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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) - Frederic Robinson Limited

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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate)

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Reviews: 51
Hads: 115
rAvg: 3.61
pDev: 11.08%
Wants: 2
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
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Frederic Robinson Limited visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Sigmund on 12-21-2008

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Photo of drmeto
3.55/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

L:
-pours a clear copper-ruby with a medium,foamy,beige head
-a lot of what i assume is chocolate chunks floating around
-medium carbonation visible
S:
-sweet chocolate,sour cherry,caramel,raisins,toffee
T:
-chocolate,caramel,toffee,strawberry,raisins,raspberries,coffee
F:
-medium carbonation
-medium body
O:
Fairly nice,sweetish ale.Quite different from the regular Old Tom (375 characters)

Photo of LordMashall
4.76/5  rDev +31.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 5

I just tried this Ale this evening with my wife and family. It was very choclatly which in my case is a very good thing "CHOCOHOLIC". Its like liquid chocolate beer with fresh malty goodness! Very good brew. (207 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.52/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazy dark orange-brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Small chunks of sediment are seen floating around in the beer after the pour. Smell is of Tootsie Roll, chocolate syrup, caramel, and slight nut aromas. Taste is much the same with chocolate syrup, chocolate milk, and slight caramel flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with solid chocolate characteristics all around.

Serving type: bottle. (671 characters)

Photo of Cyberkedi
4.06/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Strong, malty aroma has a firm overtone of cocoa - almost smells more like hot cocoa than like beer. Hey, I love chocolate! Pours a clear sepia with a nice fluffy and fine-bubbled wheat head. Malty flavor has a strong cocoa overtone, which I found rather enjoyable. I detected hints of apple and caramel as well. Texture has firm body and good fizz, leaving a malty and chocolaty finish. This is a good beer for the fall, when the leaves are turning and it’s time to break out the down comforter. (498 characters)

Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.48/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

This bottle was cellared for at least 8 months before drinking. Poured from the bottle into a Bruery snifter. The beer is dark, but clear with a reddish-brown color and a huge, majestic head of foam that lasts and lasts. The nose is rich and malty, with sweet bready notes, some dark fruit, toffee, and a hint of chocolate.

Light-medium body with a rather thin feel. Up front, the flavor is spot-on. Sweet, toasted malt and toffee, but then around mid-palate the flavor moves towards an herbal tea and lemon-like character that seems somewhat out of place in this beer. Where's the chocolate? Oh yes, on the label that's glued onto the bottle. It sure isn't in the flavor.

Somewhat disappointing entry that I was hoping would be a nice, dessert-like beer. I think a chocolate version of the Old Tom would be a nice beer, but they need to beef these up with more malt, more body, and more flavor. Twenty years ago the British would have been busting our chops for selling watery beers. Looks like the shoe's on the other foot now, Winston! Get it together, will ya? (1,066 characters)

Photo of GONZALOYANNA
3.2/5  rDev -11.4%

330ml old shape bottle. Snifter glass. Slight winey & fudge chocolate aromas as cap is removed. Pours mahogany in color, cloudy appearance. Beige foam, close crown, nice retention. Roasted, herbal, brown sugar, chocolate & toffee aromas. Crispy upfront, roasted & black cocoa flavors. Medium body. Moderately high carbonation. Oily to watery texture. Slight licorice hints & herbal notes resolves in a long bitter/sweet finish. Chocolate tones on the aftertaste. Smooth drinkability. (483 characters)

Photo of utfiero
3/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Color- cloudy brown with large particles floating. Full head.

Aroma- sweet with chocolate and overripe fruit.

Taste- mild with definite chocolate notes, overall sweet, finishes with hint of hops. Not a great English ale or a great chocolate beer. Oh well....

Poured from 330 ml bottle into a Liefmans Goudenband glass (my preferred all purpose beer tasting glass). Tasted June 2014. (387 characters)

Photo of eduardolinhalis
3.63/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

330ml bottle served in a Snifter glass.

A: Pours a magnificent dark amber color forming a small tan head. Low retention and few lacings left

S: Strong notes of caramel malts, toffee and chocolate

T: Slightly sweet upfront. Strong notes of caramel malts and chocolate. A bit fruity with some notes of raisins

M: Light body body good carbonation. Malty and chocolate aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. Nice British Ale (419 characters)

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.8/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

a variation on the classic old tom, i like this chocolate version for two reasons. the first is its lower alcohol lends to easy drinking. i could have many of these without losing my cool, which counts for a lot with a winter beer like this one. second, its not the least bit sweet, and is in fact shockingly dry, which also lends to greater drinkability and is a marked departure from the other chocolate ales out there. as an old ale, its less than remarkable though, not as malt driven or full bodied as it could be, but with the chocolate it just works. good toast to it all, bakers chocolate meets milk chocolate without the sugar, and the carbonation is light but the beer froths up nicely on the palate. a well refined brew, steeped in tradition yet modernized in a very appropriate way. something quite unique, fairly priced, and outstanding in winter weather. (868 characters)

Photo of TheSixthRing
3.71/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - A tawny, rusty color with an off-white finger of head that dissipates quicker than expected, leaving behind a broken layer of suds across the surface. Lacing is spotty, with fair stick.

Smell - The smell is divine; chocolate, coconut, light vanilla and caramel. Faint bourbon or oak that is nigh undetectable.

Taste - Begins with a heavy dose of milk chocolate character, quickly met by a moderate amount of oak and vanilla bourbon-like qualities. Light coconut. Finishes with a bit of everything described previously, and fades quickly.

Mouthfeel - Thin. Too thin. Weak carbonation to boot. Easily the weakest aspect of this beer. It's nearly a deal breaker.

Overall - I'm not completely sold on this beer. Its quirky flavor might have worked, but the uber thin body undercuts any potential. There's a bottling code of L1312, which I assume is a date of December '13. Based on web gathered info from the net, this is a best before date, and Old Tom has an 18-month freshness window. If my assumptions are correct, this beer could be nearly 2 years old. This might account for the weak and lifeless mouthfeel. If so, my main hesitation toward buying imports is yet again reaffirmed. (1,199 characters)

Photo of Zorro
2.82/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Clear brown colored beer with next to no head.

Smell is English ale and a strong chocolate aroma. English style hops with prominent leather and tobacco leaf scents. Smells a little sweet but this isn't the most aromatic beer you are likely to smell this week.

Starts out Mildly sweet with a mild chocolate flavor. Slight bitterness. The flavor just doesn't develop much from here. Tastes something like a Shandy made with some sort of chocolate flavored soda.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Overall a disappointment. Tastes mildly like chocolate and has no alcohol taste to it. Might not actually technically be beer. (607 characters)

Photo of ISmith87
3.53/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - 4 - Nice dark brown mahogany beer w thick white head w nice lacing.
S - 3.5 - caramel, booze, raisins. toffee, butterscotch, milk chocolate.
T - 3.5 - chocolate, vanilla, coffee, cream, bready malts.
M - 3.5 - medium body. alc covered. Aftertaste of bready malts, roasty malts, vanilla.
O - 3.5 - Meh. its not that great. Pretty smooth, but not much else, (362 characters)

Photo of MarkoNm
4.21/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Beer and chocolate - awesome.
Dark brown color is topped with a small off-white head. Initially the aroma is nothing but a strong alcohol smell - disappointed. But after letting it breath for some moments, you get an amazing dominant chocolate aroma (similar to chocoltae liqueur). Taste is sweet, chocolatey and pleasanty roasted. Finish is slightly hoppy, but otherwise neutral. After some time the bitter aftertaste kicks in, and rounds this beer. (450 characters)

Photo of xk6m6m5x
3.56/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pour two 6oz. servings for a friend and I

A- pours a opaque oranges-ish brown with no head or lacing.

S- I was disappointed, I got very little from the smell , very faint chocolate but nothing else.

T- WOW, very pleasing very nice chocolate and then a load of caramel with a very faint floral note at the end

M- creamy with moderate carbonation, very smooth

O- over all really good beer would defiantly drink again (419 characters)

Photo of admiral
3.68/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A classic chocolate ale that is one you want to come back for

aroma: milk chocolate predominated

taste: milk chocolate, spices and slight lemon with some earthy/mineral flavours to compliment it all

A well balanced, tasty ale that is perfect with, or as, a dessert and great to have anytime of the day (304 characters)

Photo of Thads324
3.77/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Pours a vibrant and deep amber color. Darker than expected. A big tan head that disappears almost immediately. No visible bubbles

Aroma of malt and caramel. Some leather, old sunflower seeds and candied sugar. A bit of chocolate sweetness but its minimal

Taste is similar to the aroma. Starts watery then transitions to a sweet caramel malt flavor. Muted toffee and mild brown sugar. An unsweeted cocoa flavor is very mild and mellow. A medium hop bitterness towards the end that melds with the cocoa flavor to balance the sweetness.

Very smooth, lower medium bodied brew. Hides the 6% admirably.

A pretty good brew, easy drinking and tasty. Nice change to American hoppy beers. (685 characters)

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.7/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

11.2 oz bottle pours a medium brown color with a small off-white head. A few splotches of lace, but nothing special. I do like the bottle though, bonus points!

Nose is more vanilla than chocolate...maybe vanilla yogurt. Light cocoa dusting comes into play as it warms. Nutty yeast without alot of minerality so many British beers exhibit.

There's the minerals, coming on strong in the flavor along with the same cocoa-dusted vanilla yogurt I was getting in the nose...cola even. Interesting, but it is not really chocolaty or much of an Old Ale. It is, however, a tasty beverage. Mouthfeel is less than medium, especially for the style and lacks any sort of sweetness, which is kinda expected for a Chocolate Ale or Old Ale. I like it well enough, but I am not feeling compelled to go out an buy another. (806 characters)

Photo of doktorhops
3.1/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Old Tom With Chocolate... sounds good, cat and chocolate together at last, and in a beer too. This is a new addition to Dan Murphy's and how could I resist the lure of a new review, it's intoxicating (literally).

Poured from a 330ml bottle into a nonic pint.

A: Body is a murky mixture of amber and brown, with a half centimetre cream coloured head. Quite within the Old Ale territory then... actually most Old Ales don't even have a head, so I'll give it extra points for that.

S: A heady aroma of chocolate liquor, Brandy, dark fruits and almond (???) wafts pleasingly from this brew and straight away I can tell that I'm in for a good time.

T: Hmmm, intriguing... not as bold in the sugars as expected. The chocolate that was clearly displayed on the bottle is an afterthought and hardly as noticeable as in Young & Wells Double Chocolate Stout. There is a slight booziness to it that you would account for in most Old Ales however apart from that it is quite different, overall the flavour feels quite muted, as if they watered down an original "hard" batch of Old Tom and added some chocolate flavouring. Disappointing actually.

M: Mid to light body, mild carbonation, perfectly average.

D: As stated above the aroma led me to believe that I was in for "a good time", alas the flavour was far too muted to tell myself that I was having "a good time". This is a once off brew for me as there are several other Old Ales that exceed it in price and quality such as: Hook Norton's Twelve Days ( a staple in my fridge now), Olde Suffolk English Ale, and Theakston Old Peculier (of course!).

Food match: Old Tom, the cat, roasted and served with a chocolate sauce. (1,670 characters)

Photo of mikeg67
3.63/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2 OZ BOTTLE. Pours dark amber with creamy white head and nice lacing. Aroma is of bread crust, chocolate and ripe fruit. Body is full and crisp. Taste is of cacao, milk chocolate, earthy hops and bready malt. Finish is long, semi-dry. Nice, balanced brew with just right amount of chocolate. (294 characters)

Photo of janubio
2.74/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330 ml. bottle. Pours a decent head, that doesn't linger much. Amber colour, with beatiful shades of red and orange to the light. I really can't find chocolate in the aroma, which is alcoholic, like a liquor, with aratificial vanilla and fruits. Medium body, thin palate. Taste is like a medical syrup, with chocolate, and fruits. It doesn't seem to work for me... (364 characters)

Photo of Offa
4.05/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Although I don't like this as much as the regular Old Tom, it is excellent nevertheless, characterful and very drinkable with a nice chocolate element adding nicely to the otherwise old-ale character.

Red, it has a medium-big tan head steadily shrinking to a foamy ring.

Aroma is chocolate/plain cocoa, hints of iron, fruity maltiness (plum wine), and bread crust, hints of earthy wood.

Taste is lightly winy fruitiness up front, then some chocolate, light woody-tea-like bitterness at finish. It is lively, engaging, fruity-and slightly woody ale with a hint of chocolate. (576 characters)

Photo of EPortJake
4.12/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - dark reddish brown with a half finger frothy head. Looks like a slightly darker brown ale
S - heavy malty smells , alcohol a hint of banana and some chocolate (was expecting more chocolate)
T - well it tastes like a strong ale - fruity esters, very malty, biscuit, caramel molasses and some roasted mlalt. There is a chocolate taste on the farewell, but it is not too strong. Hopping is earthy and moderate, and probably the minimum you could get away with at this strength of ale.
M - medium bodied , smooth. Despite the frothy head, the carbonation is actually fairly low
O - a full on ale that is quite moorish - beware quaffing it though as it will have you on your back. A good ale here. (696 characters)

Photo of TMoney2591
3.88/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a Dogfish Head snifter.

Going from Old to Chocolate, 'cause why the hell not? This stuff pours a deep garnet-brown topped by over a finger of dusky tan foam. The nose comprises cocoa, molasses, light clove, light cinnamon, light roasted malts, light oak, and a touch of black tea. Things are a bit more ephemeral than the Old Tom, though thankfully still quite pleasant. The taste brings in more of the same, with the emphasis decidedly on the cocoa, which now takes on a powdery character. There's also a slightly deeper roast, a pinch of black pepper, and a hint of dark fruits way in the background. The body is a lithe medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, a very nice beer, one that shows you can go crazy with chocolate without overdoing it or completely overshadowing every other flavor. (836 characters)

Photo of FLima
4/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It poured very little foam. Very dark woody colour and with a clear chocolate aroma. Flavour was even richer, it tasted chocolate, slight black currants and port wine. Not overly sweet, elegant taste.
The 6% alcohol content was completely hidden. Very interesting beer, and amazingly drinkable once flavours matched perfectly. (326 characters)

Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.85/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 330ml bottle with a BB of Sept 2012. Picked up a long while back from a supermarket. The rear label describes it as a blend of Old Tom ale and quality cocoa, with a hint of Madagascan vanilla.

Poured into a Delirium chalice. A deep reddish-brown hue with good carbonation. Yields a large head of creamy off-white foam that remains for a few minutes before collapsing to a surface layer. Aroma of sweet chocolate notes, underpinned by fruity ale and hints of vanilla. Yeast esters and a whiff of booze lurk in the background. Unusual but nice.

Tastes of fruity strong ale with chocolate overtones. Slightly sweet. Notes of milk chocolate, dried fruit, caramel, vanilla, yeast esters and faint stewed leaves. A warming hint of booze in the background. Dry and mildly solventy, with little bitterness upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is velvety smooth with great body. Lightly tingly, but seems a bit flat. Mildly astringent, with an aftertaste of fruity yeast notes and a hint of chocolate.

Interesting and quite drinkable. The chocolate character is quite distinct; it smells almost like a bar of milk chocolate. It's an odd brew - the chocolate and strong ale flavours don't entirely blend or complement each other, yet it seems to work nonetheless. It's different from every other chocolate beer I've tried; the usual pairing is dark roasted malt and chocolate, which results in a deep bitterness that is absent here. It's not as good as the original Old Tom, but goes down nicely. To summarise: unusual but tasty. Worth trying if you come across it. (1,550 characters)

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Chocolate Tom (Old Tom With Chocolate) from Frederic Robinson Limited
82 out of 100 based on 51 ratings.