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Original Flag Porter 1825 - Elgood and Sons Ltd

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Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825

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BA SCORE
86
very good

96 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 96
Reviews: 89
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 10.73%
Wants: 2
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: pezoids on 09-30-1998

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Now brewery by Darwin:
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Photo of TheDM
4.16/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

This brew pours a small head of light brown fine to medium sized bubbles and a semi-opaque brown body. It has a very nice strong malt aroma and a very smooth mouthfeel. Its flavor is that of coffeea some roasted notes. THis is a very fine coffer flavored Porter indded. It goes down very nice and smmoth. I would definately like to have another one of these!

Photo of hotstuff
4.26/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This particular Porter poured a small tan head with fine-medium bubbles. The lacing was fair. The body was brown in color. The aroma was that of chocolate and it had a smooth taste and mouthfeel. There was ever so slight of an aftertaste observed. I did not notice much of a coffee flavor with this Porter. This was one heck of a good Porter.

Photo of MJR
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a dark garnet with leathery brown highlights. It has a touch of cloudiness from the yeast sediment. The short-lived head survives only as a small ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.

Smell: The aroma is very 'soft' with a fair dose of smooth, roasted day-old coffee. There's also a touch of chocolate and a faint yeasty character.

Flavor: Malty with a slighty acidic undertone. The roasted coffee flavor is smooth and restrained, with a mellow bitterness. I pick up on chocolate and mollasses, but they're both way in the background. A bit of toffee, as well as a yeastiness show up late. Alcohol taste on the tail end. A bit weak, but still not bad...

Mouthfeel: Slighty acidic and sharp, with a fairly thin body.

Drinkability: As far as 'old-fashioned' porters go, this one is o.k. It's quite mild in both flavor and body. I could drink this again, but would like to try it from a handpump to help with the mouthfeel.

Photo of mzwolinski
3.72/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown in color with just the thinnest of dark tan heads, this beer gives off an aroma which is at first quite nicely roasty and chocolatey, but soon fades in strength to a mild but persistent molasses scent. The body of the beer is medium full and quite smooth. Taste starts with a sweet caramel/molasses maltiness and ends with a nice tingly roastiness. Hops end a decent acidity to the finish and there seems to be a very subtle woodiness as well. On the whole, though, molasses sweetness dominates the flavor and crowds out most anything else. A decent porter, but fairly simple and unexciting.

Photo of cokes
3.67/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark chocolate-orange. Tiny pale khaki head jogs quickly to the sides.
Powdery cocoa nose with traces of liquorice and plums.
A chocolate flavor bursts out initally, receding to a toasted liquorice. Turns a little vinous, with spectors of raisins and prunes. A touch of cola. Sour yeast tones are noted, not too surprised, since the the bottle claims the yeast is almost 180 yrs old. Hmm... Interesting marketing device, though it calls the credibility into question. Some leafy, herbal hops close things down, leaving just a lingering burnt chocolate residue.
It comes across thin and soda-like in the mouth.
Quaffable and decent, but not particularly special.

Photo of Reidrover
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

mmm unusual label story lets see how those 1825 yeasts hold up.
The beer pours a nice dark mahogany brown with a good sized tan head,,though it goes down pretty quick all in all a good looking beer.
I liked the aroma of this beer,,very roasted malts so very chocolaty..but yet fresh.
again nice taste very cocoa like in the first instance then a dark coffee flavour takes over,,theres a hint of bitterness at the end( hops)
Feels very comfortable on the tongue,,tasty!
A quite drinkable Porter..i liked it,,very nicelly done.

Photo of Jarod
3.48/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

States on the side of the bottle/label that it uses 1825 yeast that was salvaged and uses a 19th century recipe. We will see if it holds up to its history.
This beer poured into the glass a mahogany color that was clear. When first poured it created a giant thick rich foamy head that was medium brown/cream in color. The foam lasted for some time then all of a sudden disappeared into a small rim around the glass. The second pour did not create the same result; it actually did not create a head at all. The aromas that came from the glass were of dark chocolate, burnt coffee, caramel, malt - which helped make the aroma somewhat sweet in nature. The tastes were of black coffee, burnt bitter chocolate, dark sweet malt, light hops, and faint fruit all through out, but ended with a coffee taste on the tongue. The body was light to medium and somewhat dry at the finish. All and all not that great of a beer, ok for it’s style, but not the best representative. I am glad that I got to try it, but probably wouldn’t order again unless the menu was scant. As far as them using a old recipe, good concept, but it needs some tweaking to fit with todays master brews. IMO

Photo of scottum
3.76/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark dark dark brown with a very thin head that is gone when you blink. Good malt blend. Tastes of burnt chocolate, but smooth. Hops are very mellow, perhaps too mellow. This is a decent porter, but not a favorite of mine. Worth a taste just for the history alone.

Photo of BitteBier
3.82/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark amber brown color with a finger's worth of head that dissipates quickly while showing some decent lacing. A strong smell consisting of semisweet chocolate and heavily roasted grains. Mouthfeel is rather watery though exceptionally creamy. Malty sweet flavor with the chocolatey, burnt notes that dominate the nose being more subtle in the taste. An interesting porter, to be sure, but not destined to be a staple in my fridge.

Photo of Mitchster
3.4/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This clear, dark mahogany (not black) brew required a vigorous pour, and formed a decent tan head with a pancake consistency, but quickly thinned, leaving some decent lacing. Mild carbonation, with small bubbles. Aroma is a bugger to figure out...Definite sweet chocolate is in there with potent walnut notes and scorched caramel, but of interest is a subtle (not smoky) grilled steak odor. Mouthfeel is slick with a medium-light body. Taste starts out with round English hops, some roasted grainy notes, fading into a slick, quickly disappearing somewhat watery, malty background, followed by caramel and ashen charcoal and ending in a very soft grainy, walnut finish. The overwhelming caramel and walnut makes me feel a little sick to my stomach. A decent English-style mild porter, but rather lifeless on it's own.

Photo of Wildman
3.78/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer poured a very dark amber color and formed a light tan foamy head that left some latticed lace as it subsided. Some carbonation was present. An aroma of malt and burnt coffee is present. A flavor of malt and burnt coffee. Fairly light for a porter, but not a bad beer.

Photo of AaronRed
3.88/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very nice beer indeed. It has that dark brown almost black appearance with a tan creamy head. Not much in the way of smell, but I don't think porters are built for smell anyway- maybe if they warm up a bit. As for taste, a nice burnt carmel and roasted malty flavor upfornt, with some hop bitterness toward the end. Extremely smooth, leaving a nice texture in your mouth. A solid beer for the cold weather.

Photo of Jason
3.82/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Minimal carbonation after a hard pour yields a bubbly tight tan lace, leather brown colour shows only a touch of chill haze.

Dark chocolate with hints of charcoal and malt sweetness as well as a light dark fruitiness.

Slick and creamy mouth feel with a very light carbonation, medium bodied with a malt sweetness that has character. Hints of dark chocolate, burnt grain and mildly soft charcoal. Hops are mild and the malt comes back with a cookie-like character. Finishes semi-dry with a light alcohol in the back.

A bit of a novelty brew, decent but not something I’d have more than a couple of times.

Photo of Dogbrick
3.71/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The instription on the bottle does indeed say "Brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the English Channel using an original 19th century recipe". While the latter part of that statement is not too hard to accept, come on. How much yeast could have been on that boat for them to still be bottling it? Regardless, this was a very good beer. This was an easy-to-drink Porter. Not as good as the other Porter related to a sunken ship (The Edmund Fitzgerald of course) but still robust and nutty. The palate was hard to describe, as it managed to be mellow and slightly bitter at the same time. Pours a deep dark brown with a quickly diminishing head. A warm, earthy brew. Very good. Hope they find another ship full of this one.

Photo of StevieW
3.76/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Deep black body with a creamy, full, fluffy tan head.Traces of shiny black and ruby color along the edges. Ample bubbles bust through, releasing a deep earthy, oak smell. Head settled to a light covering, like a dusting of snow to the bottom of the glass. Laced nicely. Taste was an interesting, complex, mix. Initial bitter, roasted shot. Then a port wine like, belgian tripel, roasted fruit middle. There is a definite sourness to the finish. A resin like, burnt, definitly burnt, coating stays on the tongue. I could having this every once in a while, maybe a snowed in night, and no need to reach for anything else. Interesting beer with the unique, tag of using a yeast salvaged from an 1825 sunken vessel. Does this mean it tastes like 19th Century beer ? I don't know, but it's worth trying once.

Photo of WilliamPhilaPa
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice dark brown color with a light ruby tint. Light sweet malt aromas on the nose. The same on the palate, sweet malt flavors, balanced well with the hops, very light chocolate notes and toffee as well... very good balance between being lightly roasty and lightly sweet... Overall this was a very enjoyable Original Porter!

Photo of Brent
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Advertised as brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the English Channel, and using a brewing recipe from that period, so I was curious to see how our American interpretation had evolved the style. Mouthfeel was somewhat thin, and caramel/toffee malts dominated. Hops were quite reserved, and the overall character of this porter was very mild, almost bordering on a brown ale. Quite pleasant, but nothing here that is particularly noteworthy. Worth a try as a curiosity, if nothing else (which may be what the brewers had in mind, anyway).

Photo of John
3.45/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown with ruby reddish hues from ambient light penetration. Minimal head. Hints of chocolate in the aroma. Chocolate malt and slight coffee bitterness flavor. Light-medium body. Pretty good, but probably not worth seeking out or the extra expense of an import. Presentation: 12oz. bottle.

Photo of jdhilt
3.34/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Very dark, heavy beer. Long lasting thick brown carbonation. Somewhat hoppy at the finish. Brewer is using the same recipe they used in 1825. Overall a good porter.

Photo of hooligan
3.9/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Beautiful dark brown with a thick off-white head that dies to a clinging lace. Smell is rich caramel, alcohol, and a slight spice. Malty and fruity upfront, just enough bitterness to clean the malt up at the end. Prickling carbonation on the tounge, thick mouthfeel. Excellent porter...

Photo of Todd
4.23/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 500ml brown bottle. 19th century motif adorns the label with a gold foil sheaf.

Appearance: Dark mahogany in colour, with a brilliant tan lace of a head which retains its froth.

Smell: Sweet caramel aromas and twang, notes of nuttiness and slight alcohol. Within the dark malts, a faint aroma of smoke can be retrieved.

Taste: The tastes echoes the smell. Rich brown malt flavour (extremely rare today) with an up-front caramel chewiness. Nutty, mild tangy sourness, some spiciness, touch of smoke (from the use of brown malt), an intense toasted and thin roasted flavour. All of these meld with a consistent sweetness. The afters go a bit grainy, bready, more spiciness with a mild hop bitterness to balance the palate.

Notes: This is a Porter, a true Porter. Brewed with yeast salvaged from bottles found in a barge, that sunk in 1825 off the English Channel. Without a doubt, this is the best traditional Porter tasted to date.

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Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
86 out of 100 based on 96 ratings.