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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) - Frederic Robinson Limited

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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)

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113 Ratings
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Ratings: 113
Reviews: 50
rAvg: 3.54
pDev: 14.41%
Wants: 1
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Frederic Robinson Limited visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Sigmund on 12-21-2008

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Ratings: 113 | Reviews: 50
Reviews by Zimbo:
Photo of Zimbo
3.11/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I was quite apprehensive about trying this to be honest.

When opened it smelled rather sour and almost vinegary but shortly thereafter the chocolate elements started to hit the surface. Smells and tastes sor of like what is called 'plain chocolate' in the UK which, if you didn't know, might as well be just called cooking chocolate given its spine curling shrill to the palate.
Still, reasonably rocky head and a fairly dark coppper brown in colour.
Interesting body, soft like candy sugar. Sour cherry and light fluffy furry to taste and though it smells ok it just tastes too confected and manufactured for its own good. And it just doesn't come together. Could really do with more bitterness and being more full bodied.

Better than I thought it would be though. But that's not saying much.

More User Reviews:
Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.85/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 330ml bottle with a BB of Sept 2012. Picked up a long while back from a supermarket. The rear label describes it as a blend of Old Tom ale and quality cocoa, with a hint of Madagascan vanilla.

Poured into a Delirium chalice. A deep reddish-brown hue with good carbonation. Yields a large head of creamy off-white foam that remains for a few minutes before collapsing to a surface layer. Aroma of sweet chocolate notes, underpinned by fruity ale and hints of vanilla. Yeast esters and a whiff of booze lurk in the background. Unusual but nice.

Tastes of fruity strong ale with chocolate overtones. Slightly sweet. Notes of milk chocolate, dried fruit, caramel, vanilla, yeast esters and faint stewed leaves. A warming hint of booze in the background. Dry and mildly solventy, with little bitterness upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is velvety smooth with great body. Lightly tingly, but seems a bit flat. Mildly astringent, with an aftertaste of fruity yeast notes and a hint of chocolate.

Interesting and quite drinkable. The chocolate character is quite distinct; it smells almost like a bar of milk chocolate. It's an odd brew - the chocolate and strong ale flavours don't entirely blend or complement each other, yet it seems to work nonetheless. It's different from every other chocolate beer I've tried; the usual pairing is dark roasted malt and chocolate, which results in a deep bitterness that is absent here. It's not as good as the original Old Tom, but goes down nicely. To summarise: unusual but tasty. Worth trying if you come across it.

Photo of TheSixthRing
3.71/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - A tawny, rusty color with an off-white finger of head that dissipates quicker than expected, leaving behind a broken layer of suds across the surface. Lacing is spotty, with fair stick.

Smell - The smell is divine; chocolate, coconut, light vanilla and caramel. Faint bourbon or oak that is nigh undetectable.

Taste - Begins with a heavy dose of milk chocolate character, quickly met by a moderate amount of oak and vanilla bourbon-like qualities. Light coconut. Finishes with a bit of everything described previously, and fades quickly.

Mouthfeel - Thin. Too thin. Weak carbonation to boot. Easily the weakest aspect of this beer. It's nearly a deal breaker.

Overall - I'm not completely sold on this beer. Its quirky flavor might have worked, but the uber thin body undercuts any potential. There's a bottling code of L1312, which I assume is a date of December '13. Based on web gathered info from the net, this is a best before date, and Old Tom has an 18-month freshness window. If my assumptions are correct, this beer could be nearly 2 years old. This might account for the weak and lifeless mouthfeel. If so, my main hesitation toward buying imports is yet again reaffirmed.

Photo of CrazyDavros
2.7/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Pours dark copper with a large, fading head.
Skunky aroma at first, with only traces of chocolate noticeable. Some faint nutty and roasty malt is present
Flavours have similar problems, although a bit more chocolate presence helps, along with some nutty malt. However there's an overriding grainy note throughout and very little supporting malt. Also some industrial booze notes show up in the finish.
Body feels watery.

Photo of EgadBananas
2.88/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a dark brown opaque color with a rocky 2 finger head. Nice lace. Aroma is mostly malty caramel smell, with a mild chocolate sweetness mixed in there. While to aroma is mostly nice, the taste kinda loses it a bit. It's malty, a little nutty and a much milder chocolate note. Finishes a bit bitter and metallic. Feel is on the thinner side, but has a nice creaminess.

Over all, it's an average English ale. Wish they'd have done a better job with the chocolate.

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.77/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Black Raven imperial pint glass. Pours a medium coppery amber. Half finger fine off-white head that dissipates to a ring with slight lacing. Interesting aroma of chocolate and faint light fruit. Pleasant. Light to medium bodied. Flavor is dominated by chocolate with a light base of toasted and sweet malt and faint nondescript sweet fruit. Finish is dry bittersweet chocolate a bit abrupt, but leaves a lingering cocoa memory. The flavor combination is well done. I'd like a bit more malt in an old ale, but this was satisfying and interesting. I will definitely revisit this.

Photo of EPortJake
4.12/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - dark reddish brown with a half finger frothy head. Looks like a slightly darker brown ale
S - heavy malty smells , alcohol a hint of banana and some chocolate (was expecting more chocolate)
T - well it tastes like a strong ale - fruity esters, very malty, biscuit, caramel molasses and some roasted mlalt. There is a chocolate taste on the farewell, but it is not too strong. Hopping is earthy and moderate, and probably the minimum you could get away with at this strength of ale.
M - medium bodied , smooth. Despite the frothy head, the carbonation is actually fairly low
O - a full on ale that is quite moorish - beware quaffing it though as it will have you on your back. A good ale here.

Photo of metter98
3.6/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is clear dark reddish amber in color and has a light to moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a finger high dense beige head that quickly died down and left a small patch of bubbles on the surface in the center of the glass as well as a ring of bubbles around the edge.
S: Light to moderately strong aromas of dark chocolate and cocoa powder are present in the nose, which become stronger as the beer warms up.
T: Like the smell, the taste is rather chocolaty but these flavors aren’t too strong and don’t overpower the underlying beer, allowing some notes of dark malts to shine through. Hints of vanilla are also noticeable in the finish; these seem to become stronger as the beer warms up.
M: It medium-bodied and slightly smooth on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is very easy to drink; the addition of chocolate and relatively low alcohol content might make this style a little more palatable to novice craft beer drinkers. I wouldn’t mind having this as an after dinner drink or pairing it with a dessert.

Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.48/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

This bottle was cellared for at least 8 months before drinking. Poured from the bottle into a Bruery snifter. The beer is dark, but clear with a reddish-brown color and a huge, majestic head of foam that lasts and lasts. The nose is rich and malty, with sweet bready notes, some dark fruit, toffee, and a hint of chocolate.

Light-medium body with a rather thin feel. Up front, the flavor is spot-on. Sweet, toasted malt and toffee, but then around mid-palate the flavor moves towards an herbal tea and lemon-like character that seems somewhat out of place in this beer. Where's the chocolate? Oh yes, on the label that's glued onto the bottle. It sure isn't in the flavor.

Somewhat disappointing entry that I was hoping would be a nice, dessert-like beer. I think a chocolate version of the Old Tom would be a nice beer, but they need to beef these up with more malt, more body, and more flavor. Twenty years ago the British would have been busting our chops for selling watery beers. Looks like the shoe's on the other foot now, Winston! Get it together, will ya?

Photo of BlackHaddock
3.94/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml Brown bottle , best before Sep 2012, poured into a 'Hoegaarden Grand Cu' stemmed tulip.

Good reddy brown colour, head soon left leaving a tan coloured collar and a few pieces of lacing as the beer level fell.

Pleasant chocolate aroma is given off which carries on into the taste, true chocolate flavours throughout make this an interesting blend.

Different and well made, good carbonisation and throughly enjoyable. Really for a winters night, but equally as good as a summer nightcap.

Photo of GONZALOYANNA
3.2/5  rDev -9.6%

330ml old shape bottle. Snifter glass. Slight winey & fudge chocolate aromas as cap is removed. Pours mahogany in color, cloudy appearance. Beige foam, close crown, nice retention. Roasted, herbal, brown sugar, chocolate & toffee aromas. Crispy upfront, roasted & black cocoa flavors. Medium body. Moderately high carbonation. Oily to watery texture. Slight licorice hints & herbal notes resolves in a long bitter/sweet finish. Chocolate tones on the aftertaste. Smooth drinkability.

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.7/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

11.2 oz bottle pours a medium brown color with a small off-white head. A few splotches of lace, but nothing special. I do like the bottle though, bonus points!

Nose is more vanilla than chocolate...maybe vanilla yogurt. Light cocoa dusting comes into play as it warms. Nutty yeast without alot of minerality so many British beers exhibit.

There's the minerals, coming on strong in the flavor along with the same cocoa-dusted vanilla yogurt I was getting in the nose...cola even. Interesting, but it is not really chocolaty or much of an Old Ale. It is, however, a tasty beverage. Mouthfeel is less than medium, especially for the style and lacks any sort of sweetness, which is kinda expected for a Chocolate Ale or Old Ale. I like it well enough, but I am not feeling compelled to go out an buy another.

Photo of claspada
3.95/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a clear dark amber/copper colors with a big fluffy khaki head that slowly dissipates leaving some spotty lacing.

Aromas begin with toasted bready and caramel maltiness. Then as I go back in again I get milk chocolate bar surprisingly which I didn't originally detect. In the background there is some English fruity yeastiness. Chocolate is more and more apparent as it warms but never in your face, subtle aromas overall.

The tastes follow the nose with a small burst of chocolate but it isn't too strong and doesn’t overpower the underlying beer; toasty, bready, caramel maltiness once again are definitely still able shine through. Hints of vanilla are also noticeable in the finish; these seem to become stronger as the beer warms up.

The mouthfeel is medium to light bodied with medium carbonation. Finish is a little thin and lackluster which is the only downside of this beer but I can't be too picky considering it's only 6% ABV.

Overall this was a nice subtle, simple yet tasty offering from a brewery across the pond that I am not too familiar with. Chocolate flavors are nice and subtle and balance the base beer quite well. I wish for my money that this beer had a bit more of a punch in flavor and mouthfeel. More of a strong Mild ale or an English brown by American standards than an Old Ale but definitely something I enjoyed. Because of the elevated $ tag though, I probably wont revisit anytime soon because Fullers makes tastier examples with their 1785 and Vintage ale.

Photo of Zorro
2.82/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Clear brown colored beer with next to no head.

Smell is English ale and a strong chocolate aroma. English style hops with prominent leather and tobacco leaf scents. Smells a little sweet but this isn't the most aromatic beer you are likely to smell this week.

Starts out Mildly sweet with a mild chocolate flavor. Slight bitterness. The flavor just doesn't develop much from here. Tastes something like a Shandy made with some sort of chocolate flavored soda.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Overall a disappointment. Tastes mildly like chocolate and has no alcohol taste to it. Might not actually technically be beer.

Photo of utfiero
3/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Color- cloudy brown with large particles floating. Full head.

Aroma- sweet with chocolate and overripe fruit.

Taste- mild with definite chocolate notes, overall sweet, finishes with hint of hops. Not a great English ale or a great chocolate beer. Oh well....

Poured from 330 ml bottle into a Liefmans Goudenband glass (my preferred all purpose beer tasting glass). Tasted June 2014.

Photo of Sigmund
3.81/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330 ml bottle, courtesy of Cardinal Pub & Bar, Stavanger. ABV is 6.0%. Mahogany coloured beer with a thick off-white to beige head. Strong and dominant sweetish aroma of chocolate and vanilla, not unpleasant, but pretty close ... The flavour has loads of cocoa and vanilla, on a malty base with some vinous notes, but the beer is not nearly as sweet as the aroma made me fear. There are some moderate hops in the finish. This is a nice change-of-pace beer, but I would normally prefer the "ordinary" Old Tom.

Photo of TheSarge
3.21/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Chocolate Tom makes a great appearance with 2.5 finger thick head, as well as a copper colored and cleanly filtered body.

Of course chocolate is in the aroma, but metallic fragrances are detectable too.

The taste is a little cherry upfront, but has the chocolate backbone.

This feels lively with much active carbonation, as well as slight oiliness and a warm finish.

Photo of mdagnew
3.81/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle bought from GapWines, Belfast...

Poured a deep clear coppery amber colour. Creamy head poured big, thick and foamy with a meringue like topping then faded slowly to thick covering that creeps up the glass...

Aroma - Strong notes of dark fruits (raisins, currents, dates) mixed with lots of cocoa powder and chocolate, toffee and treacle notes, ripe (and maybe a little sickly) fruits (banana and apple), hints of Mars bar, strong vanilla, hint of bourbon, some woody and earthy traces...

Taste - Pretty much as above... chocolate not as noticeable as i was expecting, good balance between toffee, dark fruits and the chocolate... light liquorice traces, cocoa, some coppery / metallic notes, slight hints of smokiness, vanilla, some spiciness, light grassy hops..

Feel - Pretty rich and smooth with just a little sharpness underneath... medium / full bodied.. drinkable enough but probably not something i'd want more than one of in a sitting...

Overall - A decent enough brew and much better than i expected.. worth a try...

Photo of mikeg67
3.63/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2 OZ BOTTLE. Pours dark amber with creamy white head and nice lacing. Aroma is of bread crust, chocolate and ripe fruit. Body is full and crisp. Taste is of cacao, milk chocolate, earthy hops and bready malt. Finish is long, semi-dry. Nice, balanced brew with just right amount of chocolate.

Photo of Thads324
3.77/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Pours a vibrant and deep amber color. Darker than expected. A big tan head that disappears almost immediately. No visible bubbles

Aroma of malt and caramel. Some leather, old sunflower seeds and candied sugar. A bit of chocolate sweetness but its minimal

Taste is similar to the aroma. Starts watery then transitions to a sweet caramel malt flavor. Muted toffee and mild brown sugar. An unsweeted cocoa flavor is very mild and mellow. A medium hop bitterness towards the end that melds with the cocoa flavor to balance the sweetness.

Very smooth, lower medium bodied brew. Hides the 6% admirably.

A pretty good brew, easy drinking and tasty. Nice change to American hoppy beers.

Photo of jdhilt
3.62/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours two finger khaki head that fades quickly to a ring, leaving some lace. Deep clear mahogany color. Light-medium carbonation and medium bodied. Chocolate nose and flavor is sweet and baked chocolate. $4.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Westborough, Ma.

Photo of TMoney2591
3.88/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a Dogfish Head snifter.

Going from Old to Chocolate, 'cause why the hell not? This stuff pours a deep garnet-brown topped by over a finger of dusky tan foam. The nose comprises cocoa, molasses, light clove, light cinnamon, light roasted malts, light oak, and a touch of black tea. Things are a bit more ephemeral than the Old Tom, though thankfully still quite pleasant. The taste brings in more of the same, with the emphasis decidedly on the cocoa, which now takes on a powdery character. There's also a slightly deeper roast, a pinch of black pepper, and a hint of dark fruits way in the background. The body is a lithe medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, a very nice beer, one that shows you can go crazy with chocolate without overdoing it or completely overshadowing every other flavor.

Photo of MarkoNm
4.21/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Beer and chocolate - awesome.
Dark brown color is topped with a small off-white head. Initially the aroma is nothing but a strong alcohol smell - disappointed. But after letting it breath for some moments, you get an amazing dominant chocolate aroma (similar to chocoltae liqueur). Taste is sweet, chocolatey and pleasanty roasted. Finish is slightly hoppy, but otherwise neutral. After some time the bitter aftertaste kicks in, and rounds this beer.

Photo of ISmith87
3.53/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - 4 - Nice dark brown mahogany beer w thick white head w nice lacing.
S - 3.5 - caramel, booze, raisins. toffee, butterscotch, milk chocolate.
T - 3.5 - chocolate, vanilla, coffee, cream, bready malts.
M - 3.5 - medium body. alc covered. Aftertaste of bready malts, roasty malts, vanilla.
O - 3.5 - Meh. its not that great. Pretty smooth, but not much else,

Photo of Suds
3.72/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Saw this one on the shelf at a local beer store in northern Italy. The beer pours a clear but very dark brown color. The head is wispy and fairly thin. What's really remarkable about the beer is it's aroma...it's an intense mix of both vanilla and chocolate. At times one or the other seem to dominate, but they are the cornerstone scents of this beer. The chocolate is reminiscent of sweet, fine, chocolate powder (think an up-market version of nestle quick). Following the primary scents, there is a little toasted malt character, and very little (almost no) hop smells. The flavor is interesting...the same qualities that are present in the smell, but significantly muted. The beer is not nearly as sweet the aroma telegraphed. Lots of malt flavor, which pair nicely with the chocolate. The beer dries out by the finish, which does have a firm bitterness for balance. It's not the kind of beer that I'd have more than one at a sitting, but it is worth a try.

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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) from Frederic Robinson Limited
81 out of 100 based on 113 ratings.