Organic Münster Alt - Brauerei Pinkus Mueller
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2.93/5 rDev -19.1%
Ahhh! The last surviving member of the Muenster Alts -- a style nearly killed by the Lager revolution, as well as the Pasteur revolution.
If this is what the style was, then I say good-riddance. It suffers from being 'not enough' in oh so many ways.
It pours a pleasant straw yellow, tainted by a pinch of chill-haze with a bubbly head that quickly collapses.
It smells very faint. This will be the beer's trademark. Faint and not enough.
The taste follows the smell. It is incredibly watery with a strong blast of nutty light munich mingling with a hint of wheat. This would be good if it weren't so dilute -- it is like a Helles mixed with seltzer water. Then there is a nice sour bite, but once again, far too muted to really make an impression, followed by a rather unpleasant soapy taste. If either the malt mix were toned up, or the sourness increased, I think this could be a very good beer. But they aren't, so I'm left with glorified dishwater.
The mouthfeel, as mentioned, is very watery and razor thin. If there were more carbonation, this could be rescued. But there isn't.
Drinkability: Why wouldn't I grab a Helles or a Berliner Weiss instead of this beer? This beer has aspects of both (and they are both styles I love) but it manages to do them very poorly.
Like the Gose, I think this is a style of beer best left to the history books.
01-28-2007 01:41:58 | More by shbobdb
2.93/5 rDev -19.1%
Incredibly cloudy golden colour, with a rocky head of pure white, extremely fine carbonation. Bubbles are obscenely fine, almost like powder as it forms. Body is light and fine. Looks decent.
Nose is bright, but slightly yeasty, with honeyed organic characters, giving a fresh but sweetly underfermented oomph the the aroma. Smells either slightly too sweet or slightly too strong. Either makes me feel uncomfortable.
Taste is crisper and lighter, and it drags it back to the realms of sensibility. There's still certainly a big robust sweetness that gives it an unpleasant malt character, but there's at least a crispness to it that lends it sharp maltiness. Still, there's very little balance, and it's too sweet, but it's at least better than I expected.
Too sweet. To be honest I'm far from a fan, and I don't believe it's a particularly good alt. It's smooth and somewhat drinkable, but depressing in it's expressibility.
10-22-2011 07:41:41 | More by lacqueredmouse
2.9/5 rDev -19.9%
Poured a murky brownish tan, with a few rather scary sediment chunks drifting about. Not nearly enough heft to the malt, the beer leaned in the direction of a thin astrigency. I kept waiting for the flavor in this beer to get up and do something, but it seemed content to languish in mediocrity. No punch of any kind from the hops, and the malt just had no horsepower.
03-28-2004 20:25:55 | More by Brent
2.9/5 rDev -19.9%
Gonna give this one a good score for looks even though it looks nothing like Alts I have had or made. Beautiful clear gold, with a huge hat of white, fine bubbled foam atop.
Flowery perfume, lightly tart yeast, biscuity breadiness, and a hint of citrus for an aroma unlike any Alt I have tasted or read about, but it is a nice, medium strength bouquet.
Tasty beer with more in common with helles lager than Alt, but enjoyable none the less. All the flavors of the nose, with the floral notes less pronounced, the tart and bread more pronounced, and a finish that features a bit of spice to go with the citrus
Very light in mouth, so out of style it is comical. Highly carbed, nice linger, okay finish.
Not really getting the Alt designation on the label, this is more helles than Alt, even if it did use top fermenting yeast. Not recommended.
02-23-2014 18:28:55 | More by cavedave
2.8/5 rDev -22.7%
presented in a pinkus pilsner glass. not surprisingly, looks like a pilsner and has good retention. it's aroma is slightly malty, but not overpowering.
the taste is quite malty and it feels bubbly, almost foamy, in your mouth. i tasted a trace of grape and just a little bitterness in the finish. don't get me wrong, though: this beer is all about the malt.
is this classified as an alt simply because of the brewing and conditioning methods? if you are looking for the typical düsseldorf style, look elsewhere. the beer is interesting enough for a taste, but it wasn't enjoyable enough for me to keep drinking. an interesting brew, nonetheless.
01-25-2004 00:23:49 | More by bigwern
2.79/5 rDev -22.9%
From: Binny's, Schaumburg, IL
Date: None on bottle
Glass: Ayinger willi glass
While I'm not familiar with what differentiates a Munster Alt and a Dusseldorf Alt other than the usage of wheat malt giving the beer a more pale appearance and less-pronounced caramel malt flavors, based upon this sample, I generally think I'd choose the Dusseldorf representation. While my bottle clearly had some age to it, I still found the uncomplicated and light malt flavors to be not entirely satisfying. There's also little to suggest that this would be a world-class beer even when fresh. Without bottled-on dates being available, I wouldn't consider purchasing this again.
Pours a 1.5cm tall head of fairly clean, white bubbles, which are small to medium in size, resulting in a fairly non-compact mass of foam. Retention is around one minute, average for the style, the foam settling to a thin ring around the perimeter of the glass and a large island of thin, residual foam atop the body. Lacing is very modest, a few small dots remain affixed to the inner sides of the glass. The body is pale, dirty tan-brown color, with light bringing out a pale yellow-orange hue; this is the lightest alt I have seen. Carbonation is not visible through the hazy (50% opaque) body.
Aroma is mildly sweet, of light caramel malts with bread yeast, a touch of diacetyl and vegetal like hop usage.
The overall flavor combination is of light caramel malts with very modest hints of toasted nuts and mulch and herb-like hops; fairly one-dimensional and uninteresting. Front of palate notes light caramelized malt sugars with a hint of toasted nuts. The mid-palate notes an increase in caramel malt flavor and sweetness, the modest appearance of bread yeast, slighty mulch-like and herbal hops, and a continued faint hint of toasted nuts. Back of palate primarily features light caramelized malt sugars with pale malt sugars (Pilsner?) as well. Aftertaste reminds one of watered-down Grape Nuts cereal, perhaps indicating some percentage of Munich malt in the grain bill.
Beer is medium-light in body, with carbonation of medium-low intensity, resulting in a light, smooth, and slightly foamy mouthfeel that actually complements the body's weight quite well. Closes semi-dry, with little to no residual stickiness clinging to the mouth.
05-23-2013 16:01:28 | More by falloutsnow
2.75/5 rDev -24%
500 ml bottle. No date. Pours golden with a larg head the rapidly disapates. More kolsch aromas than what I would expect from an alt. Apples and flowers. The kolsch come though in the flavor also. Very crisp apple notes. Tangy. Slightly bitter. Medium body and high carbonation make this beer prickly over the tounge. Flavor leaves quickly. This is not what I expected. Not really an alt that Im familiar with.
08-31-2005 12:44:19 | More by tjthresh
2.7/5 rDev -25.4%
This beer is yellow, with a fizzy white head that leaves some lacing on the glass. Really I though Altbiers are supposed to be darker. This looks like a lager.
This smells like a pilsner to me. Grassy and hoppy. A little bit of soapiness to it.
The taste is tart and a bit acidic. Fruity in spots and grassy in other spots. The finish may have just a bit of ginger to it. Doesn't taste bad, but what lingers isn't all that nice.
There isn't much body, perhaps a bit of an oily feel, and the carbonation is prickly on the lips and tongue. Not for savoring.
Even though there isn't much good about this one, it still goes down alright. Perhaps a fair weather beer, however I won't be after this one again.
04-18-2006 13:03:15 | More by elricorico
2.7/5 rDev -25.4%
oxidized and no head. color was not what i was expecting slightly sweet, nutty and fruity.
Nice medium bodied beer, but the typical alt color was missing this beer is a yellow peach color, not the typical brownish porter color of the dusseldorfer alt which I am accustomed to enjoying.
I may have gotten an old beer. I'll certainly keep my out for it in the future and give it another try. Clearly they are doing something right by the other reviews. I fear I just got a bad bottle of this stuff.
06-06-2011 01:20:42 | More by deanhead
2.68/5 rDev -26%
Pours with a two-fingered white head that fades slowly and leaves some lace. Low carbonation. Slightly cloudy amber color but no chunky bits. Nose is slightly hoppy. Starts with a hoppy dryness and leaves with an aftertaste that has a slight bitterness. To be honest I find it boring. Light bodied. $3.89 for a 500ml bottle.
03-31-2004 23:36:51 | More by jdhilt
2.68/5 rDev -26%
Very light clearish yellow with a good sized big white head. Smell is light malty graininess, almost a spiced essence and a touch metallic. Taste is a mix of a light maltiness and subtle yeastiness. Very similar to a lightly flavored Wit beer. Not bad at all, but then again, nothing spectacular. It is the first organic beer I've tried that didn't taste strange in some way though.
02-22-2008 05:34:50 | More by JDV
2.65/5 rDev -26.8%
500 ML bottle>massive mug
AP: A pale golden color with a mild white hazed effect, very macro-lager-ish with a small, thin all-white head that displays some decent retention and a bit of lacing.
Nose: There's a slightly sweet roasted barley and-wheat smell with a mild yeast and bready effect. some minor herbalized hop scent way down deep.
Taste: A watery and slightly sweet malted wheat taste that is rather thin lager-like. There's a yeastie and bready effect, but is not nearly complex or deep enough to keep my taste buds happy. Much, much thinner and weaker than most good Altbiers that I've had.
MF: This feels very lively and active but thin and forgetable.
DA: Another, not-so-good organic offering. I was really routing for this one to be decent. I expected an Alt and got a thin American Macro Lager. Oh well.
02-09-2007 01:17:34 | More by GratefulBeerGuy
2.63/5 rDev -27.3%
500ml bottle from Gourmet Haus Staudt. Straw colored with some haziness. The head doesn't stick around long on this one, receding in minutes to a thin film. Smells very fruity, but it's hard to place - persimmon maybe? A bit of tartness, citrus zest, light bready malt and a bit of aspirin. Similar on the palate, ambiguously fruity with a touch of lemony tartness and orange peel. Fairly sweet, and lacking the bitter finish I'd expect from an alt (or any finish to speak of, actually - it just falls off the palate). Finishes with an aspirin-like flavor that puts me off. The body is thin and carbonation a bit too low. Pretty mediocre, though it goes down easily enough.
10-15-2010 00:37:07 | More by largadeer
2.63/5 rDev -27.3%
Drank this from a pint poured from the bottle. A gold that's almost transparent. Bubbly and I got a single finger head that sounds clearly then recedes with hardly even a lacing.
Picking up hints of citrus but mostly malts and not a lot else.
The first sip is stinging and it stays that way through out. I'm getting coriander through mild carbonation that provides zero cover. That being said, the flavor lingers with citrus and garlic and it's all front and no back. There is a staining aftertaste that offers little more in terms of flavor. Re-asserts itself, I suppose. Very malty and opens up to serious citrus toward the middle third.
It's a light brew that's doesn't pack much in the way of carbonation. Can't hold it on the tongue for long, honestly.
Sting is admittedly problematic as this is not a necessarily smooth brew. That being said, it can be dealt with quickly and the lack of back helps this area out.
05-18-2009 03:49:22 | More by pants678
2.63/5 rDev -27.3%
Pours easily with an almost three-finger thick, pale, just barely tanned, off-white colored head. The beer is a murky gold color that shows an only lightly hazed, bright, pale gold color when held up to the light. The aroma is noticeable spicy as I pour this, though it seems to be a bit more grassy / hay like with grain notes upon deeper inspection. This is definitely interesting smelling, spicy & grain-like, but somehow in a stale grain sort of way. It almost has a savory herbal note to it, somewhat earthy and definitely reminiscent of funky whole grain notes. I am not sure I really dig the aroma of this beer, but I wouldn't say I dislike it either.
Spicy and a bit peppery from a decent carbonation. The beer is very thin bodied, so much so that it almost seems to develop a tartness. This finishes with a light bitterness and graininess that is both grassy as well as a bit like stale crackers. Other flavors of earthy herbs, perhaps a touch of DMS and some green apple like flavors (especially towards the finish). There is not a whole lot of complexity to this beer and for some reason even the flavors I have mentioned have bee hard to pull out.
Really not a very good beer, it might be a bit past its prime, but many of the flavors don't really seem attributable to oxidation; a bottle date would have been really nice as I just bought this. This really just seems poorly constructed.
Purchased: Plaza Liquors, Tucson AZ
06-25-2008 02:35:38 | More by Gueuzedude
2.6/5 rDev -28.2%
Misty cider (how telling) with a thick broth of white head.
Nose of musty pressed apples and brown stalky hops.
Enter with a tart notion of granny smith apple sauce. And here it lingers for a good long while. Doughier in the midlands, but still with a raw tartness that seems ultimately out of place. Fades with vague notions of herbal hops.
Medium in both body and carbonation.
Maybe I just prefer the Dusseldorf renditions, but this one has little worth to me.
01-05-2005 03:30:36 | More by cokes
2.58/5 rDev -28.7%
Brewed with up to 40% malted wheat in the grist, this Alt is very different than the class ic Dusseldorfer Alt.
Poured from a 16oz brown bottle (no freshness date) at cellar temps. Cloudy light amber (dull pale colour). A tight 3 finger head head formed which left decent laceing on my ale glass. The aroma was mainly tart with a background maltiness. The large proportion of malted wheat gives this alt a very tart taste profile. Some sweetness from the malts can be detected in the middle, and the finish was a bit sour and dry. The body was thin. Very little hop character.
This Alt is more akin to a poorly brewed American Wheat or Berliner Weiss. It displays none of the characteristics of a classic Alt. For lovers of classic Alts, please avoid
03-29-2008 15:25:49 | More by jpkoch1962
2.55/5 rDev -29.6%
Organic Munster Alt
Appearance- piss yellow with no head at all.
Smell- yeasty, pilsner. Sweet.
Taste- sweet and yeasty. Flat.
Mouthfeel- watery and disappointing. Went down smooth though!?
Overall- what is this?! Too watery, too cheap tasting. Maybe I have a bad bottle but this was a total waste.
04-25-2005 20:26:51 | More by NJpadreFan
2.55/5 rDev -29.6%
Hazy straw golden. A little beige head provides minimal lace. The aroma is quite bready. And yeasty. And mildly fruity. This beer seems slippery on the tongue. Quite slick and not too enjoyable. There's a trace tart quality that really isn't appropriate. Lemony as well. Some bready malts and german hops noted as well. Probably my least favorite alt to date.
01-20-2004 04:26:51 | More by Bighuge
2.53/5 rDev -30.1%
Half liter brown bottle, no bottling date.
Burnished straw gold in color, with a small white cap that quickly reduces to a thin halo.
Has aromas of lemons, & herbs.
Wheat, a sour tingle, some pepper, solvent, & floral hops.
Medium bodied, slightly crisp.
Not really what I'm after in an altbier. Not a lot going on, and what was going on didn't interest me.
08-25-2003 16:57:47 | More by xgrigorix
2.5/5 rDev -30.9%
Poured from bottle into pilsner glass. Liquid is a hazy yellow with a small white fizzy cap that quickly settles. Smell is incredibly bready, lots of raw dough and crust. Some yeast and malted wheat in the smell as well. Taste seems off - it is equally tart and sour as it is malty. I cant remember having an altbier that was this tart, not to mention this lacking in hop flavor. Mouthfeel is light body with a medium high carbonation. Drinkability is not too good because of the off flavors... Overall this beer's flavors are a bit harsh and unbalanced. Pinkus, meet drain.
12-14-2010 03:20:55 | More by nkersten
2.5/5 rDev -30.9%
Cloudy, straw color. Decent head (pure white), a little lace on the glass.
Grainy, thin smelling--rather similar to N/A beers.
Thin bodied and surprisingly similar to a pilsner. Very high carbonation. A touch of citrus. Very low hop level--could this be the German version of Bud?
This is not what I expected. I'm used to something closer to a British Mild. This is a weak expression of an Alt.
09-17-2006 22:32:58 | More by smcolw
Organic Münster Alt from Brauerei Pinkus Mueller
82 out of 100 based on 337 ratings.