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Original Flag Porter 1825 - Elgood and Sons Ltd

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Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825

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BA SCORE
86
very good

91 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 91
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 0
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Now brewery by Darwin:
 http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profi ... /935/14563 

(Beer added by: pezoids on 09-30-1998)
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connecticutpoet

Connecticut

4.47/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I was intrigued by this beer, and the history involved. Definitely a draw.

It poured a nice red-brown color with almost no head... but that is because I poured it slowly.

The aroma was of dark, rich malt, hints of bitter chocolate, and a light roasted undertone. Very well-balanced.

The taste was of nice dark malt, very smooth and easy-drinking, with a lightly roasted finish. Very good indeed.

Serving type: bottle

07-11-2004 21:40:47 | More by connecticutpoet
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ChrisBowers

Virginia

3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I was sorta disappointed in this beer. The thought of tasting something made from a yeast strain cultured from a bottle on the english channel intrigued me. Poured out of the bottle a dark brown/black with a light head that disappeared quickly. Nose was of chocolate, prunes and coffee. What really disappointed me about this beer was the mouthfeel. It was thin and watery, not rich like I expected it to be. Taste was ok, but the flavors were all muted. Maybe I got a bad bottle, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2004 14:58:21 | More by ChrisBowers
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ark57

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It pours a black with some ruby tinges and a tan head. The aroma is roasted malts and chocolate and some sea breeze (though maybe that is my mind oplaying tricks on me because I knwo where they got the yeast). It is really smooth and robust with chocolate and a touch of coffee. There is a lingering roasty finish.

Serving type: bottle

04-01-2004 19:52:30 | More by ark57
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pezoids

Pennsylvania

4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a very dark chestnut brown color and looked black at first glance. The aroma is very estery – with rich roasted grains, sweet caramel and a fruity sourness. The taste is roasty and smoky. A pleasant and musty sweet maltiness coats the tongue and lingers in the throat. Hop bitterness is low to nonexistent, but the roasty bitterness makes up for it. Fermented fruits come out as the beer warms. Figs and prunes along with candy caramels and a touch of molasses. The mouthfeel is medium to light but matches well with all the intense and dark flavors. Overall, a rich and roasty porter. I enjoyed this beer.

Serving type: bottle

03-18-2004 23:25:18 | More by pezoids
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CortexBomb

Michigan

3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Like others I was drawn in by the tale on the bottle, and the possibility to try an authentic old style porter.

Flag poured out standard porter black, but had a very slight head which quickly disspated. The aroma was nice though, very malt oriented with a hint of prunes in the background, quite alluring.

Taste is the nicely sweet which pairs with malts and plenty of grain too. Pretty decent, but nothing overly different from any of the modern porters as far as I could tell.

Mouthfeel was moderately thick, but nothing to write home about, the same story on drinkability.

Decent brew but I was expecting more.

Serving type: bottle

03-03-2004 00:43:26 | More by CortexBomb
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Gusler

Arizona

4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The pour a very deep garnet to brown, the head modest in size, creamy in its consistency, with decent lace to cover the glass. Nice malt nose, toasted grains, light coffee, and even a very slight hint of yeast. Malt front, top is middling in feel, the finish sparingly carbonated, nicely hopped, and droughty malt dry aftertaste. The quintessential “Porter”, made the old way, and mores the rub there aren’t more around.

Serving type: bottle

01-03-2004 22:57:07 | More by Gusler
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pio

Virginia

3.43/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

i was very glad to find this beer again.
dark ruby brown liquid. not a huge amount of head what is there is cream/tan colored and reduces to al halo with big and little bubbles. spotty lace noted.
caramel, molasses dark bread crusts and scorched sugar is in it's scent.
flavor is straight ahead and rather one dimentional. coffee maltiness and a yeasty hint of port beginning the finish. it dries and bitters upon it's finish but just enough and no more.
the mouthfeel is slightly active with a big bubbly feel but i'd say a tad watery.
very sessionable but only if you can afford it, no points off for the expensive nature of this purchase. remember it's only a purchase while you have it in the store, after that it's beer.
cheers!

Serving type: bottle

12-24-2003 01:01:15 | More by pio
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crookedhalo

Pennsylvania

3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a brown light coppery color, vigourous pour only produced a thinner light tan head. Smells buttery, malty, earthy with the slightest cinnamon, coffee and tea smell, too. Tastes a bit thin, but a quality English porter base is there, and the history is rather intriguing (but that's not what I'm reviewing). Some good scorchy malt flavors in there. A bit diacetyl, but in style. Overall, a quality porter, not, however, one of my favorites.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2003 08:21:40 | More by crookedhalo
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Rumrunner

California

3.78/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle. Nice ship on the lable.

A bit rough around the edges.

Pours a dark black. Not much head and little to no lacing. Head disipates and forms an oil slick froth over the beer. Scents are mild brownie, coffee and dough. A malty carob also presides.

Flavors have some bite. A toasted coffee starts and subsides in to a creamy coffee and carob flavor. Plenty of toasted bread and cookie dough. A very sweet port wine flavor in the end.

Mouthfeel is watery and weak. A very slick unappealing feel overall. It is very easy to drink but then again I can think of plenty of porters I would have before this one. It is good, just not great.

Serving type: bottle

11-25-2003 10:23:33 | More by Rumrunner
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daledeee

Iowa

3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Interesting story behind this one. Smells like Starbucks when you pour it. Good strong coffee smell. Another not so fresh smell along with that. Not a strong head but nice clear dark. Taste was a little watery tasting to me(believe it or not) but it got better as it warmed up. Bitter chocolate and coffee in the taste. Somewhat dry finish.

Serving type: bottle

11-18-2003 03:21:14 | More by daledeee
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RoyalT

Ohio

3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance – Very dark ruby black with visible carbonation and no head.

Smell – The sherry and roasted malt aroma is offset slightly by a small showing of hops. There’s also a deep, dark sweetness to this one. Ripe apricots, peaches, and plums soaked in molasses come to mind.

Taste – Yes, there’s definitely a hop balance to this one. The sweetness from the nose takes a step back as the roasted malt rules the show.

Mouthfeel – In between medium and full in the body with a somewhat dry, refreshing finish.

Drinkability – Not bad for $1.40 per bottle. This is definitely one I wouldn’t turn away.

Serving type: bottle

11-12-2003 02:10:09 | More by RoyalT
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edchicma

Massachusetts

4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

An extremely nice brew..dark chocolate appearance with aa rich chocloate smell. Taste is mild, but with a very smooth malty presence that is slightly smoky. Mouthfeel is somewhat light, but carries enough body to be much above average. Extremely easy to drink, with a pleasant, malty aftertaste.

Serving type: bottle

11-01-2003 01:03:49 | More by edchicma
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beergeek279

Pennsylvania

4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in the 12 oz. bottle. The color is a dark brown, with a ring of white head. The smell is a very rich chocolate/roasted malt. The taste is a very strong coffee/chocolate malt; fairly dry but still quite good. Mouthfeel is smooth. Drinkability-wise, could definitely have many of these.

On a recommendation (based on an argument on the best porter), I gave this a try, and I have to thank the man who recommended this beer, because it definitely stands up with the best of them, If this is how porter tasted in 1825 then, minus a life expectancy of 40, it would have been a good time to be alive!

Serving type: bottle

10-26-2003 00:03:29 | More by beergeek279
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cerevisiaephilus

Michigan

2.68/5  rDev -30%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

This is a werid smelling and tasting beer. I'm getting some strange off scents and flavors, but I'm not sure what they are, almost winey. I don't think the beer is contaminated, but it tastes odd. There is definately some decent dark malt notes, but other than that, pretty lackluster.

I'd like to blame it on the yeast from 1825, but I read that nowadays, its only used for the bottle conditioning and a modern strain is used for the fermentation.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2003 03:11:30 | More by cerevisiaephilus
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ADR

Pennsylvania

3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque brown, tan light transmission at the bottom of the pint glass. A really hard pour produces a 3/4 inch head that settles to a 1/2 inch pile of creamy tan. Thicky dotty laces that drip down. Malty aroma, some chocolate sense with a slight bit of nutiness. Low carbonation and pleasant creamy mouthfeel, flavors ring of carob with a slight honey impression in the swallow and aftertaste. Nothing wrong with this beer, drinkable and entirely pleasant in the Brown Porter style.

Source: Liquid Solutions

Serving type: bottle

09-28-2003 18:07:01 | More by ADR
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beerguy101

California

3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewed with yeast from 1825 that was salvaged from a sunken vessel in the English channel. Brewed using an original 19th century recipe. Dark black/brown color, medium head. A full bodied porter. Deeply roasted malts. Carmel and chocolate. Not very hoppy. Full complex flavor. Mouthfeel is full and round. Finish is clean and crisp. Aftertaste is slightly bitter. Interesting beer. Ancient yeast provides no noticeable difference in taste. Still a very nice beer.

Serving type: bottle

08-12-2003 02:15:39 | More by beerguy101
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clvand0

Kentucky

2.78/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

This beer pours a dark color with ruby hints around the edges. I has a small head and a little bit of lacing on the glass. The aroma is of burned malts and chocolate - very pleasant. The flavor is very full bodied. The flavor is very strongly filled with the taste of coffee mixed with licorice. Personally I'm not a big fan of porters nor coffee, but I must admit that this was a well made and very good porter. Great representation.

Serving type: bottle

07-29-2003 02:40:30 | More by clvand0
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feloniousmonk

Minnesota

3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Drinking from a nice, warmed-up bottle...
Color is deep, dark brown, showing some reddish transparency around the sides and bottom, with a short, off-white head.
Aroma: delirious perfection! Rich, roasted coffee at first, then anise, big-time, spice, molasses, dark rum, more, ...I drank it in the nose long and deep, savoring every sniff!
Flavor from nose continue in the taste, but one thing really sticks out significantly: a lack of depth and a shallow mouthfeel. Barely pierces the palate, this one, and the finish is far too short and forgettable. I want a good porter to wrestle a little with my tongue, and more importantly, to really get comfortable and rest happily on the palate, spreading flavor all around the mouth, creating an overwhelmingly unctuous experience. Does. Not. Happen.
This enjoyably dark, twisted melange of flavor exists for a moment, then is gone long before you'd like it to.
Drinkability? Boy, you can toss them back, but the experience is too disappointing to want to revisit. Alas.
(Thanks to JohnnyDuvel for the sample!)

Serving type: bottle

07-18-2003 09:53:41 | More by feloniousmonk
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WVbeergeek

West Virginia

3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appears a deep nearly opaque brown amber tone with a milky tan head that leaves a miniscule amount of lacing. Aroma has mild chocolate roasts, creamy coffee notes, and some hints of fruit tones hidden somewhere in there. Taste is very good just lighter flavored for me same classic coffe/chocolate notes with the dark roasts sitting on the palate this beer works well together with a balancing light hop bitterness a session beer just a little too pricey. Mouthfeel is creamy textured medium in body classic representation of an English porter just nothing extraordinary going on. Drinkability is a nice session just lacking some flavor to be one of my staples.

Serving type: bottle

07-08-2003 07:19:02 | More by WVbeergeek
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granger10

Wisconsin

3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

This is a beer that I would almost forget I was drinking about while I was drinking it. All in all a fine porter but nothing that really knocks my socks off. The usual coffee and chocolate flavors are apparent but not too strong. A tiny bit of hop bitterness comes through by the finish. Relatively thin in body and taste. However it was easy to drink. I'm probably not going to buy this again because of the high price I paid for it. ($3.19/12 oz)

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2003 14:58:18 | More by granger10
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TheDM

Indiana

4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

This brew pours a small head of light brown fine to medium sized bubbles and a semi-opaque brown body. It has a very nice strong malt aroma and a very smooth mouthfeel. Its flavor is that of coffeea some roasted notes. THis is a very fine coffer flavored Porter indded. It goes down very nice and smmoth. I would definately like to have another one of these!

Serving type: bottle

06-13-2003 14:47:13 | More by TheDM
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hotstuff

Indiana

4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This particular Porter poured a small tan head with fine-medium bubbles. The lacing was fair. The body was brown in color. The aroma was that of chocolate and it had a smooth taste and mouthfeel. There was ever so slight of an aftertaste observed. I did not notice much of a coffee flavor with this Porter. This was one heck of a good Porter.

Serving type: bottle

06-13-2003 05:41:15 | More by hotstuff
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MJR

Missouri

3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a dark garnet with leathery brown highlights. It has a touch of cloudiness from the yeast sediment. The short-lived head survives only as a small ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.

Smell: The aroma is very 'soft' with a fair dose of smooth, roasted day-old coffee. There's also a touch of chocolate and a faint yeasty character.

Flavor: Malty with a slighty acidic undertone. The roasted coffee flavor is smooth and restrained, with a mellow bitterness. I pick up on chocolate and mollasses, but they're both way in the background. A bit of toffee, as well as a yeastiness show up late. Alcohol taste on the tail end. A bit weak, but still not bad...

Mouthfeel: Slighty acidic and sharp, with a fairly thin body.

Drinkability: As far as 'old-fashioned' porters go, this one is o.k. It's quite mild in both flavor and body. I could drink this again, but would like to try it from a handpump to help with the mouthfeel.

Serving type: bottle

05-05-2003 12:38:34 | More by MJR
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mzwolinski

California

3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown in color with just the thinnest of dark tan heads, this beer gives off an aroma which is at first quite nicely roasty and chocolatey, but soon fades in strength to a mild but persistent molasses scent. The body of the beer is medium full and quite smooth. Taste starts with a sweet caramel/molasses maltiness and ends with a nice tingly roastiness. Hops end a decent acidity to the finish and there seems to be a very subtle woodiness as well. On the whole, though, molasses sweetness dominates the flavor and crowds out most anything else. A decent porter, but fairly simple and unexciting.

Serving type: bottle

04-20-2003 16:56:20 | More by mzwolinski
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cokes

Wisconsin

3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark chocolate-orange. Tiny pale khaki head jogs quickly to the sides.
Powdery cocoa nose with traces of liquorice and plums.
A chocolate flavor bursts out initally, receding to a toasted liquorice. Turns a little vinous, with spectors of raisins and prunes. A touch of cola. Sour yeast tones are noted, not too surprised, since the the bottle claims the yeast is almost 180 yrs old. Hmm... Interesting marketing device, though it calls the credibility into question. Some leafy, herbal hops close things down, leaving just a lingering burnt chocolate residue.
It comes across thin and soda-like in the mouth.
Quaffable and decent, but not particularly special.

Serving type: bottle

04-17-2003 18:44:44 | More by cokes
Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
86 out of 100 based on 91 ratings.