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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) - Frederic Robinson Limited

Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)

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BA SCORE
80
good

87 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 87
Reviews: 43
rAvg: 3.52
pDev: 15.06%


Brewed by:
Frederic Robinson Limited visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Sigmund on 12-21-2008)
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StonedTrippin

Colorado

3.8/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

a variation on the classic old tom, i like this chocolate version for two reasons. the first is its lower alcohol lends to easy drinking. i could have many of these without losing my cool, which counts for a lot with a winter beer like this one. second, its not the least bit sweet, and is in fact shockingly dry, which also lends to greater drinkability and is a marked departure from the other chocolate ales out there. as an old ale, its less than remarkable though, not as malt driven or full bodied as it could be, but with the chocolate it just works. good toast to it all, bakers chocolate meets milk chocolate without the sugar, and the carbonation is light but the beer froths up nicely on the palate. a well refined brew, steeped in tradition yet modernized in a very appropriate way. something quite unique, fairly priced, and outstanding in winter weather.

Serving type: bottle

03-08-2014 21:50:04 | More by StonedTrippin
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TheSixthRing

California

3.68/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - A tawny, rusty color with an off-white finger of head that dissipates quicker than expected, leaving behind a broken layer of suds across the surface. Lacing is spotty, with fair stick.

Smell - The smell is divine; chocolate, coconut, light vanilla and caramel. Faint bourbon or oak that is nigh undetectable.

Taste - Begins with a heavy dose of milk chocolate character, quickly met by a moderate amount of oak and vanilla bourbon-like qualities. Light coconut. Finishes with a bit of everything described previously, and fades quickly.

Mouthfeel - Thin. Too thin. Weak carbonation to boot. Easily the weakest aspect of this beer. It's nearly a deal breaker.

Overall - I'm not completely sold on this beer. Its quirky flavor might have worked, but the uber thin body undercuts any potential. There's a bottling code of L1312, which I assume is a date of December '13. Based on web gathered info from the net, this is a best before date, and Old Tom has an 18-month freshness window. If my assumptions are correct, this beer could be nearly 2 years old. This might account for the weak and lifeless mouthfeel. If so, my main hesitation toward buying imports is yet again reaffirmed.

Serving type: bottle

01-24-2014 07:41:38 | More by TheSixthRing
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Zorro

California

2.8/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Clear brown colored beer with next to no head.

Smell is English ale and a strong chocolate aroma. English style hops with prominent leather and tobacco leaf scents. Smells a little sweet but this isn't the most aromatic beer you are likely to smell this week.

Starts out Mildly sweet with a mild chocolate flavor. Slight bitterness. The flavor just doesn't develop much from here. Tastes something like a Shandy made with some sort of chocolate flavored soda.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Overall a disappointment. Tastes mildly like chocolate and has no alcohol taste to it. Might not actually technically be beer.

Serving type: bottle

12-06-2013 03:04:04 | More by Zorro
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ISmith87

Arizona

3.53/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - 4 - Nice dark brown mahogany beer w thick white head w nice lacing.
S - 3.5 - caramel, booze, raisins. toffee, butterscotch, milk chocolate.
T - 3.5 - chocolate, vanilla, coffee, cream, bready malts.
M - 3.5 - medium body. alc covered. Aftertaste of bready malts, roasty malts, vanilla.
O - 3.5 - Meh. its not that great. Pretty smooth, but not much else,

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2013 05:00:06 | More by ISmith87
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MarkoNm

Slovenia

4.21/5  rDev +19.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Beer and chocolate - awesome.
Dark brown color is topped with a small off-white head. Initially the aroma is nothing but a strong alcohol smell - disappointed. But after letting it breath for some moments, you get an amazing dominant chocolate aroma (similar to chocoltae liqueur). Taste is sweet, chocolatey and pleasanty roasted. Finish is slightly hoppy, but otherwise neutral. After some time the bitter aftertaste kicks in, and rounds this beer.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2013 18:36:47 | More by MarkoNm
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xk6m6m5x

New Jersey

3.64/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pour two 6oz. servings for a friend and I

A- pours a opaque oranges-ish brown with no head or lacing.

S- I was disappointed, I got very little from the smell , very faint chocolate but nothing else.

T- WOW, very pleasing very nice chocolate and then a load of caramel with a very faint floral note at the end

M- creamy with moderate carbonation, very smooth

O- over all really good beer would defiantly drink again

Serving type: bottle

10-21-2013 16:48:56 | More by xk6m6m5x
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admiral

Australia

3.69/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A classic chocolate ale that is one you want to come back for

aroma: milk chocolate predominated

taste: milk chocolate, spices and slight lemon with some earthy/mineral flavours to compliment it all

A well balanced, tasty ale that is perfect with, or as, a dessert and great to have anytime of the day

Serving type: bottle

09-01-2013 06:03:50 | More by admiral
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Thads324

Connecticut

3.78/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Pours a vibrant and deep amber color. Darker than expected. A big tan head that disappears almost immediately. No visible bubbles

Aroma of malt and caramel. Some leather, old sunflower seeds and candied sugar. A bit of chocolate sweetness but its minimal

Taste is similar to the aroma. Starts watery then transitions to a sweet caramel malt flavor. Muted toffee and mild brown sugar. An unsweeted cocoa flavor is very mild and mellow. A medium hop bitterness towards the end that melds with the cocoa flavor to balance the sweetness.

Very smooth, lower medium bodied brew. Hides the 6% admirably.

A pretty good brew, easy drinking and tasty. Nice change to American hoppy beers.

Serving type: bottle

07-22-2013 01:46:51 | More by Thads324
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twiggamortis420

Texas

3.7/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

11.2 oz bottle pours a medium brown color with a small off-white head. A few splotches of lace, but nothing special. I do like the bottle though, bonus points!

Nose is more vanilla than chocolate...maybe vanilla yogurt. Light cocoa dusting comes into play as it warms. Nutty yeast without alot of minerality so many British beers exhibit.

There's the minerals, coming on strong in the flavor along with the same cocoa-dusted vanilla yogurt I was getting in the nose...cola even. Interesting, but it is not really chocolaty or much of an Old Ale. It is, however, a tasty beverage. Mouthfeel is less than medium, especially for the style and lacks any sort of sweetness, which is kinda expected for a Chocolate Ale or Old Ale. I like it well enough, but I am not feeling compelled to go out an buy another.

Serving type: bottle

04-05-2013 00:44:37 | More by twiggamortis420
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doktorhops

Australia

3.03/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Old Tom With Chocolate... sounds good, cat and chocolate together at last, and in a beer too. This is a new addition to Dan Murphy's and how could I resist the lure of a new review, it's intoxicating (literally).

Poured from a 330ml bottle into a nonic pint.

A: Body is a murky mixture of amber and brown, with a half centimetre cream coloured head. Quite within the Old Ale territory then... actually most Old Ales don't even have a head, so I'll give it extra points for that.

S: A heady aroma of chocolate liquor, Brandy, dark fruits and almond (???) wafts pleasingly from this brew and straight away I can tell that I'm in for a good time.

T: Hmmm, intriguing... not as bold in the sugars as expected. The chocolate that was clearly displayed on the bottle is an afterthought and hardly as noticeable as in Young & Wells Double Chocolate Stout. There is a slight booziness to it that you would account for in most Old Ales however apart from that it is quite different, overall the flavour feels quite muted, as if they watered down an original "hard" batch of Old Tom and added some chocolate flavouring. Disappointing actually.

M: Mid to light body, mild carbonation, perfectly average.

D: As stated above the aroma led me to believe that I was in for "a good time", alas the flavour was far too muted to tell myself that I was having "a good time". This is a once off brew for me as there are several other Old Ales that exceed it in price and quality such as: Hook Norton's Twelve Days ( a staple in my fridge now), Olde Suffolk English Ale, and Theakston Old Peculier (of course!).

Food match: Old Tom, the cat, roasted and served with a chocolate sauce.

Serving type: bottle

03-30-2013 04:27:50 | More by doktorhops
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mikeg67

New Jersey

3.63/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2 OZ BOTTLE. Pours dark amber with creamy white head and nice lacing. Aroma is of bread crust, chocolate and ripe fruit. Body is full and crisp. Taste is of cacao, milk chocolate, earthy hops and bready malt. Finish is long, semi-dry. Nice, balanced brew with just right amount of chocolate.

Serving type: bottle

01-09-2013 02:45:24 | More by mikeg67
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janubio

Spain

2.73/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330 ml. bottle. Pours a decent head, that doesn't linger much. Amber colour, with beatiful shades of red and orange to the light. I really can't find chocolate in the aroma, which is alcoholic, like a liquor, with aratificial vanilla and fruits. Medium body, thin palate. Taste is like a medical syrup, with chocolate, and fruits. It doesn't seem to work for me...

Serving type: bottle

01-06-2013 13:55:50 | More by janubio
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Offa

California

4.05/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Although I don't like this as much as the regular Old Tom, it is excellent nevertheless, characterful and very drinkable with a nice chocolate element adding nicely to the otherwise old-ale character.

Red, it has a medium-big tan head steadily shrinking to a foamy ring.

Aroma is chocolate/plain cocoa, hints of iron, fruity maltiness (plum wine), and bread crust, hints of earthy wood.

Taste is lightly winy fruitiness up front, then some chocolate, light woody-tea-like bitterness at finish. It is lively, engaging, fruity-and slightly woody ale with a hint of chocolate.

Serving type: bottle

12-14-2012 00:00:26 | More by Offa
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EPortJake

United Kingdom (England)

4.1/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - dark reddish brown with a half finger frothy head. Looks like a slightly darker brown ale
S - heavy malty smells , alcohol a hint of banana and some chocolate (was expecting more chocolate)
T - well it tastes like a strong ale - fruity esters, very malty, biscuit, caramel molasses and some roasted mlalt. There is a chocolate taste on the farewell, but it is not too strong. Hopping is earthy and moderate, and probably the minimum you could get away with at this strength of ale.
M - medium bodied , smooth. Despite the frothy head, the carbonation is actually fairly low
O - a full on ale that is quite moorish - beware quaffing it though as it will have you on your back. A good ale here.

Serving type: bottle

11-01-2012 20:24:02 | More by EPortJake
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TMoney2591

Illinois

3.9/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a Dogfish Head snifter.

Going from Old to Chocolate, 'cause why the hell not? This stuff pours a deep garnet-brown topped by over a finger of dusky tan foam. The nose comprises cocoa, molasses, light clove, light cinnamon, light roasted malts, light oak, and a touch of black tea. Things are a bit more ephemeral than the Old Tom, though thankfully still quite pleasant. The taste brings in more of the same, with the emphasis decidedly on the cocoa, which now takes on a powdery character. There's also a slightly deeper roast, a pinch of black pepper, and a hint of dark fruits way in the background. The body is a lithe medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, a very nice beer, one that shows you can go crazy with chocolate without overdoing it or completely overshadowing every other flavor.

Serving type: bottle

10-26-2012 15:36:44 | More by TMoney2591
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FLima

Brazil

4/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It poured very little foam. Very dark woody colour and with a clear chocolate aroma. Flavour was even richer, it tasted chocolate, slight black currants and port wine. Not overly sweet, elegant taste.
The 6% alcohol content was completely hidden. Very interesting beer, and amazingly drinkable once flavours matched perfectly.

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2012 23:42:48 | More by FLima
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jazzyjeff13

United Kingdom (England)

3.85/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 330ml bottle with a BB of Sept 2012. Picked up a long while back from a supermarket. The rear label describes it as a blend of Old Tom ale and quality cocoa, with a hint of Madagascan vanilla.

Poured into a Delirium chalice. A deep reddish-brown hue with good carbonation. Yields a large head of creamy off-white foam that remains for a few minutes before collapsing to a surface layer. Aroma of sweet chocolate notes, underpinned by fruity ale and hints of vanilla. Yeast esters and a whiff of booze lurk in the background. Unusual but nice.

Tastes of fruity strong ale with chocolate overtones. Slightly sweet. Notes of milk chocolate, dried fruit, caramel, vanilla, yeast esters and faint stewed leaves. A warming hint of booze in the background. Dry and mildly solventy, with little bitterness upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is velvety smooth with great body. Lightly tingly, but seems a bit flat. Mildly astringent, with an aftertaste of fruity yeast notes and a hint of chocolate.

Interesting and quite drinkable. The chocolate character is quite distinct; it smells almost like a bar of milk chocolate. It's an odd brew - the chocolate and strong ale flavours don't entirely blend or complement each other, yet it seems to work nonetheless. It's different from every other chocolate beer I've tried; the usual pairing is dark roasted malt and chocolate, which results in a deep bitterness that is absent here. It's not as good as the original Old Tom, but goes down nicely. To summarise: unusual but tasty. Worth trying if you come across it.

Serving type: bottle

09-12-2012 22:53:57 | More by jazzyjeff13
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BedetheVenerable

Missouri

3.53/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: 330ml brown pop top with nice raised lettering and labelling. Picked up on Lindisfarne for 2.99 (British pounds). Split with my wife into two stemmed tulips. Here's to one of the last survivors of our summer 2011 trip to England. Best before September 2012.

Appearance: This is a different looking beer than the regular Old Tom, which is 8.5%. Orange-amber brew with a nice ivory cap with good retention.

Smell: Dark fruit esters, a hint of caramel, and dusty chocolate and old-fashioned chocolate cream soda. A bit odd, but pleasant.

Taste: Lots less chcoolate than fruity esters, though there is a bit of chocolate cream soda. Still, this is more of a low-gravity old ale than 'chocolate beer' in my mind. Which is not to say it's bad, it's just not what I expected.

Mouthfeel: A bit shy of what I'd expect for 6%, but I think all the Old Tom versions use some simple sugars to lighten things up a bit.

Overall: Tasty, but not quite what I was hoping. I really like the regular Old Tom,a nd if offered the choice, I'd probably take that over this one. Still, this is in no way a bad beer, and as a traditional English ale, ticks the right boxes so to speak.

82

Serving type: bottle

08-05-2012 02:52:17 | More by BedetheVenerable
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BeerForMuscle

New Jersey

3.88/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Fat 11.2 oz bottle.

A - Crystal clear mahogany body with a soft, foamy head. Small bubbled carbonation.

S - Flavorful bitter brown ale scents, with toasted grain, molasses and bitter/nutty notes. Some hints of cocoa but none too strong.

T - A silky, rich and robust brew. Complex and perfectly balanced. The flavors of bitter grains, nutty oils, toasted malt and semi sweet chocolate meld harmoniously. A certain lactose sweetness to it.

M - Rich, smooth and creamy. A silky ride with a soft body and clean aftertaste, lingering a bit. Light and soft carbonation gives a smooth feel.

O - Interesting beer, hitting all the right notes. Not one to knock your socks off, but hard to find any flaws. If you are looking for a chocolate bomb, this one isn't for you, but a great beer nonetheless.

Serving type: bottle

06-03-2012 02:26:53 | More by BeerForMuscle
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DoubleJ

California

3.88/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've had a late dinner, and it's calling for a dessert. Sure, I could go for a Toblerone, or even some pie, but dammit, chocolate beer sounds like a good choice for the time being. Let's pull the bottle from the fridge, warm it up a little, and pop the lid of this stubby 330 ml bottle. On to the beer:

At points, the color of the beer is chocolate brown, but good lightning shows a beer that is closer to amber brown with orangish hues. The head formed on top is small, and its retention is middle of the road. However, it does leave acorss some creamy lacing around the glass. That nose doesn't get much chocolate across. The old ale elements of diacetyl, dried toffee, and a whisper of fruitiness come across stronger.

Now we come acorss the chocolate. Mixed with this old ale, this is one combination that I like. The flavor of semi-sweet chocolate comes out powdery. Caramel and buttersctoch notes compliment the chocolate well. Very subtle alcohol notes of able to senses, however they barely interfere with the overall beer. It's a medium bodied beer, and is a gentle ride in the mouth thanks to reasonable balance and controlled carbonation. The aftertaste of semi-sweet chocolate and hard water linger pleasantly.

A chocolate beer can be a hit or miss, but I think that the folks working on Chocolate Tom have done a commmendable job with this beer. It's got chocolate, not too much and not too little. All you chocoholics should get your hands on a bottle.

Serving type: bottle

05-20-2012 04:51:26 | More by DoubleJ
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jdhilt

New Hampshire

3.6/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours two finger khaki head that fades quickly to a ring, leaving some lace. Deep clear mahogany color. Light-medium carbonation and medium bodied. Chocolate nose and flavor is sweet and baked chocolate. $4.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Westborough, Ma.

Serving type: bottle

04-18-2012 22:12:54 | More by jdhilt
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EgadBananas

Louisiana

2.83/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a dark brown opaque color with a rocky 2 finger head. Nice lace. Aroma is mostly malty caramel smell, with a mild chocolate sweetness mixed in there. While to aroma is mostly nice, the taste kinda loses it a bit. It's malty, a little nutty and a much milder chocolate note. Finishes a bit bitter and metallic. Feel is on the thinner side, but has a nice creaminess.

Over all, it's an average English ale. Wish they'd have done a better job with the chocolate.

Serving type: bottle

03-31-2012 22:26:46 | More by EgadBananas
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claspada

New Jersey

3.95/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a clear dark amber/copper colors with a big fluffy khaki head that slowly dissipates leaving some spotty lacing.

Aromas begin with toasted bready and caramel maltiness. Then as I go back in again I get milk chocolate bar surprisingly which I didn't originally detect. In the background there is some English fruity yeastiness. Chocolate is more and more apparent as it warms but never in your face, subtle aromas overall.

The tastes follow the nose with a small burst of chocolate but it isn't too strong and doesn’t overpower the underlying beer; toasty, bready, caramel maltiness once again are definitely still able shine through. Hints of vanilla are also noticeable in the finish; these seem to become stronger as the beer warms up.

The mouthfeel is medium to light bodied with medium carbonation. Finish is a little thin and lackluster which is the only downside of this beer but I can't be too picky considering it's only 6% ABV.

Overall this was a nice subtle, simple yet tasty offering from a brewery across the pond that I am not too familiar with. Chocolate flavors are nice and subtle and balance the base beer quite well. I wish for my money that this beer had a bit more of a punch in flavor and mouthfeel. More of a strong Mild ale or an English brown by American standards than an Old Ale but definitely something I enjoyed. Because of the elevated $ tag though, I probably wont revisit anytime soon because Fullers makes tastier examples with their 1785 and Vintage ale.

Serving type: bottle

03-28-2012 23:34:30 | More by claspada
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CrazyDavros

Australia

2.68/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Pours dark copper with a large, fading head.
Skunky aroma at first, with only traces of chocolate noticeable. Some faint nutty and roasty malt is present
Flavours have similar problems, although a bit more chocolate presence helps, along with some nutty malt. However there's an overriding grainy note throughout and very little supporting malt. Also some industrial booze notes show up in the finish.
Body feels watery.

Serving type: bottle

03-25-2012 07:51:40 | More by CrazyDavros
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metter98

New York

3.6/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is clear dark reddish amber in color and has a light to moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a finger high dense beige head that quickly died down and left a small patch of bubbles on the surface in the center of the glass as well as a ring of bubbles around the edge.
S: Light to moderately strong aromas of dark chocolate and cocoa powder are present in the nose, which become stronger as the beer warms up.
T: Like the smell, the taste is rather chocolaty but these flavors aren’t too strong and don’t overpower the underlying beer, allowing some notes of dark malts to shine through. Hints of vanilla are also noticeable in the finish; these seem to become stronger as the beer warms up.
M: It medium-bodied and slightly smooth on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is very easy to drink; the addition of chocolate and relatively low alcohol content might make this style a little more palatable to novice craft beer drinkers. I wouldn’t mind having this as an after dinner drink or pairing it with a dessert.

Serving type: bottle

02-29-2012 04:31:33 | More by metter98
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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) from Frederic Robinson Limited
80 out of 100 based on 87 ratings.