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Keene Idea | Alpine Beer Company

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Brewed by:
Alpine Beer Company
California, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.88%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly known as Toronado 25th.

Keene Idea is very different from Nelson. No rye, different grain bill, Citra and Rakau hops.

Added by HopHead84 on 08-11-2012

BEER STATS
Reviews:
62
Ratings:
439
Avg:
4.55
pDev:
8.57%
 
 
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Photo of fireazzi
4.75/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

This beer is awesome, wish they would bottle it so I could have it all the time. Loved this beer and going to Alpine is a great brewery to visit. The nicest guys ever there. Looking forward to this being released again

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Photo of drew42e
4.64/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Stone fruit and juiciness on the nose give way to grapefruit citrus flavor and some dank , with slight bitterness. One of best DIPAs I've had and Alpine's best IMO

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Photo of Hop_God
4.31/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Had on Tap at Hopocalyse Day 1/23/16

A: Golden to almost orange hue. good creamy white bubbles

S: some resin, hops, citrus, some slight guava.

T: bitter lemon peel, some faint tropical fruit, citrus zest. pine.some grapefruit on the end

F: smooth and crsip

O: a pretty amazing IPA

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Photo of Hootie159
4.59/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

From growler. Pours a slightly hazy copper orange. Multi finger foam head with reasonable retention. Solid lacing. Smells of good, clean, hop fun. Bitter and earthy smell. A nice, more simple, great tasting beer. Bitter pine that makes way to a hint of fresh grapefruit. Smooth feel with strong carbonation and an assertive hop stick. Best ipa I've tried from these guys, thus far.

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Photo of costanzo_mike
4.58/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Pours a burnt orange color with a thick white head that dissipates some throughout drinking. Solid lacing on the glass. Nice tropical smell on the nose with some of the nelson character as well. Taste reflects that soft citrus flavor with nice bitterness shining through. Great, smooth mouthfeel that you look for with the upper echelon IPA class. Best IPA offering from these guys in my opinion

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Photo of AbiWeise
4.98/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Just had the Keene Idea for the first time today.. Went to get Nelsons.. Now I want Keene Idea.. The same Nelson Hops used here. Little more Boozy than the Nelson but still so so drinkable and absolutely my new best from Alpine !

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Photo of MHurley
4.43/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 64oz growler into tulp crystal clear orange in color with white head that vanished quickly. (I believe because i didnt get to open it soon enough) smells of tropical fruit, pineapple and citrus. Ice lacing and great tasting beer at a 8.8%. Piney and hoppy! Would like to get some bottle to beable to get the full flavor. Im a Nelson guy myself but another great IPA from Alpine

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Photo of Stevedore
4.49/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

32oz ABC growler, served in a snifter glass 9/30/2015.

Pours a lighter orange-copper body, clear with a remarkable amount of clarity; two finger white head with fair retention (given the growler serving) and very nice lacing. Looks like a West Coaster through and through. Smells of tropical fruit, dank durian fruit, pineapple, rich caramel malt, slight herbal character, a mild amount of spices to it. Deliciously balanced nose. Flavour is similarly excellent; rich tropical fruit, a bit of ripe pineapple and durian fruit, slightly funky and spicy, backed up by a rich caramel malt that is bold but not to the point of cloying or barleywine levels. Makes for a very balanced, complex and rich double IPA. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, substantial, slightly slick and sticky but incredibly drinkable. Very mild heat to it. Overall, a very rich double IPA with a lot of interesting spicy and tropical fruit character to it. This is awesome.

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Photo of Franziskaner
4.15/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Deep copper color with a fingernail of off white around the rim. The aroma is piney and honey sweet. I taste a massive amount of piney hops. The mouth is thick, chewy, and overall dense.

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Photo of worldsworstextra
4.68/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Very nice aroma and blend of hops, remarkably smooth for a 9%. The higher alcohol content is not very noticeable, but can be noticeable if you let it warm up, so definitely drink it chilled. This is probably my favorite IPA by Alpine with bad boy a close second.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
4.2/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

64 oz. growler poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Clear golden body. Nice white head. Some lacing and decent retention.

Smell - Strong Nelson hops. Orange and a hint of herbal character. Sweet pale malts.

Taste - Grapefruit, orange, a little tropical. That standard Nelson flavor. Pretty sweet. Mild bitterness, if any.

Mouthfeel - Medium carbonation. Maybe medium low. Medium heavy body.

Overall - I'd probably take regular Nelson over this, but it's really good.

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Photo of lupercmda
4.72/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Pours and orange hazy color with moderate head retention. Smells very citrusy with some mango notes. Tastes a lot of grapefruit with this beer with a moderate bitter finish. Moderate mouth feel with perfect carbonation for this beer. Another excellent Alpine offering.

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Photo of mrn1ceguy
4.6/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Not quite as good as Bad Boy, but different and special in its own way. Another example of the great SoCal IPAs that have a lot of hops but still make them drinkable and enjoyable.

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Photo of DckBrns
4.91/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

The one and only time I've made the pilgrimage to Alpine Beer, this was on tap. I had no idea what it was and in hindsight I consider myself a lucky man for being able to drink a pint of this my first time there. I will absolutely be on the lookout for when they tap it again. Absolutely incredible IPA.

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Photo of Briesch
4.8/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

This is like Nelson on crack. So delicious. Barely noticeable ABV. One Alpine beer you know you're getting from their production and not Green Flash. Must try. Another winner from Alpine.

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Photo of breadwinner
4.65/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Like liquid hop candy, yet with a basic enough malt base to never veer off into syrupy sweet territory. Arguably the best beer Alpine puts out, and that's saying something.

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Photo of Keananmichael5
4.81/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

So freaking good! Not as good as Bad Boy but the dry hop on this beer is so amazing. Has that cloudy ipa look that I love and it so smooth and drinkable. I wish I could have a tap of this straight from Alpine in my house.

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Photo of DoubleJ
4.6/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Alpine's litmus test to me involved having Keene Idea (originally Toronado's 25th Anniversary beer) on a beer list already with outstanding beers. I prefer not to use tasters because I like to soak up a greater experience with a given beer, so after a round a Nelson, Keene Idea had a high mark to hit. On to the beer:

This beer is light orange colored and topped with a short head with solid retention on top. I took a smell of the beer, and at that moment I was assured by the USDA that I had consumed my daily requirement of fruit, as this beer is big on fruit! A smash to the head with passionfruit, followed closely by succulent guava, cantaloupe and mango.

There's no way that a stablemate of Nelson can be better tasting, could it? At times, I thought that Keene Idea had climbed Mount Everest to be with Nelson. While overall it doesn't quite hit that stratospheric peak, Keene Idea is undoubtedly outstanding beer. The beer is not bitter, yet full of hoppiness and more. The tastes of orange, passionfruit, and guava are unashamedly fantastic, and that alcohol level does not cross the palate immediately, further making my pint dangerously drinkable. It's full bodied and very smooth, and already being such a great beer, felt that this beer was not playing fair.

Keene Idea is a beer that I'm sure made Dave Keene smile from ear to ear. This is a fantastic beer!!

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Photo of BucannonXC5
4.59/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Type: Draft
Glass: Pint glass
From: Alpine Beer Company in Alpine, Calif.
Price: $6.00
Purchased: Oct. 12, 2014
Consumed: Oct. 12, 2014
Misc.: N/A

Poured a honey, caramel, hazy color with one finger of off white head when I got it. Good foamy spiderweb lacing along the sides of the glass. Average retention on the top all the way down. NOTE: Mine was a bit flat and I used the guy’s glass next to me. I went with somewhere in between the ratings. (Sight - 3.75)

Smelled sharp grapefruit juice, Citra hops, floral hops, orange, tangerine rind, nectarine, caramel, honey and light spicy Simcoe hops. (Smell - 4.75)

Taste was similar to the nose. Got sharp grapefruit juice, Citra hops, floral hops, tangerine, nectarine, caramel, tangerine rind, more bitter than the nose, very smooth and sweet sugary notes. (Taste - 4.50)

Medium-to-long body. Oily-to-thin texture. Average carbonation. Long, sharp, fruity finish. About as close to perfect as can be. (Feel - 4.75)

Maybe as good as advertised, tough to tell. Wow, best Alpine beer I’ve ever had? (Overall - 4.75)

4.59 | 100 | A+

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Photo of More_betterness
4.49/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Alpine:

A: Hazy light orange with a small bright white head that recedes to a small ring around the glass. Small specks of lacing persist on the glass.

S: Big notes of orange zest, mango, and pineapple upfront. A hint of sweet malt and some grassy and floral hops.

T: Sweet orange and resinous pine upfront, followed by a gentle bitterness and crackery malt. Drying finish.

M: Light/medium bodied and moderate carbonation.

O: As usual, world class ipa from Alpine. Is anybody surprised at this point?

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Photo of SDRedDevil
5/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

On draft at the Alpine Pub. Pours a hazy straw color, the flavor is pure Nelson on steroids, with that classic dry/white grape finish. My favorite beer from Alpine so that's saying something :)

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.29/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the 2014 Firestone Walker Invitational Beer Fest held at the Paso Robles Event Center in Paso Robles, CA.

Pours a hazy orange with a foamy beige head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, citrus zest, and herbal hop aromas. Taste is much the same with citrus zest and herbal hop flavors on the finish. There is a medium amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good beer with great aromas and really tasty flavors.

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Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.54/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Growler popped on 3.13.14

A - Pours a clear, medium orange with a small tan head that fades slowly.

S - Pine, orange, pineapple.

T - Lots of citrus, orange, grapefruit, pineapple, some bitter pine as well.

D - Good carbonation with a medium body.

O - Citrus heavy - a touch of bitterness. Very nice.

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Photo of jegross2
4.7/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Reviewing the infamous Keene Idea from Alpine Beer Company out of Alpine, California. According to Alpine, this beer is not "Double Nelson." Rather, it is an entirely separate beast with a different grain bill (no rye) and Citra and Rakau hops. Regardless of what it is, it is delicious.

Score: 97

64 oz growler filled in early March and consumed 03/13/14. Served in a Peg's Barrel Aged Day snifter. Thank you Paul for the hook up.

Appearance: Pours a clean, somewhat translucent golden-orange color with a half finger of off-white head that quickly settles to a ring around the glass. Average lacing, but very good retention. 4.5/5

Smell: Huge, resinous and tropical fruit hops! Apricots, grapefruit, orange rinds, lime, sharp pine and wood. The nose is aggressively forest-esque with the hop character, with lots of tropical notes. I absolutely dig this aroma! 5/5

Taste: More juiciness and less dryness than anticipated given the nose. Has a little acidity and a touch of herbaceousness that was not in the nose. Juicy grapefruit, tangerine, and orange rinds. Mmm mmm! Has a bold and bitter midpalate bite, that lingers long. Finishes with a bitter, slightly wood-like pine flavor. Has a nice and subtle malt backbone, with complementary notes of caramel and a touch of earthiness and onion. 4.5/5

Mouthfeel: Not quite medium bodied, very low carbonation. Quite juicy and oily mouthfeel, with only a little dryness to the finish. Lingeringly bitter. 4.75/5

Overall: Blindly sampled this along side several other IPA/APA such as Notorious and Permanent Funeral, and this was my clear favorite. I love how aggressive the flavor profile on this one is; haters of IPA beware!

Cost: $20 for a 64 oz growler.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.3/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to nugganooch for sending me a growler of this out; thanks Dane! Drank about 30 oz's of the growler, poured into a tulip.

a - Pours a somewhat clear amber-orange color with one inch of white head and moderate carbonation evident. Looks very nice.

s - Smells of citrus hops, pine hops, fruity malts, tropical fruits, pineapples, mango, bread, and light grapefruit. Nose is great, super hoppy and fruity, smells very fresh.

t - Tastes of citrus hops, grapefruit, light pine hops and resin, tropical fruits, pine apples, floral hops, earthy notes, yeast, bread, graham crackers, and lemon. More grapefruit in the taste.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. No bitterness and easy to drink.

o - Overall I have a little bit of mixed feeling on this one, but ultimately liked it quite a bit. At first I thought something seemed a little off in the taste from the growler...I had just drank Hill Farmstead's Citra pale ale, which I liked a lot and was very different, so that might be why. The more I drank it the more I liked it though, and we ended up finishing the growler off and liking it a lot...not sure if it grew on me because of my palate or what. Smells great the whole time and was easy to drink. I drank a very fresh bottle of Duet 2 days prior and think I liked Duet better, but this was still very good. Personally I find I like whatever Alpiine beer I can get freshest the most. Worth getting for sure and another hoppy winner for Alpine.

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Keene Idea from Alpine Beer Company
98 out of 100 based on 62 ratings.