Original Flag Porter 1825 - Elgood and Sons Ltd

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Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825

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BA SCORE
86
very good

88 Reviews
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Reviews: 88
Hads: 96
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 10.18%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: pezoids on 09-30-1998

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Now brewery by Darwin:
 http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profi ... /935/14563 
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Reviews: 88 | Hads: 96
Photo of JWFokker
3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark brown with a thin tan head. The nose consisted primarily of roasted malt, maybe a hint of chocolate. The flavor was dominated by the roasted malt, with chocolate and a bit of nutty flavor also. Bread in the aftertaste. Mouthfeel was thinner than I expected, but it's a porter, not a stout and is actually in line with the style. It's a fairly solid if somewhat unremarkable beer. It's got no inherrent flaws other than not being particularly distinctive. (472 characters)

Photo of Generik420
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours a deep dark brown with a tan head that falls into minimal lacing. The aroma consists of a light roastiness and a hint of alchohol. Somewhat nutty as well. Taste is very smooth, somewhat roasted, semi-sweet. Medium body and easy drinking. A good beer. (266 characters)

Photo of Chsyhkr
4.5/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A wonderful robust porter enjoyed with Ginger and Squash Bisque at a local restaurant.

Full bodied, great aroma of dark breads and chocolate.

Nice full head with good carbonation.

Wonderful bittersweet chocolates with sweet breads flavor stands on its own.

A great example, never mind the nonsense about the 1825 yeast! (331 characters)

Photo of wl0307
3.72/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This beer is NOT retired. Purchased at the UTOBEER stall in the Borough Market, S. London. BB 06/06, served cool in a 500ml jug.

A: deep mahogany hue, poured with a thick off-white froth settling slowly to a thin cap sustaining throughout the drink.
S: rawish, vividly chewy malt grist... fuller than full on the aroma; chunks of aromatic, vanilla-ish dark chocolates balanced with a dense, sour-sweet fruity+vinous edge like semi-fermented (or almost rotten) dried dates+plums+grapes; all elements of aroma serve to highlight an intense wave of earthy and slightly stinky note as in sticky treacles as well as blue cheese(!)... (I guess that's the work of yeasts?) Overall, the aroma is distinctive and shows the depth of a good dark ale.
T: surprisingly light on the palate (as opposed to the rich aroma), with smoothly sweet coffee-flavoured toffee and roasted honey-coated cashew-nuts to dominate; quickly ensued by an even lighter flow of sour-sweet dark fruits with a slightly tangy edge of red grape-juice and a sour-edge of plum-juice... A restrained, shallow-bodied licorice herbal taste of hops as well as a soothingly dryish roast-malty tinge (like Dark Mild) are left at the end of the sides of the tongue, where the dark fruitiness still hovers like the aftertaste of dried black dates. Interestingly, there's more aroma than flavour lingering in the short finish.
M&D: lighter-than-expected-bodied, soft on the texture and the finish falls a bit watery; but the flavour is quite typical of an English Porter to me, with a balanced profile b/w fruitiness and dark malts and a rather smooth texture easy to quaff for both "real porters" and casual drinkers alike. It's just that, the divergence b/w the much-promising aroma and the underperforming flavour comes as a bit of surprise to my naive expectation... (1,827 characters)

Photo of scruffwhor
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance- An inky dark brown slash mild black hue. Head was a light tan. Lots of sediment at the bottome of the pint glass. Uncommon for most porters.

Smell- Lots of deep roasted malts better described as drak roasted coffee beans. The hops presence was a little rye like in aroma.

Taste- A little creamy note added to the dark roast coffee beans. With some hints of tobacco and wood. The malt presence is very strong with only very subtle bitterness that mixes well with the malts.

Mouthfeel- Mostly silky smooth but with a little dry Irish/cream stout qualities. (576 characters)

Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.87/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer poured into the glass clear brown with an amber hue and a tan low head which lasted well to lace the glass.

The aroma was malty with a sherry aroma and complexity. The aroma smelled much more alcoholic and interesting than a 5.0% ABV beer. Cherries and fruity aromatics were present as well as chocolate and a bit of roasted and perhaps coffee.

The flavor was lighter than would be expected from the clues given by the aroma. Contained in the flavor were a fruity flavor coupled with chocolate and cherries. The flavor was muted compared to the aroma and bit on the lighter side with coffee still in the mix, but some black patent showing up in the flavor and a bit of a winey note.

The finish was just dry with a lasting sherry and coffee/chocolate into the aftertaste and beyond. The body was medium light and the carbonation level was fairly low. A great aroma, but a lackluster flavor.

11.2 ounce bottle. (930 characters)

Photo of sevineyes
3.07/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a brown bottle with a sihlouette of a ship against a full moon on the label.

A: Seems to be a bit light for a porter. Definite ruby hints, but I can see the whole bottom of my glass. Poured with a dense head, but not very thick and only slighty off-white.

S: Weak smell. Bananna. Sour cherries, sugared fruit skins. Really pleasing sourness coming through. Pick up some coconut. Has almost a medicinal sanitary aspect in the final portions of the smell. A roastiness comes through.

T: Smells much stronger. Watered down whiskey. Some pepper. Overall the main thing is a sweetness that's very natural and fruit-like.

M: Extremely watery, but leaving with an evaporative quality similar to sweating on a hot summer day.

Overall: Supremely drinkable for a porter. Unfortunatley the smell is weak and the mouthfeel is weaker. Although the smell is very complex I just wish it had a bit more chutzpah. (924 characters)

Photo of greenjeff4141
4.57/5  rDev +19.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

The smell is very mellow and subdued. The best way to describe this porter is to say it was like silk. Very smooth, very little carbonation. The taste is of chocolate and a little smokey charcoal flavor. Very creamy texture.

One of my favorite Porters. (255 characters)

Photo of Jredner
3.13/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Suprisingly sweet and malty aroma. No roastiness at all in the aroma. Deep brown with reddish tints. Very untraditional, traditional porter. It tastes little like what porters now taste like. Comes across as a malty dark bitter. Molasses and black licorice flavors. Interesting, but I like my new world fake porters better. (323 characters)

Photo of HochFliegen
3.57/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark brown with ruby red tones in the light. Very little head to speak of. What was there was a tan color.
Smell was quite malty & nutty. Hints of chocolate linger as well along with a spalsh of some fruit. Couldnt detect the fruit odor all the time but in the end of the whif I could.
Taste was fruity tart and malty at first. Followed by a roasted malt/burnt coffee flavor that lingered along with a bite of bitter. (420 characters)

Photo of Px2GrafX
4.07/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

presentation: 11.2oz. bottle with a black, gold and white label. an old sailing ship is at sea on the label and in big type is "original flag porter". "gold medal 94 points" at the world beer championships."brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the english channel using an original 19th century recipe". abv is displayed at 5%. no freshness date. "brewed without artificial additives".

appearance: pours a dark brown but not nearly as opaque as other porters. red brown highlights and clear. head is surprisingly light off-white. about a half an inch and eventually drops to a patchy ring. lacing is decent.

smell: mild malt aromas that are lightly sweet with a hint of oatmeal. caramelly with a faint aroma of coffee. wow, a nice cherry aroma sparkles as this brew warms. i get it every time i take in a whiff while sniffing. nice!

taste: malty sweet caramelly biscuits. light bitterness to compliment. a roasted smokiness can be detected along with a roasted peanutty flavor over coffee. aftertaste is sweet and lightly astringent. chocolate flavors become more apparent as the brew warms.

mouthfeel: very light for a porter, however, crisp, clean and smooth. carbonation is light to moderate, and the swallow is silk.

drinkability: very drinkable porter. mouthfeel, aroma and flavors attest to this. alcohol is non-existent. i could definitely make a session out of this.

overall: very nice english porter. definitely has it's place. i prefer a few different things, and probably prefer the american style more, but this is definitely a tasty, easy to drink, and accurate portrayal. (1,624 characters)

Photo of Zorro
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear dark brown beer that you can just barely pass light through. Red Highlights show when held up.

Very aromatic porter here. Lots of roasted malt and chocolate in the scent. Fainter odors of coffee and fruit.

Taste is fruity and acidic on the first taste with a roasted malt after taste. Mild sweetness and chocolate flavor comes net and finishes with the wine like finish of lightly roasted coffee.

Mouthfeel is good and just right.

Drinkability is this beers best quality. Tasty yet not tiring, restrained alcohol level, good aroma and solid mouth feel all combines to make superior quaffer. (616 characters)

Photo of Brian700
3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I remember trying one of these when I was first getting into good beers and I though it was awesome. Now, not so much.

This beer pours a dark garnet/deep brown color with a tan head that didn't really stick around very long.

The aroma was pretty lacking. I smell some light roastiness but not much more.

The flavor (right after the pour--somewhat cold) is somewhat roasty with mild chocolate flavor. Not very complex. It seems to be lacking something.
The flavor (after warming up a bit) is much better. There are a lot more chocolate notes coming through and the flavor seems to be enhanced by a great deal. Still a little bit lacking though.

The mouthfeel is good. Medium body and medium carbonation.
I'd say it's a decently drinkable beer. This beer reputation in my area seems to be to much for this beer to live up to. Not a bad beer though. (861 characters)

Photo of tgbljb
4.07/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

selection of beer of the month club. poured a deep brown color with medium tannish head that quickly fell to a nice ring. At first the smeel was toatl chocolate but gradually a fruity maltiness came through. Taste is toasty, coffee, chocolate and very enjoyable. Finish is a slight dry bitterness but a bit understated. A very good beer. (337 characters)

Photo of Naes
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The appearance is brownish black, with a medium tan head that disappears quickly.

Aroma is of malts, chocolate and alcohol. Also some roastieness.

Its flavor is roasty and nutty.

The mouth feel is a bit thin (light to medium bodieds), but not overly watery. It has good carbonation and is quite smooth.

This one is an easy going porter, quite consumable. Although I definitely liked this beer, I don’t think I will be purchasing much more of this beer. For the price, I can have two beers of equal quality.

Definitely worth trying if you have never had this one. (580 characters)

Photo of BeerFink
3.67/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Let's see how this 1825 yeast tastes...

Pours a deep brown with ruby highlights when held to light. Head is minimal. Malty aroma with some nuttiness and chocolate, a little yeast. Taste is good, but nothing exciting. Its like a light version of a traditional English porter. Dark malt exhibit equal parts toasty and roasted. Minimal coffee and chocolate presence. Some nuttiness comes through as well. Mouthfeel is pretty thin. Finish is dry and a little musty. Not a bad porter, but not exciting either. Definitely worth a try just for the novelty of trying an old style of porter. (585 characters)

Photo of AlexJ
4.47/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

A nice find at Peabodies in Boone, NC. It pours from the bottle a dark brown, cola colored brew. It puffs up a nice 2-fingers of milk-chocolate colored head. Head soon fizzles down to a ring, leaving some spotty lace as it does.

The aroma is all chocolate, coffe, and vanilla, mmm. Sweet, roasty and toasty, brimming with fresh-baked brownie appeal. This is how I want my porters to smell, right on!

Oh yeah, loads of creamy cocoa and dark, roasted malts upfront, followed by bittersweet coffee and espresso notes. There is a bit of vanilla, cinnamon, and light, yeasty spice flavors playing around as well. This is delicious!

The only thing it lacks is the body of a hearty porter, but the abundance of perfect flavors make up for it. Mouthfeel is very smooth, creamy, and soft. The end result, a porter that packs a ton of flavor, while remaining light, quaffable, quenching, and absolutely satisfying. (913 characters)

Photo of EPseja
3.54/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Split a room-temperature 12oz. bottle of this before sushi lunch with Ego (another BA poster). The yeast used in the creation of this beer was salvaged from bottles found in an English shipwreck, and applied to a 19th century recipe. Bonus points for intrigue.

Appearance: Pours the color of Coca-Cola with a head to match. Much less thick than I initially thought it would be. The beige head gave out quickly, hanging on to the edges of the glass and leaving the center bare.

Smell: Big hybrid of chocolate mocha right off the bat. Burnt caramel, charred marshmallows. Very enticing.

Taste: Striking hit of smokey peat up front. Surprisingly clean and not very sweet, especially with such noticeable caramel in the nose. Aftertaste reveals bittersweet baking chocolate. Not sure where the coffee scent from the nose disappeared to!

Mouthfeel: More carbonated than I thought it would be. Less body than I originally expected. Slightly uncharacteristic compared to similar Porters I've had.

Drinkability: A bit too carbonated for my tastes. Lack of sweetness and thickness makes it physically easier to drink (less filling) although the almost too-clean taste isn't a plus for a Porter.

In conclusion, this is a decent but not exceptional Porter except for the history behind it's creation. This beer must be drank at room temperature to fully enjoy it's character! This beer would suffer greatly if served cold. (1,429 characters)

Photo of masterbruewer
3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Typical porter appearance. Dark, dark brown with tan head. Light to moderate carbonation.

The smell was sweet with chocolate/coffee and fruit flavors and a bit of a harsh alcohol scent.

The flavor was classic porter, strong dark flavors of coffee and chocolate with some fruitiness. A little bit of harsh alcohol taste takes away from the flavor a little.

Mouthfeel was smooth and creamy.

Drinkability wasn't bad but takes a hit from the harshness. (460 characters)

Photo of walleye
3/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

poured a deep mahagany with a very small tan head that didn’t last. aromaplums, honey, molasses, brown sugar, dark chocolate, with hints of licorice. flavor, weak, watery, bitter chocolate, molasses, dryness, a little diappointed with the flavor I was hopping for more robust flavors. (285 characters)

Photo of dgallina
3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with mahogany tones and minimal head which leaves a thin layer of foam and persistent lacing. Subdued roasted coffee and chocolate malt aroma. Creamy and sweet initially, develops into roasted coffee flavors and finishes with some dry hop bitterness. Predominantly creamy medium body, perhaps on the slightly timid side. Very easy to drink, but not enough flavor to make me want another overall. (407 characters)

Photo of Billolick
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ouncer, Freshness dating. Poured very dark brown, almost black, tiny bubble white head, leaves nice wispy lacing. Slight nose of coffee beans and burnt malt. Light bodied, nice mellow notes of coffee, chocolate and vanilla. Smooth brit style porter, understated, mellow and tasty. I read some of the other reviews, some folks were dissapointed by this brew. Not me, this was a tasty, nicely crafted Porter. (409 characters)

Photo of connecticutpoet
4.47/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I was intrigued by this beer, and the history involved. Definitely a draw.

It poured a nice red-brown color with almost no head... but that is because I poured it slowly.

The aroma was of dark, rich malt, hints of bitter chocolate, and a light roasted undertone. Very well-balanced.

The taste was of nice dark malt, very smooth and easy-drinking, with a lightly roasted finish. Very good indeed. (404 characters)

Photo of ChrisBowers
3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I was sorta disappointed in this beer. The thought of tasting something made from a yeast strain cultured from a bottle on the english channel intrigued me. Poured out of the bottle a dark brown/black with a light head that disappeared quickly. Nose was of chocolate, prunes and coffee. What really disappointed me about this beer was the mouthfeel. It was thin and watery, not rich like I expected it to be. Taste was ok, but the flavors were all muted. Maybe I got a bad bottle, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would. (532 characters)

Photo of ark57
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It pours a black with some ruby tinges and a tan head. The aroma is roasted malts and chocolate and some sea breeze (though maybe that is my mind oplaying tricks on me because I knwo where they got the yeast). It is really smooth and robust with chocolate and a touch of coffee. There is a lingering roasty finish. (314 characters)

Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
86 out of 100 based on 88 ratings.