Photo of jdhilt
3.33/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Very dark, heavy beer. Long lasting thick brown carbonation. Somewhat hoppy at the finish. Brewer is using the same recipe they used in 1825. Overall a good porter.

Photo of dreadnatty08
3.4/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown color with ruby highlights on the edges, not quite opaque. Not much of a head is produced, just a tracing of off white bubbles. Aromas of rich, dark chocolate taffy, given the fruitiness of English ale yeast; a bit of sourness too. Not as robust as American porters, but I imagine no roasted malt has been used, just higher kilned crystal. On the palate, a lowly carbonated brew hits quite slickly delivering a lot more chocolaty flavors. I even get a hint of a nutty aged parmesan. It is certainly very malt forward with no wink of hops evident. Overall, a historically enjoyable beer, but not one which I would seek out in the future.

Photo of Mitchster
3.4/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This clear, dark mahogany (not black) brew required a vigorous pour, and formed a decent tan head with a pancake consistency, but quickly thinned, leaving some decent lacing. Mild carbonation, with small bubbles. Aroma is a bugger to figure out...Definite sweet chocolate is in there with potent walnut notes and scorched caramel, but of interest is a subtle (not smoky) grilled steak odor. Mouthfeel is slick with a medium-light body. Taste starts out with round English hops, some roasted grainy notes, fading into a slick, quickly disappearing somewhat watery, malty background, followed by caramel and ashen charcoal and ending in a very soft grainy, walnut finish. The overwhelming caramel and walnut makes me feel a little sick to my stomach. A decent English-style mild porter, but rather lifeless on it's own.

Photo of pio
3.43/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

i was very glad to find this beer again.
dark ruby brown liquid. not a huge amount of head what is there is cream/tan colored and reduces to al halo with big and little bubbles. spotty lace noted.
caramel, molasses dark bread crusts and scorched sugar is in it's scent.
flavor is straight ahead and rather one dimentional. coffee maltiness and a yeasty hint of port beginning the finish. it dries and bitters upon it's finish but just enough and no more.
the mouthfeel is slightly active with a big bubbly feel but i'd say a tad watery.
very sessionable but only if you can afford it, no points off for the expensive nature of this purchase. remember it's only a purchase while you have it in the store, after that it's beer.
cheers!

Photo of John
3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown with ruby reddish hues from ambient light penetration. Minimal head. Hints of chocolate in the aroma. Chocolate malt and slight coffee bitterness flavor. Light-medium body. Pretty good, but probably not worth seeking out or the extra expense of an import. Presentation: 12oz. bottle.

Photo of masterbruewer
3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Typical porter appearance. Dark, dark brown with tan head. Light to moderate carbonation.

The smell was sweet with chocolate/coffee and fruit flavors and a bit of a harsh alcohol scent.

The flavor was classic porter, strong dark flavors of coffee and chocolate with some fruitiness. A little bit of harsh alcohol taste takes away from the flavor a little.

Mouthfeel was smooth and creamy.

Drinkability wasn't bad but takes a hit from the harshness.

Photo of ChrisBowers
3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I was sorta disappointed in this beer. The thought of tasting something made from a yeast strain cultured from a bottle on the english channel intrigued me. Poured out of the bottle a dark brown/black with a light head that disappeared quickly. Nose was of chocolate, prunes and coffee. What really disappointed me about this beer was the mouthfeel. It was thin and watery, not rich like I expected it to be. Taste was ok, but the flavors were all muted. Maybe I got a bad bottle, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.

Photo of Jarod
3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

States on the side of the bottle/label that it uses 1825 yeast that was salvaged and uses a 19th century recipe. We will see if it holds up to its history.
This beer poured into the glass a mahogany color that was clear. When first poured it created a giant thick rich foamy head that was medium brown/cream in color. The foam lasted for some time then all of a sudden disappeared into a small rim around the glass. The second pour did not create the same result; it actually did not create a head at all. The aromas that came from the glass were of dark chocolate, burnt coffee, caramel, malt - which helped make the aroma somewhat sweet in nature. The tastes were of black coffee, burnt bitter chocolate, dark sweet malt, light hops, and faint fruit all through out, but ended with a coffee taste on the tongue. The body was light to medium and somewhat dry at the finish. All and all not that great of a beer, ok for it’s style, but not the best representative. I am glad that I got to try it, but probably wouldn’t order again unless the menu was scant. As far as them using a old recipe, good concept, but it needs some tweaking to fit with todays master brews. IMO

Photo of granger10
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

This is a beer that I would almost forget I was drinking about while I was drinking it. All in all a fine porter but nothing that really knocks my socks off. The usual coffee and chocolate flavors are apparent but not too strong. A tiny bit of hop bitterness comes through by the finish. Relatively thin in body and taste. However it was easy to drink. I'm probably not going to buy this again because of the high price I paid for it. ($3.19/12 oz)

Photo of Dontelle392
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

Photo of EPseja
3.53/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Split a room-temperature 12oz. bottle of this before sushi lunch with Ego (another BA poster). The yeast used in the creation of this beer was salvaged from bottles found in an English shipwreck, and applied to a 19th century recipe. Bonus points for intrigue.

Appearance: Pours the color of Coca-Cola with a head to match. Much less thick than I initially thought it would be. The beige head gave out quickly, hanging on to the edges of the glass and leaving the center bare.

Smell: Big hybrid of chocolate mocha right off the bat. Burnt caramel, charred marshmallows. Very enticing.

Taste: Striking hit of smokey peat up front. Surprisingly clean and not very sweet, especially with such noticeable caramel in the nose. Aftertaste reveals bittersweet baking chocolate. Not sure where the coffee scent from the nose disappeared to!

Mouthfeel: More carbonated than I thought it would be. Less body than I originally expected. Slightly uncharacteristic compared to similar Porters I've had.

Drinkability: A bit too carbonated for my tastes. Lack of sweetness and thickness makes it physically easier to drink (less filling) although the almost too-clean taste isn't a plus for a Porter.

In conclusion, this is a decent but not exceptional Porter except for the history behind it's creation. This beer must be drank at room temperature to fully enjoy it's character! This beer would suffer greatly if served cold.

Photo of Brian700
3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I remember trying one of these when I was first getting into good beers and I though it was awesome. Now, not so much.

This beer pours a dark garnet/deep brown color with a tan head that didn't really stick around very long.

The aroma was pretty lacking. I smell some light roastiness but not much more.

The flavor (right after the pour--somewhat cold) is somewhat roasty with mild chocolate flavor. Not very complex. It seems to be lacking something.
The flavor (after warming up a bit) is much better. There are a lot more chocolate notes coming through and the flavor seems to be enhanced by a great deal. Still a little bit lacking though.

The mouthfeel is good. Medium body and medium carbonation.
I'd say it's a decently drinkable beer. This beer reputation in my area seems to be to much for this beer to live up to. Not a bad beer though.

Photo of feloniousmonk
3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Drinking from a nice, warmed-up bottle...
Color is deep, dark brown, showing some reddish transparency around the sides and bottom, with a short, off-white head.
Aroma: delirious perfection! Rich, roasted coffee at first, then anise, big-time, spice, molasses, dark rum, more, ...I drank it in the nose long and deep, savoring every sniff!
Flavor from nose continue in the taste, but one thing really sticks out significantly: a lack of depth and a shallow mouthfeel. Barely pierces the palate, this one, and the finish is far too short and forgettable. I want a good porter to wrestle a little with my tongue, and more importantly, to really get comfortable and rest happily on the palate, spreading flavor all around the mouth, creating an overwhelmingly unctuous experience. Does. Not. Happen.
This enjoyably dark, twisted melange of flavor exists for a moment, then is gone long before you'd like it to.
Drinkability? Boy, you can toss them back, but the experience is too disappointing to want to revisit. Alas.
(Thanks to JohnnyDuvel for the sample!)

Photo of Sammy
3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serviceable porter. I find it hard to understand why this is listed as retired as its available and their standard porter. Pours a handsome black with lots of white soapy head. Porter coffee aroma. Medium or less mouthfeel,e asy drinkability, with licorice and coffee grounds and nuttiness in there. Significant roast.

Photo of HochFliegen
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark brown with ruby red tones in the light. Very little head to speak of. What was there was a tan color.
Smell was quite malty & nutty. Hints of chocolate linger as well along with a spalsh of some fruit. Couldnt detect the fruit odor all the time but in the end of the whif I could.
Taste was fruity tart and malty at first. Followed by a roasted malt/burnt coffee flavor that lingered along with a bite of bitter.

Photo of dgallina
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with mahogany tones and minimal head which leaves a thin layer of foam and persistent lacing. Subdued roasted coffee and chocolate malt aroma. Creamy and sweet initially, develops into roasted coffee flavors and finishes with some dry hop bitterness. Predominantly creamy medium body, perhaps on the slightly timid side. Very easy to drink, but not enough flavor to make me want another overall.

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Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
86 out of 100 based on 95 ratings.