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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) - Frederic Robinson Limited

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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)

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81
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109 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 109
Reviews: 48
rAvg: 3.54
pDev: 14.69%
Wants: 1
Gots: 5 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Frederic Robinson Limited visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Sigmund on 12-21-2008)
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Reviews by BedetheVenerable:
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3.53/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: 330ml brown pop top with nice raised lettering and labelling. Picked up on Lindisfarne for 2.99 (British pounds). Split with my wife into two stemmed tulips. Here's to one of the last survivors of our summer 2011 trip to England. Best before September 2012.

Appearance: This is a different looking beer than the regular Old Tom, which is 8.5%. Orange-amber brew with a nice ivory cap with good retention.

Smell: Dark fruit esters, a hint of caramel, and dusty chocolate and old-fashioned chocolate cream soda. A bit odd, but pleasant.

Taste: Lots less chcoolate than fruity esters, though there is a bit of chocolate cream soda. Still, this is more of a low-gravity old ale than 'chocolate beer' in my mind. Which is not to say it's bad, it's just not what I expected.

Mouthfeel: A bit shy of what I'd expect for 6%, but I think all the Old Tom versions use some simple sugars to lighten things up a bit.

Overall: Tasty, but not quite what I was hoping. I really like the regular Old Tom,a nd if offered the choice, I'd probably take that over this one. Still, this is in no way a bad beer, and as a traditional English ale, ticks the right boxes so to speak.

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Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.85/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 330ml bottle with a BB of Sept 2012. Picked up a long while back from a supermarket. The rear label describes it as a blend of Old Tom ale and quality cocoa, with a hint of Madagascan vanilla.

Poured into a Delirium chalice. A deep reddish-brown hue with good carbonation. Yields a large head of creamy off-white foam that remains for a few minutes before collapsing to a surface layer. Aroma of sweet chocolate notes, underpinned by fruity ale and hints of vanilla. Yeast esters and a whiff of booze lurk in the background. Unusual but nice.

Tastes of fruity strong ale with chocolate overtones. Slightly sweet. Notes of milk chocolate, dried fruit, caramel, vanilla, yeast esters and faint stewed leaves. A warming hint of booze in the background. Dry and mildly solventy, with little bitterness upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is velvety smooth with great body. Lightly tingly, but seems a bit flat. Mildly astringent, with an aftertaste of fruity yeast notes and a hint of chocolate.

Interesting and quite drinkable. The chocolate character is quite distinct; it smells almost like a bar of milk chocolate. It's an odd brew - the chocolate and strong ale flavours don't entirely blend or complement each other, yet it seems to work nonetheless. It's different from every other chocolate beer I've tried; the usual pairing is dark roasted malt and chocolate, which results in a deep bitterness that is absent here. It's not as good as the original Old Tom, but goes down nicely. To summarise: unusual but tasty. Worth trying if you come across it.

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3.68/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - A tawny, rusty color with an off-white finger of head that dissipates quicker than expected, leaving behind a broken layer of suds across the surface. Lacing is spotty, with fair stick.

Smell - The smell is divine; chocolate, coconut, light vanilla and caramel. Faint bourbon or oak that is nigh undetectable.

Taste - Begins with a heavy dose of milk chocolate character, quickly met by a moderate amount of oak and vanilla bourbon-like qualities. Light coconut. Finishes with a bit of everything described previously, and fades quickly.

Mouthfeel - Thin. Too thin. Weak carbonation to boot. Easily the weakest aspect of this beer. It's nearly a deal breaker.

Overall - I'm not completely sold on this beer. Its quirky flavor might have worked, but the uber thin body undercuts any potential. There's a bottling code of L1312, which I assume is a date of December '13. Based on web gathered info from the net, this is a best before date, and Old Tom has an 18-month freshness window. If my assumptions are correct, this beer could be nearly 2 years old. This might account for the weak and lifeless mouthfeel. If so, my main hesitation toward buying imports is yet again reaffirmed.

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2.68/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Pours dark copper with a large, fading head.
Skunky aroma at first, with only traces of chocolate noticeable. Some faint nutty and roasty malt is present
Flavours have similar problems, although a bit more chocolate presence helps, along with some nutty malt. However there's an overriding grainy note throughout and very little supporting malt. Also some industrial booze notes show up in the finish.
Body feels watery.

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4.25/5  rDev +20.1%

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3.25/5  rDev -8.2%

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2.83/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a dark brown opaque color with a rocky 2 finger head. Nice lace. Aroma is mostly malty caramel smell, with a mild chocolate sweetness mixed in there. While to aroma is mostly nice, the taste kinda loses it a bit. It's malty, a little nutty and a much milder chocolate note. Finishes a bit bitter and metallic. Feel is on the thinner side, but has a nice creaminess.

Over all, it's an average English ale. Wish they'd have done a better job with the chocolate.

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3.25/5  rDev -8.2%

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3.75/5  rDev +5.9%

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3.78/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Black Raven imperial pint glass. Pours a medium coppery amber. Half finger fine off-white head that dissipates to a ring with slight lacing. Interesting aroma of chocolate and faint light fruit. Pleasant. Light to medium bodied. Flavor is dominated by chocolate with a light base of toasted and sweet malt and faint nondescript sweet fruit. Finish is dry bittersweet chocolate a bit abrupt, but leaves a lingering cocoa memory. The flavor combination is well done. I'd like a bit more malt in an old ale, but this was satisfying and interesting. I will definitely revisit this.

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3.75/5  rDev +5.9%

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4.1/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - dark reddish brown with a half finger frothy head. Looks like a slightly darker brown ale
S - heavy malty smells , alcohol a hint of banana and some chocolate (was expecting more chocolate)
T - well it tastes like a strong ale - fruity esters, very malty, biscuit, caramel molasses and some roasted mlalt. There is a chocolate taste on the farewell, but it is not too strong. Hopping is earthy and moderate, and probably the minimum you could get away with at this strength of ale.
M - medium bodied , smooth. Despite the frothy head, the carbonation is actually fairly low
O - a full on ale that is quite moorish - beware quaffing it though as it will have you on your back. A good ale here.

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3.6/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is clear dark reddish amber in color and has a light to moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a finger high dense beige head that quickly died down and left a small patch of bubbles on the surface in the center of the glass as well as a ring of bubbles around the edge.
S: Light to moderately strong aromas of dark chocolate and cocoa powder are present in the nose, which become stronger as the beer warms up.
T: Like the smell, the taste is rather chocolaty but these flavors aren’t too strong and don’t overpower the underlying beer, allowing some notes of dark malts to shine through. Hints of vanilla are also noticeable in the finish; these seem to become stronger as the beer warms up.
M: It medium-bodied and slightly smooth on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is very easy to drink; the addition of chocolate and relatively low alcohol content might make this style a little more palatable to novice craft beer drinkers. I wouldn’t mind having this as an after dinner drink or pairing it with a dessert.

Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.4/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

This bottle was cellared for at least 8 months before drinking. Poured from the bottle into a Bruery snifter. The beer is dark, but clear with a reddish-brown color and a huge, majestic head of foam that lasts and lasts. The nose is rich and malty, with sweet bready notes, some dark fruit, toffee, and a hint of chocolate.

Light-medium body with a rather thin feel. Up front, the flavor is spot-on. Sweet, toasted malt and toffee, but then around mid-palate the flavor moves towards an herbal tea and lemon-like character that seems somewhat out of place in this beer. Where's the chocolate? Oh yes, on the label that's glued onto the bottle. It sure isn't in the flavor.

Somewhat disappointing entry that I was hoping would be a nice, dessert-like beer. I think a chocolate version of the Old Tom would be a nice beer, but they need to beef these up with more malt, more body, and more flavor. Twenty years ago the British would have been busting our chops for selling watery beers. Looks like the shoe's on the other foot now, Winston! Get it together, will ya?

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3.95/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml Brown bottle , best before Sep 2012, poured into a 'Hoegaarden Grand Cu' stemmed tulip.

Good reddy brown colour, head soon left leaving a tan coloured collar and a few pieces of lacing as the beer level fell.

Pleasant chocolate aroma is given off which carries on into the taste, true chocolate flavours throughout make this an interesting blend.

Different and well made, good carbonisation and throughly enjoyable. Really for a winters night, but equally as good as a summer nightcap.

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3/5  rDev -15.3%

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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) from Frederic Robinson Limited
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